Migrants increase our income

February 10th, 2014 at 4:00 pm by David Farrar

report:

A new Insight from the New Zealand Institute of Economic Research (NZIER) shows that increasing net would lift incomes not just for immigrants but for the native population.
An additional 40,000 people a year for 10 years increases GDP per capita by a chunky $410 a year.

“A more ambitious population policy is needed to increase New Zealand’s population.” said Dr Kirdan Lees, Senior Economist at NZIER. “New Zealand’s point-based immigration framework gets the mix of migrants required about right. But we need to do more to keep lifting the number of migrants that come.”

Almost one-in-four New Zealanders are born overseas but the current policy of 45,000 to 50,000 migrants a year is too low and very arbitrary – bringing in more migrants would lift incomes.
Immigrants provide firms with new skillsets, allowing firms to access new markets, new ideas and new products. A deeper population base also helps firms to get big and offset initial start-up or fixed costs that can be high. But our work shows that the impact on incomes outweighs the inflationary impacts of migration.

International studies also point to positive effects of immigration.

“So let’s grow for it and plan to entice more migrants.”

I am a supporter of more migration. However we need to make sure our infrastructure is resourced enough to cope with the population growth. Also we need to make sure that the rate of migration isn’t so large that we end up with groups of migrants who do not integrate into NZ. But with those caveats, the benefits of migration are considerable.

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56 Responses to “Migrants increase our income”

  1. Dean Papa (707 comments) says:

    Basic math isn’t it? We only let in the rich pricks, hence average income will be raised.

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  2. Nigel Kearney (864 comments) says:

    The points system favours people who are young and well educated. Which means we get a lifetime of work out of them and someone else paid for their education. There’s also a language test. So it’s a very good deal for us.

    The harder issues are how to get more builders and plumbers without ending up with people we don’t want, and the issue of people being allowed to bring in unproductive relatives.

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  3. CJPhoto (213 comments) says:

    Anything that can be done to direct them to the regions also have to be beneficial rather than having them all settle in Auckland.

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  4. iMP (2,231 comments) says:

    As well as migrants we need business investment, so frankly, I’d be hard on this. Only migrants who speak english or are prepared to learn, and with money to start or invest in new enterprises. We have vast tracts of empty space in NZ, and small rural hamlets shriveling up. Let’s refill these once thriving communities with new people. But I favour bonding immigrants to provincial or rural areas.

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  5. Ed Snack (1,733 comments) says:

    iMP, how to propose to refill those shrivelling hamlets ? People moved out because there’s no longer any work in small rural towns, and little infrastructure. Ain’t going to happen, at least not easily. For young people it’s too boring and isolated, and for older people no support, all that there is to attract people is cheap housing.

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  6. Harriet (4,497 comments) says:

    “…..An additional 40,000 people a year for 10 years increases GDP per capita by a chunky $410 a year….”

    .$410 per capita? That’s it?

    So if we let in 400,000 per year then you get a piss-ant $4000 per capita?

    It’s hardly fucken worth it for all the upheaval.

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  7. Steve (North Shore) (4,490 comments) says:

    Please don’t tell the Moaris about this – they may want to start working

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  8. nasska (10,611 comments) says:

    ….”Please don’t tell the Moaris about this – they may want to start working”….

    They’ll be working overtime but that will be on their treaty claims. The Pakeha are soft guilt ridden targets but the chances of full & final settlements in perpetuity are diminishing with each new wave of Asian immigration.

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  9. iMP (2,231 comments) says:

    Ed Shack, the idea is immigrant investment creates new enterprises in these places. Ie, like the wine industry (Dalmatians) or the Sphagnum Moss industry (Chinese) etc. all started by immigrants to NZ.

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  10. sustainablenz (4 comments) says:

    $410 per capita is less than 1% of GDP! Surely there are more creative ways to increase GDP without the associated social and environmental costs that come with such rapid population growth. Immigration has many benefits, yet to instrumentalise it for the sole purpose of economic growth seems somewhat wrong.

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  11. Steve (North Shore) (4,490 comments) says:

    Nasska, I was waiting for someone to tell me that Moari are not immigrants – no bites yet

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  12. Tom Jackson (2,458 comments) says:

    All immigrants should be subject to one test, and one test only.

    A driving test.

