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The world’s largest sources of refugees include countries like Afghanistan, Iraq, and Sierra Leone, and some of the countries hosting the most refugees include countries like Pakistan, Syria, Jordan, Iran, and Guinea. Approximately 70 percent of the world refugee population is in Africa and the Middle East, and these people are escaping war, persecution, torture, and things that most of us cannot even imagine, and here we are drumming up a sense of them being a threat to us. It is a joke, and it is an offensive joke.* Imagine yourself alone or with your family, fleeing for your life, and then being treated as a threat and a danger to the citizens of the country you had made it to.* – See more at: http://www.greens.org.nz/speeches/jan-logies-speech-immigration-amendment-bill#sthash.gyRG4aSd.dpuf
characterising refugee problems as one family wanting to be rescued is a bit disingenuous given the scale of the problem:
“Some people[who?] are concerned that the recent sharp population rises in many countries in Sub-Saharan Africa, the Middle East, South Asia and South East Asia is creating problems such as increased demand for resources, especially for the less fortunate countries. The population of Chad has, for example, ultimately grown from 6,279,921 in 1993 to 10,329,208 in 2009.[41] Vietnam, Mexico, Nigeria, Egypt, Ethiopia and the DRC are witnessing a similar growth in population. The situation is most acute in northern, western and central Africa. Refugees from places like Sudan have further strained the resources of neighboring states like Chad and Egypt. The nation[clarification needed] is also host to roughly 255,000 refugees from Sudan’sDarfur region, and about 77,000 refugees from the Central African Republic, while approximately 188,000 Chadians have been displaced by their own civil war and famines, have either fled to either the Sudan, the Niger or, more recently, Libya.”
hj – the particular ‘modern policy tool’ he is referring to is ‘quantative easing’ – also known as printing money. There is nothing modern about this in NZ, it was the former Social Credit Party’s fundamental policy. Another way of putting it is to plunder peoples’ savings (especially the elderly and kids) which is effectively a crude and badly targeted ‘wealth tax’. Because of the risk of oonies geting control of NZ’s finances, many people still believe in ‘bricks and mortar’ as an investment.
2.2. TANGATA TIRITI – PĀKEHĀ Many Pākehā agree that Māori grievances about the past should be addressed.
ETC A significant number of Pākehā argue that all New Zealanders must embrace the relevance of the Treaty as the constitutional foundation of our society. This involves recognising past breaches of the Treaty, as well as the implications of the Treaty in forging our future. These Pākehā argue that addressing the future requires recognition of how, because of these breaches, Pākehā have secured a position of privilege in current society, and placed Māori in a position of disadvantage. These people subsequently view Te Tiriti o Waitangi not only as a Māori issue, but also as an issue of social justice for all New Zealanders. (See, for example, http://www.waitangi.co.nz/Chapter10HealingOurHistory.pdf).
‘Open Letter/ OIA request to NZ Prime Minister John Key – how can the Government ‘get a good price for Mighty River Power, when thousands ‘Switch Off Mercury Energy’?
Dear Prime Minister,
Please be advised of the founding aim of the ‘Switch Off Mercury Energy’ community group, of which I am a Spokesperson:
“MINUTES(CONFIRMED) FOUNDING MEETING OF ‘SWITCH OFF MERCURY ENERGY’
15 August 2012 Grey Lynn Community Centre 510 Richmond Rd Grey Lynn.
HELP STOP THE PRIVATISATION OF MIGHTY RIVER POWER BY SWITCHING OFF MERCURY ENERGY! (100% owned by Mighty River Power)
AIM: To help stop the privatisation of public assets – particularly the proposed privatisation of the first of the electricity State-Owned Assets (SOEs), Mighty River Power, by FOCUSING ON getting 100,000 customers to SWITCH OFF Mercury Energy (100% owned by Mighty River Power). Fewer customers equals less profits which equals a less attractive investment and jeopardises the Governments proposed agenda.
“Let me make it quite clear. If the Government doesn’t get a good price – the Government isn’t going to sell” (Tony Ryall, Minister of SOE’s 17/6/2012 NBR
The Government has no right to sell our public assets.
PRECEDENT: In 2008, Contact Energy (already privatized) doubled their directors fees and raised their prices 12%.In 6 months, more than 40,000 customers switched from Contact Energy and their profits were halved.
1) Please confirm that the publicly-stated position stated by the Minister of State-Owned Eneterprises Tony Ryall, is unchanged:
“Let me make it quite clear. If the Government doesn’t get a good price – the Government isn’t going to sell” (Tony Ryall, Minister of SOE’s 17/6/2012
2) Please provide the information which confirms HOW a ‘good price’ for Mighty River Power is/has been calculated.
3) Please provide the information which confirms WHO has/is responsible for the calculation of a ‘good price’ for Mighty River Power.
4) Please provide the information which confirms that has/is responsible for the calculation of a ‘good price’ for Mighty River Power, are independent, and professionally competent, and do not have any untoward ‘ conflicts of interest’ / vested interests in the sale of Mighty River Power.
5) Please confirm that you are aware of your statutory duties arising from the Public Records Act 2005
(a)to provide for the continuation of the repository of public archives called the National Archives with the name Archives New Zealand (Te Rua Mahara o te Kāwanatanga); and
(b)to provide for the role of the Chief Archivist in developing and supporting government recordkeeping, including making independent determinations on the disposal of public records and certain local authority archives; and
(c)to enable the Government to be held accountable by—
(i)ensuring that full and accurate records of the affairs of central and local government are created and maintained; and
(ii)providing for the preservation of, and public access to, records of long-term value; and
(d)to enhance public confidence in the integrity of public records and local authority records; and
(e)to provide an appropriate framework within which public offices and local authorities create and maintain public records and local authority records, as the case may be; and
(f)through the systematic creation and preservation of public archives and local authority archives, to enhance the accessibility of records that are relevant to the historical and cultural heritage of New Zealand and to New Zealanders’ sense of their national identity; and
(g)to encourage the spirit of partnership and goodwill envisaged by the Treaty of Waitangi (Te Tiriti o Waitangi), as provided for by section 7; and
(h)to support the safekeeping of private records.
Yours sincerely,
Penny Bright
A Spokesperson for the Switch Off Mercury Energy community group.
Komatuta from matakana travel to Rena wreck at taxpayers expense to begin the process of repairing healing their emotional upset that occured as a result of the rena accident……………….
Saturday Night Live takes aim at the Obama sequester in which Obama says he has “no idea how money works, or budgets work”. You can watch at the link below full screen –
Why do you persist in pleading, “Look at me! Look at me! PLEEEASE look at me!” I understand that your prime motivation – if not your only motivation – is to gain attention for yourself, but really it’s not becoming.
I understand that you do not seriously believe in the causes you purport to stand for. After all, if you did, would such an experienced activist as yourself act in such a way as to bring ridicule, scorn and pity upon yourself? Most people picture you as the howling, squawking, and abusive person from Aotea Square, sobbing at the injustice of it all. Or they remember you as the person who stood for public election, and then willfully vandalised the billboards of her opponent. Would someone who is such an experienced activist, who claims to be so politically aware, deliberately act in such a way as to guarantee that any message she might have will inevitably be overshadowed by her bizarre antics – if she truly cared about getting the message out there? I really don’t think so.
Penny, I understand this, and for that reason I will no longer insult you, for I believe you are to be pitied.
Maybe lprent should stick to programming, since “coming out” from his big project he is going from embarrassment to embarrassment.
He has defended his meek moderation of Millsy’s rampage of abuse and threats of violence, saying Millsy has mae many comments in the past with few warnings – that’s because he has previously gotten away with abuse and inciting violence with few warnings.
For example in January Millsy, after typical extreme abuse “FUCKING FILTHY BITCH WHY DOES SHE WANT TO ROB THE EARTH FROM OUR CHILDREN, PERHAPS SHE SHOULD DUMP TOXIC WASTE IN HER BACK YARD”, said “Any ladies on here want to beat the crap out of Monique? Needs a good slapping that bitch.” And lprent didn’t warn him for that.
On the latest outburst lprent says “I acted accordingly for a known commentator who appeared to be having a bad day.” Another “bad day”.
The pertinent comment there is “known commentator” – in other words one of the protected attack mob.
And Prentice’s debut bluster at The Daily Blog continues to backfire.
DPF has made ot clear he isn’t “fed from Minister’s offices at tax payers expense”, something Charles Chauvel claimed and Prentice repeated.
“and found Pete George acting as a parrot for Whaleoil” is laughable nonsense, as is calling me a right wing blogger.
But it turns out he was also bullshitting in his claims about Standard author’s connections with about, despite obvious indications Prentice denied that IrishBill was a Labour Party member – Irish has confirmed that he is.
Makes one wonder what other Prentice claims are ignorant bluster – or deliberate hypocritical falsehoods.
70 percent of the world refugee population is in Africa and the Middle East, and these people are escaping war, persecution, torture, and things that most of us cannot even imagine
They are escaping the consequences of their actions. They carry with them the same ideas and behaviour as their tormentors, only difference is they are on the losing side this time.
Pete, why do you bother? No, really, why??? lprent is a hypocritcal moron, a talentless hack who rates his web skills where others can clearly see he has none. He presides over a single view site that purports to value reasoned and reasonable debate, where none such exists – and to top it all, he tolerates abuse and threats IF its ‘on message’.
lprent is poison, a more twisted train wreck of a site and a person I cannot imagine. You really should just leave them to it – you will change nothing there. Ever.
I am busting my arse trying to do the right thing and improve myself through being wise with my money.
Firstly, I’m not very employable, except that I’m fluent in Mandarin (self-taught), which has got me into the current job that I’m in.
Since, I’m not very employable, I’ve done two things. I’ve self-studied business through books written by successful businessmen and I’m applying that knowledge in the setting up of my own business. I’ve already registered a company and it should hopefully launch in two months time. As I get busier and if my income from that business grows, I hope to quit my current job and run that company full time.
2. I’m frugal with my $36,000 per annum salary. To save money, I grow most of my vegetables in my tiny yard. I wear clothes until they are thread bare and I choose not to have a car. I walk to work, which takes 40 minutes each way and bus on rainy days.
3. I save as much as I can towards a house. I’m realistic and know that I won’t be able to buy my first house in Auckland, so if I plan to buy my first house in Dunedin.
I don’t see why the Greens think that I am doing something wrong that deserves to be punished by having my savings eroded. I live a debt free and frugal lifestyle now so that I can get ahead in future. It’s a worthwhile sacrifice. Why print more money when you know it will hurt people like me trying to get ahead? I just don’t get it.
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I see Judge Phillippa Cunningham is up to her usual standards, rewarding retards that abuse vulnerable members of the community with wet bus tickets, in this case home detention served in a drug rehab centre.
Maybe he made her laugh… I’m not, and I don’t think anyone else who pays this obviously out of touch and over paid judge is either. For goodness sake, this scum criminal is a time bomb – read the Herald article today and decide if the judge should be given the DCM.
That Penny Bright is spearheading opposition to the partial sale of Mighty River Power should strengthen acceptance of the Government’s plan. If Penny is against it, it’s probably a very sound idea
It’s notable that Penny also posts identical cut and pastes at The Standard (and who knows where else) and raises little interest there for her campaign. She seems to have a lack of credibility across the political spectrum.
There’s a stoush brewing between the Real Estate industry and the makers of the TV comedy Agent Anna (and I have to confess that I like Robyn Malcolm in this far more than in Outrageous Fortune). And actor Roy Billing has ripped the real estate wallahs a good one this morning:
And Millsy has been like that for years. More than seven years ago he was infamous for constantly saying that people will be dying in A&E if National ever get in and there would be blood on the streets. He’s more than a bit rabid. Best to stay away.
Thanks Lucia Maria, interesting. Seems like Millsy and Redbaiter are blood in the street brothers from way back.
And Millsy is not alone as a union supporter with deliberately abrasive views. Whale has posted this from Actors Equity vice-president Todd Rippon:
As Vice-President of New Zealand Actors’ Equity it is my job to agitate and get underneath the skin of people like you ie employers. Unions exist to work against employer’s best interests. That’s how it works.
You live in a country that has accepted that system. It may not be perfect but it’s fairer than any other system in the world. If you don’t love your country as much as I do then grow your business and take it to China. I’m sure you’d love your employees to have the same guaranteed minimum terms, conditions and pay as New Zealand Actors currently have, which is exactly none
I don’t accept this system of trying to destroy the han that feeds you, and I think most in this country would also be concerend about this combative attitude.
KS, I dont have an opinion on the show, but I cant stand the arse that is R Malcolm. But I think the comment that “”Ms O’Sullivan begs to differ and would have us all believe that real estate agents are near sainthood in their business practices, as I am sure all commission sales people are.” is way off the mark.
Her response was that it isnt real life. Seems fair to me.
Possible conflict of interest disclosure. I knew Ms O’Sullivan many years ago. Bloody good at what she did back then, and a very cool lady to boot.
Penny – You should have not the slightest surprize that the Government is now moving to make Mighty River Power shares available on the Australian share market as well as NZX. This of course to try to ensure the highest price possible, one factor being that people here in New Zealand are attempting to lower that price through ‘Switch Off Mercury Energy’
While you claim to be “anti corruption” your actions in fact fall into the area of treason – attempting to lower the value of national assets.
On the plus side, most of your actions appear totally ineffectual. Like your election results.
