Gilmore to seek mandate in by-election

May 9th, 2013 at 7:00 am by David Farrar

has announced:

National List MP Aaron Gilmore has announced that he will seek a fresh mandate by standing in the Ikaroa-Rawhiti by-election on 29 June.

Mr Gilmore, who is of Ngai Tahu descent, said that the by-election would give him an opportunity to put the recent allegations behind him, and focus on being able to make his contribution to Parliament.

Mr Gilmore will be standing for the You Know Who I Am Party. They plan to contest all 70 seats at the next election. His co-leader is Ms Reese Witherspoon.

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96 Responses to “Gilmore to seek mandate in by-election”

  1. Manolo (13,755 comments) says:

    Crass Gilmore would fit well in the Stone Age Party, under the guidance of the eternal leader Trougher Sharples.

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  2. RRM (9,917 comments) says:

    A fresh mandate for his pointless fuck-nuttery? What..?

    I’m sure the Maori around the East Cape who are used to being served by an electorate MP of the old school (Horomia) will instantly warm to a jumped-up little white kid in a suit who thinks rather highly of himself and is a messy drunk.

    :neutral: No, not really…

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  3. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    Surely Aaron’s co-leader would be John Key. They both have an aversion to telling the truth, and their memory is appalling.

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  4. Harriet (4,969 comments) says:

    I’m voting for Charlie Sheen in this by-election…..

    …..my party vote is going to the Rusty Crowe lead – Real Wankers Party! :cool:

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  5. hamnidaV2 (247 comments) says:

    I think he’ll struggle to win the seat.

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  6. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    Maybe John “I cannot recall taking a helicopter ride to Kim Dotcom’s mansion” Banks could run on the same ticket…

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  7. tvb (4,418 comments) says:

    So he will get about a dozen votes and then what. The National Party has rules about its members contesting seats without Party approval. Hopefully he will get the message when he gets pitiful support.

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  8. tvb (4,418 comments) says:

    OK this is a joke Sorry for the post.

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  9. Floyd60 (92 comments) says:

    Winston grows stronger by the day.

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  10. peterwn (3,271 comments) says:

    His $200 deposit would be better spent at the TAB or Lotto shop – at least he has a chance of winning there.

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  11. Nostalgia-NZ (5,198 comments) says:

    Yes we know exactly who you are Aaron – go suck a kumara bro.

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  12. Elaycee (4,392 comments) says:

    Oh dear…. its sad that some people have reached a conclusion that this is a real deal, rather than a total piss take.

    And scary that they probably have voting rights… 8O

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  13. Redbaiter (8,810 comments) says:

    Sorry, but as one who does not read watch or listen to mainstream media, I remain non-plussed by the Gilmore issue.

    So he got a bit pissed and might have said a few boisterous things. So what?

    For a whole country to twist itself into convulsions over this for so long is I reckon a sign of mass insanity.

    NZers are so easily manipulated by mainstream media it is sick.

    Worst of all are the National Party bloggers who have willingly joined in with the far left mainstream media to pillory this National Party politician. FFS, we already know they’re mostly bumble fisted gape jawed lamers.

    Whale Oil is the most manipulated of all. (but nothing new there, he’s always been a politically confused tool of the left

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  14. Redbaiter (8,810 comments) says:

    Clarification-

    “FFS, we already know they’re mostly bumble fisted gape jawed lamers.”

    National Party politicians that is.

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  15. Harriet (4,969 comments) says:

    “….And scary that they probably have voting rights…”

    My thoughts exactly!

    It ain’t no wonder that politics is all PR today when the so called politicly ‘aware’ even fall for something as silly and clear as this! :cool:

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  16. itstricky (1,830 comments) says:

    Well I never. I am going to have to agree with Redbaiter’s insanity comment. Just shows you how many pile off on their rant before they’ve even read the paragraphs or clicked on the reference. Manolo at the top is classic. Auto pilot. Everytime he sees the word Maori he spouts ‘stoneage’! Belated April Fools buddy!

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  17. toad (3,674 comments) says:

    I thought Gilmore would be standing for the Dickheads and Fucktards Party.

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  18. Redbaiter (8,810 comments) says:

    “the Dickheads and Fucktards Party.”

    Got a clear space on your list have you?