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  13. tvb (4,193 comments) says:

    But we need the right kind of migrants which we seem to be doing. We are avoiding young Pakistani men with that dreadful religion for instance. Australia has let them in. Now Australia has a significant number of persons who are Australian passport holders who are in Syria of all places fighting for Al Qaeda. Now they are looking at ways to cancel the Australian passports for those who fight in such wars and join terrorist organisations. I trust we will also pass similar measures if Australia does, otherwise this lot will come to NZ.

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  14. Manolo (13,320 comments) says:

    Please don’t tell the Maoris about this – they may want to start working

    You can safely bet that hell will freeze over first.

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  15. Sadu (128 comments) says:

    Can’t say I want NZ to be teeming with immigrants. Is it so much to ask that we remain a small country?

    I have no problem with people moving here if they aren’t fuckwits, speak english and have something to offer, but I’m against actively looking to get more people living here so we can compete with China on GDP.

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  16. Rex Widerstrom (5,253 comments) says:

    iMP is right, though I’m not sure how we’d do it… bonding certain immigrants with particular skills to a deal where they must live an work outside of a major city would help. Doctors and nurses, for instance, are needed in the regions (though don’t make the same mistake as Australia – check their degrees are real and their references stand up). But there are other jobs that can be done from anywhere – anything from tech support to share broking. That population would then make some of the services that have closed, and driven older NZers away, viable again.

    If we simply crowd immigrants into our cities and suburbs not only will the infrastructure not keep up but we’ll create ghettos as has happened in places like Naenae and Taita (and no doubt others I haven’t seen).

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  17. kowtow (7,581 comments) says:

    Yeah but the SIS budget will have to be boosted and Internal Affairs,so they can cancel jihadi’s passports.

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  18. thor42 (900 comments) says:

    I agree with kowtow.

    You *can’t* just open the immigration floodgates and hope that everything will be ok – it *won’t* be. The UK and most of Europe shows that (with the flood of millions of Muslim immigrants there). Increased welfare *and* crime costs.

    The statement “migrants increase our income” is BS. Look at any country with a huge influx of immigrants – Australia, the UK, Sweden, France. They have had hundreds of thousands of Muslims arriving, most of whom will be on welfare. That will *decrease* the income of those countries as taxes are jacked up to pay for the welfare costs (and the extra crime).

    I will bet you that the NZIER didn’t even consider the massive cost of Muslim immigration in its calculations.

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  19. deadrightkev (273 comments) says:

    The biggest problem with immigrants is that their English is often below an acceptable standard.

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  20. wiseowl (751 comments) says:

    The very thing that makes NZ a great place is its small population and plenty of open space.

    Let’s just turn it into another mess like the UK , Europe India and anywhere else .

    The NZIER are only thinking in theoretical and financial terms but I am thinking in terms of the future and my kids future.
    Lets keep the place a paradise and be different.

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  21. thor42 (900 comments) says:

    @wiseowl – “The very thing that makes NZ a great place is its small population and plenty of open space.”

    Agreed! We are also one of the very few places left in the Western world with almost complete freedom of speech. Australia is about to get it back again (when they scrap their stupid “hate speech” laws that are only *ever* used to persecute those warning against Islam).

    As the new Attorney-General there says –
    “You cannot have a situation in a liberal democracy in which the expression of an opinion is rendered unlawful because somebody else finds it offensive or insulting.”
    - George Brandis, Attorney-General of Australia.

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  22. Viking2 (11,125 comments) says:

    How’s about we just make it viable for our current residents to remain. If we slowed to drain to Aussie that’s worth 40,000 a year for the last 15 years. We breed em, feed em, educate em and them we chase them out, leaving the poor bloody taxpayer who doesn’t want to leave to repeat the process again and again.

    No fucking wonder we are broke.

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  23. big bruv (13,210 comments) says:

    More Migrants…………….NO Refugees!

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  24. big bruv (13,210 comments) says:

    “The biggest problem with immigrants is that their English is often below an acceptable standard.”

    Don’t worry about that. If the stinking Greens get their way all Immigrants will have to learn Maori (as will the rest of us)

    We will have thousands of bilingual immigrants and most of them will still not be able to speak English.

