Plunket on jailed activists

October 12th, 2013 at 7:32 am by David Farrar

writes in the Dom Post:

I’ve never been held in a jail cell but it is, I imagine, not a very pleasant experience. I also imagine Russia would be one of the worst places to find yourself incarcerated, along with North Korea, Myanmar, El Salvador and China.

Certainly the 30 activists from 18 different nations currently held at the pleasure of Vladimir Putin’s government are finding the going pretty rugged.

Among their various complaints is the fact that it is cold, there are some nasty people in jail with them and the guards do not speak English. Well what did they expect – Sky and a sauna?

One cannot imagine that the crew of the Arctic Sunrise headed to the Arctic circle to illegally board an oil drilling rig with the expectation that a country with a long history of state repression and brutality was going to welcome them with open arms, put up its hands and cease drilling for black gold because a bunch of well-intentioned foreigners are worried about global warming, polar bears and whales.

The outcome was rather predictable.

It would have been the height of naivety for the world’s largest multinational protest group to think it could out run or out-manoeuvre a nuclear-armed ex-superpower with one of the largest navies in the world. So we can logically conclude that the Arctic Circle 30, including two Kiwis, set off on their protest with the expectation and indeed the intention of being arrested, quite legally, for breaching the laws of Russia.

In those circumstances the faux outrage Greenpeace is now expressing around the globe can be seen only as part of a carefully planned and executed campaign in which the 30 jailbirds were either willing participants or unwitting pawns.

They would probably have been disappointed if they were not arrested!

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33 Responses to “Plunket on jailed activists”

  1. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    The Russians have also found drugs aboard the activist ship and are prosecuting for that as well. Russia has suffered more than enough due to socialism and knows how to deal with communists.

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  2. bringbackdemocracy (427 comments) says:

    The Green movement needs recycling.

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  3. BeeJay (72 comments) says:

    It is really unbelievable! You have to wonder if the Green 30 were all on something! Or been on the boat for so long they haven’t heard any radio, read any newspapers or watched any TV! OK, they were definitely on something!! Greenpeace, it’s time to get home and sort yourselves out, that is, if you ever get out of jail! Just had a thought! What a pity the idiot Green Australian, Russell, wasn’t on the ship with them! He could do with a taste of reality!

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  4. Manolo (13,839 comments) says:

    Pirates deserve jail, the harshest possible jail, don’t they?

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  5. Matt (227 comments) says:

    Or a yardarm

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  6. Mobile Michael (452 comments) says:

    Pawns – because if Greenpeace cared about the activists, it would never have boarded.

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  7. jaba (2,143 comments) says:

    what will annoy me is that when they get released, be it next week or in 12-15 years, they will be heroes to the cause

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  8. peterwn (3,277 comments) says:

    jaba – and the females will probably land lucrative womens magazine contracts along the lines of ‘How I survived a Munmansk jail’.

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  9. CharlieBrown (1,015 comments) says:

    Good riddance – just wish our green party mps were with them.

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  10. Albert_Ross (298 comments) says:

    On their own terms, Greenpeace have played this brilliantly and it has been a huge success for them.

    People who actually care about the environment, however, might weep at the thought of what might have been achieved for the environment with a more constructive application of the same resources, time, energy and ingenuity as have been put into securing world-wide publicity (for Greenpeace), making law enforcement look like the work of bad guys and martyring some useful idiots.

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  11. OneTrack (3,117 comments) says:

    Sp – “I imagine, not a very pleasant experience. I also imagine Russia would be one of the worst places to find yourself incarcerated, along with North Korea, Myanmar, El Salvador and China.

    Strangely?, the ideology and goals of the arrested people is most closely represented in those countries. They should feel right at home.

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  12. Peter (1,713 comments) says:

    Meh

    Yawn

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  13. Longknives (4,767 comments) says:

    I’d like to hear more about the drugs all these ‘Rent a Mob’ Protesters were carrying on board..
    My family just found out an elderly relative had been donating to them for several years (she had been taken advantage of due to alzheimers/old age)
    It sickens me to think that this money has been financing a bunch of hippies to shoot up.
    Do these lefty scum have no morals?

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  14. Paulus (2,633 comments) says:

    Greenpeace HQ in Amsterdam knew exactly what they were doing, and the consequences.

    They need the international public relations exercise to raise more money from mugs.

    They knew if they took on Russia the media would be on their side against the nasty Putin.

    Like the Peter Bethune episode they do not care a damn for their followers.

    It is the PR that counts.

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  15. davidp (3,581 comments) says:

    The old story: Drilling, the environment, polar bears.

    The new story: Free the Greenpeace 30.

    What Green wouldn’t want to be the center of attention? The environment comes a distant second to “look at me, aren’t I heroic!!!”

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  16. Reid (16,514 comments) says:

    I’d like to hear more about the drugs all these ‘Rent a Mob’ Protesters were carrying on board..

    FWIW the Greenpeace spokesperson on RadioNZ yesterday made the following points:
    – they have a strict policy about no recreational drugs on board vessels
    – the Russians are saying they found “dual-use” drug-taking equipment
    – they have doctors on board and they have medical drugs in a safe in the ship’s sick bay, which the Russians broke into

    Draw your own conclusions.

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  17. Interested (23 comments) says:

    Now this makes more sense than anything else I have read about Greenpeace.

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  18. bhudson (4,740 comments) says:

    Draw your own conclusions.