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  19. peterwn (3,271 comments) says:

    Elaycee – It may be that some people (like me) jumped too quickly at the keyboards without reading the whole thing. I apologise to DPF and all Kiwiblog followers for being taken in by this.

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  20. itstricky (1,830 comments) says:

    If I could have given that last one five up votes I would have. Still chuckling ten minutes later.

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  21. Redbaiter (8,810 comments) says:

    “I apologise to DPF and all Kiwiblog followers for being taken in by this.”

    Apology not accepted.

    Twit.

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  22. Paulus (2,626 comments) says:

    April First………………..

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  23. David Garrett (7,271 comments) says:

    Well Bugger me (no, not literally chaps)…I came within a feather’s width of giving Red a tick….and here I was thinking my new pills were working a treat…

    It’s actually a bit concerning that people whose comments are usually pretty sound thought this was serious….and Russell picks it immediately? (But “nonplussed” is one word old chap…you can’t actually be “plussed” about something. Sorry to be pedantic, but I know how fussy you are)

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  24. Lloyd (125 comments) says:

    Manolo cannot resist playing the race card, even for a spoof blog.
    You really are pathetic.
    For god’s sake grow a sense of humour. And a sense of proportion, FFS.

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  25. edd (157 comments) says:

    I think Gilmore should join Colin Craig in the conservative party. This would give Craig a voice in the house today and a good foot hold in the next election, and would give Gilmore some much needed credibility after his falling out with National. He could claim his political views are incompatible with John Keys.

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  26. labrator (1,850 comments) says:

    In memory of Parekura I think people should sit for this by-election, standing is tiring.

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  27. Manolo (13,755 comments) says:

    Are you OK, delicate Lloyd? :D

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  28. Yvette (2,814 comments) says:

    Is this all because May apparently is National Masturbation Month?
    http://www.alternet.org/sex-amp-relationships/welcome-masturbate-thon

    Of course Gilmore can save a mint in not needing a publicy campaign
    Everyone now knows who he is :-)

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  29. RRM (9,917 comments) says:

    David Garrett… yes.. I must have been almost totally asleep when I first read this post. Didn’t register the third paragraph at all…

    “the Dickheads and Fucktards Party.”

    Got a clear space on your list have you?

    That was beautiful Weddy, I actually gave you a thumbs up for once.

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  30. Fox (206 comments) says:

    I think Gilmore should join Colin Craig in the conservative party.

    Yeah right…because nothing enhances the credibility of a Christian Conservative party more than a binge-drinking loudmouth…..

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  31. Colville (2,268 comments) says:

    I think Gilmore should join Colin Craig in the conservative party.

    Yeah right…because nothing enhances the credibility of a Christian Conservative party more than a binge-drinking loudmouth…..

    Yeah but is he a binge drinking loudmouth that goes to Church and hates fags?

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  32. David Garrett (7,271 comments) says:

    I am actually a little disappointed DPF that you have effectively chosen to join the somewhat indecently frenzied hunt of this guy. I am equally disappointed that your doing so seems to be in response to Key now deciding that “Gilmore must go”. You frequently proclaim that you are not a servant of the Nats, but this rather suggests otherwise.

    I have not changed my view that Gilmore is a cock who largely brought this all on himself. But having been in a very similar position myself – the object of a frenzied hunt by a pack of mongrels – I believe he has suffered enough for a drunken night’s actions which he will no doubt regret for the rest of his life. One that has definitely now cost him his political career.

    As I have said earlier, it is impossible to believe that the media mongrels would still be chasing this for all it’s worth if Gilmore were Darren Hughes, or some other leftie luvvie that they all thought was a super chap. This hapless bastard doesn’t need or warrant you joining in.

    [DPF: To the contrary I have refrained massively from criticising Aaron in harsh terms, and have not called for him to go.

    But I happily take the piss out of MPs, and don't plan to stop]

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  33. Dennis Horne (2,403 comments) says:

    There should be a law protecting a chap from being victimised on the orientation of his personality. This is a clear case of cuntism.

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  34. peterwn (3,271 comments) says:

    David Garrett – Aaron could have extinguished the matter Sunday morning with a moderate helping of humble pie. Then everyone involved could have got on with life. But he chose to try and bluster and bs his way out of it until he virtually dug his own grave.

