So the lesson is that rich guys can take nasty revenge and get a huge amount of support from those who enjoy seeing someone being destroyed – like those on the Left. What is it about Labour that they are so vicious?
I agree with RRM, Dotcom probably thought he was buying beneficial treatment from Banks but was unhappy when it wasn’t provided. Banks actually got in trouble here because his ethics are too high and he wouldn’t scratch Dotcom’s back. His terrible handling of the issue since is his own fault though.
346 views at 9.47 am – see how it goes
The audio may be clever if you’re into that sort of thing, or jut the whole idea, but would some decent visuals have cut that deeply onto $60,000 a month living allowance?
Kim Dotcom is a breath of (onion ring-flavoured) fresh air, a sharp intake of smelling salts that might start to wake us up from our dour, trout-faced, tall poppy, politically-correct passionlessness. I’m ashamed that we didn’t call bullshit as a nation on NZ’s fawning US-instigated bullying of him for being a German sucking profit out of Hollywood.
Even more interesting than how this Suche nach Vergnügen (bon vivant) changes us, is how we change him. I’m sure Ponsonby Pies is the thin end of the wedge.
Archer: Do you know in just what way Banks wouldn’t “scratch Dotcom’s back” ?? The information I have suggests Dotcom was asking for the kind of assistance any “constituent” of Banks’ currently resident in Mt Eden prison had a right to ask of his MP…do you know any different?
Quite agree that the reaction since has been entirely his own making…”when in a hole stop digging…” and all that..
I love how some right wing politicians get so uptight over the State paying welfare to beneficiaries, all the while those same politicians have their hands out asking for shit loads of money from whoever. And they do this without a hint of shame.
David Garrett: First of let me say I think it is great you actively comment here and elsewhere.
My phrase about “scratch Dotcom’s back” is on the presumption that if the whole donation issue came out via Mike Williams (when Williams visited Dotcom when he was in remand in prison) then Dotcome must have been dissatisfied or unhappy with Banks. Reading between the lines he may have thought or hoped that Banks would have helped him in some way in his predicament, and he was unhappy that Banks had acted properly and not interfered in the court proceedings.
I should be clear I was only agreeing with RRM first point, in that it appears Dotcom was unable to “buy” Banks, obviously because Banks has ethics.
Archer: thanks for your kind words. The information I have – from a reliable source – is that for some reason the authorities were not providing Mr D with adequate pain relief for his back pain. Mr Dotcom asked who the MP was for the area, found it was Banks, and asked him for help with that issue, i.e. the pain relief not being provided. Banks didn’t want to know him.
IF that was all Dotcom asked, and IF Banks reacted that way, then Mr Dotcom’s retaliation is entirely understandable. The MP for Epsom gets letters from prisoners in Mt Eden all the time asking for help. Obviously in most cases, the MP cannot – and indeed should not – do anything to assist the prisoner with appeals and the like. This may not have been one of those cases.
‘I should be clear I was only agreeing with RRM first point, in that it appears Dotcom was unable to “buy” Banks, obviously because Banks has ethics.’
No, he’s got convenient amnesia and that isn’t ethical. If he was acting ethically he would have been forthright at the beginning, when he still is not – even now. But please explain what ethics you attribute to him over this matter.
The level of Banks forgetfulness does beg the question, is he fit to undertake his ministerial duties. Can he recall what he is there for or do his legal advisers tell him to forget, therefore it didn’t happen?
Of course there ARE those allegations that he’s a big-time fraudster…
Subject to those proving unfounded, I totally agree. It’s great to have a local celebrity around who is his own man and provides a bit of a show.
He is a welcome change to the lame antics of retired professional rugby oafs and all the bland, vanilla-flavoured c-list socialites and whores who hang around them, their beige-on-beige little “scandals” being about all our gossip columnists have got to work with.
Perhaps if we had a few more leading citizens like Dotcom who seem to like making a splash, and in doing so enrich the public life here, then maybe the rest of us could come to love having the rich pricks around, instead of hating on them all the time?
“That politician got amnesia again”. Not only catchy, but very common.
On the balance of probability I will go with Dotcoms recollection on this one.
One would wonder why no attempt has ever been made to close the so called loopholes in the appropriate legislation.
My understanding of pain in NZ prisons is , it is ”panadol or put up with it” that is , if you mange to get any guards attention. If Dotcom expected more than a couple of panadol , he obviously didn’t know much about NZ prisons. Prisoners who are sent to hospital for surgery and are given stronger relief afterwards whilst in Hospital such as morphine , codeine etc , certainly won’t get these drugs once they are back in prison. It will be back to the panadol mantra.
Joanna: Thank you for that then the information I have is entirely plausible…and for the record, NO, I dont agree that that is OK, especially for remand prisoners…if you are on C Block for murder, maybe a different story…
That, to me, doesn’t sound consistent with the Bill of Rights, especially considering that many prisoners are presumed innocent. If a prisoner has a diagnosed condition requiring pain relief then they should be given access to the necessary medication. To do otherwise I see as no different to waterboarding or other forms of torture which are clearly unacceptable. Perhaps a sore back isn’t comparable to waterboarding but there can be conditions which require stronger pain relief and who knows maybe his back was really really sore. He’s clearly a giant of a man so its not inconceivable.
Care should be taken with the diagnoses of course, recognizing the incentive to claim pain when none exists, and the medication should be controlled by prison officers, but the bottom line is prisoners should have access to medication that would otherwise be prescribed to anyone else.
I love it! I guess that’s John, down the ‘John’. The more I see and hear of Dotcom, the more I like the man. He has the stuff kiwi men used to be made of, before marshmellows got to them. (Yeah, that’s sexist – suck it up)
Jinny is right you have to wonder what has happened to the male kiwi, we seem to have forgotten how to have fun. Dear Mom, no mun, no fun, love Son
Along comes Kim a guy who knows how to have, fun despite all the pressure he must be under, with the most powerful nation in the world gunning for him.
Expect our Government to do everything in its power to assist the US, disregard the law of the land, trample over basic rights, and change the Laws if required. Anything required, to suck up to the US.
RRM: Behind every great fortune there is a crime, right? The great thing about New Zealand is that it’s possible to have a great life without earning a huge amount of money, and we seem to always assume that the poor must want to be rich.
I live on the East Coast, work from home, do a bit of fishing, a bit of surfing and see a whole lot of my daughter and my garden. I love life and have far less debt stress and expense than when I was a young corporate go-getter, and my wife and I can inject luxuries into our lives without becoming enslaved to them.
That’s my choice for now, so far from resenting “rich pricks”, I think: “Good on them!”, especially if they make money from creating something rather than being a usurer.
Most of the Kiwi resentment of rich people seems to come via the unionist left who generally seem driven by lazy envy that ferments into resentful hate.
What a terrible way to live; no wonder they look so haggard and cross.
Dot Com has got a lot of friends all of a sudden. I had some sympathy for him when he was charged but now he seems like a vindictive self absorbed individual with a nasty streak Also didn’t he lie about the hotel discount to Banks, as this blog showed Banks paid no more less than anyone else pays if they use those websites.
I wonder why the media shut up on that particular beat up so quickly. With each story about Banks it is becoming obvious the media have an agenda. The NZ Herald has even taken on the role of publicist for the Conservative Party.