On the other hand some of your actions are totally counterproductive – like your having cleared John Banks of any electoral wrongdoing – by the top five inquiring bodies in the country in their positive responses [for Banks] in response to your negative claims – when it is apparent he [in asking for donations to be split] is very likely morally wrong, and everyone – from the Prime Minister up – knows it.
Your influence, if any, is as effective as the anti-smacking bill, where defective parents instead of abusing children themselves, now get their exempt brothers and sisters to do it, achieving the same result as before but compounding the damage.
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But then someone who responds to the comment – “Pay your rates thieving bludging bloody mad woman” with - “‘thedavincimode’ – you have NO idea how much you have made my day ”
indicates Penny Bright’s real motivation.
I think DPF should bring in a system that anyone who gets (say) 25 thumbs down for a comment gets a week off.
Penny would only get one comment every 8 days
Oh and anyone who gets 25 thumbs up gets chocolate fish in the mail !
(Terms and Conditions apply, limit one per blogger per week)
“A teenager on bail when he robbed an 81-year-old woman, breaking her hip and wrist and disabling her for life, has been sentenced to home detention.
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I guess they must be handing out judge appointments in weetbix packets these days.
The judge needs to be sacked. Unbelievable.
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You are right PG, but tell me how she gets away with not paying
for her services for 4 or 5 years ?
Other people would be tossed out or have their services cut off !!
And Stuff does it again.
“http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8377186/Teens-critically-injured-in-police-chase”
Why oh why do they insist on these headlines? Surely “Teen Girl car thieving scumbags injure selves while fleeing police” would grab the attention just as well.
IT IS NOT THE FAULT OF THE POLICE!
or am I becoming sensitised to this crap?
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Drive down the value of MRP right before the sale!
Why do you hate New Zealand Ratepayers/Taxpayers so much?
After all they have done for you – paying for the water coming thru your taps, subsidising all of your failed political campaigns and attention-seeking!
Good on you Carlos..Well done in being so committed and organized..also terrific on learning Mandarin. I wish you all the best.
Are you familiar with the frugal living websites? The New Zealand one ”Living on the smell of an oily rag” is very useful and relevant.
Dimes has a tip. A few years ago i was toying with the idea of doing some post grad study. then i thought – why dont i just get the reading lists from each course and read the book so thats pretty much what i do.
there are some good lectures/ courses online too. youtube…
Greece is not longer a developed country, now classified as “an emerging market”.
Counties where successive governments bribe voters with their own money are on the same tragectory. Being a cute, can-do nation in a sleepy corner of the Pacific makes no difference.
“P.G., you seem to be asking for it when you mingle with scum like the girly lprent.”
I’m well aware of that. He made a volcano out of a molehill with his Daily Blog attempt and ended up with ash on his face. Even a co-author contradicted his bluster.
I have expected for some time that he may try to attack and discredit and character assasinate. I just don’t know how much he will lower himself into the mud slinging.
But I think he should be taken to task. His “Standard” is a symptom of wider Labour problems – repetitive foot shooting self discrediting.
If we are to have a better opposition, and a credible next Government, and a credible forum for the left in the blogosphere, then someone needs to be confronting the destructiveness of the Mallards and Prentices in order to address the self defeating toxicity.
Reports about his magazine article calling for young Muslims to be banned from Western airlines went around the world and now the UN’s Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination has had its say.
“The committee regrets the recent inflammatory remarks by a Member of Parliament vilifying persons from Central Asia or the Middle East based on their skin colour and country of origin as well as their religion,” it says in the New Zealand section of its latest report.
“It welcomes the strong criticism of such statements by the Minister of Justice and Ethnic Affairs and the Race Relations Commissioner, among others.”
The committee must not yet be aware of Prosser’s conversion.
bhudson – but there is a risk and we simply aren’t sufficiently prepared.
If an undersea earthquake in the Southern Ocean breaks open an oil reservoir an ecological catastrophe could come right up the east coast of New Zealand via the Canterbury Current.
To prepare for this risk we should be considering moving the islands to a less earthquake prone region.
Azeraph – don’t know if you noticed, I picked up on your post on Thusrday night and posted on climate change on Friday morning, not many bites but a few comments proved the point.
“An oil spill the size of Deepwater Horizon is likely to occur again and New Zealand is not ready to respond if it happens here, the Greens say. ”
Water quality in the Gulf quickly returned to pre spill levels. Check for yourselves.
None of the dire predictions made by greenies, and those chasing the dollars, came true. There are organisms in the ocean which devour oil, assisted by the currents. Often “clean up” attempts do more harm than good. This is well known, but attempts are made for the PR. People want them to “do something”. The Rena fuss is a good example.
It is worth remembering crude oil is a natural organic compound and nature knows how to deal with it.
Penny Bright really doesn’t live up to her name does she? I mean how much of a moron do you have to be to deliberate try to devalue National Assets? So not only do we miss out on the best return for the 49% but the 51% we own will be worth less and instead of being an asset it will be a liability! If they have no customers it will go out of business! WTF planet does this crazy nut job live on?
This government prides itself on a business like approach to issues. It likes to cut through quickly and resolve issues before they get too bogged down in red tape. For many New Zealanders, this pragmatism is welcome, coming after years of stultification and wariness under successive previous governments.
A lot of this change is due to the attitude and style of the Prime Minister, who is focused on achieving things and making a difference. In general, it is an approach which has worked well and probably explains in part at least why the government remains so popular in its fifth year in office.
But, as a couple of recent examples show, there is a danger that the cut through which has been one of the government’s hallmarks will become a major problem for it.
Take the case of the Sky City Convention Centre proposal. There is no doubt Auckland needs a world class convention centre, and that in all probability, Sky City is arguably in the best position to develop such a facility. No problem with that, subject, of course, to the specifics of the deal stacking up. But as the Auditor-General’s report shows, while there has been no impropriety in the process followed by the government, it did play very fast and loose at times.
Similarly, with the Hobbit movies. No-one seriously opposed making the movies here, and the government would have been roundly criticised if let the opportunity slip through its fingers, but as the various documents recently released show, the government’s enthusiasm for the movies being made here did get in the way of the facts from time to time as deals were struck to ensure the right outcome.
There is a time-bomb warning to the government here. Support for the cut through approach will wither if it is seen to be a standard proxy for bending the rules or doing special deals to achieve the desired outcome. While the government is not immediately vulnerable on this issue, the clock has started ticking.
And it is worth remembering the adage, the ends do not justify the means.
I’ve often seen critics of the left claiming they can have an ideological arrogance and think that the certainty that they are right justifies achieving by any means possible.
It’s fair to aim the same criticism at National in these examples. They should heed this warning.
Looks like some of the press in the U.S are beginning to wake up.
It started when Bob Woodward (half of the famous Woodward and Bernstein journalists who helped take down Nixon) wrote a column calling out Obama’s lies about the sequester and showing that it was Obama’s idea to begin with. Woodward got an email from the Whitehouse threatening “you’ll regret doing that” and he reported that too. This former hero of the Left has now been attacked by just about all his liberal peers now for reporting honestly about their messiah, Obama.
Now, Woodward alleges that he was bullied even ahead of publishing his report. He told Politico Wednesday that one Obama aide “yelled at me for about a half hour” and in an email message delivered a veiled threat.
“It was said very clearly: ‘you will regret doing this,’” Woodward told CNN. “I’m not going to say [who], a very senior person. It makes me very uncomfortable to have the White House telling reporters you’re going to regret doing something you believe in.”
Turns out the “senior person” was White House Economic Council Gene Sperling.
Now other journalists have come forward saying they’ve been targeted with veiled threats, too, such as Ron Fournier –
As editor-in-chief of National Journal, I received several e-mails and telephone calls from this White House official filled with vulgarity, abusive language, and virtually the same phrase that Woodward called a veiled threat. “You will regret staking out that claim,” The Washington Post reporter was told.
Once I moved back to daily reporting this year, the badgering intensified. I wrote Saturday night, asking the official to stop e-mailing me. The official wrote, challenging Woodward and my tweet. “Get off your high horse and assess the facts, Ron,” the official wrote.
I wrote back:
“I asked you to stop e-mailing me. All future e-mails from you will be on the record — publishable at my discretion and directly attributed to you. My cell-phone number is … . If you should decide you have anything constructive to share, you can try to reach me by phone. All of our conversations will also be on the record, publishable at my discretion and directly attributed to you.” I haven’t heard back from the official. It was a step not taken lightly because the note essentially ended our working relationship.
And this young female reporter, who got called a “b*tch, a c*nt, and an asshole”
Finally, this week, reporters are pushing back. Even Jonathan Alter — who frequently appears on the Obama-friendly MSNBC — came forward to say he, too, had been treated horribly by the administration for writing something they didn’t like.
“There is a kind of threatening tone that, from time to time — not all the time — comes out of these guys,” Alter said this week. During the 2008 campaign swing through Berlin, Alter said that future White House press secretary Robert Gibbs disinvited him from a dinner between Obama and the press corps over it.
“I was told ‘Don’t come,’ in a fairly abusive e-mail,” he said. “[It] made what Gene Sperling wrote [to Woodward] look like patty-cake.”
“I had a young reporter asking tough, important questions of an Obama Cabinet secretary,” says one DC veteran. “She was doing her job, and they were trying to bully her. In an e-mail, they called her the vilest names — bitch, c–t, a–hole.” He complained and was told the matter would be investigated: “They were hemming and hawing, saying, ‘We’ll look into it.’ Nothing happened.”
This would be same UN that elects mass murderers Sudan and Syria to top human rights committees?
No. This UN.
Robert Mugabe asked to be UN ‘leader for tourism’
With a line-up that includes Drew Barrymore, David Beckham, Orlando Bloom, and Ricky Martin, the UN’s choice of ambassadors has been known to cause raised eyebrows or the odd smirk.
Seldom, however, has there been such anger, or questioning of the organisation’s credibility, as that greeting the appointment of a new international envoy for tourism: Robert Mugabe.
A 13-year-old girl, “Elizabeth” described to the BBC how 10 UN peacekeepers gang-raped her in a field near her Ivory Coast home.
‘Elizabeth’ tells the BBC about her abuse
“They grabbed me and threw me to the ground and they forced themselves on me… I tried to escape but there were 10 of them and I could do nothing,” she said.
“I was terrified. Then they just left me there bleeding.”
Can I just take a moment to observe that not even one you know what has taken the trouble to acknowledge the commendable retraint shown by the non you know whats in not mentioning today’s revelations regarding you know what by a senior UK you know what in the you know what.
That those you know whats who have been so prominent in demonising you know what between consenting adults of the same you know what, and who rise so quickly to the bait in alleging you know what bashing in the face of what has now descended into an avalanche of you know whating and you know whating-ups over this you know whating, now remain so conspicously absent today in the face of this latest revelation of homo you know whating, speaks volumes for those of you know whats because they have once more elected to hide plotting their next counter offensive rather than front-footing the issue and taking on the chin (so to speak).
The whorish Dunne’s greed is boundless.
Damaging business from an ineffective Labour lite government that claims to be business-friendly. Actions speak louder than words.
A 14 year old girl is raped, charged with adultery and sentenced to 100 lashes, drops after 70 lashes and eventually dies.
The man who raped her is sentenced to 201 lashes but is let off after only a few.
Society of women haters.
At least her father has spoken out and police are supposedly investigating (although the family is under protection in case they are killed)
Mahbub Khan came back to Shariatpur from a stint working in Malaysia. His son was Hena’s age and the two were in seventh grade together.
Khan eyed Hena and began harassing her on her way to school and back, said Hena’s father. He complained to the elders who run the village about his nephew, three times Hena’s age.
The elders admonished Mahbub Khan and ordered him to pay $1,000 in fines to Hena’s family. But Mahbub was Darbesh’s older brother’s son and Darbesh was asked to let the matter fade.
Many months later on a winter night, as Hena’s sister Alya told it, Hena was walking from her room to an outdoor toilet when Mahbub Khan gagged her with cloth, forced her behind nearby shrubbery and beat and raped her.
Hena struggled to escape, Alya told CNN. Mahbub Khan’s wife heard Hena’s muffled screams and when she found Hena with her husband, she dragged the teenage girl back to her hut, beat her and trampled her on the floor.
The next day, the village elders met to discuss the case at Mahbub Khan’s house, Alya said. The imam pronounced his fatwa. Khan and Hena were found guilty of an illicit relationship. Her punishment under sharia or Islamic law was 101 lashes; his 201.
Mahbub Khan managed to escape after the first few lashes.
Darbesh Khan and Aklima Begum had no choice but to mind the imam’s order. They watched as the whip broke the skin of their youngest child and she fell unconscious to the ground.
Monday, the doctors responsible for Hena’s first autopsy faced prosecution for what a court called a “false post-mortem report to hide the real cause of Hena’s death.”
Public outrage sparked by that autopsy report prompted the high court to order the exhumation of Hena’s body in February. A second autopsy performed at Dhaka Medical College Hospital revealed Hena had died of internal bleeding and her body bore the marks of severe injuries.
Police were guarding Hena’s family earlier this month. Darbesh and Aklima feared reprisal for having spoken out against the imam and the village elders.
They had meted out the most severe punishment for their youngest daughter. They could put nothing past them.
“I’ve nothing to demand but justice,” said Darbesh Khan, leading a reporter to the place where his daughter was abducted the night she was raped.
He stood in silence and took a deep breath. She wasn’t even old enough to be married, he said, testament to Hena’s tenderness in a part of the world where many girls are married before adulthood. “She was so small.”
