Why dictators shouldn’t drink!

December 27th, 2013 at 12:00 pm by David Farrar

The Herald reported:

North Korean dictator Kim Jong-Un was reportedly “very drunk” when he gave the order that a pair of aides close to his executed uncle should be killed.

The North Korean dictator ordered troops to round-up hundreds of relatives and associates of Jang Song-Thaek, who was shot On December 12 after being accused of plotting to overthrow the government.

The leader ordered the executions after they did not hand business to the military – a move which left the dictator ‘upset’, according to reports in the Japanese media.

The aides have been named as Ri Ryong-ha, the first deputy director of the administrative department of the state’s ruling Workers’ Party, and Jang Su-gil, a deputy director in the same department.

The pair are believed to have joined the grim toll of Jang’s aides – eight are believed to have been executed since the purge, Yomiuri Shimbun added.

I recall Gareth Morgan saying:

“The country is beautiful,” Gareth said. “The country is just fantastic, the farms are perfect. They have no pollution.”

“Frankly I don’t see the DPRK regime through any different lens than I see China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Malaysia – even Singapore at times – authoritarian regimes all of them,” he added.

Maybe Gareth and Dennis Rodman could go into business together, based on their shared appreciation of the beauty of fantastic ?

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34 Responses to “Why dictators shouldn’t drink!”

  1. metcalph (1,433 comments) says:

    It’s a bit more complicated than that.

    He ordered the business handed over to the military.

    When the military came to take it over, they were told to fuck off as the people would only take orders from Jang.

    The military then used force. Unfortunately for them, they were beaten up (inferior troops in number and quality) and told once again to fuck off. One soldier was killed.

    Kim Jong-Un then orders much bigger troops to enforce his will.

    The two aides who were telling the military to fuck off were executed with a firing squad of antiaircraft guns. This is probably where Kim Jong-Un was drunk.

    Jang was then executed for the impertinence of his aides.

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  2. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    When you have millions starving a night on the piss and killing a few relatives is small beer.

    And Garth perhaps you might have only seen a couple of farms for “visitors” , just asking.

    DPF
    When are you Wellington people going to come out and say publicly that Gareth Morgan is a dick and has zero relevance to anything happening in New Zealand today ?or are there instructions to pussyfoot around the clown

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  3. stephieboy (3,367 comments) says:

    Gareth Morgan reminds me of how seductive authoritarian regimes can be to travelers who often have only avery superficial knowledge of their inner workings and machinations .
    Am thinking especially of those who travelled to Stalin’s Russia in the 1930s . Most spoke wonderfully of, ” I have seen the future and it works’ ( Bernard Shaw) whilst the Great purges were underway and millions were either being slaughtered or sent to the Gulags.
    Precisely the same phenomena occurred with Mao’s China etc.
    Yes North Korea might indeed have lovely countryside . The Soviet Union as well but there is a lot more than mountains , rolling hills ,streams and plains etc that Mr Morgan seem to suggest.

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  4. kowtow (8,718 comments) says:

    Subject is perhaps too serious to make light of,but in the interests of happy mischief……

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  5. Manolo (14,019 comments) says:

    Too much money, too much stupidity, a perfect description of the clownish Gareth Morgan

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  6. Fletch (6,484 comments) says:

    He also killed his ex-lover, a popular singer.

    She was first identified as Kim Jong-un’s old flame 13 months ago, in July 2012. The poised, coiffed and elegantly dressed companion of North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un was filmed sitting next to him at a concert in Pyongyang, then ascending the stage with him to applaud the performers.

    One month later, she vanished from the scene as abruptly as she had arrived. On Friday came the shocking news that Hyon Song-wol, one of the most popular singers in the reclusive state, had been executed by machine gun.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11117647

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  7. Manolo (14,019 comments) says:

    We need to send the ultimate imbecile, the Rev Don Borrie, NZ-DPRK Society’s Chairman on a one-way research trip.

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  8. Michael (910 comments) says:

    How many hard-leftists in NZ have gleefully promised that “you’ll be first against the wall” when their revolution comes?

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  9. MH (810 comments) says:

    “nth korea has talent show” has had few applicants this year…Gangnam style killings still on the increase The Nth Korean impersonator doing the dance is actually shown leaping to avoid bullets from the military judges.