    The illuminati set them up.

    And the drugs were planted by shape shifting alien lizard men.

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  19. Chicken Little (741 comments) says:

    Polar bears – Massive increase in numbers since their low point in the 60’s

    Global warming – No statistical change in 17 years ( despite C02 increase, WUWT? )

    Whales – Pretty well every study showing increasing numbers.

    This is about shutting down oil/industry – not the environment.

    I’m sure Greenpeace used a row boat to get there, otherwise hypocrisy would rule, wouldn’t it?

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  20. dime (9,980 comments) says:

    I think they purposely had people on board from 18 different countries.. Thinking 18 countries would apply a ton of pressure on Russia and they would buckle…

    To that I say lmao

    Enjoy your long stretch hippies.

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  21. Reid (16,514 comments) says:

    The illuminati set them up.

    Unlikely, because Putin is currently standing against the illuminati via his stance on Syria, so why would they do him a favour like that?

    And shape-shifting lizard people can’t teleport, they can only adopt a human appearance, so I’m afraid your second theory doesn’t hold water either.

    Try again.

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  22. thor42 (971 comments) says:

    Agreed, C.L.
    These people are little more than religious fanatics, their religion being “Greenism”.

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  23. tvb (4,431 comments) says:

    You want to play the the devil then the devil will play with you. I hope they rot for years in one of Putin’s gulags in Siberia.

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  24. backster (2,174 comments) says:

    Well when they come out of the salt mines they are going to be able to speak even more authoritatively on Artic Ice melt and global warming.

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  25. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    backster, back in the day they would have been gainfully employed [for the first time in their lives] in Siberia and be praying for AGW to actually be a real thing.

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  26. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    Notice how Griff has gone missing since the arrests :)

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  27. Longknives (4,767 comments) says:

    Reid- You honestly, hand on your heart, believe there are no drugs on that Greenpeace vessel??
    Did you ever go down to the ‘Occupy’ protest in Aotea Square? The air was so bloody thick with Cannabis you could hardly breathe..And when they finally left the council had to pick up hundreds of used needles.
    It’s what protesters do- Because those oppressive drug laws are just ‘the man holding us down’ you know??

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  28. jaba (2,143 comments) says:

    the reason I don’t think these muppets took illegal drugs on board is that they knew that such a stupid act would be discovered and it would undermine their cause.
    Now, after saying that, these people maybe intelligent but they are fkg stupid

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  29. Reid (16,514 comments) says:

    Reid- You honestly, hand on your heart, believe there are no drugs on that Greenpeace vessel??

    Longknives sadly you along with 5 to 6 other people appear to have comprehension problems.

    My first word on that post was FWIW.

    Then I put in some facts about what the Gweenpeace spokesman said. As in, I didn’t say them, she did. (And I deliberately tried to piss her off by calling her a spokesman but I realise that’s a subtlety.)

    My last sentence on that post was: “draw your own conclusions.”

    So nowhere in that post did I offer an opinion on the veracity or otherwise of the claims. Did I.

    Since you ask though my opinion is that this drugs allegation is a media setup. Russia would have to be extraordinarily stupid to attempt a prosecution for drugs if they were simply something like medical heroin. I mean such an attempt would simply discredit the entire prosecution in the eyes of the world, doesn’t it. And thinking back to how they covered the Pussy Riot incident, I see the same fingerprints on this little meme, and for the same reasons.

    Russia under Putin refuses to play the Western World’s silly little pro-gay feminist memes and the global coverage of the Pussy Riot incident was a typical media ploy to discredit it in the eyes of the world. I put this allegation in the same basket.

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  30. JMS (331 comments) says:

    Kea (8,400) Says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 7:42 am

    The Russians have also found drugs aboard the activist ship and are prosecuting for that as well. Russia has suffered more than enough due to socialism and knows how to deal with communists.

    Russia is run by ex communists, and those communists were anything but greenies.
    Those greenpeace idiots got what they deserved, but re the drugs I wouldn’t believe a thing the Russians say.

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  31. JMS (331 comments) says:

    Longknives (3,087) Says:
    October 12th, 2013 at 11:16 am

    Reid- You honestly, hand on your heart, believe there are no drugs on that Greenpeace vessel??
    Did you ever go down to the ‘Occupy’ protest in Aotea Square? The air was so bloody thick with Cannabis you could hardly breathe..And when they finally left the council had to pick up hundreds of used needles.
    It’s what protesters do- Because those oppressive drug laws are just ‘the man holding us down’ you know??

    You could hardly breathe?
    Gee, you must have lived a sheltered life!

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  32. adze (2,126 comments) says:

    A few points:

    1. I imagine that Russia is keen to make an example of this lot as part of its overall strategy to stake a claim on Arctic territories.
    2. Greenpeace of course expected to get arrested, they couldn’t otherwise in boarding another sovereign vessel.
    3. The drugs thing is bogus I expect, probably just morphine with packaged hypodermic needles; see # 1 (Russia trying to make them look worse) and # 3 (Greenpeace wouldn’t be stupid enough to have smack on board if they expected to be arrested).
    4. Greenpeace sure has lots of money for marketing. Seen all those expensive-looking bus shelter billboards trying to garner sympathy for their activists?

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  33. BigFish (132 comments) says:

    Russia seldom bows to public pressure.
    If you’re going to protest, be prepared to sit in a Gulag somewhere.

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