Hena’s mother, Aklima, stared vacantly as she spoke of her daughter’s last hours. She could barely get out her words. “She was innocent,” Aklima said, recalling Hena’s last words.
“…..3. I save as much as I can towards a house. I’m realistic and know that I won’t be able to buy my first house in Auckland, so if I plan to buy my first house in Dunedin….”
A 14 year old girl is raped, charged with adultery and sentenced to 100 lashes, drops after 70 lashes and eventually dies.
The man who raped her is sentenced to 201 lashes but is let off after only a few.
Society of women haters.
It is disgusting the way people are treated there, especially women. However we cant talk. We have a society of man haters. Innocent men are imprisoned for rapes that never occured. They are thrown out of there homes and lose everything with the full support of our man hating legal system. A womens word is always taken over that of a man.
Our misandry has become so normalised that we no longer see it. Just as those you speak out against can not see it in their society. We are every bit as bad as they are.
“Mahbub Khan’s wife heard Hena’s muffled screams and when she found Hena with her husband, she dragged the teenage girl back to her hut, beat her and trampled her on the floor.”
She died from those injuries, given by another women.
You see women are not “victims” of Islam, they are part of it. Most wimpish Western men can not get their heads around that fact because they have been brain washed into thinking women are victims. They are not.
Yeh, I saw that, but strangely she took all her anger out on the little girl who was being raped, and not her husband at all.
I guess it would have been impossible to actually blame him or to speak against him.
Atheism is tipped to continue its rise in this year’s census results, while those identifying as Christian will fall below 50 per cent.
In the 2006 census, just over two million people, or 55.6 per cent of those answering the religious affiliation question, identified with a Christian religion. In the 2001 census, the figure was 60.6 per cent.
Those ticking “no religion” rose from 29 per cent in 2001 to 34.7 per cent.
Victoria University religious studies teaching fellow Will Hoverd said he expected the “nones” to rise to about 40 per cent, and predicted a drop to between 45 per cent and 50 per cent identifying as Christian.
Technically, belief in non-existent global warming is a religion.
Speaking of which, I don’t suppose anyone knowledgable about the subject will be at all surprised at Michael Mann’s latest complete misrepresentation of the data:
Steve McIntyre the oil company geologist
just who I would expect to be in denial
funny then watwat that all scientific bodies endorse climate change and you dont
I guess that science is not your cup of tea then. It would be more along the lines of belief persuaded by un scientific rubbish from nutjob denial sites Ie cult stuff for thickos.
……eh……
Daily Mail UK – Benedict has resigned to ensure that the whole ‘Filth’ from many countries of the world right up to the Vatican centre is cleansed. He has given up his job to kick out all the office-holders and start again.
While the college of cardinals appears to have been shocked by the resignation, Benedict’s drastic decision was both predicted and strongly recommended two years ago by an eminent American psychologist and former priest.
In 2011, Dr Richard Sipe, a greatly respected world expert on the priestly abuse scandal, declared that only the Pope’s resignation would resolve the paedophile priest crisis. Sipe charged that ‘along with other bishops, Benedict was complicit earlier in tolerating and covering up the crimes of the priests’.
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Benedict’s stunning self-sacrifice constitutes, in my view, the greatest gamble in the papacy’s 2,000-year history. If it works, the Church will begin to restore its besmirched reputation. If it fails, we Catholics are headed for calamitous conflict and fragmentation. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2287074/Pope-resigns-2013-Gay-sex-rings-The-Filth-corrupting-Vatican–Pope-REALLY-quit.html#ixzz2MXkhJxHW
Any increase in the number of Islam followers can only be bad for NZ.
The “religion of peace” is a vile and violent cult that belongs to the darkest ages of history. It’s not needed here.
If you are going to try to slander someone Griff make sure your bosses at Scam Head Office give the right information. Steve McIntyre mining career has been to the gold exploration business.
If your so called scientists knew something about statistics he probably would not even have a website. But Dr Mann is just such easy meat to pull apart !!!!!
A 14 year old girl is raped, charged with adultery and sentenced to 100 lashes, drops after 70 lashes and eventually dies.
Q1: If it’s Islam that “forces” people to do this then how come it doesn’t happen here amongst Muslims, or in most other Islamic countries?
Q2: Did anything like this used to happen in centuries past in countries without strong Islamic traditions like say various countries in Africa or Asia?
Q3: Is it at all possible that it’s not Islam, but the culture of the country where it happens, which is mainly responsible for behaviour like this?
Q4: Is Islam being used a whipping boy to get all the useful idiots all rarked up so that when say, a mid-West US city gets hit with a dirty nuke and they find a half-burnt Iranian passport in the irradiated rubble, the politicians won’t even need to convince said useful idiots that a war on Islam would be a jolly good thing, and that rather, said useful idiots will be clamouring for it?
I don’t have much time for John Campbell as a journalist but I have to say his piece on Solid Energy tonight was good. It looks like Elder has alot to answer for.
I had to laugh at the address of the Head Office –15 Show Place !!
I wonder how the Greens will feel about their big push for renewable energy businesses when they look at the Solid Energy investment in the biodiesel business .
“Atheism is tipped to continue its rise in this year’s census results, while those identifying as Christian will fall below 50 per cent.
In the 2006 census, just over two million people, or 55.6 per cent of those answering the religious affiliation question, identified with a Christian religion. In the 2001 census, the figure was 60.6 per cent.
Those ticking “no religion” rose from 29 per cent in 2001 to 34.7 per cent.”
Just because you don’t follow an organised religion doesn’t mean you are an Atheist.
Kea you are full of shit
link to the the leader of the ipcc saying no warming.
It does not exist except among the nutbar denail sites.
The cult of climate denail
Classic cult symptoms include hanging on the words of nutbars like McIntyre and Watts. Going against science on the word of a total dropout ex weather forecaster. Unfounded belief in total rubbish like you post is a sure sigh of fruit loop nutdom
“Just because you don’t follow an organised religion doesn’t mean you are an Atheist.”
Hey Longknifes – if you had actually read the rest of the article it goes on to say:
“The research suggests half of those ticking “no religion” are not atheist, and three-quarters of them believe in a god or spiritual life force. “What we’re finding is a demographic shift away from organised religion.”
It will take more than a large pile of cash to pay for this
Australia can expect more record heat over the next decade as a result of a “climate on steroids”, the climate commission warns.
Speaking at the release of a new report by the commission, climate scientist Will Steffen says Australians are likely to experience even hotter temperatures over the next 10 years.
“There is little doubt that these events will continue to become worse, the hottest temperature will become hotter, of longer duration and more frequent,” said Professor Steffen, who authored the report.
“This is virtually certain because of the extra heat that is in the atmosphere … We have a climate on steroids.”
The report “Angry Summer” argues the extreme weather of 2012/13 was climate change in action and more unusual events are on the way.
It notes that last summer 123 records were broken throughout Australia in 90 days, and that it was the nation’s hottest summer, capped by the longest and most extreme heatwave on record.
Prof Steffen said the findings of the new report into last summer’s extreme weather events showed climate change was real.
“I think what this is telling us is that climate change is not some hypothetical thing that will occur in the future, the climate has actually changed,” he told reporters on Monday.
The doctor, after an examination, sighed and said, ‘I’ve got some bad news. You have cancer, and you’d best put your affairs in order.’
The woman was shocked, but managed to compose herself and walk into the waiting room where her daughter had been waiting.
‘Well, daughter, we women celebrate when things are good, and we celebrate when things don’t go so well. In this case, things aren’t well. I have cancer. So, let’s head to the club and have a martini.’
After 3 or 4 martinis, the two were feeling a little less somber. There were some laughs and more martinis. They were eventually approached by some of the woman’s old friends, who were curious as to what the two were celebrating.
The woman told her friends they were drinking to her impending end, ‘I’ve been diagnosed with AIDS.’ The friends were aghast, gave the woman their condolences and beat a hasty retreat.
After the friends left, the woman’s daughter leaned over and whispered, ‘Momma, I thought you said you were dying of cancer, and you just told your friends you were dying of AIDS! Why did you do that??’
‘Because I don’t want any of those bitches sleeping with your father after I’m gone.’.
A married couple is travelling by car from Victoria to Prince George . Being seniors, after almost eleven hours on the road, they were too tired to continue and decided to take a room. But, they only planned to sleep for four hours and then get back on the road. When they checked out four hours later, the desk clerk handed them a bill for $350.00. The man explodes and demands to know why the charge is so high.
He told the clerk although it’s a nice hotel; the rooms certainly aren’t worth $350.00 for four hours. Then the clerk tells him that $350.00 is the ‘standard rate’. He insisted on speaking to the Manager. The Manager appears, listens to him, and then explains that the hotel has an Olympic-sized pool and a huge conference centre that were available for us to use.
“But we didn’t use them,” the husband said. “Well, they are here, and you could have,” explained the Manager. The Manager went on to explain that the couple could also have taken in one of the shows for which the hotel is famous.
“We have the best entertainers from New York , Hollywood , and Las Vegas perform here,” the Manager says.
“But we didn’t go to any of those shows,” the husband said. “Well, we have them, and you could have,” the Manager replied.
No matter what amenity the Manager mentioned, the husband replied, “But we didn’t use it!” The Manager is unmoved, and eventually the husband gave up and agreed topay.
As he didn’t have the check book, he asked his wife to write the check. She did and gave it to the Manager. The Manager is surprised when he looks at the check.
“But ma’am, this is made out for only $50.00.” “That’s correct. I charged you $300.00 for sleeping with me,” she replied. “But I didn’t!” exclaims the Manager. “Well, too bad, I was here, and you could have.” Don’t mess with senior citizens….. They didn’t get there by being stupid.
Ralph and Edna were both patients in a mental hospital. One day while they were walking past the hospital swimming pool Ralph suddenly jumped into the deep end.
He sank to the bottom of the pool and stayed there.
Edna promptly jumped in to save him. She swam to the bottom and pulled him out.
When the Head Nurse Director became aware of Edna’s heroic act she immediately ordered her to be discharged from the hospital, as she now considered her to be mentally stable.
When she went to tell Edna the news she said, “Edna, I have good news and bad news. The good news is you’re being discharged, since you were able to rationally respond to a crisis by jumping in and saving the life of the person you love. I have concluded that your act displays sound mindedness”.
“The bad news is, Ralph hung himself in the bathroom with his bathrobe belt right after you saved him. I am so sorry, but he’s dead.”
Edna replied, “He didn’t hang himself…..I put him there to dry”.
Griff (4,373) Says:
March 4th, 2013 at 7:41 pm
Kea you are full of shit
link to the the…
Shit Griff your stuttering, calm down
I have provided numerous links, as have many others. You have ignored them and ranted on about your absurd theory that they are all in the pay of BIG OIL. At the same time you have cowardly avoided asking simple questions about who funds the warmists.
One last time Griff, oil companies make money from oil. Warmists make money from AGW threats and have no other source of income. Simple as that. The first the world needs and cant get enough of, the other the world does not need or want.
Keep it up. Your doing way more than me to discredit your cult.
Actually I dont give a fuck about discrediting my argument its all about making fun of conspirowhacky nut bars like you
fruit loops http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/11/28/meet-the-climate-denial-machine/191545 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/7538934/Oil-conglomerate-secretly-funds-climate-change-deniers.html http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/feb/14/funding-climate-change-denial-thinktanks-network
Despite the overwhelming consensus among climate experts that human activity is contributing to rising global temperatures, 66 percent of Americans incorrectly believe there is “a lot of disagreement among scientists about whether or not global warming is happening.” The conservative media has fueled this confusion by distorting scientific research, hyping faux-scandals, and giving voice to groups funded by industries that have a financial interest in blocking action on climate change. Meanwhile, mainstream media outlets have shied away from the “controversy” over climate change and have failed to press U.S. policymakers on how they will address this global threat. When climate change is discussed, mainstream outlets sometimes strive for a false balance that elevates marginal voices and enables them to sow doubt about the science even in the face of mounting evidence.
Dear dear squawk no matter how many times you try to say my views are marginal the science still comes back its real its happening and we are the cause.
The only cult involved is the anti science cult of denial.
THE UN’s climate change chief, Rajendra Pachauri, has acknowledged a 17-year pause in global temperature rises, confirmed recently by Britain’s Met Office
But Griff denies the “pause”. KB is littered with his denials.
Don’t try and play the science card Griffy, the opposition is way better informed than you are.
Too funny griff, a Guardian article repeating allegations of $US120 million ( over 10 years), “…according to the Greenpeace analysis.”
$US120 million = €93 million, over 10 years, average €9.3 million per year.
Greenpeace: Budget €236.9 million (2011) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenpeace
So Greenpeace has about 25 times the budget of all of those think tanks combined.
Yep, we know why Greenpeace is propagating the alarm don’t we?
In spite of co2 levels increasing and the warmists telling us that causes an increase in temperatures, BIG OIL, has paid the climate to NOT CHANGE for two decades, just to discredit the IPCC.
I mean what else would a reasonable person think, given the increase in co2 over that time.
Actually ross wingnut that is the same link you have posted five times. it does not quote anyone and has no biases in fact. as I said link to the statement not some opinion piece in a newspaper .
[sigh] It’s not easy being green these days, especially if you’re a die-hard doomsayer of the global warming persuasion (that’s you gwiffucknuckle). Arctic ice has made a comeback, advancing so rapidly that the previous decade saw less ice at this time of the year than exists today. And previously balmy Arctic temperatures just nose-dived, according to the Danish Meteorological Institute, which has tracked Arctic temperatures since 1958.
