Hide on Seymour

August 10th, 2014 at 8:04 am by David Farrar

writes in the HoS:

Politicians seldom get to anoint a successor. That was especially so for me. Readers may recall I left with a bit of a hiss and a roar at a time I least expected it.

But if I were to appoint a successor it would be . As it happens, the Act Party has chosen Seymour as their candidate for Epsom. I met Seymour more than 10 years ago. He impressed me by having built his own car as a high school student. He built a Lotus 7 replica, beginning with a piece of steel and a book. It still runs and is registered. It’s fast.

Now that’s cool.

We often say young people have no discipline or dedication. But how many of us have built a car from scratch? We say, too, that young people only look out for themselves. But Seymour was also a Lifeline volunteer and coached rugby. He seemed a little too good to be true.

And in a way he was. He was a nuisance. He was always pestering me with questions about economics, political theory and philosophy. I wanted him delivering pamphlets but had to humour him by answering him as best I could.

I gave him a reading list. He read the lot then pestered me with questions about them.

Seymour has an engineering degree, has worked as a policy wonk in North America, and has returned to New Zealand to rescue Act and ensure John Key gets a third term.

He has a lot on his shoulders. Act has had to win Epsom these past two elections to ensure Key is prime minister. That’s the nature of MMP. Epsom matters to our future.

Seymour is 31. That’s a plus. We need young people in Parliament. They have an immediate contribution to make and we need them to learn the ropes to become tomorrow’s leaders. His job is to convince Epsom voters to vote for him to be their MP. It’s a tough job. I know. I also know the toughness of earning that vote makes for a good MP. The tremendous effort required makes you appreciate the privilege. And you know you must work hard to keep it. Every constituent counts.

And Seymour has been doing it the old fashioned way – trying to knock on every door in the electorate.

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60 Responses to “Hide on Seymour”

  1. itstricky (1,801 comments) says:

    Reads like an advertisment, to me. Call the party faithful in to “resuce ACT and keep John Key in power”. Stirring reading in cafes down Remuera Road, this morning, I’m sure.

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  2. Nostalgia-NZ (5,121 comments) says:

    Being able to build a car at any age is very difficult, no doubt more difficult is re-building a party image tarnished by his predecessors – that he’s taking that on shows determination.

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  3. Warren Murray (307 comments) says:

    But Seymour ISNT the leader.

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  4. Pete George (23,481 comments) says:

    He isn’t the party leader but he’s leading the effort to rescue Act from oblivion (it’s only possible he will rescue the Key government, it could happen without him).

    And he seems to be doing a very good job in Epsom. He could earn the electorate on his merits. He’s a good prospect for Parliament.

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  5. wiseowl (869 comments) says:

    Wow!
    I have friends who you go to and scribble something on a piece of paper and they produce exactly what you want but couldn’t explain.
    I have friends who have built vintage cars from scratch. I have had a host of friends that can solve problems and they have friends that share problem solving.
    It’s something that we in real New Zealand have known for years.
    I bet this is a common situation in New Zealand .
    At 31 Seymour may be a clever fellow but personally I think its too young to go into politics .What we need are people with life experience who have run businesses and have an ability to think for themselves.

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  6. WineOh (630 comments) says:

    Ah the warrior-philosopher. A man of wisdom but also of practicality.

    I’m impressed that Hide hasn’t completely distanced himself from the party, with the way that he was unceremoniously dumped from ACT it would have been sorely tempting for him to get stuck in at every opportunity for revenge. It speaks of Rodney’s character that he is still willing to wave the flag for the cause.

    With this endorsement I would be interesting in sharing dinner and a bottle of wine with Seymour to get to know the man – not something I could say of every politician.

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  7. Manolo (13,590 comments) says:

    The question remains: will Seymour win?

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  8. tvb (4,366 comments) says:

    A very bright sincere kid. A bit of a nerd for sure. But providing he remain sincere and principled he should be quite good. I would happily vote for him. A clear principled voice on the right is much needed. Their policies of crime lack both principle and sincerity. They need to sharpen up their act in that area. But that is a side area. Economic principles matter most.