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  25. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    I mean how else do replace all the skilled hard working kiwis who voted with their feet
    got sick of being threatened to be killed again and again and again by “migrants” and left

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  26. EAD (574 comments) says:

    The old “migrants make us richer” canard getting pulled out to whack us over the head in case the Peons are getting worried about the rapid and profound societal changes that are occurring right before our very eyes.

    Let’s get this straight – size has NOTHING to do with how wealthy a country is. If that were the case, Indonesia, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nigeria & India would be amongst the Worlds Wealthiest countries and Liechtenstein, Singapore, Luxembourg and Switzerland would be dirt poor.

    Economic success has everything to do the rule of law, lack of bureaucracy, an educated workforce, a high level of savings, low taxation and a sound monetary/fiscal policy.

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  27. Ross Nixon (607 comments) says:

    I (for one) am grateful for a migrant that I met today. I’m sitting here with several bandages on. He was my surgeon.

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  28. big bruv (13,210 comments) says:

    Well said Ross. Without South African and Sri Lankan immigration our medical system would fall over.

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  29. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    I for one am grateful now that I am a migrant in another country
    in NZ migrants used to threaten to kill me quite regularly

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  30. Steve (North Shore) (4,490 comments) says:

    Manolo,
    I see you corrected my spelling @ 5.42pm. (blockquote as well) Thanks for that.
    Moari will thank you as well

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  31. wiseowl (751 comments) says:

    EAD.
    But these academics,obviously well qualified , at the NZIER , surely they know best?

    No, you nailed it.
    We need to stop kowtowing (sorry kowtow) to the faceless bureaucrats that spew out this BS.

    Any person could come up with the revelations these clowns have.
    It’s much harder to stand up for principles and sovereignty in this day and age. You just get accused of racism,fascism, gay bashing,xenophobia etc until you collapse into submission.

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  32. Sam A (18 comments) says:

    If we’re going to sustain the standard of living we’re used to, including caring for our old people, giving our kids a world class education, and looking after the environment properly, we won’t be able to do it just by racking up more debt. One of the many reasons immigration is great for this country is the scale of the cash transfers that occur when our immigration goes up – just have a look at the data from the early 2000′s for evidence of that.
    Another reason, of course, is that it might help to relieve us of our national nimbyism, which ranks alongside tall poppy cutting as one of our less desirable national characteristics.

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  33. HC (152 comments) says:

    We were promised this in the early 1990s and so, and I am still waiting for the many “benefits” we were promised. Boosting economic activity by simply increasing population is one of the most primitive and stupid economic recipes there are. Those that recommend this often fail to accept, that the new migrants will also get old, sick, disabled, unemployed for times, and need additional infrastructure and resources. More schools, hospitals, roads, public offices, power supply, water supply, more medical services, more buses and so it goes, that is the logical consequence.

    With the Proposed Auckland Unitary Plan providing for Auckland’s population to grow to 2.5 million by 2040, where is the additional water going to come from, as we are already using more water from the Waikato River.

    This is just more bullshit coming from an institute, that only has the growth of earnings of a few on mind, who may benefit from growing populations.

    Wait until energy resources get scarce, when oil and gas get more expensive, when coal will rise in price again, when the increased use of resources like this by China, India, Brazil and other countries will accelerate the speed at which they become exploited and scarce, and the present populations of many countries will be impossible to feed and provide with necessities. Alternative energy will only replace some of the fossil fuel energy we use and depend on now.

    No thanks, I say, this is just more “snake oil” kind of economics to me, that will not deliver what it promises.

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  34. Johnboy (14,876 comments) says:

    Quite right HC. I’m waiting for that glorious day when robots have taken over all the onerous tasks in the world allowing us humankind to aspire to greater things and spend our spare time in the pursuit of happiness and fulfillment.

    It was predicted in the 1960 encyclopedia my Mummy bought me for my 10th birthday! :)

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  35. KevinH (1,131 comments) says:

    @HC
    The unintended consequence of increased immigration is that our current infrastructure, especially Auckland, is stretched to breaking point. Crowded hospital waiting rooms full of elderly immigrants, WINZ offices full of immigrants seeking benefits especially super, property values 50% above valuation, new schools being built that have high immigrant roles. Who is going to pay for that, you and I.
    I’m not against immigration, we just have to be smarter about who we let in.