Alarmists shudder when looking south, too, at the stats from Antarctica. There the sea ice extent started growing early this year, and the ice cover remains stubbornly above average. All told, the global sea ice — including both polar caps — now exceeds the average recorded since 1979, when satellites began their measurements.
Disasters are another disaster for the doomsayers, as documented in an October article by University of Colorado-Boulder Prof. Robert Pielke Jr., one of the world’s foremost experts in disasters and climate change. “Flooding has not increased over the past century, nor have landfalling hurricanes,” he reported. “Remarkably, the U.S. is currently experiencing the longest-ever recorded period with no strikes of a Category 3 or stronger hurricane.”
Pielke went on to note that the U.S. has seen a decline in drought over the past century, and that “Over the past six decades, tornado damage has declined after accounting for development that has put more property into harm’s way.” Similar conclusions apply to typhoons in China, bushfires in Australia, and windstorms in Europe. High-profile weather events have always and will always be with us; they just haven’t been as fateful of late. Moreover, the United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change earlier last year agreed that long-term climate change can’t be blamed for damage from extreme events.
The Holy Grail of proof to most doomsayers, of course, is the temperature, which global warming models insisted would rise in lock-step with increases in carbon dioxide. When the temperatures started to plateau in the late 1990s, doomsayers scoffed at the skeptics who noted that the models failed, taking comfort from the global warming leadership who explained every which way that the skeptics were torturing the statistics to falsely show warming had stopped. Now the leadership itself — the U.K.’s Met Office, NASA’s Jim Hansen, and the IPCC’s Rajendra Pachauri — all admit to temperatures having reached a standstill for the better part of two decades.
The lowly global warming believer (that’s you again gwiffucknuckle) is left with little but the promises from their leaders that, sooner or later, those temperatures will rise again.
Actually I always wait for the nutters to post first
its so easy to set them off almost as easy as winding the god squad
I run a news feed on climate science and global warming as well as subscribing to the SS comments section so have read the rubbish and refuting of it well before the nutbars have
Posts from nutbars are so full of holes its amazing their little brains dont explode with the contradictions.
Still fuckwits and the sheepie are sooooo stupid. do you know that the less educated the more likely you are to believe the rubbish they post http://americansecurityproject.org/featured-items/2012/climate-security-report/
One of the most significant challenges to the global security system in the 21st Century will be a changing climate; the effects of these changes are already being felt all over the world. Climate change poses a clear and present danger to the United States through its effects on our global allies as well as its direct effects on our agriculture, infrastructure, economy and public health.
And how’s the lovely Gergis doing these days? Has she got her paper accepted back into the journal? What about Lewandowsky and the paper he had rejected?
Actually axenuckle when you start using my language it shows me that I really get up your nose.
nutbars tm fruitloops tm and axenuckle tm
Twenty years how times fly in the nutterverse only last month it was fifteen.
pity that the warmest year on record was 2010 followed by 2005
In fact the last ten years have been the warmest on record followed by the ten before etc
As to not paying attention to rubbish why would any sane man read rubbish that is obviously crap and think that it is science.
Only in the world of fruitloop denial does a opinion piece count as science
13950 papers support the scientific consensus on climate change twenty four dont
I run a news feed on climate science and global warming as well as subscribing to the SS comments section…Climate change poses a clear and present danger to the United States …
Nothing obsessive there folks & nothing extreme.
And the cheeky bugger calls those of us who accept the evidence “nutters” !
Forbes the Australian and the daily mail same old same old. As I said the story is in the echo chamber yet has no reality behind it just rewrites of the original opinion piece from the Australian with no proof for the alleged quote.
http://desmogblog.com/2012/11/15/why-climate-deniers-have-no-credibility-science-one-pie-chart
I searched the Web of Science for peer-reviewed scientific articles published between 1 January 1991 and 9 November 2012 that have the keyword phrases “global warming” or “global climate change.” The search produced 13,950 articles. See methodology.
By my definition, 24 of the 13,950 articles, 0.17% or 1 in 581, clearly reject global warming or endorse a cause other than CO2 emissions for observed warming. The list of articles that reject global warming is here. The 24 articles have been cited a total of 113 times over the nearly 21-year period, for an average of close to 5 citations each. That compares to an average of about 19 citations for articles answering to “global warming,” for example. Four of the rejecting articles have never been cited; four have citations in the double-digits. The most-cited has 17.
This work follows that of Oreskes (Science, 2005) who searched for articles published between 1993 and 2003 with the keyword phrase “global climate change.” She found 928, read the abstracts of each and classified them. None rejected human-caused global warming. Using her criteria and time-span, I get the same result. Deniers attacked Oreskes and her findings, but they have held up.
Kea no matter how much you squawk the science still goes against your nutbar views.
The science says global warming nutbars says no
The AGW industry was started (and generously funded) by Margaret Thatcher, to stick it to the unionist coal miners and promote Nuclear energy as a safer option. She set them up to “prove” coal and oil were unsafe.
The IPCC are paid hacks and activists. They are not considered proper scientists by informed people.
Nah GRIEF as I have explained before, we all take great pleasure at laughing at your prepostorous dedication to the ALARMISM hoax.
You are the team bitch when it comes to the global warming scam debate so that is why you can only froth at the mouth with your inane and often illiterate claims.
BTW are you up to date with the credibility of your mates at Skeptical Science? Just like you, John Cook and his psych sidekick Dr. Stephan Levandowsky are big on conspiracy theory studies as a tool to smear skeptics, and are quite certain that climate skeptics are mentally aberrant, even though they never give skeptics a chance to vote in their horridly self serving and skewed surveys.
And the charming Glenn Tamblyn (Skeptical Science author/moderator) secretly conversing with his SkS pals on their off limits forum (which either got hacked or was left open by their own incompetence) said “we need a conspiracy to save humanity”. The Viet Cong comparison is a nice touch too. There’s talk of convening a “war council” too.
And this isn’t about science or personal careers and reputations any more. This is a fight for survival. Our civilisations survival. .. We need our own anonymous (or not so anonymous) donors, our own think tanks…. Our Monckton’s … Our assassins.
Anyone got Bill Gates’ private number, Warren Buffett, Richard Branson? Our ‘side’ has got to get professional, ASAP. We don’t need to blog. We need to network. Every single blog, organisation, movement is like a platoon in an army. ..This has a lot of similarities to the Vietnam War….And the skeptics are the Viet Cong… Not fighting like ‘Gentlemen’ at all. And the mainstream guys like Gleick don’t know how to deal with this. Queensberry Rules rather than biting and gouging.
..So, either Mother Nature deigns to give the world a terrifying wake up call. Or people like us have to build the greatest guerilla force in human history. Now. Because time is up…Someone needs to convene a council of war of the major environmental movements, blogs, institutes etc. In a smoke filled room (OK, an incense filled room) we need a conspiracy to save humanity.
The problem for you is who is going to discredit mainstream science
That you keep calling climate scientists weathermen shows your stupidity. The only weather man I have seen quoted is A Watts and he is already discredited.
Face it cult thinking is the denail nut jobs you worship. The cult of anti science is alive and well with you and your fallow travelers being the cultists.
Hows the no warming going have you made it to thirty years yet? http://www.skepticalscience.com/trend.php
gee its not in the records so it must be real …..eh……I read it in the newspaper !
Ugly truth and chem trails
rightnow kea and watwat with agenda 21 and commie plots to rule the world.
Griff your the conspiracy nutter. You are obsessive:
“I run a news feed on climate science and global warming as well as subscribing to the SS comments section ”
You rant on about BIG OIL and the fictional “carbon industry” when ever a scientist disagrees with you. You have claimed that these evil forces are conduction an “experiment” on us. Even the IPCC has admitted to the fact there has been no warming for nearly two decades.
fuckin spinners
NASA scientists say 2012 was the ninth warmest of any year since 1880, continuing a long-term trend of rising global temperatures. With the exception of 1998, the nine warmest years in the 132-year record all have occurred since 2000, with 2010 and 2005 ranking as the hottest years on record.
IPCC does not represent consensus: Cook says that the IPCC guys are leaders and that the reports are too conservative. That’s, of course, nonsense in both cases. First, the IPCC is being elected by the governments – because it’s an “inter-governmental panel” on climate change – e.g. by politicians whose vast majority has no idea about science, and not even about the question who is a good scientist and who is not. They’re clearly choosing scientists according to their willingness and likelihood to produce the predetermined conclusions. Concerning the “conservative IPCC reports”, it’s a preposterous statement because every single problem that has been found about the IPCC report as of today was in the direction that the IPCC was more hysterical than what the science says – it was never in the other way around.
Satellites show no warming in the troposphere: He agrees but claims it’s an error, due to “satellite drift”. Well, again, inconvenient observations have to be doubly attacked, questioned, and an error has to be found. It’s a biased treatment. The fact is that the tropical troposphere should show, if the greenhouse model of warming is correct, the fastest warming trend. In reality, it shows one of the slowest trends and it’s very likely that the right interpretation is that this observation by itself rules out the greenhouse model of the recent warming. It’s surely inconvenient for fanatical believers but this emotional fact doesn’t make this argument less convincing from a scientific viewpoint.
Climate sensitivity is low: The fact is that the direct calculation gives 1.2 °C and all balanced analyses of the Earth’s history, including very old geological data, suggest that this is about right, i.e. the net feedbacks are small, with an unknown sign. All papers or claims going to 3 °C or higher are fabricated and cherry-pick something to “hype” this number that almost certainly can’t reach 3 °C. The promoted positive feedbacks may be viewed as a quantification of the hype, exaggeration, and fraud: 70 percent of the IPCC figure for the climate sensitivity is fabricated because a higher value is favored by the “big picture” of the political process.
Models are unreliable: Cook says that models have made predictions that were successfully compared to observations. Except that this is not enough for the models to be reliable. For them to be reliable, it would have to be the case that the models have produced no predictions that were inconsistent with the observations – because one wrong prediction is enough to falsify a model. Clearly, such falsification has taken place with all of them. In particular, all IPCC-endorsed models predicted a warming since 1998 that didn’t occur. They’re gone. Again, both sides agree that we can’t rely on them. Kevin Trenberth agrees that the disagreement of the models and the data is a travesty. There are hundreds of recent examples showing how deeply flawed the existing IPCC-endorsed models are.
Funny right now if all major scientific bodies the un and governments endorsers the consensus view on global warming you go to nut job denial sites and believe the spin.
repeatedly trying to convince your self now
what a nutter
Dear dear right often this is Kevin latest work
seems your source is fucked as usual http://www2.cgd.ucar.edu/future-warming-high-side
The climate models that most accurately captured these complex moisture processes and associated clouds, which have a major influence on global climate, were also the ones that showed the greatest amounts of warming as society emits more greenhouse gas into the atmosphere
March 4th, 2013 at 8:18 am
“The rest of the world is using modern policy tools to protect jobs for their workers while our government refuses to do anything. The result is that over 1,000 Kiwis a week are leaving this country looking for a brighter future in Australia, which National is failing to provide in New Zealand,” said Dr Norman. – See more at: http://www.greens.org.nz/press-releases/exodus-australia-breaks-another-record-nats-fail-act#sthash.T1zljhc0.dpuf
what’s he on about?
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 8:23 am
The world’s largest sources of refugees include countries like Afghanistan, Iraq, and Sierra Leone, and some of the countries hosting the most refugees include countries like Pakistan, Syria, Jordan, Iran, and Guinea. Approximately 70 percent of the world refugee population is in Africa and the Middle East, and these people are escaping war, persecution, torture, and things that most of us cannot even imagine, and here we are drumming up a sense of them being a threat to us. It is a joke, and it is an offensive joke.* Imagine yourself alone or with your family, fleeing for your life, and then being treated as a threat and a danger to the citizens of the country you had made it to.* – See more at: http://www.greens.org.nz/speeches/jan-logies-speech-immigration-amendment-bill#sthash.gyRG4aSd.dpuf
characterising refugee problems as one family wanting to be rescued is a bit disingenuous given the scale of the problem:
“Some people[who?] are concerned that the recent sharp population rises in many countries in Sub-Saharan Africa, the Middle East, South Asia and South East Asia is creating problems such as increased demand for resources, especially for the less fortunate countries. The population of Chad has, for example, ultimately grown from 6,279,921 in 1993 to 10,329,208 in 2009.[41] Vietnam, Mexico, Nigeria, Egypt, Ethiopia and the DRC are witnessing a similar growth in population. The situation is most acute in northern, western and central Africa. Refugees from places like Sudan have further strained the resources of neighboring states like Chad and Egypt. The nation[clarification needed] is also host to roughly 255,000 refugees from Sudan’sDarfur region, and about 77,000 refugees from the Central African Republic, while approximately 188,000 Chadians have been displaced by their own civil war and famines, have either fled to either the Sudan, the Niger or, more recently, Libya.”
Wikipaedia.
Keith Locke says we shouldn’t be “exclusionary”
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 8:26 am
hj – the particular ‘modern policy tool’ he is referring to is ‘quantative easing’ – also known as printing money. There is nothing modern about this in NZ, it was the former Social Credit Party’s fundamental policy. Another way of putting it is to plunder peoples’ savings (especially the elderly and kids) which is effectively a crude and badly targeted ‘wealth tax’. Because of the risk of oonies geting control of NZ’s finances, many people still believe in ‘bricks and mortar’ as an investment.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 8:33 am
UNESCO adopts Green Party policy
2.2. TANGATA TIRITI – PĀKEHĀ
Many Pākehā agree that Māori grievances about the past should be addressed.