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  9. OneTrack (3,027 comments) says:

    wiseowl – “What we need are people with life experience who have run businesses and have an ability to think for themselves.”

    But what we have are the Labour party and the Green party.

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  10. Pete George (23,481 comments) says:

    At 31 Seymour may be a clever fellow but personally I think its too young to go into politics.

    Why too young? He seems capable enough to me and Parliament needs a range of ages and interests.

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  11. YesWeDid (1,048 comments) says:

    I hope this ‘article’ comes with an authorisian statement and is counted as part of ACT’s election spending.

    What was Hide thinking? Isn’t this gushing rubbish exactly the sort of thing he shouldn’t be writing if he wants to be seen as a serious columnist?

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  12. NK (1,232 comments) says:

    Of course David Seymour will win Epsom, and it’s because he has been campaigning since February. You can’t enter a marathon at the 30k stage and expect to win, because it’s not a sprint, it’s an endurance event. It rankles with me to see Colin Craig producing dodgy polling (outright lies?) saying Act has “no chance” in the seat because I know, and I know the Nats know, that Seymour is winning. We do need more young people in parliament, and 4 of Act’s top 11 are under 31. And Epsom is the second youngest electorate in the country so I can’t see Christine Rankin doing well there at all, which I’d kind of a shame because I like her. She’s just chosen to enter a gunfight with a slingshot.

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  13. eszett (2,401 comments) says:

    Yeah, yeah, such a fantastic candidate. And still, National has to stand aside to let him win!

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  14. Pete George (23,481 comments) says:

    A Colmar poll on Epsom has Rankin at 4%. She’s not trying to promote Conservative “internal polls’ now but saying it will be the biggest political turnaround in political history. Yeah, right.

    Seymour is doing very well in the Q&A debate amongst Epsom candidates.

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  15. NK (1,232 comments) says:

    Of course Pete. You know this, I know this, and most of Epsom knows this. The ones who don’t know it, or who choose to ignore it, are the Conservatives.

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  16. NK (1,232 comments) says:

    Pete, I like your guy in Northcote. I’ve met him over the last couple of elections and he’d be a good young MP for United Future. He’s at #3 on your list too so who knows, he might make it.

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  17. Yoza (1,818 comments) says:

    itstricky (1,606 comments) says:
    August 10th, 2014 at 8:18 am

    Reads like an advertisment, to me. Call the party faithful in to “resuce ACT and keep John Key in power”. Stirring reading in cafes down Remuera Road, this morning, I’m sure.

    Or damage control after Jamie Whyte’s disastrous week of romping about the media landscape. “Hey, look! See the ACT party isn’t all about a pompous white supremacist who talks down to everyone, check out the other guy in ACT!”

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  18. Pete George (23,481 comments) says:

    Colmar Brunton gave polled Epsom voters on their electorate vote but perhaps the most surprising result was on party vote:

    National 60%,
    Greens 16%
    Labour 14%
    NZ First 3%
    ACT 3%
    Conservatives 2%
    Internet-Mana 2%
    Maori Party 1%

    Greens are understandably very pleased.

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  19. doggone7 (777 comments) says:

    tvb: “…But providing he remain sincere and principled …”

    What principles though? The principle of being unprincipled? The principle of being able to prioritise one’s principles so as not to upset the voters? The principle that “money talks?”

    ACT doesn’t think there should be school zoning. The right wing generally scream about getting rid of school zoning. Recent stirrings in the Epsom area see zoning as an issue. But the most important principle, not upsetting the people, means the principles about schooling and choice for parents is deleted.

    Oh, but with such sincerity.

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  20. Neil (579 comments) says:

    Watching the Q&A programme I was very impressed with David Seymour. He has the local knowledge already to hit the road running as an MP. When he can quote locality concerns that says something.
    Goldsmith was also most impressive interpreting his position in the Epsom “circus”. Goldsmith will hit cabinet should National get its deserved third term.
    Genter is easy on the eye and ear but seems to be taking incomprehensible policies to her electorate-maybe she’s after after the female yuppies vote- The Remuera Range Rover drivers.
    The Labour candidate was terrible along with Christine Rankin.
    Seymour for Epsom. Party Vote National!!!!