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  36. EAD (574 comments) says:

    @ SAM A you are either incredibly naive or deliberately provocative. 99% of people have no problem with immigration whatsoever if it is done in a way that the newcomers can be absorbed and fitted in with daily life. I see first-hand in Europe the social carnage that has been caused by mass forced migration dumping completely disparate people into places where they have little business or means to support themselves. What good does that do? It just drains the state and ultimately the taxpayer supporting the state. It is in place to diminish national character etc.

    Idiots like you bandy words like “nimbyism”, “fascist” to produce an emotional response to attempt to stifle all rational discussion about an extremely serious issue that has the potential to go catastrophically wrong if handled in a wreckless manner.

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  37. Johnboy (14,876 comments) says:

    Or who we start throwing out Kev! :)

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  38. Martin Gibson (226 comments) says:

    We should have grabbed most of the white Zimbabwean refugees when they were going, but white folks fleeing black persecution didn’t fit Helen’s meme for persecuted minorities.

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  39. Chinarugby (83 comments) says:

    More migration – yes please and more of the ‘right’ kind.

    After living overseas for so long and now firmly back in NZ I am happy indeed that I am surrounded (living in AKL CBD) by mostly NZ born kiwis but a healthy mix of migrants to – I count my neighbours from Manchester, London, Shanghai, Indonesia, Perth, Darwin, Johannesburg and as of NZ5 this morning from LAX- AKL one from Kentucky USA.

    These folks – a mixture of mostly families and singles have choices of where they can move to and between them have skills we greatly desire – including a surgeon as commented on above. They chose NZ and I for one welcome them.

    I take it from most comments posted above that most of these places constitute the right kind of migration sources!

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  40. Sam A (18 comments) says:

    I fully agree that we need to get the right people in, and that they need to integrate. There was a NZ study done some years ago which showed that people from the UK, Europe and North America were all making a net economic contribution to this country within about 12 months of arrival. People from other areas including Asia did eventually make a net contribution also, but it took years longer. BTW, you didn’t read fascist from me, or idiot either.

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  41. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    retain power by importing (migrant) voters
    nearly as good as borrowing to bribe voters

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  42. Chinarugby (83 comments) says:

    Ben Dover – your comments today are wierd – better tell IMP you may be a binge drinker!

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  43. Jack5 (4,568 comments) says:

    When the Kiwi guest workers pour back from Australia, then, NZ’s economy will surge, if this thesis is correct.

    Meanwhile, it would be nice to know whether the growth from immigration is just bigger GDP, or bigger GDP per capita.

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  44. hj (6,334 comments) says:

    “Savings Working Group
    January 2011
    “The big adverse gap in productivity between New Zealand and other countries opened up from the 1970s to the early 1990s. The policy choice that increased immigration – given the number of employers increasingly unable to pay First-World wages to the existing population and all the capital requirements that increasing populations involve – looks likely to have worked almost directly against the adjustment New Zealand needed to make and it might have been better off with a lower rate of net immigration. This adjustment would have involved a lower real interest rate (and cost of capital) and a lower real exchange rate, meaning a more favourable environment for raising the low level of productive capital per worker and labour productivity. The low level of capital per worker is a striking symptom of New Zealand’s economic challenge.

    http://www.treasury.govt.nz/publications/reviews-consultation/savingsworkinggroup/pdfs/swg-report-jan11.pdf
    80% of our population growth in the last couple of decades has been the net inflow of non NZ citizens .
    “Among policy and analytical circles in New Zealand there is a pretty high degree of enthusiasm for high levels of immigration. Some of that stems from the insights of literature on increasing returns to scale. Whatever the general global story, the actual productivity track record here in the wake of very strong inward migration is poor. In an Australian context, the Productivity Commission – hardly a hot-bed of xenophobia or populism – concluded that any benefits from migration to Australia were captured by migrants and there were few or no discernible economic benefits to Australians. And that was in a country already rich and successful and with materially higher national saving and domestic investment rates than those in NZ.”
    http://www.treasury.govt.nz/downloads/pdfs/mi-jarrett-comm.pdf

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  45. hj (6,334 comments) says:

    A number of econometric models have indicated that immigration has favourable effects on
    the New Zealand economy. The most influential was that done by Poot, Nana and Philpott
    (1988) who found that immigration accelerates economic growth and reduces unemployment.
    However, such models have been criticised as the results are strongly influenced by the
    assumptions and parameter built in by the model makers (Chapple, Yeabsley, and Gorbey
    1994). The limits of such models were illustrated by Peter (1993) who revealed that
    assumptions regarding economies of scale, labour force participation, spending and
    productivity of migrants are crucial to results. By changing his assumptions to equally
    plausible alternatives, Peter found he could reverse the findings on the benefit of migrants on
    the Australian economy.