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  35. Linda Reid (415 comments) says:

    As usual, it’s not the original offence that’s the problem, it’s his bumbling efforts to cover it up by being less than honest. The PM obviously feels that he has been lied to. And you can’t apologise your way out of that.

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  36. David Garrett (7,271 comments) says:

    peterwn: I don’t disagree with you. He is largely if not wholly the author of his own misfortune – including, perhaps, in his choice of friends. But enough is enough. His career is over. He will almost certainly throw in the towel in the foreseeable future. As someone said a couple of days ago, what do the media hounds want – his suicide? Sadly I fear that that might be exactly what would make some of them happy. I emphasize I do not know Gilmore, and had no more contact with him than exchanging pleasantries when I was in the House. I do not know his personal circumstances, other than it appears he has children. Enough is enough.

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  37. Dennis Horne (2,403 comments) says:

    Ever watched birds pecking one bird to death? We are victims of our evolution. Gilmore has the option of retreat to a safe house, he is lucky.

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  38. Jack5 (5,137 comments) says:

    Good on you Aaron Gilmore. Standing up and soldiering on after a momentous stuff-up takes courage.
    Standing up to a righteous mob out to tear your future to bits takes even more guts.

    Some of those who would deny you a second chance are enthusiastic supporters of convicts’ rights, non-prison sentences, prisoner education, restorative justice and the like. But they don’t want to give you a break. Ignore them.

    You won’t win the by-election, but get into Ngai Tahu politics. If you end up running this big business of your tribe, the nabobs of niceties will suck up to you as though one bad night on the booze never happened.

    I don’t know what you’ve got under your hat – in intelligence or character, Aaron Gilmore, but judging you on one night’s nasty leer-up is illogical, unfair, and, for many of your critics, hypocritical. History has had quite a few useful pissheads. Winston Churchill and General Grant are two who spring to mind.

    Let’s see what you’ve got to outbalance not holding your grog well.

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  39. Fox (206 comments) says:

    I am actually a little disappointed DPF that you have effectively chosen to join the somewhat indecently frenzied hunt of this guy

    Come on – all DPF did was provide a copy of a humorous satirical piece from another website. This hardly fits the description of a ‘frenzied hunt’. Think you’re blowing things slightly out of proportion.

    I believe he has suffered enough for a drunken night’s actions

    I hardly think Gilmore lies awake at night worrying about what is posted about him here on Kiwiblog, or any other blog for that matter.
    (Heck, with the amount of alcohol he consumes, he probably sleeps more soundly than anyone! :D -joke)

    it is impossible to believe that the media mongrels would still be chasing this for all it’s worth if Gilmore were Darren Hughes

    Yes, most of us are well aware of the media’s inherent left-wing bias. However that doesn’t mean right-leaning bloggers are automatically morally obliged to effectively engage in self-censorship in these circumstances, in order to compensate.

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  40. Pete George (23,559 comments) says:

    I agree regarding the media frenzy, once they smell political blood their frenzies can be over the top.

    But in this case it’s not just the media on Gilmore’s case, and it’s not just over being a drunken dickhead on one occasion. Some of the most persistent pressure (albeit far less frenzied than the media) is from the National Party.

    Ele Ludemann, who Keeping Stock describes as “a senior and respected member of the party”, has posted an open letter on her Home Paddock blog to Gilmore:

    What will it take?

    Dear Aaron,

    If you were at the Mainland Conference in Hanmer to the end you’d have heard West Coast Tasman MP Chris Auckinvole’s final words.

    You might remember him talking about the importance of the two wings of the party, the MPs and the volunteers, and the good that can be achieved when they’re working in unison.

    That was before we knew you hadn’t been at the conference dinner as any MP who took his responsibility to the party seriously, and respected the volunteers, would have been.

    The party understands the competing demands on MPs – parliamentary duties, electorate work, family commitments – but just one weekend a year we ask you all to come to your regional conferences.

    It’s an opportunity for volunteers to discuss policy with you, air concerns, get to know you. The social functions are an important part of that.

    That you chose not to grace the conference dinner with your presence might have been overlooked. Your behaviour at the dinner you did attend can’t be and everything that’s happened since has made it worse.

    I was part of the committee which met in 2011 to rank the party’s list.

    Our deliberations are confidential but the rankings are not.

    You were the lowest ranked sitting MP and anyone with any humility would have worked out why.