ETC
A significant number of Pākehā argue that all New Zealanders must embrace the relevance of the Treaty as the constitutional foundation of our society. This involves recognising past breaches of the Treaty, as well as the implications of the Treaty in forging our future. These Pākehā argue that addressing the future requires recognition of how, because of these breaches, Pākehā have secured a position of privilege in current society, and placed Māori in a position of disadvantage. These people subsequently view Te Tiriti o Waitangi not only as a Māori issue, but also as an issue of social justice for all New Zealanders. (See, for example, http://www.waitangi.co.nz/Chapter10HealingOurHistory.pdf).
http://www.unesco.org.nz/priority-areas-/to-promote-dialogue-and-strategies-for-sustainable-futures/treaty-of-waitangi-web-resource
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 8:37 am
4 March 2013
‘Open Letter/ OIA request to NZ Prime Minister John Key – how can the Government ‘get a good price for Mighty River Power, when thousands ‘Switch Off Mercury Energy’?
Dear Prime Minister,
Please be advised of the founding aim of the ‘Switch Off Mercury Energy’ community group, of which I am a Spokesperson:
“MINUTES(CONFIRMED) FOUNDING MEETING OF ‘SWITCH OFF MERCURY ENERGY’
15 August 2012 Grey Lynn Community Centre 510 Richmond Rd Grey Lynn.
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HELP STOP THE PRIVATISATION OF MIGHTY RIVER POWER BY SWITCHING OFF MERCURY ENERGY! (100% owned by Mighty River Power)
AIM: To help stop the privatisation of public assets – particularly the proposed privatisation of the first of the electricity State-Owned Assets (SOEs), Mighty River Power, by FOCUSING ON getting 100,000 customers to SWITCH OFF Mercury Energy (100% owned by Mighty River Power). Fewer customers equals less profits which equals a less attractive investment and jeopardises the Governments proposed agenda.
“Let me make it quite clear. If the Government doesn’t get a good price – the Government isn’t going to sell” (Tony Ryall, Minister of SOE’s 17/6/2012 NBR
http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/govt-wont-sell-assets-if-it-cant-get-good-price-ryall-ck-121435
The Government has no right to sell our public assets.
PRECEDENT: In 2008, Contact Energy (already privatized) doubled their directors fees and raised their prices 12%.In 6 months, more than 40,000 customers switched from Contact Energy and their profits were halved.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/droughts/news/article.cfm?c_id=180&objectid=10590906&pnum=0 ……………”
____________________________________________________________________________________
Please provide the following information:
1) Please confirm that the publicly-stated position stated by the Minister of State-Owned Eneterprises Tony Ryall, is unchanged:
“Let me make it quite clear. If the Government doesn’t get a good price – the Government isn’t going to sell” (Tony Ryall, Minister of SOE’s 17/6/2012
2) Please provide the information which confirms HOW a ‘good price’ for Mighty River Power is/has been calculated.
3) Please provide the information which confirms WHO has/is responsible for the calculation of a ‘good price’ for Mighty River Power.
4) Please provide the information which confirms that has/is responsible for the calculation of a ‘good price’ for Mighty River Power, are independent, and professionally competent, and do not have any untoward ‘ conflicts of interest’ / vested interests in the sale of Mighty River Power.
5) Please confirm that you are aware of your statutory duties arising from the Public Records Act 2005
http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2005/0040/latest/DLM345536.html
Purposes of Act
The purposes of this Act are—
(a)to provide for the continuation of the repository of public archives called the National Archives with the name Archives New Zealand (Te Rua Mahara o te Kāwanatanga); and
(b)to provide for the role of the Chief Archivist in developing and supporting government recordkeeping, including making independent determinations on the disposal of public records and certain local authority archives; and
(c)to enable the Government to be held accountable by—
(i)ensuring that full and accurate records of the affairs of central and local government are created and maintained; and
(ii)providing for the preservation of, and public access to, records of long-term value; and
(d)to enhance public confidence in the integrity of public records and local authority records; and
(e)to provide an appropriate framework within which public offices and local authorities create and maintain public records and local authority records, as the case may be; and
(f)through the systematic creation and preservation of public archives and local authority archives, to enhance the accessibility of records that are relevant to the historical and cultural heritage of New Zealand and to New Zealanders’ sense of their national identity; and
(g)to encourage the spirit of partnership and goodwill envisaged by the Treaty of Waitangi (Te Tiriti o Waitangi), as provided for by section 7; and
(h)to support the safekeeping of private records.
Yours sincerely,
Penny Bright
A Spokesperson for the Switch Off Mercury Energy community group.
http://www.facebook.com/SwitchOffMercuryEnergy/info
‘Anti-corruption campaigner’
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 8:40 am
Komatuta from matakana travel to Rena wreck at taxpayers expense to begin the process of repairing healing their emotional upset that occured as a result of the rena accident……………….
what complete bullshit
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 8:44 am
LOL
Saturday Night Live takes aim at the Obama sequester in which Obama says he has “no idea how money works, or budgets work”. You can watch at the link below full screen –
http://videos.mediaite.com/embed/player/NXZ6RX3GJWVL5PH8
Or this youtube version (the only version I could find on youtube, but the frame is skewed a bit for copyright reasons I guess).
Love the ending, too, even though you can see what’s coming
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 8:48 am
Penny, Penny, Penny.
Why do you persist in pleading, “Look at me! Look at me! PLEEEASE look at me!” I understand that your prime motivation – if not your only motivation – is to gain attention for yourself, but really it’s not becoming.
I understand that you do not seriously believe in the causes you purport to stand for. After all, if you did, would such an experienced activist as yourself act in such a way as to bring ridicule, scorn and pity upon yourself? Most people picture you as the howling, squawking, and abusive person from Aotea Square, sobbing at the injustice of it all. Or they remember you as the person who stood for public election, and then willfully vandalised the billboards of her opponent. Would someone who is such an experienced activist, who claims to be so politically aware, deliberately act in such a way as to guarantee that any message she might have will inevitably be overshadowed by her bizarre antics – if she truly cared about getting the message out there? I really don’t think so.
Penny, I understand this, and for that reason I will no longer insult you, for I believe you are to be pitied.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 8:53 am
Maybe lprent should stick to programming, since “coming out” from his big project he is going from embarrassment to embarrassment.
He has defended his meek moderation of Millsy’s rampage of abuse and threats of violence, saying Millsy has mae many comments in the past with few warnings – that’s because he has previously gotten away with abuse and inciting violence with few warnings.
For example in January Millsy, after typical extreme abuse “FUCKING FILTHY BITCH WHY DOES SHE WANT TO ROB THE EARTH FROM OUR CHILDREN, PERHAPS SHE SHOULD DUMP TOXIC WASTE IN HER BACK YARD”, said “Any ladies on here want to beat the crap out of Monique? Needs a good slapping that bitch.” And lprent didn’t warn him for that.
On the latest outburst lprent says “I acted accordingly for a known commentator who appeared to be having a bad day.” Another “bad day”.
The pertinent comment there is “known commentator” – in other words one of the protected attack mob.
lprent makes excuses for Millsy favoritism
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 9:00 am
And Prentice’s debut bluster at The Daily Blog continues to backfire.
DPF has made ot clear he isn’t “fed from Minister’s offices at tax payers expense”, something Charles Chauvel claimed and Prentice repeated.
“and found Pete George acting as a parrot for Whaleoil” is laughable nonsense, as is calling me a right wing blogger.
But it turns out he was also bullshitting in his claims about Standard author’s connections with about, despite obvious indications Prentice denied that IrishBill was a Labour Party member – Irish has confirmed that he is.
Makes one wonder what other Prentice claims are ignorant bluster – or deliberate hypocritical falsehoods.
Prentice falsehood claims proven false
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 9:02 am
70 percent of the world refugee population is in Africa and the Middle East, and these people are escaping war, persecution, torture, and things that most of us cannot even imagineThey are escaping the consequences of their actions. They carry with them the same ideas and behaviour as their tormentors, only difference is they are on the losing side this time.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 9:06 am
Pete, why do you bother? No, really, why??? lprent is a hypocritcal moron, a talentless hack who rates his web skills where others can clearly see he has none. He presides over a single view site that purports to value reasoned and reasonable debate, where none such exists – and to top it all, he tolerates abuse and threats IF its ‘on message’.
lprent is poison, a more twisted train wreck of a site and a person I cannot imagine. You really should just leave them to it – you will change nothing there. Ever.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 9:11 am
I am not rich, nor well educated.
I am busting my arse trying to do the right thing and improve myself through being wise with my money.
Firstly, I’m not very employable, except that I’m fluent in Mandarin (self-taught), which has got me into the current job that I’m in.
Since, I’m not very employable, I’ve done two things. I’ve self-studied business through books written by successful businessmen and I’m applying that knowledge in the setting up of my own business. I’ve already registered a company and it should hopefully launch in two months time. As I get busier and if my income from that business grows, I hope to quit my current job and run that company full time.
2. I’m frugal with my $36,000 per annum salary. To save money, I grow most of my vegetables in my tiny yard. I wear clothes until they are thread bare and I choose not to have a car. I walk to work, which takes 40 minutes each way and bus on rainy days.
3. I save as much as I can towards a house. I’m realistic and know that I won’t be able to buy my first house in Auckland, so if I plan to buy my first house in Dunedin.
I don’t see why the Greens think that I am doing something wrong that deserves to be punished by having my savings eroded. I live a debt free and frugal lifestyle now so that I can get ahead in future. It’s a worthwhile sacrifice. Why print more money when you know it will hurt people like me trying to get ahead? I just don’t get it.
March 4th, 2013 at 9:17 am
I see Judge Phillippa Cunningham is up to her usual standards, rewarding retards that abuse vulnerable members of the community with wet bus tickets, in this case home detention served in a drug rehab centre.
Maybe he made her laugh… I’m not, and I don’t think anyone else who pays this obviously out of touch and over paid judge is either. For goodness sake, this scum criminal is a time bomb – read the Herald article today and decide if the judge should be given the DCM.
Robber’s penalty appals aged victim:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10868985
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 9:18 am
That Penny Bright is spearheading opposition to the partial sale of Mighty River Power should strengthen acceptance of the Government’s plan. If Penny is against it, it’s probably a very sound idea
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 9:24 am
Carlos. good man!
But living in Dundein is going a bit far toward self flagellation! (I had to look up the spelling for that
)
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 9:25 am
It’s notable that Penny also posts identical cut and pastes at The Standard (and who knows where else) and raises little interest there for her campaign. She seems to have a lack of credibility across the political spectrum.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 9:25 am
There’s a stoush brewing between the Real Estate industry and the makers of the TV comedy Agent Anna (and I have to confess that I like Robyn Malcolm in this far more than in Outrageous Fortune). And actor Roy Billing has ripped the real estate wallahs a good one this morning:
http://keepingstock.blogspot.co.nz/2013/03/quote-of-day-4-march-2013.html?m=0
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 9:26 am
Pete,
And Millsy has been like that for years. More than seven years ago he was infamous for constantly saying that people will be dying in A&E if National ever get in and there would be blood on the streets. He’s more than a bit rabid. Best to stay away.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 9:27 am
I will never watch any video with ‘Harlem Shake’ in the title.
#fuckoff
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 9:30 am
Thanks Lucia Maria, interesting. Seems like Millsy and Redbaiter are blood in the street brothers from way back.
And Millsy is not alone as a union supporter with deliberately abrasive views. Whale has posted this from Actors Equity vice-president Todd Rippon:
I don’t accept this system of trying to destroy the han that feeds you, and I think most in this country would also be concerend about this combative attitude.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 9:33 am
KS, I dont have an opinion on the show, but I cant stand the arse that is R Malcolm. But I think the comment that “”Ms O’Sullivan begs to differ and would have us all believe that real estate agents are near sainthood in their business practices, as I am sure all commission sales people are.” is way off the mark.
Her response was that it isnt real life. Seems fair to me.
Possible conflict of interest disclosure. I knew Ms O’Sullivan many years ago. Bloody good at what she did back then, and a very cool lady to boot.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 9:37 am
Penny – You should have not the slightest surprize that the Government is now moving to make Mighty River Power shares available on the Australian share market as well as NZX. This of course to try to ensure the highest price possible, one factor being that people here in New Zealand are attempting to lower that price through ‘Switch Off Mercury Energy’
While you claim to be “anti corruption” your actions in fact fall into the area of treason – attempting to lower the value of national assets.
On the plus side, most of your actions appear totally ineffectual. Like your election results.
On the other hand some of your actions are totally counterproductive – like your having cleared John Banks of any electoral wrongdoing – by the top five inquiring bodies in the country in their positive responses [for Banks] in response to your negative claims – when it is apparent he [in asking for donations to be split] is very likely morally wrong, and everyone – from the Prime Minister up – knows it.
Your influence, if any, is as effective as the anti-smacking bill, where defective parents instead of abusing children themselves, now get their exempt brothers and sisters to do it, achieving the same result as before but compounding the damage.
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But then someone who responds to the comment – “Pay your rates thieving bludging bloody mad woman” with - “‘thedavincimode’ – you have NO idea how much you have made my day
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indicates Penny Bright’s real motivation.
Do not fed the watchdog.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 9:45 am
Quite outstanding.
Nice of them to admit its got nothing to do with the workers its just about wrecking New Zealand.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 9:49 am
I think DPF should bring in a system that anyone who gets (say) 25 thumbs down for a comment gets a week off.