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  10. peterwn (3,298 comments) says:

    In 1984 a snap election in NZ was called by someone who allegedly had one or two too many. I referred to it to my workmates at the time as a ‘fail-safe’ political system.

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  11. alwyn (435 comments) says:

    stephieboy @ 12.19am
    Sorry but the quote about “have seen the future” wasn’t by George Bernard Shaw.
    That statement was by the US reporter Lincoln Steffens who visited the USSR in 1919.

    In terms of needing to be drunk to order the odd murder we have of course the counter-example of Adolf Hitler.
    He was a teetotaller but that didn’t stop him being responsible for millions of murders.
    Kim Jong-Un has a long way to go before he gets into Hitler’s class.

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  12. MH (810 comments) says:

    Kims enlightend family democidal killings comes to well over 1 million since 1951

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  13. iMP (2,416 comments) says:

    Perhaps the best riposté to Morgan and Rodman is paraplegic Charles Krauthammer in his new book, discussing North Korea…”stunning desolation and ugliness, both spiritual and material.”

    http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2013/12/27/why-im-involved-in-politics-quote-of-the-day/

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  14. stephieboy (3,367 comments) says:

    alwyn your right re quote. My mistake but here is Shaw’s effusive and glowing account of his trip to the Soviet Union,

    http://www.garethjones.org/soviet_articles/bernard_shaw.htm

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  15. Johnboy (16,980 comments) says:

    Thank goodness Sir Robert wasn’t empowered to shoot folks! :)

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  16. Johnboy (16,980 comments) says:

    Course just as well that Gareth vacated GMK Kiwisaver when he did otherwise we may be looking for some anti-aircraft guns! :)

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  17. Johnboy (16,980 comments) says:

    Looking at Kims haircut a sensible man could understand why he wanted to kill all his family and their hairdressers! :)

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  18. peterwn (3,298 comments) says:

    Johnboy – he could do the next best think – kill careers. Victims included Colin Moyle, ‘Diamond’ Jim (his brief successor as National leader), Sue Wood (former National Party president), Justice Mahon (Erebus inquiry), etc, etc

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  19. burt (8,301 comments) says:

    peterwn

    The Muldoon snap election was referred to as ‘Drunk in charge of a country’.

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  20. Johnboy (16,980 comments) says:

    Quite right burt…I’ve given you two for that! :)

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  21. Reid (16,625 comments) says:

    The two aides who were telling the military to fuck off were executed with a firing squad of antiaircraft guns.

    When Jong Un executed his former lover along with the orchestra and sent their families off to the camps, I did some research and discovered they had executed a senior general who wasn’t sufficiently grief stricken over Jong Il, by making him stand on the spot where they’d zeroed in a couple of mortars.

    In other words, they officially choose bizarre ways of killing humans which means to me the entire administration gives no truk toward civilised actions but rather is in fact a genuine gangster regime with no limits just like Stalin’s was and just like Hitler’s was and just like Pol Pot’s was. Which has a lot of relevance to us or more particularly to Japan by virtue of the fact they have nukes and delivery systems.

    Sure. The people at the top of every single nation including ours are always a pack of implacably ruthless wolves and I’m not [just] talking about politicians I’m also talking about the people at the top who advise them. You can if you wish chose to hallucinate that the people who you see on telly aren’t really like that at all but I’m afraid history proves you incorrect and it will continue to prove you incorrect unless you drop that hallucination.

    But it’s a serious thing, to have an unstable bastard like Jong Un in charge of what he’s in charge of. Not that I ever believe a word of what the MSM ever says.

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  22. Harriet (5,085 comments) says:

    “…..DPF
    When are you Wellington people going to come out and say publicly that Gareth Morgan is a dick and has zero relevance to anything happening in New Zealand today ?or are there instructions to pussyfoot around the clown….”

    No…….there are orders!

    All Wellingtonians are of the big government mindset. It’s their livelyhood. Anyone who opposes that is shot down in public.

    ‘Family’ as Kim Jong-Un calls it! :cool:

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  23. MH (810 comments) says:

    Sgt Rob Muldoon probably did enough shooting at a few jerries in his early life,and got caned for Mugabe shooting in the jungle comment. Jack Marshall was one of his CO’s.