    Once a list is ranked and put before the public at an election the party can’t change it. But someone can, as Paul Quinn did, turn down the opportunity to take up a place with his dignity intact and get on with his life.

    You didn’t take the hint from your list placing and claimed the vacant seat. Why?

    You’ve been reported as saying that you have enough money to live on without needing to work so it can’t be the salary.

    I don’t know if you did any good in the few weeks you’ve been back as an MP but in the last few days you’ve done immeasurable harm.

    John Key and National have retained a fairly high and reasonably constant level of popularity in polls for several reasons. One of those is party discipline.

    Both the wings Chris talked about have been strong and flying in unison.

    Your antics are threatening that.

    The Prime Minister has lost confidence in you and the president says the party is disappointed.

    That is putting it very, very mildly.

    If there’s one thing that gets volunteers riled it’s an MP who doesn’t understand the importance of discipline and unity, doesn’t uphold the standard of behaviour expected and puts himself before the party.

    What on earth are you thinking?

    If your words and actions are anything to go by it’s not what’s best for the government, the party, parliament or the country.

    What will it take to make you understand what you’ve done wrong and what’s the only thing you can now do to make it right?

    Yours in disappointment,

    Ele

    https://homepaddock.wordpress.com/2013/05/09/what-will-it-take/

    That’s pretty drastic action from someone in Ludemann’s position in National. “Disappointment’ obviously runs deeper than from one ballsup in Hamner.

    Misleading the Prime Minister on it’s own is a serious offence.

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  41. Jack5 (5,137 comments) says:

    Re Pete George’s 12.30 post:

    So the continuing crusade against the infidel Aaron Gilmore is really about National trying to remedy its poorly drawn up MMP list.

    Why doesn’t National just sack the southern people who promoted Aaron Gilmore within the party’s machinations.

    Gilmore definitely should focus on Ngai Tahu internal politics. He may get restorative justice there. If successful in the tribe, in 30 years NZ’s Establishment might even allow him a knighthood, provided he doesn’t get legless and obnoxious too often between now and then.

    The Gilmore episode is more evidence of the weaknesses of the MMP electoral system. In an electorate, any flaws in Gilmore (and I’m thinking of more than one night’s booze-fuelled Hanmer exhibition), would have been highlighted and judged before election day.

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  42. Pete George (23,559 comments) says:

    And Key has added more:

    Speaking on Radio Live this morning Key said he had not been able to get a straight answer out of Gilmore about events on the night he insulted a waited and allegedly threatened he would have Key sack him if he did not serve him more alcohol.

    Asked if Gilmore should quit, Key said: “If he can’t reconcile what happened on that night in the way that he’s described it to me, then the answer would have to be yes.”

    Key said the answer he gets from Gilmore “either changes or is different”.

    “I can’t provide answers to the public on the back of what feels like quicksand at the other end,” Key said.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/8649684/Aaron-Gilmores-story-like-quicksand

    Gilmore’s explanation even within the first news report last week changed and was different.

    We should have better even from the lowest ranked MPs. Gilmore is not just National’s problem, he is potentially the Government’s problem and the country’s problem.

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  43. Jack5 (5,137 comments) says:

    Key’s wasting time on what a pissed MP did or didn’t say on a night of boozed mayhem?
    This has to be part of a National drive to get Gilmore right out of Parliament and off the list for good. National, helped by National-friendly blogs and the naive MSM, is putting Gilmore under heavy psychological pressure.

    Standing in the by-election as a southern white Maori won’t get the National Party back on Gilmore’s side. It’s part of National’s aim to break Gilmore. Give him a hopeless task then make him feel a failure because he doesn’t succeed. A bit like the old military prisons where you had to carry sand from one hill to another, then back again, or worse, had to polish barbed wire. Not so much reformation, as spirit breaking.

    If Gilmore has the balls, he will stay in the House. He’s got a mate exiled from NZ First, and there are only 18 months to go. The media will soon find some other bone to chew, and things will get easier.

    After the next election, Gilmore should first, get into Ngai Tahu tribal politics, and second, drink in public only with a decent minder.

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  44. Shazzadude (529 comments) says:

    Jack5 “The Gilmore episode is more evidence of the weaknesses of the MMP electoral system. In an electorate, any flaws in Gilmore (and I’m thinking of more than one night’s booze-fuelled Hanmer exhibition), would have been highlighted and judged before election day.”