Penny would only get one comment every 8 days
Oh and anyone who gets 25 thumbs up gets chocolate fish in the mail !
Vote:(Terms and Conditions apply, limit one per blogger per week)
March 4th, 2013 at 9:52 am
“A teenager on bail when he robbed an 81-year-old woman, breaking her hip and wrist and disabling her for life, has been sentenced to home detention.
”
I guess they must be handing out judge appointments in weetbix packets these days.
The judge needs to be sacked. Unbelievable.
March 4th, 2013 at 9:53 am
You are right PG, but tell me how she gets away with not paying
Vote:for her services for 4 or 5 years ?
Other people would be tossed out or have their services cut off !!
March 4th, 2013 at 9:57 am
Pete,
Um, no. Millsy pre-dates Redbaiter by a number of years and is his own category.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 9:59 am
And Stuff does it again.
“http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8377186/Teens-critically-injured-in-police-chase”
Why oh why do they insist on these headlines? Surely “Teen Girl car thieving scumbags injure selves while fleeing police” would grab the attention just as well.
IT IS NOT THE FAULT OF THE POLICE!
or am I becoming sensitised to this crap?
March 4th, 2013 at 10:01 am
Way to go Penny!
Drive down the value of MRP right before the sale!
Why do you hate New Zealand Ratepayers/Taxpayers so much?
After all they have done for you – paying for the water coming thru your taps, subsidising all of your failed political campaigns and attention-seeking!
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 10:09 am
@ Colville
Thanks, mate. I’ve lived in Dunedin for three years and Invercargill before that for five years. I think they’re both great little cities.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 10:22 am
Carlos, well done. With determination like that I’m sure your business will succeed. Keep us updated!
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 10:36 am
P.G., you seem to be asking for it when you mingle with scum like the girly lprent.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 10:37 am
david (2,268) Says:
March 4th, 2013 at 9:59 am
I hope they (the teens) get billed for the costs of emergency services.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 10:38 am
@krazykiwi
Thank you for the encouragement.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 10:41 am
Good on you Carlos..Well done in being so committed and organized..also terrific on learning Mandarin. I wish you all the best.
Vote:Are you familiar with the frugal living websites? The New Zealand one ”Living on the smell of an oily rag” is very useful and relevant.
March 4th, 2013 at 10:51 am
PENNY………Stop bludging…Pay your rates!!
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 10:56 am
Dime just did a quick scroll through.
The issue of the day is some dude saying bad things at the standard? oh no.
PG – wouldyou like me to churn out some disgraceful hate speech here? would save you some clicks.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 10:58 am
Carlos – good stuff dude.
Dimes has a tip. A few years ago i was toying with the idea of doing some post grad study. then i thought – why dont i just get the reading lists from each course and read the book
so thats pretty much what i do.
there are some good lectures/ courses online too. youtube…
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 11:02 am
Greece is not longer a developed country, now classified as “an emerging market”.
Counties where successive governments bribe voters with their own money are on the same tragectory. Being a cute, can-do nation in a sleepy corner of the Pacific makes no difference.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 11:04 am
“P.G., you seem to be asking for it when you mingle with scum like the girly lprent.”
I’m well aware of that. He made a volcano out of a molehill with his Daily Blog attempt and ended up with ash on his face. Even a co-author contradicted his bluster.
I have expected for some time that he may try to attack and discredit and character assasinate. I just don’t know how much he will lower himself into the mud slinging.
But I think he should be taken to task. His “Standard” is a symptom of wider Labour problems – repetitive foot shooting self discrediting.
If we are to have a better opposition, and a credible next Government, and a credible forum for the left in the blogosphere, then someone needs to be confronting the destructiveness of the Mallards and Prentices in order to address the self defeating toxicity.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 11:23 am
The committee must not yet be aware of Prosser’s conversion.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 11:27 am
And the Chicken Little of the NZ Parliament is at it again…
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/8378259/NZ-unprepared-for-deep-water-oil-spill-Greens
Everyday the sky doesn’t fall, Gareth’s credibility erodes a little more.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 11:42 am
bhudson – but there is a risk and we simply aren’t sufficiently prepared.
If an undersea earthquake in the Southern Ocean breaks open an oil reservoir an ecological catastrophe could come right up the east coast of New Zealand via the Canterbury Current.
To prepare for this risk we should be considering moving the islands to a less earthquake prone region.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 12:11 pm
Pete George (16,499) Says:
March 4th, 2013 at 11:42 am
Nice, made me smile.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 12:18 pm
PG
That’s just silly. The Greens would simply ban earthquakes and that would be the end of the matter.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 12:18 pm
Azeraph – don’t know if you noticed, I picked up on your post on Thusrday night and posted on climate change on Friday morning, not many bites but a few comments proved the point.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 12:23 pm
“An oil spill the size of Deepwater Horizon is likely to occur again and New Zealand is not ready to respond if it happens here, the Greens say. ”
Water quality in the Gulf quickly returned to pre spill levels. Check for yourselves.
None of the dire predictions made by greenies, and those chasing the dollars, came true. There are organisms in the ocean which devour oil, assisted by the currents. Often “clean up” attempts do more harm than good. This is well known, but attempts are made for the PR. People want them to “do something”. The Rena fuss is a good example.
It is worth remembering crude oil is a natural organic compound and nature knows how to deal with it.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 12:29 pm
Penny Bright really doesn’t live up to her name does she? I mean how much of a moron do you have to be to deliberate try to devalue National Assets? So not only do we miss out on the best return for the 49% but the 51% we own will be worth less and instead of being an asset it will be a liability! If they have no customers it will go out of business! WTF planet does this crazy nut job live on?
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 12:29 pm
@ Dime @ Joana
Thank you.
Yes, I have also found lots of great free resources online as well as asking the few business contacts I know for advice as well.
Cheers.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 12:33 pm
A timely “time-bomb” warning to the Government:
I’ve often seen critics of the left claiming they can have an ideological arrogance and think that the certainty that they are right justifies achieving by any means possible.
It’s fair to aim the same criticism at National in these examples. They should heed this warning.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 12:47 pm
Said with tongue-in-cheek, while my memories of your reverence towards “the precautionary principle” are still front-of-mind.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 12:56 pm
This would be same UN that elects mass murderers Sudan and Syria to top human rights committees?
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 12:59 pm
The face of a beast and NZ judiciary: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10868985
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 1:07 pm
Looks like some of the press in the U.S are beginning to wake up.
It started when Bob Woodward (half of the famous Woodward and Bernstein journalists who helped take down Nixon) wrote a column calling out Obama’s lies about the sequester and showing that it was Obama’s idea to begin with. Woodward got an email from the Whitehouse threatening “you’ll regret doing that” and he reported that too. This former hero of the Left has now been attacked by just about all his liberal peers now for reporting honestly about their messiah, Obama.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/02/journalist-bob-woodward-clashes-with-white-house-over-sequester-report/
Turns out the “senior person” was White House Economic Council Gene Sperling.
Now other journalists have come forward saying they’ve been targeted with veiled threats, too, such as Ron Fournier –
http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/why-bob-woodward-s-fight-with-the-white-house-matters-to-you-20130228
And this young female reporter, who got called a “b*tch, a c*nt, and an asshole”
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/beat_the_press_96lFrUNync5zuBZTiZ6aUL
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 1:23 pm
No. This UN.
Robert Mugabe asked to be UN ‘leader for tourism’
With a line-up that includes Drew Barrymore, David Beckham, Orlando Bloom, and Ricky Martin, the UN’s choice of ambassadors has been known to cause raised eyebrows or the odd smirk.
Seldom, however, has there been such anger, or questioning of the organisation’s credibility, as that greeting the appointment of a new international envoy for tourism: Robert Mugabe.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/29/robert-mugabe-un-international-envoy-tourism
A 13-year-old girl, “Elizabeth” described to the BBC how 10 UN peacekeepers gang-raped her in a field near her Ivory Coast home.
‘Elizabeth’ tells the BBC about her abuse
“They grabbed me and threw me to the ground and they forced themselves on me… I tried to escape but there were 10 of them and I could do nothing,” she said.
“I was terrified. Then they just left me there bleeding.”
http://rochester.indymedia.org/node/4281
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 1:50 pm
Can I just take a moment to observe that not even one you know what has taken the trouble to acknowledge the commendable retraint shown by the non you know whats in not mentioning today’s revelations regarding you know what by a senior UK you know what in the you know what.
That those you know whats who have been so prominent in demonising you know what between consenting adults of the same you know what, and who rise so quickly to the bait in alleging you know what bashing in the face of what has now descended into an avalanche of you know whating and you know whating-ups over this you know whating, now remain so conspicously absent today in the face of this latest revelation of homo you know whating, speaks volumes for those of you know whats because they have once more elected to hide plotting their next counter offensive rather than front-footing the issue and taking on the chin (so to speak).
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 1:55 pm
davinci, are you on the turps, pissed and sozzled this early?
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 1:59 pm
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10868425
Peter Done. Take your possum toupee and go.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 1:59 pm
No Manolo. That’s Thursday or Friday hopefully.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 2:04 pm
The whorish Dunne’s greed is boundless.
Vote:Damaging business from an ineffective Labour lite government that claims to be business-friendly. Actions speak louder than words.
March 4th, 2013 at 2:10 pm
The laughable “logic” of why the Stone Agers want their share: http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/8378803/Why-Maori-seek-share-of-4G-spectrum
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 2:12 pm
Whoops. Retraction. The you what business has popped up on another thread, meaning that the earth hasn’t wobbled off its axis.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 2:58 pm
Sharia Law again.
A 14 year old girl is raped, charged with adultery and sentenced to 100 lashes, drops after 70 lashes and eventually dies.
The man who raped her is sentenced to 201 lashes but is let off after only a few.
Society of women haters.
At least her father has spoken out and police are supposedly investigating (although the family is under protection in case they are killed)
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/29/bangladesh.lashing.death/index.html
Indeed.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 2:59 pm
I know that apart from the live sport Sky is a dog , as are all subscription services- is that why News Corp are bailing?
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 3:10 pm
I gave Sky up last month. I figure I am the straw that broke the camels back
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
Carlos#
“…..3. I save as much as I can towards a house. I’m realistic and know that I won’t be able to buy my first house in Auckland, so if I plan to buy my first house in Dunedin….”
Make sure that it is in North Dunedin.
Pete lives in South Duneden.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 4:11 pm
Do you really have ‘assets’ Penny ?
You still haven’t shown us ‘your assets’ on a web cam like I asked!
And why wouldn’t you not want to sell ‘your assets’ – you don’t have a job – and your a MARXIST!
C’mon….Go and get your hands and knees dirty and show us what ‘working’ is really about – ‘Marxist Style’
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 4:12 pm
It is disgusting the way people are treated there, especially women. However we cant talk. We have a society of man haters. Innocent men are imprisoned for rapes that never occured. They are thrown out of there homes and lose everything with the full support of our man hating legal system. A womens word is always taken over that of a man.
Our misandry has become so normalised that we no longer see it. Just as those you speak out against can not see it in their society. We are every bit as bad as they are.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 4:17 pm
How many of you missed this bit?
“Mahbub Khan’s wife heard Hena’s muffled screams and when she found Hena with her husband, she dragged the teenage girl back to her hut, beat her and trampled her on the floor.”
She died from those injuries, given by another women.
You see women are not “victims” of Islam, they are part of it. Most wimpish Western men can not get their heads around that fact because they have been brain washed into thinking women are victims. They are not.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 4:45 pm
Yeh, I saw that, but strangely she took all her anger out on the little girl who was being raped, and not her husband at all.
I guess it would have been impossible to actually blame him or to speak against him.
So she took her anger out on an innocent.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 5:26 pm
pete gorgeous posts that Prossers Muslim comments reach UN……..yawn
I’m more concerned that the UN is into this utter bullshit. How much of our money goes into insulting ourselves?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/south-pacific/8374370/Dictators-man-is-UN-pick-to-oversee-NZ-rule
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 5:44 pm
Oh look Obama ,a very unAmerican President.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2287565/Is-Barack-Obamas-brother-wife-beater-Presidents-sibling-Roy-Abongo-Malik-Obama-accused-attacking-TWELVE-wives-seducing-schoolgirl-Now-hes-using-White-House-links-launch-bid-power.html
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 6:14 pm
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8375951/Census-taking-stock-of-NZs-changing-society
Atheism is tipped to continue its rise in this year’s census results, while those identifying as Christian will fall below 50 per cent.
In the 2006 census, just over two million people, or 55.6 per cent of those answering the religious affiliation question, identified with a Christian religion. In the 2001 census, the figure was 60.6 per cent.
Those ticking “no religion” rose from 29 per cent in 2001 to 34.7 per cent.
Victoria University religious studies teaching fellow Will Hoverd said he expected the “nones” to rise to about 40 per cent, and predicted a drop to between 45 per cent and 50 per cent identifying as Christian.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 6:31 pm
Technically, belief in non-existent global warming is a religion.
Speaking of which, I don’t suppose anyone knowledgable about the subject will be at all surprised at Michael Mann’s latest complete misrepresentation of the data:
http://climateaudit.org/2013/03/02/mikes-agu-trick/
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 6:52 pm
Steve McIntyre the oil company geologist
just who I would expect to be in denial
funny then watwat that all scientific bodies endorse climate change and you dont
Vote:I guess that science is not your cup of tea then. It would be more along the lines of belief persuaded by un scientific rubbish from nutjob denial sites Ie cult stuff for thickos.
