Office romances

January 12th, 2014 at 8:32 am by David Farrar

The HoS reports:

 

Companies are cracking down on office romances, with bosses increasingly being asked to sign contracts promising not to have sex with staff – or if they do, they must declare the liaison to avoid conflicts.

 

Air New Zealand confirmed it has introduced a formal code for its 80 senior executives. Another company has banned senior staff from sexual relationships with co-workers, even if both parties are single. 

That reminds me of the policy I drew up many years ago for Curia, soon after we established. It basically said we don’t care who you sleep with so long as it doesn’t interfere with the job, with the exception of two named staffers. The joke, being they were brother and sister.

Another amusing incident was when one of my managers confessed to me at a staff party that she had a big crush on one of the staff, but she couldn’t do anything about it, as he reported to her. She was delighted when I said that actually they could go out, so long as I’m aware of the relationship and hence if ever there were employment issues, I’d handle them. They, umm, got together that night and have been together for around two years now!

Many years ago I did work for an organisation there the CEO and the 2ic were having a secret relationship (both were single) and it did cause problems as you felt reluctant to talk to the CEO about issues with the 2ic, knowing they were together (we discovered the relationship through their 3 am mobile phone calls to each other!).

Generally it is silly to try and ban workplace romances, but if they involve direct reports that can cause problems. The key is to have a policy that discloses them, so decisions can be taken on a case by case basis.

Also reminds me of how many years ago a friend of mine was hauled before a disciplinary committee of partners in her accounting/law firm for her relationships with clients. I jokingly suggested to her that she says that if it is inappropriate for a lawyer to sleep with a client, then she expects them to also crack down on partners sleeping with their secretaries. By pure coincidence, it turns out the chair of the disciplinary committee was sleeping with his secretary, and they took no action as they thought she knew about the affair. In fact it was just a lucky guess that at least one of them would be :-)

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31 Responses to “Office romances”

  1. Nostradamus (2,770 comments) says:

    Soon to be known as the Len Brown clause? :)

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  2. tvb (3,941 comments) says:

    They cannot be avoided unfortunately. But they are a damn nuisance when they do happen especially when issues regarding the relationship spill into the work environment. Leave your shit at home is my rule. And disclosure of the relationship as well. A drunken bonk after some staff drinks can be forgiven. But I much prefer people keep the private lives separate from work and generally have a life that does not included work colleagues. I simply loathe gossip getting into the work environment and drinkies after work provide fuel for that to happen.

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  3. Viking2 (10,723 comments) says:

    The day this subject will be interesting will be the day that the elected and apopointed representatives of the NZ taxpayers are required to publicly announce their dalliances either casual or longterm.

    But of course they don’t answer to employment contracts or law so it ain’t never going to be so.

    Just more control freak behavoir.

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  4. eszett (2,271 comments) says:

    Also reminds me of how many years ago a friend of mine was hauled before a disciplinary committee of partners in her accounting/law firm for her relationships with clients.

    Did this female lawyer then move to Hong Kong by any chance? ;-)

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  5. tvb (3,941 comments) says:

    I mean eir should be disclosure of the relationship. But I think there is a much better work environment when people treat others with courtesy and then go home a have a private life. Mixing work and private life provides fuel for work gossip and I despise that. I never mix with work colleagues after work, never attend staff functions and discourage gossip. I do have friends as work colleagues but only one or two and I respect their privacy as they do mine.

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  6. Viking2 (10,723 comments) says:

    What a bunch of softcocks.
    Having spent lots of years employing and working in factories with large staff’s the best cure is having a no fear workplace. For god’s sake people soon work out who is screwing who.

    Plenty of lifelong marriages start out that way.

    No secrets is so much easier.

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  7. gravedodger (1,426 comments) says:

    I have slept with people in motels, hotels, at home, other homes, huts and tents and often it did not include rooting.

    What is with people who continually root arond and call it sleeping.

    Hand on heart I have rooted drunk, sober, happy, naughty, daring, indoors, outdoors, planned and unplanned but never in over 50 years and counting have I been “ASLEEP”.

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  8. rouppe (852 comments) says:

    How did you know about the 3am phone calls on their mobiles?

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  9. Gulag1917 (425 comments) says:

    Corporate fascism.

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  10. flash2846 (132 comments) says:

    Going against 10,000 years of evolution; probably best left alone I think.