    Under FPP, we would’ve had 120 electorates, and National would’ve won 80 plus seats based on last election’s voting figures. Gilmore, ranked as the 53rd most talented person National had to offer the electorate, could quite conceivably have been in line to get one of those 80 electorate seats.

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  45. Sofia (857 comments) says:

    Television producer Claudette Hauiti was next on the list.
    Last night she could not confirm if she was still a party member.
    “I need to go away and check and find out.”

    Apparently a Maori lesbian, but a better attribute, perhaps, would be to know if she actually is a National Party member

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  46. Jack5 (5,137 comments) says:

    Shazzadude posted at 1.21:

    …Under FPP, we would’ve had 120 electorates, and National would’ve won 80 plus seats based on last election’s voting figures…

    But, Shazzadude under FPP, in each electorate local people weigh up the candidate, and of course, their party, and make their choice.

    Locals collectively will usually have more knowledge of the background and character of a candidate than some backroom party list committee, lobbied by various branch activists.

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  47. Pete George (23,559 comments) says:

    Locals collectively will usually have more knowledge of the background and character of a candidate

    Sometimes yes but often no.

    Just before the last eelction Channel 9 went out on the streets and most people couldn’t name the candidate who won the electorate.

    I campaigned alongside this candidate, and I still don’t know how he will be as an MP, and especialy how he would be as a Cabinet Minister. There are some promising signs, and there are some worrying signs (his most obvious attribute is being a loyal Labour parrot, and some of his knowledge/research on issues has been very superficial, sometimes ignorant or dishonest).

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  48. goldnkiwi (1,304 comments) says:

    Great analogy, chickens are good at pecking to death, people are good at hounding until suicide. As the tone etc of any comments made is not really known I think the media needs to get a life not a sound bite.

    We have all made jokes and throw away lines that could be misinterpreted by the desperate

    Good on the hotel for not escalating what is no doubt a daily occurance.

    Another slow news week in New Zealand, how lucky we are that this issue is our uppermost news story.

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  49. Jack5 (5,137 comments) says:

    Pete, thanks for that first hand example (1.51 post). But an electoral vote surely is more representative and accurate than opinions solicited by a TV crew on a street?

    I sympathise with your not getting in. If I find myself in an electorate in which you are standing, I will sympathetically consider voting for you. I’m not sure I would give my party vote to Possum Pete Dunne, though.

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  50. David Garrett (7,271 comments) says:

    Pete, what the hell are you talking about? What candidate did you “campaign alongside” who might possibly become a cabinet minister?

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  51. Viking2 (11,467 comments) says:

    toad (3,535) Says:
    May 9th, 2013 at 8:28 am

    I thought Gilmore would be standing for the Dickheads and Fucktards Party.
    ———————————-

    apparently there are spaces in the Greens.
    But how low could you go? Join the slime.
    even a retarded Nat couldn’t do that.

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  52. Redbaiter (8,810 comments) says:

    “here I was thinking my new pills were working a treat…”

    Have you tried doubling the dosage?

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  53. Redbaiter (8,810 comments) says:

    “Ele Ludemann, who Keeping Stock describes as “a senior and respected member of the party”, has posted an open letter”

    Ele’s letter typifies the Nat’s inability to confront the lamestream media. They are so intimidated by these left wing jackals it is painful to observe.

    When will the Nats ever stop dancing to the tune of the media liberals???

    FFS grow some balls Ele and stand by your man.

    Continuing to try and ingratiate yourself with a pack of commie scum posing as media is a game you will never win.

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  54. Pete George (23,559 comments) says:

    DG – actually one already has become a minister, Michael Woodhouse. And actually two others are possibles if Labour-Greens form the next government, Metiria Turei and David Clark.

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  55. Pete George (23,559 comments) says:

    The plot thickens (a bit):

    West Side Tory ‏@tauhenare

    @dpfdpf I just had a 1/2 hour talk with Aaron Gilmour, my view is he shld resign, but he does have a story to tell and we may hear it soon.

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  56. Redbaiter (8,810 comments) says:

    “my view is he shld resign,”

    Tau should resign. Another politically confused twit who dances while the mainstream media pull his strings.

    How could the Nats ever win over the socialist status quo if they show such little fight and such willingness to succumb to left wing media pressure?

    Shuffling gutless bunch of lemmings.