……eh……
March 4th, 2013 at 6:52 pm
kowtow tips Islam to increase in this year’s census results.
Good or bad ?
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 6:53 pm
Daily Mail UK –
Benedict has resigned to ensure that the whole ‘Filth’ from many countries of the world right up to the Vatican centre is cleansed. He has given up his job to kick out all the office-holders and start again.
While the college of cardinals appears to have been shocked by the resignation, Benedict’s drastic decision was both predicted and strongly recommended two years ago by an eminent American psychologist and former priest.
In 2011, Dr Richard Sipe, a greatly respected world expert on the priestly abuse scandal, declared that only the Pope’s resignation would resolve the paedophile priest crisis. Sipe charged that ‘along with other bishops, Benedict was complicit earlier in tolerating and covering up the crimes of the priests’.
…
Benedict’s stunning self-sacrifice constitutes, in my view, the greatest gamble in the papacy’s 2,000-year history. If it works, the Church will begin to restore its besmirched reputation. If it fails, we Catholics are headed for calamitous conflict and fragmentation.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2287074/Pope-resigns-2013-Gay-sex-rings-The-Filth-corrupting-Vatican–Pope-REALLY-quit.html#ixzz2MXkhJxHW
More Vatican vacancies coming?
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 7:13 pm
Any increase in the number of Islam followers can only be bad for NZ.
Vote:The “religion of peace” is a vile and violent cult that belongs to the darkest ages of history. It’s not needed here.
March 4th, 2013 at 7:24 pm
If you are going to try to slander someone Griff make sure your bosses at Scam Head Office give the right information. Steve McIntyre mining career has been to the gold exploration business.
Vote:If your so called scientists knew something about statistics he probably would not even have a website. But Dr Mann is just such easy meat to pull apart !!!!!
March 4th, 2013 at 7:25 pm
Griff you really need to update your reading. Even IPCC scientists are saying the warming stopped ages ago and the whole thing is overstated.
I mean what else could they say, given the overwhelming evidence against AGW and stubborn refusal of the climate to actually change.
Even your own warmist leaders are abandoning you Griff and the only ones crying doom now are the cranks.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 7:25 pm
A 14 year old girl is raped, charged with adultery and sentenced to 100 lashes, drops after 70 lashes and eventually dies.
Q1: If it’s Islam that “forces” people to do this then how come it doesn’t happen here amongst Muslims, or in most other Islamic countries?
Q2: Did anything like this used to happen in centuries past in countries without strong Islamic traditions like say various countries in Africa or Asia?
Q3: Is it at all possible that it’s not Islam, but the culture of the country where it happens, which is mainly responsible for behaviour like this?
Q4: Is Islam being used a whipping boy to get all the useful idiots all rarked up so that when say, a mid-West US city gets hit with a dirty nuke and they find a half-burnt Iranian passport in the irradiated rubble, the politicians won’t even need to convince said useful idiots that a war on Islam would be a jolly good thing, and that rather, said useful idiots will be clamouring for it?
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
I don’t have much time for John Campbell as a journalist but I have to say his piece on Solid Energy tonight was good. It looks like Elder has alot to answer for.
I had to laugh at the address of the Head Office –15 Show Place !!
I wonder how the Greens will feel about their big push for renewable energy businesses when they look at the Solid Energy investment in the biodiesel business .
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
“Atheism is tipped to continue its rise in this year’s census results, while those identifying as Christian will fall below 50 per cent.
In the 2006 census, just over two million people, or 55.6 per cent of those answering the religious affiliation question, identified with a Christian religion. In the 2001 census, the figure was 60.6 per cent.
Those ticking “no religion” rose from 29 per cent in 2001 to 34.7 per cent.”
Just because you don’t follow an organised religion doesn’t mean you are an Atheist.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 7:41 pm
Kea you are full of shit
link to the the leader of the ipcc saying no warming.
It does not exist except among the nutbar denail sites.
The cult of climate denail
Classic cult symptoms include hanging on the words of nutbars like McIntyre and Watts. Going against science on the word of a total dropout ex weather forecaster. Unfounded belief in total rubbish like you post is a sure sigh of fruit loop nutdom
Face it kea you are a fruit loop.
Hows the global conspiwhacky going got more detail yet?
Here is your hero on fruit loop denail he looks like a intelligent gent to me
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Environment/Pix/columnists/2009/12/10/1260453997366/The-3rd-Viscount-Monckton-001.jpg
fruitloops
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 7:46 pm
Come on Griff…..this is what really happens.
Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/80wz7nsbmts8wyq/Climate%205.jpg?m
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 7:51 pm
“Just because you don’t follow an organised religion doesn’t mean you are an Atheist.”
Hey Longknifes – if you had actually read the rest of the article it goes on to say:
“The research suggests half of those ticking “no religion” are not atheist, and three-quarters of them believe in a god or spiritual life force. “What we’re finding is a demographic shift away from organised religion.”
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8375951/Census-taking-stock-of-NZs-changing-society
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 7:53 pm
It will take more than a large pile of cash to pay for this
Australia can expect more record heat over the next decade as a result of a “climate on steroids”, the climate commission warns.
Speaking at the release of a new report by the commission, climate scientist Will Steffen says Australians are likely to experience even hotter temperatures over the next 10 years.
“There is little doubt that these events will continue to become worse, the hottest temperature will become hotter, of longer duration and more frequent,” said Professor Steffen, who authored the report.
“This is virtually certain because of the extra heat that is in the atmosphere … We have a climate on steroids.”
The report “Angry Summer” argues the extreme weather of 2012/13 was climate change in action and more unusual events are on the way.
It notes that last summer 123 records were broken throughout Australia in 90 days, and that it was the nation’s hottest summer, capped by the longest and most extreme heatwave on record.
Prof Steffen said the findings of the new report into last summer’s extreme weather events showed climate change was real.
“I think what this is telling us is that climate change is not some hypothetical thing that will occur in the future, the climate has actually changed,” he told reporters on Monday.
While it was difficult to predict whether next summer would see more records broken, he said over the next two decades there would be some “really frightening” temperatures in store for the country.
Vote:- See more at: http://www.odt.co.nz/news/world/248098/aussie-climate-steroids#sthash.GErdP0kF.dpuf
March 4th, 2013 at 7:54 pm
The doctor, after an examination, sighed and said, ‘I’ve got some bad news. You have cancer, and you’d best put your affairs in order.’
The woman was shocked, but managed to compose herself and walk into the waiting room where her daughter had been waiting.
‘Well, daughter, we women celebrate when things are good, and we celebrate when things don’t go so well. In this case, things aren’t well. I have cancer. So, let’s head to the club and have a martini.’
After 3 or 4 martinis, the two were feeling a little less somber. There were some laughs and more martinis. They were eventually approached by some of the woman’s old friends, who were curious as to what the two were celebrating.
The woman told her friends they were drinking to her impending end, ‘I’ve been diagnosed with AIDS.’ The friends were aghast, gave the woman their condolences and beat a hasty retreat.
After the friends left, the woman’s daughter leaned over and whispered, ‘Momma, I thought you said you were dying of cancer, and you just told your friends you were dying of AIDS! Why did you do that??’
Vote:‘Because I don’t want any of those bitches sleeping with your father after I’m gone.’.
March 4th, 2013 at 7:56 pm
A married couple is travelling by car from Victoria to Prince George . Being seniors, after almost eleven hours on the road, they were too tired to continue and decided to take a room. But, they only planned to sleep for four hours and then get back on the road. When they checked out four hours later, the desk clerk handed them a bill for $350.00. The man explodes and demands to know why the charge is so high.
Vote:He told the clerk although it’s a nice hotel; the rooms certainly aren’t worth $350.00 for four hours. Then the clerk tells him that $350.00 is the ‘standard rate’. He insisted on speaking to the Manager. The Manager appears, listens to him, and then explains that the hotel has an Olympic-sized pool and a huge conference centre that were available for us to use.
“But we didn’t use them,” the husband said. “Well, they are here, and you could have,” explained the Manager. The Manager went on to explain that the couple could also have taken in one of the shows for which the hotel is famous.
“We have the best entertainers from New York , Hollywood , and Las Vegas perform here,” the Manager says.
“But we didn’t go to any of those shows,” the husband said. “Well, we have them, and you could have,” the Manager replied.
No matter what amenity the Manager mentioned, the husband replied, “But we didn’t use it!” The Manager is unmoved, and eventually the husband gave up and agreed topay.
As he didn’t have the check book, he asked his wife to write the check. She did and gave it to the Manager. The Manager is surprised when he looks at the check.
“But ma’am, this is made out for only $50.00.” “That’s correct. I charged you $300.00 for sleeping with me,” she replied. “But I didn’t!” exclaims the Manager. “Well, too bad, I was here, and you could have.” Don’t mess with senior citizens….. They didn’t get there by being stupid.
March 4th, 2013 at 8:00 pm
Ralph and Edna were both patients in a mental hospital. One day while they were walking past the hospital swimming pool Ralph suddenly jumped into the deep end.
He sank to the bottom of the pool and stayed there.
Edna promptly jumped in to save him. She swam to the bottom and pulled him out.
When the Head Nurse Director became aware of Edna’s heroic act she immediately ordered her to be discharged from the hospital, as she now considered her to be mentally stable.
When she went to tell Edna the news she said, “Edna, I have good news and bad news. The good news is you’re being discharged, since you were able to rationally respond to a crisis by jumping in and saving the life of the person you love. I have concluded that your act displays sound mindedness”.
“The bad news is, Ralph hung himself in the bathroom with his bathrobe belt right after you saved him. I am so sorry, but he’s dead.”
Edna replied, “He didn’t hang himself…..I put him there to dry”.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 8:01 pm
Shit Griff your stuttering, calm down
I have provided numerous links, as have many others. You have ignored them and ranted on about your absurd theory that they are all in the pay of BIG OIL. At the same time you have cowardly avoided asking simple questions about who funds the warmists.
One last time Griff, oil companies make money from oil. Warmists make money from AGW threats and have no other source of income. Simple as that. The first the world needs and cant get enough of, the other the world does not need or want.
Keep it up. Your doing way more than me to discredit your cult.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 8:04 pm
A hotter than usual summer in Australia is said to be climate change.
Vote:A colder than usual winter in Germany is said to be weather.
March 4th, 2013 at 8:09 pm
Griff:
Vote:“To now claim that the
churchAGW industry has any morals is far from the truth. It is corrupt beyond belief and should be disbanded and the billions of dollars it has stolen under false pretense returned to society at large.”http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/03/not_being_rushed_through.html#comment-1106416
March 4th, 2013 at 8:18 pm
Just for Griff ( link to the the leader of the ipcc saying no warming.)
— http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nothing-off-limits-in-climate-debate/story-e6frg6n6-1226583112134
From the top newspaper in Australia. Who is the fruit loop denier now ???
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 8:20 pm
Actually I dont give a fuck about discrediting my argument its all about making fun of conspirowhacky nut bars like you
fruit loops
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/11/28/meet-the-climate-denial-machine/191545
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/7538934/Oil-conglomerate-secretly-funds-climate-change-deniers.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/feb/14/funding-climate-change-denial-thinktanks-network
Despite the overwhelming consensus among climate experts that human activity is contributing to rising global temperatures, 66 percent of Americans incorrectly believe there is “a lot of disagreement among scientists about whether or not global warming is happening.” The conservative media has fueled this confusion by distorting scientific research, hyping faux-scandals, and giving voice to groups funded by industries that have a financial interest in blocking action on climate change. Meanwhile, mainstream media outlets have shied away from the “controversy” over climate change and have failed to press U.S. policymakers on how they will address this global threat. When climate change is discussed, mainstream outlets sometimes strive for a false balance that elevates marginal voices and enables them to sow doubt about the science even in the face of mounting evidence.
Dear dear squawk no matter how many times you try to say my views are marginal the science still comes back its real its happening and we are the cause.
Vote:The only cult involved is the anti science cult of denial.
March 4th, 2013 at 8:38 pm
THE UN’s climate change chief, Rajendra Pachauri, has acknowledged a 17-year pause in global temperature rises, confirmed recently by Britain’s Met Office
But Griff denies the “pause”. KB is littered with his denials.
Don’t try and play the science card Griffy, the opposition is way better informed than you are.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 8:45 pm
Too funny griff, a Guardian article repeating allegations of $US120 million ( over 10 years), “…according to the Greenpeace analysis.”
$US120 million = €93 million, over 10 years, average €9.3 million per year.
Greenpeace: Budget €236.9 million (2011)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenpeace
So Greenpeace has about 25 times the budget of all of those think tanks combined.
Yep, we know why Greenpeace is propagating the alarm don’t we?
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 8:48 pm
Hay I got it figured Griff, I see the light !
In spite of co2 levels increasing and the warmists telling us that causes an increase in temperatures, BIG OIL, has paid the climate to NOT CHANGE for two decades, just to discredit the IPCC.
I mean what else would a reasonable person think, given the increase in co2 over that time.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 8:51 pm
One of the dumbest census protests: Annoy Prosser and vote Muslim!
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 8:51 pm
You got it Kea, the climate is on the take from Big Oil. Those alarmists were right, it’s a conspirawhacky!
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 8:54 pm
Pete, every time you link to one of those blogs a United Future voter switches their vote.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 8:54 pm
Actually ross wingnut that is the same link you have posted five times. it does not quote anyone and has no biases in fact. as I said link to the statement not some opinion piece in a newspaper .