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  24. hj (7,059 comments) says:

    I recall Gareth Morgan saying:

    The price of housing remains at historical highs relative to household income, despite the housing doldrums of the last 5 years. The over-investment in housing that we’ve sponsored has come at a high price: diversion of capital away from deployment in industry and income and employment and instead into an asset class where the predominant objective of investment has been capital gain. Of course capital gain is not guaranteed but if there exist sufficient incentives for people to invest here rather than elsewhere, then it will materialise, in time. The reasons have historically been twofold:

    1. A directive to banks from our Reserve Bank to favour lending on mortgage to other forms of lending – this is effected by the lower risk weightings it deems residential mortgages deserve compared to other lending types.

    2. A tax break on housing to the extent that capital gains ensue and are not taxed.

    Of course these two conspire to comprise a self-fulfilling outcome of capital gains. The lending distortion sponsored by the Reserve Bank ensures there’s more credit available for this form of investment than others, so people can get into this activity more easily than, say, funding a business. And the tax break increases the effective return so of course compared to other investments this will make housing a more attractive alternative. So lubricated with the credit availability we all pile into the asset in unison and drive up its price. Hardly rocket science. The point is of course though that this is not a demand that’s driven in any way by economic fundamentals such as the demand for shelter – it’s purely speculative and totally contrived by the regulatory and taxation framework. It would be fine if there weren’t an opportunity cost – a decided lack of investment in businesses that generate most income and employment.

    http://www.gmi.co.nz/news/1360/house-prices-a-cancer-for-the-economy.aspx

    He made the rosy statements about North Korea after being allowed to ride through. In that context and in the light of earlier statements I don’t think you have much mud to throw at him.

    North Korea announces ‘all year round’ tourism plans That would be a laugh :lol:

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  25. nasska (11,759 comments) says:

    It could have been worse. :)

    Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/i24wxjf19nl1m0m/Pissed.jpg

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  26. Shazzadude (531 comments) says:

    ““The country is beautiful,” Gareth said. “The country is just fantastic, the farms are perfect. They have no pollution.”

    “Frankly I don’t see the DPRK regime through any different lens than I see China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Malaysia – even Singapore at times – authoritarian regimes all of them,” he added.”

    I realise you have it in for Gareth Morgan based on you needing to mention him every time you make a North Korean-related post, but which part of the above conflicts with this article?

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  27. Reid (16,625 comments) says:

    which part of the above conflicts with this article

    You mean he omitted the US?

    Good spotting.

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  28. peterwn (3,298 comments) says:

    burt – I was going to say ‘drunk in charge’ but I chickened out and changed it to ‘one or two too many’.

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  29. Johnboy (16,980 comments) says:

    His balanced fund has made 13.6% this year without being exposed to the NZX!

    Gareth can’t be all bad unless you’re a cat! :)

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  30. Odakyu-sen (728 comments) says:

    The North Koreans really need to implement their version of the Magna Carta. This king thing with unbridled power is getting out of hand.

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  31. ChardonnayGuy (1,209 comments) says:

    Kim Jung Un’s brothers Kim Jung Oo, Kim Jung Ee and Kim Jung Ur may be next ;)

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  32. wikiriwhis business (4,114 comments) says:

    ‘The North Koreans really need to implement their version of the Magna Carta.’

    The Magna Carta obviously stopped a revolution as big as the French otherwise the king would not have been interested.

    Was the American revolution a success ? On the day it was signed King George the third claimed in his diary ‘on this day nothing important happened’.

    As for the Magna Carta who is to say Robin Hood and his men had nothing to do with it.

    Historical records showed he existed and also some of his men. He probably wasn’t the archer he has been romanticised as.

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  33. Damien Grant (2 comments) says:

    Gareth Morgan was not defending North Korea. He was describing what he saw.

    Just because what he saw does not confirm to our ideas of North Korea makes no difference.

    Facts are facts. We should take account of the evidence Morgan brought to light and not keep shooting Morgan for presenting us with facts we do not like.

    Perhaps parts of North Korea are pleasant, relative at least to the massive gulag we have created in our minds.

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  34. Flyingkiwi9 (54 comments) says:

    “Frankly I don’t see the DPRK regime through any different lens than I see China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Malaysia – even Singapore at times – authoritarian regimes all of them,” he added.

    Probably a pretty fair representation for most of those countries. I’m sure countries like China and Russia happily execute at will of the government just its trendy to expose North Korea because we all hate the place.

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