Chopping Glenn down

June 30th, 2013 at 9:40 am by David Farrar

Poor . He made his fortune overseas, and in recent years has spent a significant portion of it trying to improve New Zealand. His biggest desire was to spent $80 million on reducing child abuse. But of course, he must be dragged down because he has not led a life of perfection. The SST reports:

Millionaire businessman Sir Owen Glenn’s inquiry into domestic violence and child abuse is under further pressure with revelations he was accused of physically abusing a young woman in Hawaii in 2002.

Court documents seen by Fairfax Media show Glenn offered a plea of no contest when the case came before the courts in Hawaii in 2003. That plea means the charge was not contested or admitted. Glenn was put on probation, and the charge was dismissed in 2004 when the probationary period ended.

Court documents show Glenn was arrested in a Honolulu hotel in the early hours of September 10, 2002, and was charged with “abuse of family or household members”. …

Glenn yesterday said in a statement that there was no truth to the allegation.

“My regret now is that I didn’t take the matter to court, however after two years of dispute in the American court system and at the strong advice of my American lawyer I resolved the case in Hawaii to avoid further horrendous court costs, and to bring the matter to an end on an agreed basis which resulted in an order of dismissal.

“It saddens me that yet again it appears the New Zealand media is delving into my personal life to fill their pages while New Zealand is ranked the third highest country in the world for rape and this issue goes virtually unreported.”

Sadly I think this now kills off his inquiry. Sir Owen should focus his efforts in an area where he won’t be turned on and pilloried.

 

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76 Responses to “Chopping Glenn down”

  1. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    I resolved the case in Hawaii to avoid further horrendous court costs

    Isn’t Glenn a multi-millionaire?

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  2. Redbaiter (9,478 comments) says:

    I guess that’s the end of any hope for a diplomatic posting in Monaco.

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  3. WineOh (630 comments) says:

    This was 10 years ago, and becomes news now?? Seems like someone is deliberately seeking to discredit the man.

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  4. jims_whare (403 comments) says:

    The left never forget and utu is a long and festering concept. Ever since Glen stopped being money bags for the labour party he has been treated by the left wing media as the equivalent of a religious heretic.

    Shows the left don’t give a toss about domestic violence or child abuse but they will do anything to pull down a private charitable venture looking for answers -goes against their gospel that the state is best.

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  5. duggledog (1,576 comments) says:

    I can save Glenn $80 million right here, right now without any inquiry

    Child abuse / neglect is largely due to generational state sponsored illegitimacy. Put the money into sterilizing feckless parents

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  6. WineOh (630 comments) says:

    Duggle, you’ll only take 20% of the $80M for your insight & analysis eh!

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  7. Grant Michael McKenna (1,160 comments) says:

    I find it extremely difficult to understand where Sir Owen gets the idea that “New Zealand is ranked the third highest country in the world for rape”. Anyone know what sources he could possibly have to claim that?

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  8. Redbaiter (9,478 comments) says:

    This table has it second.

    NZers keep resisting the truth that they have built one of the most violent and crime ridden countries in the developed world.

    http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_percap-crime-rapes-per-capita

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  9. Harriet (5,085 comments) says:

    “…3rd highest country for rape…”

    Bullshit!

    Canada and Australia arn’t even on the list – and NZ is ranked 2nd – 48 places higher than Egypt?

    Looks then like the NZ Police and the courts are the most FUCKEN USELESS legal force in the Commonwealth.

    Yet year on year the NZ police are accorded as being one of the best forces world wide. :cool:

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  10. Kea (13,233 comments) says:

    This is no surprise to me and is typical of those people who get on a soap box about women being “victims” while portraying men as wrong doers. Just look at his ridiculous lie that NZ is third in the world for rape !!! It is not even close and that is a direct attack on the integrity and decency of all New Zealanders. Often those sort of men have skeletons in the closet. He is wealthy man of influence and it is not hard to imagine his wrong doings being swept under the carpet and being hidden. This one sneaked out, but it will not be the only thing.

