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April 22nd, 2012 at 6:48 pm by David FarrarThe headline in the Sunday Star-Times, at Stuff is “Mr Unpopular?” above a photo of John Key, and a story by Anthony Hubbard proclaiming “People are getting angry, John”.
Rather ironic timing then that tonight’s 3 News Reid Research poll (blogged at Curiablog) has National increasing its support since February by 2.3%, to reach 49.8%.
Personally I think this shows what a small bubble some (not all) of the media live in. Just because their Grey Lynn friends are all up in arms over something, doesn’t mean most of New Zealand is.
As for the Labour wet dream headline of “Mr Unpopular” I should point out that the big movement in the poll was a 9% increase in those saying David Shearer is performing poorly. Those saying Key was performing poorly increased by just 2%.
I really do wonder sometimes whether or not the Sunday Star-Times should just be renamed “The Standard”.
April 22nd, 2012 at 6:57 pm
The tide is turning! The Left have got it all correct! Trev, Grant, Russel, Metiria and Winnie know they are focusing on what matters.
(Please don’t let them start thinking differently.)
Vote:April 22nd, 2012 at 6:58 pm
Another poll that bomber disbelieves. Following his tweets is as funny as following The Onion.
Vote:April 22nd, 2012 at 7:15 pm
I see no ships.
Vote:April 22nd, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Its been a while since I bought the SST, but I did today. The Editorial was, surprisingly, strongly in favour of the Casino/Conference centre proposal, and said that Key was providing leadership. Not online that I can find.
Vote:April 22nd, 2012 at 7:38 pm
The last time I read a SST was sitting on a long drop in Nelson Lakes National park. Symbolically someone left it there as dunny paper.
Vote:April 22nd, 2012 at 7:46 pm
I haven’t bought an SST for some time either.
Vote:I do wonder if they have Labour activists wring the stories.
Last week, i recall in a news story it called the SOE legislation ‘vilified.’
I thought that was abit strong.
Maybe the PM got off lucky by being branded unpopular.
April 22nd, 2012 at 8:02 pm
The Hubbard piece is one of series by him that are best described as trash.
Hubbard is trash.
His political nouse is trash.
The SST is trash.
Moreover Hubbard exhibits a death wish for himself in terms political nouse, and the SST as a responsible and reputable news outlet.
Can we please have some responsible and perceptive commentating, Messrs Fairfax?
Evey week that passes suggests you and the SST are on a one-way self destruction mission.
Time for serious change at the SST.
Vote:April 22nd, 2012 at 8:15 pm
A story? It’s in the Opinion section! Clearly marked as such. Very much like your pieces in the Herald. Should we therefore start calling the Herald Kiwiblog?
You guys are starting to sound like the lefties who complain about the SST everytime they read something by Laws.
Vote:April 22nd, 2012 at 8:20 pm
Anthony Hubbard a true Lefty. Just another one that infests the MSN.
Vote:http://www.chomsky.info/onchomsky/19981025.htm
April 22nd, 2012 at 8:27 pm
SST are idiots, I cancelled my subscription when the y veered sharply left. Herald are going the same way and they all bitch they arnt making any money, well here is a thought how about catering to your audience rather than your social set. The media all follow the same lines which at present is anti Key, no wonder Whaleoil,s readership is through the roof as its the only way you can actually find the real story with some decent background and he is one guy.
Vote:April 22nd, 2012 at 8:30 pm
I like it when you go walk in NZ Farrar,
Vote:tough dude Farrar, fun to see you walk arou
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April 22nd, 2012 at 8:42 pm
I think it was written with a false sense of the mood in the electorate and a lack of appreciation of how events were unfolding, it seems that there was some difficulty in simply rejecting the piece rather than printing it – particularly when it looked like an ‘old’ and somewhat irrelevant contribution. ‘Mr Unpopular’ went out as both a headline and a centre point from the time JK turned backed criticism in one on one TV interviews late this week.