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  57. pq (728 comments) says:

    there is quite a substantial rumour, with facts in Christchurch around why that sanctimonious little prick Andrew Riches was set up to set up Gilmore.
    Strange wasn’t it this little collective aside from the Nat body in Hanmer Springs and why was Riches there at all.
    Time will reveal.
    The NZ Nat idiot conspirators didn’t even get next in the list to be sure she is a member of Nat.
    Oh dear.
    Put your head in the block here Andrew Riches you scum rat lawyer

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  58. David Garrett (7,271 comments) says:

    Russell, have you heard the one about men in glass houses? When you hide behind a pseud – which is even more laughable since everyone knows who you are – and admit yourself you dont like anyone to know where you live for fear of what “they” might do if they track you down, calling others “gutless leemings” and all of your many variants thereof is a bit rich…

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  59. Redbaiter (8,810 comments) says:

    Mr Garret, you wouldn’t know sweet fuck all. You come on here every day with your lame pronouncements about what you know without having the faintest clue whether its true or not. So don’t talk to me about courage for if you had an ounce of it you wouldn’t be so lacking in self respect as to repeat such worthless crap.

    The media made you cry because you’re another witless little lemming who tried so hard to please them and then turned to water when you couldn’t. Until you realise those media bastards are your outright enemy you’ll never be anything but another loser beaten to a bloody pulp by the leftist machine. Just like Gilmore.

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  60. big bruv (13,886 comments) says:

    DG

    Old Bedwetter used to be one of your biggest fans, did you know that?

    I wonder just how many of the Nat’s he (Bedwetter) thinks are worthy of a place in the National party.

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  61. Jack5 (5,137 comments) says:

    TV3’s Campbell Leftists turned Rebecca Wrightweiler loose again today on the Gilmore non-issue, this time snarling at John Key.

    An MP, especially a Prime Minister, faced with such agression must at times feel like an animal control officer.

    Does John Key ever think: “Why did I bother? I could have been relaxing in Hawaii.”

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  62. RRM (9,917 comments) says:

    you’ll never be anything but another loser

    :lol: The force is strong in THIS anonymous letter-writer…

    NEWSFLASH fuckwit:

    Garrett introduced 3 strikes and got it through parliament.

    YOU introduced 13,000 odd angry comments on someone else’s political blog.

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  63. David Garrett (7,271 comments) says:

    Is that right Bruv? I have only just composed myself after that full frontal assault by the supposedly anonymous twerp from Tauranga…easy to be such a hard bastard when you know you can never be called on it I guess…

    But oh Russell…you have upset me dreadfully… I don’t know how I can possibly cope…I’ll tell you what you big hard thing…my e-mail is d.garrett@xtra…send me a message to arrange a meeting time…I’ll come to you….I promise I won’t tell anyone where you live…or perhaps you’d like to come to me…Kanohi Road Kaukapakapa…just ask anyone in the village, they’ll direct you…

    Oh and Russell…that first sentence contains what is known as a double negative…conveys exactly the opposite meaning to that which you intend old man…

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  64. RRM (9,917 comments) says:

    there is quite a substantial rumour, with facts in Christchurch around why that sanctimonious little prick Andrew Riches was set up to set up Gilmore.

    :neutral: Really Peter?

    Mr Nobody at the bottom of the National list, why would anybody consider him worth conspiring against?

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  65. David Garrett (7,271 comments) says:

    ..And while I will keep your hidey hole secret Russell (Scout’s honour) I will let everyone know if you fail to show for our discussion in person..or worse still, don’t contact me at all….but then a hard bastard like you wouldn’t wimp out like that, I’m sure…Holder of the open hole record for PNG an’ all…

    RRM: Yes, there is logic in that…a conspiracy to unseat the lowest ranked MP in the Nats!

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  66. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    we live in such a pc little world now.

    the guy got on the piss. made a cock of himself. who cares.

    no doubt some $300 a week hack will be interviewing people that knew him 20 years ago. trying to establish a pattern. enter toothless loser “when we were in 5th form he got drunk and hit a guy”

    best case scenario for the media – he tries to top himself like veitch did. then they can keep pushing and then eventually come around and blame the public for pushing too far.

    gilmour should start giving it back. hell, wear a tshirt that says “bet you know who i am now”.

    in dimes eyes, he has done his time. move on.

    i avent read whaleoil – not doubt he has gracefully moved on from the subject… while complaining about fat bastards.. while being a fat bastard himself.. the dudes has 17 chins.. but i digress. fuck im writing like philu … fuck

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  67. bhudson (4,740 comments) says:

    Pete, what the hell are you talking about? What candidate did you “campaign alongside” who might possibly become a cabinet minister?