    Glenn supported the Labour party, while they added to NZ social ills with their policies and attacks on traditional values, all of which have added to child abuse.

    He should be held to account and called out on the lies he has told regarding NZ being ranked third in the world for rape. He is a disgusting man who should be regarded with utter contempt by any right minded person.

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  11. Kea (13,233 comments) says:

    Redbaiter , fuck off to Africa and live then. You will be safe from violence and rape there. Take your lying sack of shit mate Glenn with you.

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  12. backster (2,183 comments) says:

    He has shown himself to be a National benefactor and deserved hi s knighthood. He made a mistake in filling his poverty expert s panel with gravy slurping leftwing ideologues who only talk and don’t ‘do’, then when they fall out with each other they look for dirt.

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  13. Harriet (5,085 comments) says:

    NZ women can’t understand the differance in being raped, to being an unwilling partner in sex.

    The differance is significant – just ask some woman who has been raped!

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  14. Kea (13,233 comments) says:

    Harriet, what we in NZ would call, a violent brutal rape that shocked the nation, would not even make the papers in many countries. Women in those places seldom even bother reporting it and when they do, they are sometimes raped by the cops.

    Glenn is nothing more than another posing lefty pushing anti male feminist garbage. He is great mates with the anti male hate movement, the womens refuge, who’s founders had the stated goal of destroying the traditional family and promoting lesbianism.

    We should not tolerate this and nor should we overlook Glenn’s wrong doings just because this rich and powerful man kept it hidden for ten years, as some on here suggest. I do not think it is “sad” he has been caught out, as David suggests. In the sort of system Glenn demands men accused of such things would be dealt with more harshly. I guess it is different when your not a poor working class male though ? That seems to be the message I am hearing from some.

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  15. Chuck Bird (4,922 comments) says:

    If Owen Glen wants to see some decent research done into domestic violence he should gvie Family First a million.

    Owne Glen like Peter Boshier want to look like knights in shining armor but do not really give a stuff about real child abuse. Boshier is a senior judge but what has he got to say about yet another female paedophile getting home D and permanent name suppression.

    Home D for woman’s sex abuse of boy, 13
    by AARON LEAMAN

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/8852046/Home-D-for-womans-sex-abuse-of-boy-13

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  16. you reap what you sow (35 comments) says:

    Sadly the voices missing from this are the dead babies and children. What would they want Owen Glen to do?

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  17. hj (7,059 comments) says:

    There’s always a point at stake here. In this case (I assume) it is individual responsibility versus colonialism/ capitalism. The same probably applies to the Nisbett cartoons where it would perhaps have been moral hazard.

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  18. gump (1,658 comments) says:

    @Kea

    You are broken.

    Please get some help from an accredited counsellor or therapist.

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  19. Grant Michael McKenna (1,160 comments) says:

    Nationmaster?
    If Owen Glenn is using that website, with its absolute refusal to ensure that statistics are comparable, then I can understand why he would be so wrong. Nationmaster simply collates- it doesn’t evaluate.

    The Nationmaster citation is to the European Institute for Crime Prevention and Control’s “International Statistics on Crime and Justice, 2011″, which explicitly states that it only deals with reported rapes- and points out that in some cases all sexual assaults are equated within the statistics.

    Anyway- here are their top ten:
    Canada
    Sweden
    New Zealand
    United States of America
    Northern Ireland
    England and Wales
    Scotland
    Finland
    Germany
    Denmark

    The Democratic Republic of the Congo [1] and South Africa [2] are not on that list.