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  21. Pete George (23,481 comments) says:

    Goldsmith seems to have prepared well now for his role in Epsom for National. He has looked dazed and confused in the past.

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  22. mjw (392 comments) says:

    I think Seymour is just as qualified as many other Parliamentary candidates. But I am amazed at Rodney Hide’s article. Claiming that the Nats need Epsom to stay in power under MMP is equivalent to saying that they need a gerrymander to stay in power. If you are relying on a gerrymander, you shouldn’t be in power. And even with the gerrymander, the 5-headed hydra of the Nats, United Future, Act, NZ First, and Maori party will be an unedifying sight.

    I’m starting to wonder if this will be a good election to lose. Whoever wins is going to have a torrid time, yet in 2017 NZ First, UF, Maori and Act could all be gone. The result could be extinction of the minor party experiment, and a landslide to the opposition, whoever it is (and whatever they believe in at that point).

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  23. nickb (3,686 comments) says:

    Goldsmith will hit cabinet should National get its deserved third term.

    No chance IMO, unless it is a cosy sinecure (Minister of Statistics?) as compensation for taking an personally embarrassing dive in Epsom. He is a charisma free-zone with zero appeal to, well, anyone.

    And I still don’t understand why people keep calling Epsom a gerrymander / rort etc. It’s not like National are not standing a candidate, as unappealing as he is (check Twitter account “White Flour Bag 4 Epsom” for a good laugh). Epsom voters have been given a choice, and if they choose to vote ACT to bolster the chances of a National government, then it seems highly patronising to say they are somehow part of a rort. Despite what intellectual luminaries like Michelle Boag say.

    I don’t see the rort at all.

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  24. Pete George (23,481 comments) says:

    He is a charisma free-zone with zero appeal to, well, anyone.

    Speaking for whom?

    I thought Goldsmith did well enough on Q&A, and he has risen from 40 to 30 on National’s list so must be doing ok in someone’s eyes.

    Goldsmith helped keep Act in play last election and is doing what he can to repeat that this time. He seems to be effective at his assigned role.

    All MPs don’t have to be celebrities – it’s best if most of them aren’t.

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  25. Alan Wilkinson (1,873 comments) says:

    Nice article by Rodney.

    I see the vile Paul Little has emitted yet another personal attack spiel in the Herald today, this time on Craig. As usual there is nothing of any intellectual content about his policies, it is all just sneering dirt about his personality.

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  26. Neil (579 comments) says:

    nickbe 1038 I watch parliament regularly and find Goldsmith one of the most literate and easily understood members in the house. He performed well today in Q&A.
    Goldsmith has earned his spurs and cabinety shoulkd be the result.

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  27. Viking2 (11,420 comments) says:

    wiseowl (782 comments) says:
    August 10th, 2014 at 8:53 am

    Wow!
    I have friends who you go to and scribble something on a piece of paper and they produce exactly what you want but couldn’t explain.
    I have friends who have built vintage cars from scratch. I have had a host of friends that can solve problems and they have friends that share problem solving.
    It’s something that we in real New Zealand have known for years.
    I bet this is a common situation in New Zealand .
    At 31 Seymour may be a clever fellow but personally I think its too young to go into politics .What we need are people with life experience who have run businesses and have an ability to think for themselves.
    =================
    Like those from Labour, the Green slime, Maori Party etc etc. or even the local Simon of no experience.

    Having the right principles will always get you there.

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  28. ChardonnayGuy (1,199 comments) says:

    Judging from TVNZ’s poll on Q&A this morning, it seems that all David’s hard work is paying off. But…

    http://www.tvnz.co.nz/politics-news/national-leads-way-in-epsom-poll-6051370

    Who would you vote for with your electorate vote?