    Poot et al.’s (1988) model was based on the assumptions of economies of scale and
    technological change allowing for 1.5% less inputs per unit of output. However, there is little
    evidence that New Zealand’s industries benefit from economies of scale. New Zealand’s
    biggest and most successful industries such as dairying, tourism, fisheries, do not rely on domestic economies of scale. Nor did their model consider any diseconomies of scale such as
    the infrastructural congestion caused by increased population density. This influential
    research is now twenty years old and in that time, the industries most likely to benefit from
    economies of scale ie: manufacturing have gone into decline as more production is located
    off-shore. Globalisation would also imply focusing on off-shore markets is a more logical
    approach of obtaining economies of scale given the size of the international market vis-à-vis
    an expanded domestic market. In this way, globalisation has actually decreased the rationale
    for the free flow of labour for countries like New Zealand.

    2
    DISCUSSION PAPER

    NEW ZEALAND IMMIGRATION POLICY

    Dr Greg Clydesdale (PhD)

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  46. wat dabney (3,655 comments) says:

    Jack5,

    it would be nice to know whether the growth from immigration is just bigger GDP, or bigger GDP per capita.

    “A new Insight from the New Zealand Institute of Economic Research (NZIER) shows that increasing net migration would lift incomes not just for immigrants but for the native population.”

    hj,

    As our go-to man on immigration I feel sure you will repeat the findings of this new study every time you feel the need to wheel out your other dog-eared quotations on the subject; which is about four times a week.

    (Nah, just kidding. I know you will continue to completely misrepresent the argument and the evidence.)

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  47. slijmbal (1,210 comments) says:

    Tom Jackson says

    “All immigrants should be subject to one test, and one test only.

    A driving test.”

    They do and I did. Many other countries just make you swap your original license to get the local one but NZ rules that one has to take the test within a year of arriving. But I wouldn’t really throw stones in this particular glasshouse as Kiwi drivers are awful when measured against comparable developed countries.

    On immigration the IT industry would be decimated without immigration, for instance, which would make a mockery of forcing immigrants out in the sticks. I’ve also employed a lot of IT staff and those with international experience (returning Kiwis or immigrants) tend to be more useful.

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  48. Dean Papa (707 comments) says:

    We need more go-getters, like Dotcom.

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  49. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    Ben Dover – your comments today are wierd – better tell IMP you may be a binge drinker!

    China Rugby don’t you get it do you have to have it explained to you

    retain power by importing (migrant) voters

    It is pretty simple and easy to observe
    Each political ideology favours the demographic they expect to vote for them
    and in return give donations to the party

    nearly as good as borrowing to bribe voters

    Which is practiced the world over

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  50. All_on_Red (1,335 comments) says:

    $410 is bugger all especially up against the inevitable Rates increases we suffer due to pressure on infrastructure. I’ve always wondered whether immigration is that good for a country.
    I see the Swiss have just had a Binding Referendum about reducing and limiting any more immigration to very low levels. It passed with those saying yes being 50.4 % so very close.
    The EU ain’t happy but few in Switzerland seem to care about that.

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  51. Chris2 (754 comments) says:

    Immigration occurs because the people concerned are looking for a better life for themselves. They don’t give a shit about the host country. That’s how its been for thousands of years.

    The overwhelming majority of our immigrants come from countries that are already ruined, and that is what will happen here. Thirty years ago an immigrant would need to have learned English to survive in New Zealand. Not anymore. Now their own communities are so large they can earn a living without the tedious chore of having to learn English.

    Time and again studies have shown that learning to speak the local language in the host country is the single biggest determinant in the immigrant settling and contributing to the country that took them in.

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  52. Chris2 (754 comments) says:

    Forgot to add, because it is topical now, that it was immigrants to NZ that destroyed the rights of New Zealanders living and working in Australia from enjoying ongoing access to health and social welfare if they lost their jobs in Australia.