    1: 30% of females reporting personal rapes [almost 40% in the war zone]
    Johnson, Kristen; Jennifer Scott, Bigy Rughita, Micahel Kisielewski, Jana Asher, Ricardo Ong and Lynn Lawry (2010). “Association of Sexual Violence and Human Rights Violations with Physical and Mental Health in Territories of the Eastern Democratic Republic of the Congo”. The Journal of the American Medical Association 304 (5): 553–561.
    2: South African political arguments affect the collation of data, but some idea of the rape rate can be gleaned from the fact that just over a quarter of men reported having raped a woman in a study done by the South African Medical Research Council- http://www.mrc.ac.za/gender/violence_hiv.pdf

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  20. peterwn (3,296 comments) says:

    There are groups currently banging away about child ‘poverty’, inequality, social justice, etc. However many of those involved have collateral left wing and green policies. So instead of trying to reach out to a political party who could help, they deface the party’s billboards. They want people to ‘share’. When one like Owen Glenn offers to ‘share’, he gets kicked in the guts. Seems the only type of ‘sharing’ they want is punitive taxation, which will drive away investment.

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  21. joana (1,983 comments) says:

    So islamic countries are keeping figures on rape now?? Wow that’s progress..Are they counting all the little boys??
    Glenn is a shadowy character..Why get involved in something when you know you have a rather conflicting skeleton lying around somewhere.? I always wonder about these people who seem to forget their own skeletons? Have they amnesia.?? Have they so many skeletons they have lost count? Are they semi delusional and unable to connect the dots between their about to be unearthed skeleton and their new project? Do they need new closets , burial grounds or what? Beats me.

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  22. Kea (13,233 comments) says:

    The Democratic Republic of the Congo [1] and South Africa [2] are not on that list.

    Of course not. How will that help portray males unfavourably in those societies where women enjoy the greatest freedoms and standard of living in the world ?

    According to the likes of Glenn & gump the women in NZ would gladly move to the Congo where they would be safe from rape ! It scares me to think how tolerant we are of this sort of rubbish. Western men are broken souls, which is why Western women regard them with such contempt I guess.

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  23. joana (1,983 comments) says:

    We don’t all regard Western men with contempt. Living in an islamic , third world dump made me really , really appreciate kiwi men. I always stick up for them.

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  24. Kea (13,233 comments) says:

    joana, yes and many [most ?] women are not raving feminists. The problem is that extreme feminist views have become so normalized in NZ that we barely even notice them.

    It may surprise you to hear that many of my confronting views are met with nods of agreement by a large number of my female friends. Many agree about the anti male bias we have and the damaging effects that has on society and relationships.

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  25. Don the Kiwi (1,793 comments) says:

    The small minded hypocrisy of the left wing media (that is, all media) in this country is mind-blowing.
    Why would anyone want to do anything trying to help when all they want to do is denigrate the “Rich pricks”?

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  26. kowtow (8,712 comments) says:

    No amount of spending can fix a morally bankrupt society.

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  27. Paulus (2,656 comments) says:

    Looks though the original “team” chosen to lead his financed enquiry, who decided on their own agenda irrespective, are on a “Utu” path assisted by the media as usual as they did not like being taken to task.
    They forgot that he who pays the piper calls the tunes.

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  28. tvb (4,488 comments) says:

    How can horrendous costs be a problem for a billionaire. Lawyers are not that expensive. A deal was done, Glen got the conviction wiped, so he is legally innocent.

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  29. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Western men are broken souls, which is why Western women regard them with such contempt I guess.

    FFS Kea
    I’m sure that the woman that gave you shit about the size of your wedding tackle didn’t realise she was going to create the problem she has.

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  30. Kea (13,233 comments) says:

    Pauleastbay, all I am asking here is that Glenn is judged by the same standards as he judges other men. I have seen guys like you many times. You wonder what I am on about, then suddenly your partner leaves and you find out the hard way. Fortunately my break up was very simple, but we had no kids involved. Others are not so lucky.

    It is not ok to bend over and take this anti male shit. Grow a pair. You will find that women like gutless subjugated men even less than I do. You have been brain washed into thinking otherwise. Man up.