Vote:April 22nd, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Key is far from perfect, I would prefer that he dropped the socialist rubbish and really got stuck into welfare and freeing up the economy.
However, can you really imagine anybody else leading the nation?
Seriously, have a gander around the debating chamber (on both sides), can you really name one other MP (with the possible exception of Collins) who you think is qualified or able to lead this nation?
It is bloody scary, we can only hope that Key decides to stick it out for a few more years yet, or at least until another person emerges who has some of his ability and reason.
Vote:April 22nd, 2012 at 8:58 pm
What gets me with this Crafar Farms business is that no-one has remarked how Uncle Helen tied John Boy’s hands.
It’s as if it’s all National’s fault.
But who signed the Free Trade Agreement with China?
But Uncle Helen and Labour!!
And all National is doing is abiding by the rules Helen Clark and Labour signed us up for!!!
Vote:April 22nd, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Hubbard detests John Key/natiional party and it is a rare day where his column does not feature an attack on him/them. In fact it is an exception that he ever has an opinion piece on any other political party – I assume they are so perfect that crirticism is unwarranted.
Frankly he is a disgrace and how the SST can continue with him is unbelievable. Politically the editorial content is now very far left and completley biased and they should declare their hand and state this and stop pretending they are a neutral and objective paper,
Vote:April 22nd, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Can anyone suggest a good Sunday read – the offerings in NZ are pretty dismal. Online would do.
Vote:April 22nd, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Ah the Sunday Socialist Times…. It’s always been a red flag waving rag – I gave up on it years ago.
Vote:April 22nd, 2012 at 9:17 pm
trout @ 8:59
You could try the Bible. There are some rollicking stories in the Old Testament. Not to mention some useful guidelines in the New.
Vote:April 22nd, 2012 at 9:21 pm
I’m another who cancelled their subscription when the SST became a weekly rant for anything left.
It became nauseating – to such a degree that we just pulled stumps and cancelled.
Thank G*d for the internet.
Vote:April 22nd, 2012 at 10:26 pm
@eszett – It’s marked as an opinion piece, but not clearly. If you started at the headline and read down (as most people do) you wouldn’t know. And it was sitting as main headline on Stuff (without any tag indicating it as opinion) for most of Sunday.
Vote:April 22nd, 2012 at 10:33 pm
I too cancelled my subscription when it all got too much – Hubbard, Oram, Kemeys as Editor. What unadulterated trash I put up with for far too long. Finlay MacDonald brought tears to my eyes when he wrote for them. Then there was Lhaws…..no thank you.
Vote:April 22nd, 2012 at 10:58 pm
This leftie is forever asking his leftie mates to explain exactly what it is about John Key that they don’t like, and what gave rise to all this irrational John Key hate.
You can’t just hate him for not being Labour and winning the election, so what’s he actually done wrong?
Almost inevitably their answers involve something like I just don’t trust him or you can TELL he’s up to something…
Odd; he just seems like a good, straight, sensible business guy to me.
(IMHO he has done all any leftie could wish for in a National PM, in managing the books better whilst NOT tearing up all the social gains Labour has made in the previous decade.)
Vote:April 22nd, 2012 at 11:45 pm
It’s on the opinion pages.
And it starts with big red letters say: OPINION.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/6787292/People-are-getting-angry-John
Regardless of what you think about the content, it’s just plain silly to say the SST is now “socialist” or should be called “the standard.”
Papers tend to publish opinion pages from views and different what’s wrong with that?
While I strongly disagree with nearly everything Laws says, I wouldn’t stop buying SST just because of that.
And just as lefties get their knickers in a twist by what Laws writes, all of a sudden DPF is getting his in a twist because someone dared to write a not so positive opinion piece on John Key.
Vote:April 23rd, 2012 at 12:28 am
Slowly Sinking Tabloid
“I really do wonder sometimes whether or not the Sunday Star-Times should just be renamed “The Standard””.
Best DPF comment here for months
Vote:April 23rd, 2012 at 12:51 am
At least The Stranded is upfront about which side of the political spectrum it’s on.