    *National Paul Goldsmith 44%
    Act David Seymour 32%
    Labour Michael Wood 10%
    Green Julie Anne Genter 9%
    Conservative Christine Rankin 4%
    Internet Mana Pat O’Dea 0.8%
    Independent Grace Haden 0.3%
    Don’t know 8%

    Were you aware John key is encouraging National Party supporters to give their electorate vote to the Act Party candidate?

    Yes 70%
    *No 28%
    Don’t know 2%

    With this in mind, who would you now vote for with your electorate vote?

    National Paul Goldsmith 31%
    *Act David Seymour 45%
    Labour Michael Wood 9%
    Green Julie Anne Genter 10%
    Conservative Christine Rankin 4%
    Internet Mana Pat O’Dea .08%
    Independent Grace Haden 0.1%
    Don’t know 13%

    Do you support or oppose arrangements like the one John Key has made with the Act Party in Epsom?

    Support 47%
    Oppose 37%
    Don’t know 16%

    Which political party would you vote for?

    National 60%
    (!!!) Green 16%
    Labour 14%
    NZ First 3.3%
    Act 2.7%
    Conservative 2.1%
    Internet Mana 1.5%
    Maori 0.6%
    Don’t know 6%

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  29. somewhatthoughtful (464 comments) says:

    So if Seymour’s the second coming, how do you explain Whyte?

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  30. Anthony (795 comments) says:

    The Greens do very well in Wellington Central too. Chardonnay Socialists love the Greens – but doesn’t mean they’ll give up their huge SUVs they ferry the kids to school in!

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  31. itstricky (1,801 comments) says:

    I see the vile Paul Little has emitted yet another personal attack spiel in the Herald today, this time on Craig. As usual there is nothing of any intellectual content about his policies, it is all just sneering dirt about his personality.

    What policies? That’s the whole point of the middle of his piece. There are two, that anyone has actually heard of.

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  32. iMP (2,366 comments) says:

    And this was a paid HoS advertisement for the ACT party…

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  33. Milk Me (157 comments) says:

    It will be seen if Seymore can actually handle the real life of actual politics, I doubt he will after what I have personally witnessed from him.
    Canvassing in Greenlane he came to my house and I nearly had him in tears, he told me that I should’t talk to him like that I as I had just met him, to which I replied that he was entering into politics and it will get much worse as I was telling the truth and people will start telling untruths about him.
    Parliament is not for the faint of heart and Seymore is a bit of a lightweight, imagine how he will react when the likes of Mallard or Peters get stuck into him, he aint got what it takes.
    p.s. Building a kit car is nothing great, anyone can do it, more so someone with an engineering background.

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  34. iMP (2,366 comments) says:

    In the end it comes down to this: most voters are ambivalent and ill-informed. Name recognition is everything, which is why utterly useless people who’ve been in the media or on TV have been elected again and again to office but are woefully suited to the task. Bt voters don’t care, they just vote for a name they kinda recognise. Like Sally Buck in Chch, whom most people thought for years was “Vicky Buck.”

    Rankin has name recognition, and that will count.

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  35. mikenmild (11,247 comments) says:

    It’ll count for about 5% of the electorate.

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  36. ChardonnayGuy (1,199 comments) says:

    More like two percent, judging from the micropoll above. Interestingly enough, she’s polling twice as well as her party’s voter share in that electorate. So yes, perhaps Rankin was a good candidate selection, but they seem to be perceived as policy-lite carpetbaggers in an already claimed electorate. The contest seems to be between Goldsmith and Seymour over who’ll get the electorate vote. And as I’ve repeatedly noted, the Greens relatively strong voter share suggests the strong urban liberal presence in the electorate.

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  37. Doctor Who (52 comments) says:

    It was oft repeated on TV that National needs an Act MP, not National MP, in Epsom to remain in government. Surely it makes no difference unless Act bring in another MP.

    Jamie Whyte, standing in Pakuranga, asks for the party vote but says give the electorate vote to Williamson. I guess that’s a knock-for-knock arrangement.