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  31. Kea (13,233 comments) says:

    tvb , yeah it is amazing what you can do if your rich. I wonder what the outcome would have been had he not been rich, but the same thing happened ? I suspect prison for abusing the young girl.

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  32. OneTrack (3,204 comments) says:

    joana -“Why get involved in something when you know you have a rather conflicting skeleton lying around somewhere.? I always wonder about these people who seem to forget their own skeletons”

    So no such thing as redemption or possibly seeing the error of your ways? A man should be permanently tarred be events in their past?

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  33. Chuck Bird (4,922 comments) says:

    If Ruth Herbert is telling the truth and Glenn had signed a form declaring he had no history which could embarrass the inquiry it gets what he deserves.

    Many fathers are denied unsupervised access with their children on flimsy and often false allegations and Glenn is happy to support this.

    The ordinary man could be excused for doing what Glenn did because they really cannot afford lawyers. If Glenn does not want to tell us the details of what he was alleged to have done I do not accept his word as his story does not stack up. I would like to know how serious the assault allegation was. Was it physical, sexual or both?

    Why does he not do something useful in the area of child abuse like call for all adult paedophiles to be jailed be they male or female? It is probably too late now as he has lost all credibility now and rightfully so.

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  34. Paul Marsden (998 comments) says:

    Firstly, there are two sides to every story and Glenn is a ladies man, and he would be the first to admit it. So what?? Accusing Glenn of doing this and doing that, is as disgusting as it is pathetic. This man has made a significant contribution to NZ society and has been treated like a leper in return. Next thing you’ll be accusing Howard Morrison (his mate), of similar acts, I have bo doubt.

    A plague on you all who vilify this man. You disgust me.

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  35. Kea (13,233 comments) says:

    Paul Marsden, why the double standard. We are simply speaking of Glenn the same way he has of so many other men. If it was not for your double standard, I would agree with what you wrote.

    I am not “anti women” I am anti double standards. If the fight was for equality, then I would be all for it. It may surprise some to learn that at one time I did voluntary work for the the Women Refuge ! There are some good people there, but they are outnumbered by militant feminists and lesbians with other agendas. Sad but true.

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  36. joana (1,983 comments) says:

    Kea,
    I am sure I have put this on here somewhere before..About ten years ago I got the job description for a job with the W’s refuge in CHCH…One of the stated requirements was that I be ”committed to furthering lesbian visibility.” About that time the good people of CHCH were raising thousands for this org. thru some big event..How many of these people would know that this was such a big goal of this organization??

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  37. Kea (13,233 comments) says:

    joana, yes I am not surprised. It is unfortunate, as there is a place for such organisations.

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  38. Yoza (1,903 comments) says:

    How is being ”committed to furthering lesbian visibility.” a bad thing, unless you are the sort of fanatic that thinks homosexuality should be ‘safely’ tucked away in a closet.

    If young men or women are lesbian or gay then surely they should be able to witness their sexuality as normal in the same way heterosexual youth are affirmed in theirs.

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  39. Kea (13,233 comments) says:

    Yoza, there is nothing wrong with it. The problem is them praying on vulnerable women and destroying families with a hidden agenda. They are not there to help women, they are there to promote anti male sentiment and break down traditional family values.

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  40. Redbaiter (9,478 comments) says:

    Yoza is a communist.

    Ergo he’ll never understand anything that relates to playing with a straight bat.

    The point here is that while these feminazi scum were collecting money from the public on the pretext it would be used to help women in distress, they were diverting those funds to lesbian propaganda.

    That’s deceit Yoza, but of course when has that ever worried subversive communist arseholes like you. Deceit is your life blood.

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  41. Chuck Bird (4,922 comments) says:

    How is being ”committed to furthering lesbian visibility.” a bad thing

    @Yoza

    I think the relations of Doug Gardner would have a better answer than me. Do you remember who Doug Gardner was? He was the man who was murdered with the help and/or encouragement of the man hating dykes at a Christchurch refuge. It is an outrage they were not charged.