Here is a game for you nutjobs:lol:
Vote:wing nut bingo
http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/2010/03/31/wingnut-bingo/
March 4th, 2013 at 9:03 pm
Griff (4,375) Says:
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 8:54 pm
March 4th, 2013 at 9:03 pm
Nice troll Griff.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 9:17 pm
[sigh] It’s not easy being green these days, especially if you’re a die-hard doomsayer of the global warming persuasion (that’s you gwiffucknuckle). Arctic ice has made a comeback, advancing so rapidly that the previous decade saw less ice at this time of the year than exists today. And previously balmy Arctic temperatures just nose-dived, according to the Danish Meteorological Institute, which has tracked Arctic temperatures since 1958.
Alarmists shudder when looking south, too, at the stats from Antarctica. There the sea ice extent started growing early this year, and the ice cover remains stubbornly above average. All told, the global sea ice — including both polar caps — now exceeds the average recorded since 1979, when satellites began their measurements.
Disasters are another disaster for the doomsayers, as documented in an October article by University of Colorado-Boulder Prof. Robert Pielke Jr., one of the world’s foremost experts in disasters and climate change. “Flooding has not increased over the past century, nor have landfalling hurricanes,” he reported. “Remarkably, the U.S. is currently experiencing the longest-ever recorded period with no strikes of a Category 3 or stronger hurricane.”
Pielke went on to note that the U.S. has seen a decline in drought over the past century, and that “Over the past six decades, tornado damage has declined after accounting for development that has put more property into harm’s way.” Similar conclusions apply to typhoons in China, bushfires in Australia, and windstorms in Europe. High-profile weather events have always and will always be with us; they just haven’t been as fateful of late. Moreover, the United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change earlier last year agreed that long-term climate change can’t be blamed for damage from extreme events.
The Holy Grail of proof to most doomsayers, of course, is the temperature, which global warming models insisted would rise in lock-step with increases in carbon dioxide. When the temperatures started to plateau in the late 1990s, doomsayers scoffed at the skeptics who noted that the models failed, taking comfort from the global warming leadership who explained every which way that the skeptics were torturing the statistics to falsely show warming had stopped. Now the leadership itself — the U.K.’s Met Office, NASA’s Jim Hansen, and the IPCC’s Rajendra Pachauri — all admit to temperatures having reached a standstill for the better part of two decades.
The lowly global warming believer (that’s you again gwiffucknuckle) is left with little but the promises from their leaders that, sooner or later, those temperatures will rise again.
http://opinion.financialpost.com/2013/02/28/lawrence-solomon-not-easy-being-green/
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 9:19 pm
Actually I always wait for the nutters to post first
Vote:its so easy to set them off almost as easy as winding the god squad
I run a news feed on climate science and global warming as well as subscribing to the SS comments section so have read the rubbish and refuting of it well before the nutbars have
Posts from nutbars are so full of holes its amazing their little brains dont explode with the contradictions.
Still fuckwits and the sheepie are sooooo stupid. do you know that the less educated the more likely you are to believe the rubbish they post
http://americansecurityproject.org/featured-items/2012/climate-security-report/
One of the most significant challenges to the global security system in the 21st Century will be a changing climate; the effects of these changes are already being felt all over the world. Climate change poses a clear and present danger to the United States through its effects on our global allies as well as its direct effects on our agriculture, infrastructure, economy and public health.
March 4th, 2013 at 9:21 pm
so you’ve read this already griff?
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2013/02/green-weenie-of-the-week-rajendra-pachauri.php
what about this?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/02/24/yes-we-should-defund-the-u-n-s-intergovernmental-panel-on-climate-change/
And how’s the lovely Gergis doing these days? Has she got her paper accepted back into the journal? What about Lewandowsky and the paper he had rejected?
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 9:24 pm
Vote:
March 4th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
Griff…..do like mango salsa?
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 9:29 pm
Actually axenuckle when you start using my language it shows me that I really get up your nose.
nutbars tm fruitloops tm and axenuckle tm
Twenty years how times fly in the nutterverse only last month it was fifteen.
Vote:pity that the warmest year on record was 2010 followed by 2005
In fact the last ten years have been the warmest on record followed by the ten before etc
As to not paying attention to rubbish why would any sane man read rubbish that is obviously crap and think that it is science.
Only in the world of fruitloop denial does a opinion piece count as science
13950 papers support the scientific consensus on climate change twenty four dont
March 4th, 2013 at 9:32 pm
Vote:
March 4th, 2013 at 9:37 pm
Nothing obsessive there folks & nothing extreme.
And the cheeky bugger calls those of us who accept the evidence “nutters” !
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 9:46 pm
Forget “chemtrails” check this crazy shit out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNBQd_Hpdio
Kinda sad some folks believe this
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 9:49 pm
Forbes the Australian and the daily mail same old same old. As I said the story is in the echo chamber yet has no reality behind it just rewrites of the original opinion piece from the Australian with no proof for the alleged quote.
http://desmogblog.com/2012/11/15/why-climate-deniers-have-no-credibility-science-one-pie-chart
I searched the Web of Science for peer-reviewed scientific articles published between 1 January 1991 and 9 November 2012 that have the keyword phrases “global warming” or “global climate change.” The search produced 13,950 articles. See methodology.
By my definition, 24 of the 13,950 articles, 0.17% or 1 in 581, clearly reject global warming or endorse a cause other than CO2 emissions for observed warming. The list of articles that reject global warming is here. The 24 articles have been cited a total of 113 times over the nearly 21-year period, for an average of close to 5 citations each. That compares to an average of about 19 citations for articles answering to “global warming,” for example. Four of the rejecting articles have never been cited; four have citations in the double-digits. The most-cited has 17.
This work follows that of Oreskes (Science, 2005) who searched for articles published between 1993 and 2003 with the keyword phrase “global climate change.” She found 928, read the abstracts of each and classified them. None rejected human-caused global warming. Using her criteria and time-span, I get the same result. Deniers attacked Oreskes and her findings, but they have held up.
Kea no matter how much you squawk the science still goes against your nutbar views.
Vote:The science says global warming nutbars says no
March 4th, 2013 at 9:49 pm
I’d miss him if he ever left though Kea, he’s the grifft that keeps on giving. Our very own Karl Pilkington
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 9:55 pm
Griff, what happens to the funding if they admit AGW is false ?
Have you researched the market for unemployed and discredited weather men recently ?
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 10:02 pm
The AGW industry was started (and generously funded) by Margaret Thatcher, to stick it to the unionist coal miners and promote Nuclear energy as a safer option. She set them up to “prove” coal and oil were unsafe.
The IPCC are paid hacks and activists. They are not considered proper scientists by informed people.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 10:11 pm
Nah GRIEF as I have explained before, we all take great pleasure at laughing at your prepostorous dedication to the ALARMISM hoax.
You are the team bitch when it comes to the global warming scam debate so that is why you can only froth at the mouth with your inane and often illiterate claims.
BTW are you up to date with the credibility of your mates at Skeptical Science? Just like you, John Cook and his psych sidekick Dr. Stephan Levandowsky are big on conspiracy theory studies as a tool to smear skeptics, and are quite certain that climate skeptics are mentally aberrant, even though they never give skeptics a chance to vote in their horridly self serving and skewed surveys.
And the charming Glenn Tamblyn (Skeptical Science author/moderator) secretly conversing with his SkS pals on their off limits forum (which either got hacked or was left open by their own incompetence) said “we need a conspiracy to save humanity”. The Viet Cong comparison is a nice touch too. There’s talk of convening a “war council” too.
And this isn’t about science or personal careers and reputations any more. This is a fight for survival. Our civilisations survival. .. We need our own anonymous (or not so anonymous) donors, our own think tanks…. Our Monckton’s … Our assassins.
Anyone got Bill Gates’ private number, Warren Buffett, Richard Branson? Our ‘side’ has got to get professional, ASAP. We don’t need to blog. We need to network. Every single blog, organisation, movement is like a platoon in an army. ..This has a lot of similarities to the Vietnam War….And the skeptics are the Viet Cong… Not fighting like ‘Gentlemen’ at all. And the mainstream guys like Gleick don’t know how to deal with this. Queensberry Rules rather than biting and gouging.
..So, either Mother Nature deigns to give the world a terrifying wake up call. Or people like us have to build the greatest guerilla force in human history. Now. Because time is up…Someone needs to convene a council of war of the major environmental movements, blogs, institutes etc. In a smoke filled room (OK, an incense filled room) we need a conspiracy to save humanity.
[As quoted by Geoff Chambers in this Bishop Hill thread. http://www.bishop-hill.net/blog/2012/3/26/opengate-josh-158.html?currentPage=2#comments ]
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 10:11 pm
The problem for you is who is going to discredit mainstream science
That you keep calling climate scientists weathermen shows your stupidity. The only weather man I have seen quoted is A Watts and he is already discredited.
Face it cult thinking is the denail nut jobs you worship. The cult of anti science is alive and well with you and your fallow travelers being the cultists.
Hows the no warming going have you made it to thirty years yet?
http://www.skepticalscience.com/trend.php
gee its not in the records so it must be real …..eh……I read it in the newspaper !
Ugly truth and chem trails
rightnow kea and watwat with agenda 21 and commie plots to rule the world.
Whackhead wingnuts all together in conspirowhacky
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 10:21 pm
Oh joy, a trend calculator. What’s this? A 10 year cooling trend in ALL land-ocean indexes….
Where’s the missing heat boy? Fetch…
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 10:21 pm
Griff your the conspiracy nutter. You are obsessive:
“I run a news feed on climate science and global warming as well as subscribing to the SS comments section ”
You rant on about BIG OIL and the fictional “carbon industry” when ever a scientist disagrees with you. You have claimed that these evil forces are conduction an “experiment” on us. Even the IPCC has admitted to the fact there has been no warming for nearly two decades.
Muppet !
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 11:31 pm
fuckin spinners
Vote:NASA scientists say 2012 was the ninth warmest of any year since 1880, continuing a long-term trend of rising global temperatures. With the exception of 1998, the nine warmest years in the 132-year record all have occurred since 2000, with 2010 and 2005 ranking as the hottest years on record.
March 4th, 2013 at 11:57 pm
IPCC does not represent consensus: Cook says that the IPCC guys are leaders and that the reports are too conservative. That’s, of course, nonsense in both cases. First, the IPCC is being elected by the governments – because it’s an “inter-governmental panel” on climate change – e.g. by politicians whose vast majority has no idea about science, and not even about the question who is a good scientist and who is not. They’re clearly choosing scientists according to their willingness and likelihood to produce the predetermined conclusions. Concerning the “conservative IPCC reports”, it’s a preposterous statement because every single problem that has been found about the IPCC report as of today was in the direction that the IPCC was more hysterical than what the science says – it was never in the other way around.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 11:58 pm
Satellites show no warming in the troposphere: He agrees but claims it’s an error, due to “satellite drift”. Well, again, inconvenient observations have to be doubly attacked, questioned, and an error has to be found. It’s a biased treatment. The fact is that the tropical troposphere should show, if the greenhouse model of warming is correct, the fastest warming trend. In reality, it shows one of the slowest trends and it’s very likely that the right interpretation is that this observation by itself rules out the greenhouse model of the recent warming. It’s surely inconvenient for fanatical believers but this emotional fact doesn’t make this argument less convincing from a scientific viewpoint.
Vote:March 4th, 2013 at 11:58 pm
Climate sensitivity is low: The fact is that the direct calculation gives 1.2 °C and all balanced analyses of the Earth’s history, including very old geological data, suggest that this is about right, i.e. the net feedbacks are small, with an unknown sign. All papers or claims going to 3 °C or higher are fabricated and cherry-pick something to “hype” this number that almost certainly can’t reach 3 °C. The promoted positive feedbacks may be viewed as a quantification of the hype, exaggeration, and fraud: 70 percent of the IPCC figure for the climate sensitivity is fabricated because a higher value is favored by the “big picture” of the political process.
Vote:March 5th, 2013 at 12:00 am
Models are unreliable: Cook says that models have made predictions that were successfully compared to observations. Except that this is not enough for the models to be reliable. For them to be reliable, it would have to be the case that the models have produced no predictions that were inconsistent with the observations – because one wrong prediction is enough to falsify a model. Clearly, such falsification has taken place with all of them. In particular, all IPCC-endorsed models predicted a warming since 1998 that didn’t occur. They’re gone. Again, both sides agree that we can’t rely on them. Kevin Trenberth agrees that the disagreement of the models and the data is a travesty. There are hundreds of recent examples showing how deeply flawed the existing IPCC-endorsed models are.
Vote:March 5th, 2013 at 6:02 am
Funny right now if all major scientific bodies the un and governments endorsers the consensus view on global warming you go to nut job denial sites and believe the spin.
Vote:repeatedly trying to convince your self now
what a nutter
March 5th, 2013 at 6:07 am
The resident pot-head will be disappointed by the opposition to this nutter: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/04/obama-to-announce-energy-epa-leaders-ap-source-says/
Vote:March 5th, 2013 at 6:35 am
No science to back it up. Just a hack’s piece to keep gullible fools like Griff happy, very happy: http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/8379157/Climate-change-link-to-Australian-heatwave
Vote:March 5th, 2013 at 9:01 am
Dear dear right often this is Kevin latest work
Vote:seems your source is fucked as usual
http://www2.cgd.ucar.edu/future-warming-high-side
The climate models that most accurately captured these complex moisture processes and associated clouds, which have a major influence on global climate, were also the ones that showed the greatest amounts of warming as society emits more greenhouse gas into the atmosphere