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  11. pcplod (18 comments) says:

    Bugga! I just hired a hot receptionist.

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  12. Mobile Michael (365 comments) says:

    Well, you must all work in hotbeds of hottie action if you consider this worthy of comment. I’m yet to discover any workmate worth risking my career over.

    However, one night our team did do the who would you gay for and then who is your relationship hallpass game – and while Hollywood provided most hallpasses, one guy nominated the big bosses PA.

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  13. Viking2 (10,723 comments) says:

    pcplod (3 comments) says:
    January 12th, 2014 at 11:36 am

    Bugga! I just hired a hot receptionist.
    ==========
    Like all good ornaments, needs screwing on the desk.

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  14. igm (864 comments) says:

    Did Len Brown, with help from his left-wing mates at APN/Labour headquarters wrote the contract?

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  15. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,668 comments) says:

    And make her fortune?

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  16. gazzmaniac (2,269 comments) says:

    we don’t care who you sleep with so long as it doesn’t interfere with the job, with the exception of two named staffers. The joke, being they were brother and sister.

    Heh.

    I also recall the draft which had a sentence along the lines of “you may ask someone out once, and maybe a second time, however a third, fourth, or fifth time may constitute harassment”

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  17. lolitasbrother (346 comments) says:

    I was saying to this office girl I know you want to fuck me hard, she said yes

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  18. Left Right and Centre (2,394 comments) says:

    I hear you’ve got to watch the cockies in Eketahuna having the old orifice office relationship with their ‘employees’.

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  19. Left Right and Centre (2,394 comments) says:

    Hand on heart I have rooted drunk, sober, happy, naughty, daring, indoors, outdoors, planned and unplanned but never in over 50 years and counting have I been “ASLEEP”.

    Well I fell asleep while you rooted me senseless with that banal drivel.

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  20. Left Right and Centre (2,394 comments) says:

    Going against 10,000 years of evolution; probably best left alone I think.

    Why did you pick 10 000 years exactly ? Would you like to tell everyone about human social patterns and relationships going back thousands of years ?

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  21. flash2846 (132 comments) says:

    Seriously Left Right and Centre? You want to piss around debating this?
    Thought about posting in The Standard?

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  22. Left Right and Centre (2,394 comments) says:

    What the fuck ? What’s The Standard got to do with anything ? You’d know more about it than I would. I’d never heard of the fucking standard until I started hanging out on KB.

    What does that mean – going against 10 000 years of evolution ?

    So every time someone doesn’t have an affair when they might like to – they’re fighting ‘evolution’. In times gone by they might just have fucked them. What’s your fucking point dick ?

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  23. flash2846 (132 comments) says:

    Absolute cowardice the way you ‘fight’ on line Left Right and Centre. Wet your pants a lot do you? Pathetic.

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  24. Left Right and Centre (2,394 comments) says:

    You’ve made a comment – it’s waffly bullshit – so the answer of course is to talk more shit unrelated to the comment. That’s the definition of pathetic mate. What’s the problem, are you too fucking stupid to be here ?

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  25. Left Right and Centre (2,394 comments) says:

    Evolution started off billions of years ago – not 10 000 – hello ? The evolution of humans started millions of years ago after splitting off from their last common ancestor. Not 10 000.

    I don’t know what’s cowardly or pathetic about pointing out simple concepts held by the world’s scientists.

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  26. Left Right and Centre (2,394 comments) says:

    Oh yeah – flash2846 has got multiple Kiwiblog accounts by the way.

    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/11/hooton_vs_willie_and_jt.html#comment-1231283

    You’ll find two more of them on this link. That’s fucking truly pathetic if you ask me. What a fucking loser. Using multiple accounts to add votes. What a total internet noddy twat lowlife retard.

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  27. Left Right and Centre (2,394 comments) says:

    You’re gonna have to red tick a lot of comments flash – I’m going to make you work for it cunt.

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  28. Left Right and Centre (2,394 comments) says:

    You’re gonna have to red tick a lot of comments flash – I’m going to make you work for it cunt.

    [DPF: 50 demerits]

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  29. Left Right and Centre (2,394 comments) says:

    Come on cunt – see if you can get the red tick count up to 30. Got that many extra user accounts faggot ?

    [DPF: 50 demerits]

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  30. RichardX (292 comments) says:

    That was quite the meltdown

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  31. ManuT (33 comments) says:

    A meltdown indeed Richard – is this guy for real?

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