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  42. Yoza (1,903 comments) says:

    “Yoza is a communist.” No, if I am anything I am an anarchist.

    Women’s refuge is the last resort for woman in dire circumstances and one of the few organisations that actively protects women from being bashed to death. Restraining orders issued by the courts have been useless in preventing the deaths, at the hands of estranged partners, of an increasing line of women in this country.

    “I think the relations of Doug Gardner would have a better answer than me. Do you remember who Doug Gardner was? “

    It is quite unusual for a woman to kill her partner. I recall at the time the case highlighted the disparity between the sentences passed down to woman found guilty of killing their partners and those of men committing the same offense – women were receiving much lengthier sentences for the same crime. Didn’t it also raise the question of whether battered woman syndrome could be used as a relevant defense for the accused person actions?

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  43. Manolo (14,018 comments) says:

    Is Yoza another member of Labour’s Rainbow Branch?

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  44. Kea (13,233 comments) says:

    Women’s refuge is the last resort for woman in dire circumstances

    And what they need is increased lesbian visibility ?

    idn’t it also raise the question of whether battered woman syndrome could be used as a relevant defense for the accused person actions?

    You mean the Clayton Weatherston defense of provocation ?

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  45. Kea (13,233 comments) says:

    I still want to know what the Labour supporter, and anti male activist, Glenn, did to that poor young girl ? :)

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  46. Chuck Bird (4,922 comments) says:

    “I recall at the time the case highlighted the disparity between the sentences passed down to woman found guilty of killing their partners and those of men committing the same offense”

    @Yoza

    The opposite is the case just like with female paedophiles. Show us a case where a man convicted of demurring his partner was free before his minimum non parole period was up. Oakes was sentenced to life with 10 years minimum but was out in 8 years.

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  47. Chuck Bird (4,922 comments) says:

    @Kea

    You mention young girl. Do you know anything more than is in the media?

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  48. Kea (13,233 comments) says:

    Chuck Bird, no and if I did I would not say. However I feel free to subject Glenn to the same comments and speculation he and the anti male hate groups he supports, subject others to.

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  49. goldnkiwi (1,501 comments) says:

    No to the provocation. My understanding of it is. On one hand you could claim self defence, but self defence suggests that there is a specific threat at a specific time that the defence is against. Battered woman’s defence is that one has had to pick one’s moment after years of abuse where you have felt unable to defend yourself.

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  50. Chuck Bird (4,922 comments) says:

    The jury did not buy the battered woman’s defence. It appears from the transcripts that Oakes was not happy Gardner was seriously thinking of going back with his wife. In and case the dykes that helped dig the grave did not have that excuse but they got off scott free

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  51. OneTrack (3,204 comments) says:

    Yoza – “No, if I am anything I am an anarchist.”

    An anarchist who happens to believe the bigger and more control the state has, the better. Just like Meteria -were you two in the same “anarchist” group? Sorry Yoza, what you consistently advocate sounds remarkably like communism to me.

    I know calling yourself an “anarchist” sounds really hip and cool (just like Rick -“crazy”) .

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  52. Akaroa (577 comments) says:

    Having read the articles critical of Mr Glenn in today’s newspaper, I see the old “Kiwi Clobbering Machine’ of years gone by is still in good working order!!

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  53. F E Smith (3,307 comments) says:

    if I am anything I am an anarchist.

    Just as I have always said.  Yoza, proud member of a political philosophy that has been murdering its opponents and destroying other people’s property since 1848…

    harriet,

    Normally your arguments make sense, although I don’t always agree with you. But this:

    Looks then like the NZ Police and the courts are the most FUCKEN USELESS legal force in the Commonwealth.

    is very wrong.  It is not the role of the Courts to fight crime, nor are they in a partnership with the Police.  It is the role of the Police/Crown to investigate the complaint, collect the evidence and then (ultimately) present it to the Court for determination as to whether the accusation has been proved or not.  The Court is supposed to be an impartial arbiter between two sides, not a part of the State prosecution apparatus. 

