A deputy for Winston – just 18 months late

October 22nd, 2013 at 10:00 am by David Farrar

Winston announced after the election, they would appoint/annoint a Deputy Leader for him by March 2012. Now in October 2013 we read in the Herald:

However, he did make what may be a concession to the fact the party must at some point face life without him by yesterday revealing it will select a deputy leader “within a few weeks”.

While NZ First has had deputy leaders before, it hasn’t had one for some years.

Mr Peters, his MPs and party members are all reluctant to discuss who might take over when he steps down but the appointment of a deputy would surely provide some kind of answer.

Already at number two on the party list is Tracey Martin.

Ms Martin is likely to have some handy allies in the party hierarchy and membership given her mother and long-time party secretary, Anne Martin, was yesterday elected party president. But neither Tracey Martin nor anyone else at the senior or any other level of the party appears to have anything like even the potential to develop the abilities, experience and charisma of Mr Peters.

How about Brendan Horan? Richard Prosser?

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24 Responses to “A deputy for Winston – just 18 months late”

  1. Pete George (23,559 comments) says:

    Did Peters heave Horan out of the party because he saw him as a threat to his leadership? That would have been a strong signal to the other NZF MPs to keep their ambitions to themselves and tow the Peters line.

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  2. Cato (1,095 comments) says:

    Interesting theory Peter George. My pet theory is that he was expelled from the party becuase he was accused of taking money from his mum for gambling purposes.

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  3. CameronFoxton (28 comments) says:

    I think bringing in john tamihere as deputy and running him in west auckland would be the most fun to watch

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  4. All_on_Red (1,581 comments) says:

    I thought Johnnie Walker has been Winston’s deputy for years?

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  5. lazza (381 comments) says:

    Bevan Cheung for NZ 1st VP? … after all Winston has always been very exercised on matters relating to our Eastern-Asiatic cousins.

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  6. RRM (9,917 comments) says:

    Anyone who’s not a member, voter or enthusiast of NZ First can see that following the departure of Winston NZ First will suffer a short convalescence and quick natural death.

    I suppose those who are involved probably feel like they need to pretend it’s not so though…

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  7. Monty (977 comments) says:

    Moot point. The Winston first party is only about Winston. There is absolutely no point in having a deputy, as no one is allowed any profile. Once Winston is out of the party it will not exist.

    My only thought is when will the years of smoking, excessive drinking, late nights, and mixed grills from the green parrot finally take out Winston.

    By the way you lying corrupt prick, where is the taxpayers $158,000?

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  8. marcw (247 comments) says:

    The idea of Brendon Horan being in any position of leadership is just ridiculous. He has the charisma of a flatfish, and the intellectual ability of… well, a flatfish. This is nothing to do with his family’s problems, and anyone listening to him speaking in Parliament would come to this conclusion in less time than Len takes to complete.

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  9. Keeping Stock (10,337 comments) says:

    Andrew Williams would surely be the best-credentialed to uphold Winston’s reputation of late nights, and negotiation over a bottle :P

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  10. Samuel Smith (276 comments) says:

    I remember around this time last year the author of this blog suggesting Shane Jones would join NZ First and become the leader.

    The Right wing blogger referred to seeing Peters and Jones sharing a drink together on the Wellington waterfront.

    That turned out to be an accurate prediction didn’t it?

    About as accurate as Act and United Future having a future post 2014.

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  11. Pete George (23,559 comments) says:

    Samuel Smith – it wasn’t a prediction, it was made clear it was “purely speculation” and “this is all speculation” with a fair dollop of tongue in cheek, and in the end it was put as a question.

    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/10/could_shane_waka_jump_to_nz_first.html

    This makes your comment about as accurate as most of your comments.

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  12. Samuel Smith (276 comments) says:

    @Pete George – Thank you for confirming just how good my memory is with that link.

    I guess the Right wing blogger’s “speculation” was correct – Shane’s now a NZ First MP.

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  13. Keeping Stock (10,337 comments) says:

    If Peters was going to have NZ First as genuinely representative, he’d have to appoint Asenati Taylor as his deputy, wouldn’t he?

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  14. iMP (2,384 comments) says:

    Speaking of which, Dalziel has just appointed, predictably, Vicki Buck as deputy of Chch. So, we now have 2 Labour mayors in Chch.

    http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2013/10/22/as-predicted-2-labour-mayors-for-chch/

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  15. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    Ha Ha Hamnida, like any left wing politician Shane Jones is clinging as tightly as he can to the his place at the trough. As long as Labour will have him he won’t be going anywhere.
    That’s a prediction you can bet on.

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  16. Liberty (267 comments) says:

    Asenati as adeputy?
    There is a lot going for that suggestion.
    It would help with the demise of the party.
    We live in hope.

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  17. Keeping Stock (10,337 comments) says:

    Liberty said

    Asenati as a deputy?
    There is a lot going for that suggestion.
    It would help with the demise of the party.

    Was it that obvious?

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  18. David Garrett (7,271 comments) says:

    Re Mr Horan, the latest is the executors are no longer chasing any allegedly wrongly taken money, and he is going to get paid out, along with the other beneficiaries…perhaps all will be forgiven?

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  19. PaulD (97 comments) says:

    From Stuff “It was understood the executor, Olwen Horan’s nephew John Buckthought, decided enough money had been eaten up by legal fees and a forensic investigation, and the estate should be settled before it was wiped out completely. ” Speculation was that “enough money” was $100,000+. The other relatives might keep donating to the legal profession.

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  20. burt (8,269 comments) says:

    A deputy – somebody from the Vella family perhaps ?

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  21. marcw (247 comments) says:

    @ PaulD:

    Indeed, the ‘legal’ sytsem has sucked out all the money it can, so “Justice” will conveniently be sidelined and ignored. The court royalty – judges, and lawers – will retire to the library for port and cigars, and congratulate themselves on a job well done.

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  22. nickb (3,687 comments) says:

    Who cares? The chance of NZF surviving Winston is 0.00000000000002132%

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  23. Shazzadude (529 comments) says:

    I think the party has a chance of survival post-Winston if Ron Mark were to be the successor. Ron Mark would be a chance at winning Wairarapa.

    Deputy leader outside of parliament isn’t out of the question.

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  24. ChardonnayGuy (1,206 comments) says:

    Asenati would definitely kill off the party. However, she’s at least as populist and grandstanding as her Beloved Leader, Winstone. One excellent reason not to give NZF one’s party vote, no matter which side of politics you hail from. Except if you’re a craven religious social conservative populist who hates classical liberals and the National Party, or the centre left.

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