    @DG,

    David Clark

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  68. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    “Mr Nobody at the bottom of the National list, why would anybody consider him worth conspiring against?”

    to embarrass the govt?
    to get whoever appointed him fired
    to get the gay maori chick into parliament?

    lots of reasons why people do bad shit

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  69. RRM (9,917 comments) says:

    Have another wine Dime ;-)

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  70. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    RRM – Dime is sober :(

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  71. RRM (9,917 comments) says:

    That’s where you’re going wrong.

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  72. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    true that. Dime is a bit crook :(

    gf should be here playing nurse but she didnt want a bar of it haha fuck

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  73. nasska (11,491 comments) says:

    For those who came in late…..meet Russell (Redbaiter is his alter ego). :)

    Ref: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/gordon-mclauchlan/news/article.cfm?a_id=4&objectid=3544039

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  74. David Garrett (7,271 comments) says:

    Dime: Unfortunately for Gilmore, this won’t be the end of it…your third para. is spot on…some $300 a week semi-literate “journalist” will be digging furiously now…in the week I took to make up my mind what to do, they contacted my former headmaster, now retired in Invercargill (he last saw me 36 years ago); two former class mates in Australia, neither of whom had been friends, my ex wife (divorced for 10 years by that stage) and several neighbours around here.. since Gilmour is from the right as I was, I can’t see why it would be any different…

    Horan is recognisably Maori, and sort of one of them in the past (he presented the weather with more articulation than the 14 year old female who gave a report on Nat Rad tonight) so they have lost interest in him…and Darren of course is a leftist luvvie, so he never got any attention at all…not even after he claimed his prospective catamite had made a false accusation, and the police made it very clear that not having enough evidence to prosecute and there having been a false complaint made were two very different things…

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  75. Redbaiter (8,810 comments) says:

    “Garrett introduced 3 strikes and got it through parliament.”

    That is right. He did.

    And if you look back you’ll find where as Bigot Bruv says, I was one of Garret’s biggest supporters. I agreed he deserved respect admiration and congratulations for his work in pushing the act through parliament.

    Then he caved in to the left and quit.

    Then he came on here, and in the main acted towards myself like some spite driven schoolgirl.

    So fuck him.

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  76. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    DG – did you entertain the idea of leaving NZ after all the bullshit you went through? or would that be giving in.

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  77. Redbaiter (8,810 comments) says:

    Maybe Nasska, seeing as you are being so helpful, you could point out the connection between that article and myself so that the claim can be verified rather than accepted as fact by so many lame dumb-arsed internet suckholes as personified on this thread by yourself and DG.

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  78. David Garrett (7,271 comments) says:

    No no Russell, “myself” is only used like that by real estate agents trying to sound “professional”, as in “to view the property please contact myself”

    In your case, you should be alleging that I “…acted towards ME [i.e. you] like some spite driven schoolgirl…”

    What I actually did Russell, is to reply to you in kind, but now I think it’s time we actually met in person…

    Did you check the spelling of my e-mail address? I dont seem to have heard from you….

    Dime: shit no! I would never leave here permanently…I am still at Kanohi Road Kaukapakapa where I have lived for 8 years now..

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  79. Redbaiter (8,810 comments) says:

    “I dont seem to have heard from you….”

    You won’t. I have better things to do than correspond with some half arsed long time derrick hand who probably got run off for fucking up the mud weight.

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  80. David Garrett (7,271 comments) says:

    I can almost see poor Russell, clicking the mouse button on the DOWN button furiously…all that anonymous seething resentment being expressed by that overstressed digit….

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  81. Redbaiter (8,810 comments) says:

    “clicking the mouse button on the DOWN button furiously”

    Really? Who’s in a fury then?