    The NZ Government was accepting “refugees” that the Australians had already declined as unsuitable. But once we took them in and they were granted Permanent Residence (which was immediately upon their arrival), then they used this new status to enter and settle in Australia.

    It was this back door entry to Australia, via NZ, by these “refugees” whom the Australian Government had already declined, that led to the Australian Government no longer accepting any NZ’ers as Permanent Residents automatically on arrival. So our crappy immigration policy out of step with Australia’s is what now results – no New Zealand-born citizens have the right to PR or health and welfare in Australia because we let immigrants into this country who then went straight onto the country they really wanted residence in – Australia.

    Don’t blame the Australians – blame sucessive NZ Governments for having a short-sighted immigration policy.

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  53. wreck1080 (3,723 comments) says:

    Costs outweigh the benefits in my opinion.

    Otherwise, lets just allow 2 million chinese and another 2 million indians entry tomorrow. Then , I will be the minority ethnic race.

    And, I don’t think that would be much fun.

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  54. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    That is the plan

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  55. gimmeabreak (3 comments) says:

    Chinese people usually make good citizens, but as China becomes more assertive in the Pacific, we may begin to regret having so many of them here. Also, isn’t it racist to suggest that Kiwis are too dumb to work as doctors or scientists? It’s fairly obviously untrue.

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  56. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    Immigration if so Good for the Region and it is heartening to listen to your enthusiasm for it

    So next Earthquake or next time John Key is on the Phone to Israel

    get him to Take as many African Muslims from Israel as you all or “they” agree to

    Australia is about to Battle Economic Conditions similar to the 1930′s great depression
    and Israel to lend a hand, to help them through it is proposing to send as Many African Muslims to Australia
    as it will accept.

    Isn’t that Fantastic news perhaps they can help with bush fires also?

    I think it is great how a Country that promotes Multiculturalism the world over
    has the maturity to put other countries first and allow them to adopt Multiculturalism
    faster and more fully than they do through migration (it is just outstanding)

    So rather than keep all these African Muslims to themselves the Israelis are going to share them with the world

    Australia first so do put your hand up NZ

    So I suggest you Talk to John Key and take as many as you can especially in the suburbs you live in

    Israels generosity in this matter has to be applauded and I am sure you are all disappointed that NZ
    missed out again (but I am sure if Aus does not take all of them you will be approached)

    http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Danny-Danon-Send-African-migrants-to-Australia

    Likud MK and Australian MP discuss “humane solution” for thousands of ‘Muslim infiltrators’ in Israel: Send them to live down under.

    “The refugees’ place is not among us, and the initiative to transfer them to Australia is the right and just solution.

    Danon said Danby enthusiastically agreed to present the idea to the Australian Parliament.

    The reality is most sane people accept Balanced migration that is done in a fashion or pace
    that does not turn the host country into as bad a cot case as the regions these people are escaping from

    When viewing the motivation of Chinese people to come here do not forget they do not
    really prefer Communism they prefer our Freedoms the thing is they do not really
    get to choose or vote for the system DO they

    So given a choice they Vote with their Feet to an extent but Communism has flourished there which is alarming

    Remember Chinese (like many other nationalities) have been migrating since the 1800′s so are already an intrinsic part of NZ society

    To be fair and balanced you can’t just take people from 1 country can you (1 race religion or creed)
    unless of course there is major political influence going on behind closed doors that no one knows about
    with money changing hands and certain political parties being favoured

    But I am sure none of that is happening or had happened it / if it did we would know about it

    And Maybe if Israel does not mind (this time) you could take some people from European Countries as well
    I mean if that is racially ethnically and religiously acceptable

    But like everything it is up for discussion and when we get near an election the…

    Migration policies are carefully deliberately manicured to extract the most support as possible out of migrant
    communities to help ensure more migration in the future and more votes in the future
    and to ensure more kiwis in turn migrate

    You could invest in infrastructure and R&D to grow the economy so you could in turn grow as a skilled economy
    to attract more skilled migrants (and a diverse range of migrants) instead of exporting skilled people

    But R&D is and innovation come well below “migration” “welfare” and “The Treaty”

    Then I suppose do you consult the Treaty on this one and maybe Maori could chip in and help Israel with this one

    Think of the increase in $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ income for everyone

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