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  38. mattyman1010 (35 comments) says:

    I think David’s performance this morning will make the electorate a lot more comfortable now. All the candidates did pretty well, Goldsmith a lot more comfortable than he was last election! Nice to see Act’s Epsom PV polling a bit ahead of how they did in 2011.

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  39. wrightingright (143 comments) says:

    The endorsements for David Seymour just keep on rolling in! Impressive. Has any other politicians this election in NZ who isn’t an MP got more endorsements?

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  40. wrightingright (143 comments) says:

    > It was oft repeated on TV that National needs an Act MP, not National MP, in Epsom to remain in government. Surely it makes no difference unless Act bring in another MP.

    That is not how MMP works! Even if ACT gets zero list MPs, then Seymour is still one more MP supporting National than others. As if National wins Epsom they’ll get one less list MP.

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  41. Jack5 (5,055 comments) says:

    Rodney Hide says:

    He built a Lotus 7 replica, beginning with a piece of steel and a book.

    Pray tell us more, Rodney. You mean it didn’t have a fibreglass body, and an engine from Japan ready to purr?

    He made it from a piece of steel. Where did he get the mighty press to make the body, then? Did he really forge or turn the steel into a drive shaft? What CNC machine tools did he have access to for this work.

    Or, Rodney, do you mean Seymour assembled a kit? Not easy, but at least not impossible like building a car from piece of steel with the aid of “a book”.

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  42. gump (1,638 comments) says:

    Act would benefit from some time in the wilderness.

    I won’t be voting for David Seymour.

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  43. Jack5 (5,055 comments) says:

    Writingwrite posted at 12.59:

    Even if ACT gets zero list MPs, then Seymour is still one more MP supporting National than others. As if National wins Epsom they’ll get one less list MP.

    I’m not sure what this means, Writingwrite.

    Isn’t the position that if Seymour wins Epsom, National will have made the right choice only if ACT gets enough party votes to get at least one additional MP?

    If it doesn’t National would surely be better off to have won Epsom. Some ACT party votes that come through the country with the gifting of Epsom to ACT might otherwise have gone to National.

    Without Epsom: If voters thought ACT could get someone into Parliament if and only if ACT won sufficient party votes, then voters might be more reluctant to risk their party votes on the chance that ACT got over the minimum party vote hurdle.

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  44. Rex Widerstrom (5,349 comments) says:

    That’s an interesting poll. 70 percent already knew Key wanted people to vote Seymour, yet Goldsmith leads him by 12 percent.

    Then the poll tells the 28 percent who supposedly didn’t know that Key wants them to vote that way, and suddenly Seymour jumps 14 percent, all at Goldsmith’s expense.

    First, if we assume equal knowledge of the National/Act strategy across supporters of all parties, then a very large chunk of National voters (as high as 64 percent if we assume all Goldsmith’s votes are from Nats) don’t want Seymour even though he’d bring their party a tactical advantage. That’s hardly the ringing endorsement some are claiming.

    But more curiously, I find it hard to believe you can be a National or Act voter in Epsom at this stage of the campaign – and after years of there being a similar strategy – and not know what both parties would prefer that you did. Yet that reversal of candidate support can’t be coming from the 70 percent who already know the strategy. It can only have come from the 28 percent who didn’t.

    Is this really possible?! Especially as residents of the electorate have commented here from time to time saying their peers are engaged, intelligent and know what the strategy entails.

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  45. Scott1 (530 comments) says:

    Seems like the greens should stand a Potato in the Epsom electorate as their candidate. It would be funny, and they could avoid getting the 9% of the Epsom vote that could hypothetically keep them out of government (as part of they hydra of the left).

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  46. dime (9,869 comments) says:

    I like seymour and whyte. ACT! getting my vote for the first time in a long time.

    National have done enough to offend me over the last 6 years.. they have a hostile media, an extreme left opposition. they have the most goodwill they are ever going to have. its time to start shifting the centre back to the centre.. currently centre left is the centre. its not right.

