Someone else is the winner
August 10th, 2012 at 7:00 am by David Farrar
Stuff ran a poll on who would be the best leader for Labour. Hilariously, “Someone else” beat the six listed candidates. Not at all scientific, but interesting that Cunliffe is at twice Shearer.
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August 10th, 2012 at 7:54 am
This is good for Phil Goff.
Vote:August 10th, 2012 at 8:01 am
Somewhere off in the distance, a snaggle-toothed baritone ghoul cackled
Vote:August 10th, 2012 at 8:05 am
lol J Mex
Vote:August 10th, 2012 at 8:06 am
David Cunliffe’s time has come.
Vote:August 10th, 2012 at 8:57 am
I am concerned about this “Someone Else”. Is it the same Someone Else who designed, project managed and built the CTV building? He/she must not be allowed near Parliament.
Vote:August 10th, 2012 at 9:11 am
At least it’s not “Anyone Else”.
Vote:August 10th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Someone Else has been busy; he/she already has a social media campaign going on:
https://twitter.com/SomeoneElse4Lab
Vote:August 10th, 2012 at 9:21 am
Also noticeable with this poll is the relatively low total number of total votes, even S Else isn’t all that popular.
Vote:August 10th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Why should we support Shearer when his own caucus doesn’t? What do they know they are not telling us?
Vote:August 10th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Someone else must be the only one touted by a perceptive Political Correspondent ,namely Labour’s Little Pony..wow 37%.
Vote:August 10th, 2012 at 9:56 am
I dunno, but I have a suspicion that they play for the Blackcaps as “Extras”…
Vote:August 10th, 2012 at 10:04 am
How about John Key?
Seriously, Labour need to bring in charismatic, energetic, hard working, intelligent, yet pragmatic, New Zealand leaders from industry (and I don’t mean the UN, unions, or student politics). These party apparatchiks and self-serving cretins are not inspiring anyone.
Labour need to step up and take on responsibility for the failures in Education, particularly among our fastest growing population, Maori and Pacific Island New Zealanders, and work out with their Education Unions what really needs to be done there if not charter schools (or even have the teachers union set up their own charter school to show how it should be done!), welfarism (a corruption of Labour’s original ideals in setting up the Welfare State), and the exploding social security burden of the retiring baby boomers. Rather than opposing everything National puts out as policy, agree where the problems lie and propose their alternative solutions, assuming they have better alternatives. I’m not seeing that, except with raising the retirement age.
Labour needs to be about problem solving, not wingeing, not being smug and snide, and internal bickering. Project an alternative brighter future. Be open and honest about the risks we face, and how they will be headed off/ mitigated with better policies. Leave the hard left ideological trash-talk to the far left parties and go for middle New Zealand.
Vote:August 10th, 2012 at 10:25 am
JS
Vote:Maybe. More likely they bat in the middle order. They come and go so quick that everytime I look at the screen Someone Else is in.
August 10th, 2012 at 10:29 am
I’ve been laughed out of the room for saying this, but I still think John Tamihere is the right man for Labour to make a fresh start
Vote:August 10th, 2012 at 10:33 am
In an orderly dining room, Dr Brash finished the perfect boiled egg, checked his laptop again and smiled. “A new opportunity” he thought to himself.
Vote:August 10th, 2012 at 10:55 am
@jacob – I think he’s too busy extorting cash from Auckland ratepayers
Vote:August 10th, 2012 at 10:57 am
BeaB you have hit the nail on the head. When the party itself can’t articulate what it stands for, the leader is weak and struggles for the support of his caucus Labour are simply not a credible option.
Vote:August 10th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
I think mavxp is right.
Labour’s leadership issues are a symptom of a deeper malaise. There is a limit to what a salesman/woman can do when the product is crap. But most Labour people do not want to admit that the product is crap, because it is what they believe in.
Vote:August 10th, 2012 at 6:17 pm
youre banging on about this too much. I know as a lackey of the right its your job to dig potholes but youre overplaying it now
Vote:hit the treadmill instead
August 10th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
The problem is that there is no Someone Else, and the Labour alternatives to Someone Else are even worse than Caspar
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