    But your point, minus the bit about the Court, is well made: that Nationmaster list, is, as has been pointed out elsewhere, laughable in its incompleteness.  Anyone putting any faith in it just doesn’t understand the current world political scene.  As has been noted, leaving out places like the Congo neuters any value that it might have.

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  54. labrator (1,850 comments) says:

    The definition from that website is :

    DEFINITION: People victimized by sexual assault (as a % of the total population). Data refer to female population only. Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevalence.

    Here’s the numbers of rape(& sexual assualt) from Te Ara. The numbers don’t correlate whatsoever.

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  55. Scott1 (570 comments) says:

    As per Wineoh,

    who is this person who has it in for Owen Glen and apparently doesn’t want us to have a commission on child abuse?

    For what it is worth, I don’t see why this is a practical issue even though I can see why it is a political one.

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  56. dime (10,086 comments) says:

    Lol @ Ross.

    Your post shows while you will never be rich

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  57. dime (10,086 comments) says:

    If dime had Owen Glenn money and was being fucked with.. I’d do some digging of my own.

    Hire some investigators to dig up bad shit on these hack reporters

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  58. Kea (13,233 comments) says:

    I wonder if I would see the same people trying to minimise the abuse of a young women, if the alleged offender was a middle aged Maori chap ?

    I can see double standards in all directions on this thread. Not just the usual feminist propaganda parroted by mindless wimps who have lost the ability to think, but also by those who think rich people are a special case.

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  59. Sir Cullen's Sidekick (894 comments) says:

    He is wasting his millions here on this enquiry which will produce nothing.

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  60. Lance (2,704 comments) says:

    Sir Owen has learnt that no good deed goes unpunished.

    As for trying to work with academics…. Bra ha ha ha ha

    Hell I was in a staff meeting of a Uni dept where everyone agreed that managing accademics was like hearding cats!

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  61. Chuck Bird (4,922 comments) says:

    @Kea

    I wondered about your description of the woman as young as it was not in what I read. It came out on the news. You are spot on. I wonder if Peter Boshier gets an extra bonk for all the anti-male crap he spouts.

    I heard Key on TV going on how a man hitting a woman was about the worst crime imaginable. What crap. Women can look after themselves much better than children. Why is he not concerned about female paedophiles not to mention females who seriously abuse children.

    Why is he not concerned about a certain High Court judge who appears to be a serial sexual predictor?

    Anyone who objects to unreasonable demands of feminist is labeled a misogynist.

    Anyone who objects to unreasonable demands of homosexuals is labeled a homophobe.

    Anyone who objects to unreasonable demands of Maroi is labeled a racist.

    Why are so many people scared of these labels.

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  62. Kea (13,233 comments) says:

    I wonder if Peter Boshier gets an extra bonk for all the anti-male crap he spouts.

    I doubt it. Even feminists prefer real men. They use people like Boshier, but secretly regard them with contempt.

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  63. doggone7 (818 comments) says:

    Don the Kiwi
    “The small minded hypocrisy of the left wing media (that is, all media) in this country is mind-blowing.”

    So there’s this blogsite run by this fellow Whaleoil. You could look it up and tell him about his small minded left wing hypocrisy since he is part of all the media!

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  64. Mark (1,488 comments) says:

    And we wonder why successful expats don’t bother coming back to invest in and contribute to the betterment of NZ.

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  65. Kea (13,233 comments) says:

    Mark, I think NZ is actually pretty tolerant of hypocrites who sponsor anti male hate groups, while abusing young women.

    Glenn can fuck right off in my opinion. He is a dangerous man due the combination of anti male hate and money.