SST hasn’t been worth reading for years
Vote:April 23rd, 2012 at 5:59 am
By social gains you mean unaffordable bribes that are sending us, not so slowly, down the shitter.
Vote:April 23rd, 2012 at 6:29 am
a) Helen Clark was “most popular Prime Minister Ever”.
b) If you were to poll on issues and compare with Nationals policies it probably wouldn’t equal Nationals support.
c) Labours brand is (could be) all the dregs (Chris Carter, anti-smacking..?) and no live shells.
Vote:April 23rd, 2012 at 6:59 am
So what does this make Shearer, with labour on 29%? Mr Despised?
Vote:April 23rd, 2012 at 7:02 am
Conservative Party holding the balance of power.
Vote:April 23rd, 2012 at 7:10 am
@Redbaiter How? They don’t hold a seat. They don’t even look like they will come close to winning a seat. Their vote is excluded. Farrar’s projected results on his link shows:
Projected Seats
National 62
Labour 37
Green 18
ACT 1
Maori 3
United Future 1
Mana 1
NZ First 0
Total 123
No Conservative balance of power, no evidence to show that the conservatives might win a seat, and even if they did, at 1.1% they wouldn’t get anymore seats unless Winston fell out of parliament and there was a lot of redistributed wasted vote.
Vote:April 23rd, 2012 at 7:33 am
So what does this make Shearer, with labour on 29%? Mr Despised?
I don’t think so, I think many people see him as a nice enough bloke (similar to Key) but don’t see him with any political clout or nous (unlike Key). Shearer doesn’t even seem to have managed to take control of his own party let alone compete with National and Greens.
So, Shearer’s a decent bloke, but, whatever.
Vote:April 23rd, 2012 at 7:38 am
As DPF has pointed out previously, it has not been the best of starts for National this year and the opposition would have felt that they are gaining traction.
The last 2 polls would have pulled the rug out from under their feet. The PM was on the news saying that he is fully aware that some poeple might not like some of what they do, but the overall direction is something that they agree with. These poll results will give the Nats more impetus to stay the course.
Vote:April 23rd, 2012 at 7:48 am
Pongo: “How about catering to your audience rather than your social set” ….Excellent Sir…
One commenter asked for suggestions on a good Sunday read…the sad answer is there is none..the only think the HoS has over the SST is that it’s at least one single bound document rather than the bits and pieces all arranged differently that is now the SST “format”
Both of them are a waste of time and money …
Vote:April 23rd, 2012 at 7:54 am
It is very amusing to see an emotional ouburst to be shown up by boring facts.
Vote:April 23rd, 2012 at 8:01 am
For a very long time now, no matter what else has been happening politically, the cartoon in The Nelson Mail has been consistently anti-National. Most have been unnecessarily vicious.
Vote:April 23rd, 2012 at 8:03 am
This Hubbard person should have his affiliations declared. But there is no harm in his scribble so long as the paper also prints an alternative view. David through this blog is contributing significantly to centre-right opinion and it does help balance out things. Righties are far more interesting people hence the popularity of this blog and whaleoil.
Vote:April 23rd, 2012 at 8:04 am
Nice result for the Conservatives, more than Act and United combined. Almost worth having a cup of tea.
Vote:April 23rd, 2012 at 9:06 am
Grey Lynn!? Nothing to do with Grey Lynn. It’s all coming out of Wellington.
Vote:April 23rd, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Mmmmm, interesting….I wouldn’t call treading water “performing”. The Labour alternative, spending even more scarce money as toilet paper. Soooo…”performing” is the current default position and the alternative is unthinkable….gotcha.
I guess the long cruise to the 3rd world is preferable to the short route as advocated by the left.
Vote:April 23rd, 2012 at 2:51 pm
The Greens are becoming the real opposition.
Immigration discussion is out of bounds (the left and right agree on that).
Vote:April 24th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Hellooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Rod Oram on Crafar cock up
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon
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