    (thanks for the smile)

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  82. David Garrett (7,271 comments) says:

    Actually I must stop baiting the Baiter about his poor grammar and spelling…not everyone can get an education past Standard six…and I’m sure Monrad Intermediate – or wherever he completed his book learning – did their very best with him…

    Still no e-mail from you Russell…and of course everyone can work out that even if you aren’t actually Mr Fletcher, you’ve been invited to contact me…have a good look at the address again…get Ida to help you if you need it…

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  83. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    DG – i guess you have to do whats right for the good of the party….

    id probably be dragged out of parliament bad mouthing anyone i could heh

    National needs a Chris Christie. Someone who will call the media on their shit and get away with it. there would be a backlash to start with but the man in the street would like it

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  84. Redbaiter (8,810 comments) says:

    “Actually I must stop”

    Yes you should. This is a thread about the persecution of Aaron Gilmore by the left and their press lackies and the lame arsed National Party and so many of its supporters who should know better.

    Disgraceful really.

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  85. David Garrett (7,271 comments) says:

    Russell, you’ve promoted me! Last time I “probably never made it past lease hand”…but then perhaps you took heed when I explained they don’t have lease hands offshore, where I did most of my best work, and where a considerable degree of literacy is required of anyone above derrick man…Was it flying in the choppers that put you off perhaps Russell? No shame old man..some chaps just couldnt do it, over open ocean…not after they had seen some of safety videos…

    So now we know ladies and gents…Redbaiter, the hardest man in the Bay, the meanest street fighter on KB, inhabitant of some sterile unit in an equally sterile street in Tauranga, doesn’t actually want to have a face to face discussion … I suppose no more needs to be said…

    Dime: I share you view about Chris Christie…sadly the ACT board didn’t…

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  86. slijmbal (1,236 comments) says:

    DG says

    “Dime: Unfortunately for Gilmore, this won’t be the end of it…your third para. is spot on…some $300 a week semi-literate “journalist” will be digging furiously now…in the week I took to make up my mind what to do, they contacted my former headmaster, now retired in Invercargill (he last saw me 36 years ago); two former class mates in Australia, neither of whom had been friends, my ex wife (divorced for 10 years by that stage) and several neighbours around here..”

    I am with this you on this.

    I happened to be at the same college as someone famous in the news, had no personal relationship with him and had the media wanting to get some ‘comments’ on the back of a f**k up he did. I pointed out I barely knew the guy – they did not care. I only got rid of them by saying I would talk to them if the famous person gave his permission – they finally went away.

    This type of behaviour and more recent interactions with the media have me convinced that the hunt for sensationalism has killed real journalism.

    Don’t get me wrong indications are that Gilmore is a right twat but maybe not quite the twat he is painted.

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  87. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    The best thing that could have happened was the Prime Minister said only the bare minium in public but just made a decision and let it be known to those that do these things that next year Gilmore wont be able to get on a readers Diagest mailing list let alone the National party list.

    It was literally true nobody knew who this guy was, people in Parliament don’t know who he is , so all this has done is give him 15 minutes of fame. Like Dime says ,we’ve all done it when we were drinking – move along and then move Gilmore along

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  88. Nostalgia-NZ (5,198 comments) says:

    Gilmore was fairly tearful in his apology by other standards set, I wonder if he might go on to being an angry man on a message board somewhere.

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  89. David Garrett (7,271 comments) says:

    Another brave anonymous commenter…a human in the cross hairs eh? How does it feel I wonder? Not once, but twice…

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  90. Nostalgia-NZ (5,198 comments) says:

    The little man has lost his bottle.

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  91. David Garrett (7,271 comments) says:

    If you are referring to me, the address is above…but I put on record that YOU I didn’t invite to come out…you put a foot on here son, and you will be treated as a trespasser…I’d swot up on s.48 of the Crimes Act if I were you…I perceive YOU to be a very real threat to me and my family…Russell is just a silly old man…

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  92. Nostalgia-NZ (5,198 comments) says:

    How frightening.

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  93. David Garrett (7,271 comments) says:

    What should have happened to you can be seen in the movie “Pierrepoint”….rent it sometime…and give thanks for every day you get…

    And yes, I am frightened of you…more so that I mightn’t have enough time to deal with you before you took out another young girl…

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  94. Nostalgia-NZ (5,198 comments) says:

    Tough guy one minute, girlfriend the next.

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  95. Redbaiter (8,810 comments) says:

    Take it easy Dave it isn’t that important man.

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  96. Honeybadger (209 comments) says:

    ‘It’ being the right word

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