    If he really wanted to stop domestic violence he would be speaking out against the biggest perpetrators, women ! Not telling lies about how we have the third highest rape rate in the world. A statement he blurted out while being asked about his own sordid wrong doings with women. He owes the country an apology.

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  66. Kea (13,233 comments) says:

    Governors of an anti-violence inquiry fronted by Sir Owen Glenn are standing by the millionaire businessman amidst revelations he was accused of physically abusing a young woman in Hawaii in 2002.

    Court documents seen by Fairfax show Sir Owen offered a plea of no contest when the case came before the courts in Hawaii in 2003. That plea means the charge was not contested or admitted. Glenn was put on probation, and the charge was dismissed in 2004 when the probationary period ended.

    The documents show Sir Owen was arrested in a Honolulu hotel in the early hours of September 10, 2002, and was charged with “abuse of family or household members”.

    I wonder if they would be “standing by” a poor working class white guy from Invercargill, given the same factual situation ?

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  67. Kea (13,233 comments) says:

    “The Glenn inquiry” June 7th

    KiwiGreg (2,878) Says:
    June 7th, 2013 at 1:23 pm
    ..or it could be a problem with Glenn

    I bet the people who thumbed that comment down feel like dicks now. Looks like KiwiGreg may have been right.

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  68. burt (8,299 comments) says:

    Meanwhile… Winston is now accusing Owen Glenn of forcing him to take $100,000 against his will….

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  69. joana (1,983 comments) says:

    Owen Glenn is sleazy..and Commissions have been useless wastes of time since they were first … well commissioned..Nothing much ever comes out of them..Facts checks all round for the big boys who get appointed. to investigate things those in the know have known for a long time but for their own personal gain have chosen to ignore..a few months later a huge report which almost no one reads..Fairly soon after , business as usual.
    All Glen seems to want is his name on something..I haven’t read the newspaper articles on him but elsewhere I have read he has alleged links to the mafia..If he understood anything about commissions and NZ society he would know commissions almost always achieve nothing of any real consequence..I agree with Kea..bugger off..and take your ill gotten gains with you.

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  70. lazza (382 comments) says:

    Face it. Glenn should have declared the Hawaii law suit-case … whatever its outcome … before! he approached others to assist with his Trust fund activities. That would have been honest, Glenn plainly finds honesty … hard.

    He has a legendary sleazy big noter’s reputation for lecher,(with a blonde on each arm) and it seems to me a barely concealed, though possibly sub consious desire to appease criticism of his windfall wealth and privilige.

    We might all think well of him (as he wishes) but for his naieve guilt ridden belief that money buys peace and happiness.

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  71. Kea (13,233 comments) says:

    Thanks to people like joana & lazza, who dare to question the popular narrative, I still have hope.

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  72. Sy (3 comments) says:

    I suspect the opposition to this Enquiry stems from the fact it is uncovering horror stories about incompetence in the Family Court and by CYF social workers… These appear to be the lobby group most active in trying to shut down the Enquiry. Today I listened to Judge Boshier attacking Owen Glenn and from reading between the lines and reflecting on my own past dealings with Boshier, I can only conclude these people are in damage mode trying to shut down investigations that threaten to damage their careers.

    My own son was beaten unconscious as a baby and both CYF and Police initially refused to investigate. After 9 months of agitation I finally forced Police to investigate and by then they were motivated to discredit my complaints against Police and CYF. Eventually Police falsely misled the Family Court that there was no evidence to substantiate my complaint and persuaded the Family Court that I was making false allegations likely to harm my son and used this justification to deny me contact with my son for a decade.

    Last year Police Commissioner Peter Marshall finally and grudgingly disclosed my son’s mother admitted “smacking” my son. Something they would not disclose to the Family Court. Nor did Police admit that the CYF social worker had discreetly asked Police not to interview witnesses. Something it took me many years to uncover from CYF files. Files which the Family Court will not permit in evidence.

    The Police to this day maintain that there was no evidence yet ACC forms disclose that my then 17 month baby son had a black eye. My experience of CYF, Police and the Family Court is that they are all dysfunctional and dishonest… The Glenn Inquiry has ruffled feathers because it is uncovering hundreds if not thousands of similar tales from victims where CYF and the Family Court got it wrong… Those with vested interests, ie incompetent Family Court judges, social workers and the likes are desperately trying to discredit and torpedo this Inquiry to stop the truth coming out. Shame. Protecting children is not about politics nor is it about protecting the careers of incompetent social workers, judges or police officers.

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  73. Chuck Bird (4,922 comments) says:

    Shocking story you tell there. It is good Boshier is no longer Principal Family Court Judge. It was much better when Sir Patrick Mahony was in that position. He met with a father’s group and listened – something Boshier refused to do.

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  74. Sy (3 comments) says:

    Tell me about it… I am still living the nightmare and both Police CYF and Family Court continue to block me adducing evidence of physical beatings of my son by his mother over a 2 year period and subsequent psychological abuse. I am denied legal aid by a dysfunctional court system. I was also blocked by the Family Court from adducing expert medical evidence that the mother suffered a dangerous Paranoid Psychosis exacerbated by steroid abuse which caused Cushings Syndrome. The Family Court judge dismissed my evidence saying the mother was entitled to medical privacy. The Family Court did not give a damn about the dangers to my son.

    I also had dealings with Judge Mahoney and he was equally disinterested. It is irrelevant who the presiding Chief Family Court Judge happens to be because they all serve one common aim. To keep the cess pit of a dysfunctional gravy train for lawyers hidden behind walls of secrecy.

    The official excuse is that it protects the confidentiality of victims, but in practice Family Court secrecy actually denies justice and shelters incompetent CYF social workers. That is the real debate this country should be having. Scores of children murdered in the home were at the time of their murders under CYF attention.

    Consider the case of Coral Burrows whose non custodial father Ron kept raising concerns with CYF social worker Jodie Pivac about Coral, before his daughter was murdered. Pivac concealed and denied his notifications of child abuse until a special enquiry proved them. She has never apologised nor accepted responsibility for Coral’s death. What she did was no different to CYF social workers falsely denying violence against my son. Pivac left CYF and went to work for Police in their Child Abuse team which then discovered 80 covered up cases of child abuse in the Wairarapa thanks to one diligent female detective in Wellington who actually cared.

    Coral Burrows was only the tip of a huge iceberg in this country of dysfunctional CYF interventions.

    Boshier will no doubt get a knighthood but in my opinion and based on my personal experience of the man he was unfit to hold the office of Chief family Court Judge. He is certainly unfit to attack Sir Owen Glenn.

    It is only after hearing Boshier’s attack on Glenn that I decided to participate in the Glenn Enquiry and turn over my story to them. I am disgusted by two faced lawyers, judges, police officers and social workers who are unfit to hold office.

    Boshier is just another cog in a dysfunctional system. I pray that the Glenn Enquiry uncovers this whole stinking mess

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  75. Kea (13,233 comments) says:

    Sy, Glenns sponsorship of anti male hate groups will not help the situation. Otherwise I agree with you.

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  76. Chuck Bird (4,922 comments) says:

    Sy, I basically agree with Kea. I am critical of Glenn myself but for different reason than Boshier. I disagree with your view that all judges are bad. I think the majority are good people but when you get a bad one as you have I can understand you feeling as you do. I recently got a shocking judge in the High Court on a civil matter. Since then I have had two very good and fair judges, Both happened to be female.

    It would be nice if those who promote one law for all also promoted one law for all in relation to gender issues.

    It only takes a baseless unsupported allegation from a woman and a father gets supervised access but when a man like you or Coral Burrows’ father complains they are very often ignored.

    Good luck to you. I hope you have a good relationship with your son now.

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