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  47. gump (1,638 comments) says:

    I’m not surprised that the Act party vote is only polling three percent in Epsom.

    Voters in Epsom (like myself) recognise that the party is electoral poison in its current form.

    I’ll be giving two ticks to National.

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  48. wrightingright (143 comments) says:

    I’m amazed that after 18 years people still don’t understand how MMP works.

    If National wins Epsom they will not be gaining any extra seats. As it is their party vote which determines how many seats they get in total. If they gain one more electorate seat, they’ll also lose one list seat.

    While if ACT wins Epsom vs not winning, that means one extra MP (at least) supporting a National government vs zero more supporting National.

    If you’re a National supporter in Epsom it seems very obvious which to support!

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  49. Jack5 (5,055 comments) says:

    Wrightingwrit (2.18):

    Ignoring party vote, how do you get National gets one more MP supporting it? National would be less the one National MP who otherwise would hold the Epsom electorate seat. The (coalition) electorate seat gain for National is at best zero.

    Now the party vote. If voters are doubtful that a party would get over the threshold for seats from party votes, as would be the case for ACT without Epsom, they are less likely to vote for that party. Why risk your party vote ending up being worthless? The sort of person who would vote for ACT but decides this is too risky would then likely give his or her party vote to National.

    The gain for gifting Epsom to ACT is largely ACT’s, and overwhelmingly ACT’s if ACT does not get enough party votes to a get a second MP into Parliament.

    ACT’s surprisingly few remaining supporters should be grateful to National.

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  50. Steve Wrathall (283 comments) says:

    ACT is certainly on track to get more MPs in when David wins Epsom. However even if you believe the pundits who say that ACT only gets ~1% it still pays because that one seat (Epsom) would be held by the centre right. If ACT didn’t win Epsom the seat would go to the party with the next largest quotient. In 2011 that was Labour. Even if ACT got not enough party votes for even one quotient, but won Epsom, there would be an overhang of one-but that would be a one-seat advantage to a JK-led government. In short, under any scenario, ACT winning Epsom advantages the cause of keeping Cunliffe away from the prime ministership.

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  51. Unity (532 comments) says:

    David Seymour certainly has worked very hard in Epsom. Good luck to him. However I was surprised how well Christine Rankin came across especially seeing she is a new candidate. She could certainly be a force to be reckoned with. I thought they all did well on Q+A this morning. It was so much more polished than TV3’s The Nation. Lisa Owen’s voice is far too shrill and hectoring for me – gave me quite a headache. She should try to lower it. Rachel Smalley is so much better. TV3’s loss!! Good comments from the commentators on Q+A also.

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  52. RRM (9,841 comments) says:

    You had me at Lotus 7! ;-)

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  53. Jack5 (5,055 comments) says:

    Steve Wrathall posted at 2.32:

    If ACT didn’t win Epsom the seat would go to the party with the next largest quotient. In 2011 that was Labour.

    That is, if, and only if, National told its supporters to vote ACT. If it didn’t, Epsom would be a shoe-in for National.

    Why don’t ACT supporters acknowledge and thank National for giving it Epsom rather than trying to bullshit that National voters should be grateful to ACT?

    Cars home made out of blocks of steel, voting support conjured out of the air … ACT has gone to hell. Another sign. Stephen Franks, former ACT MP and perhaps the brightest spark to have come out of ACT along with Roger Douglas, is saying kind things about McVicar’s jump to the Conservatives. See the link below to Stephen’s blog.

    http://www.stephenfranks.co.nz/

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  54. daniel carter (34 comments) says:

    Seymour is a social retard who can’t look women in the eye. Perhaps that’s his appeal to ACT supporters.

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  55. gump (1,638 comments) says:

    @wrightingright

    I understand how MMP works. Which is why I understand that if David Seymour isn’t elected in Espom, Act will have no representation in parliament in the coming term.

    And that’s why I’m giving two ticks to National.

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  56. Viking2 (11,420 comments) says:

    gump (1,522 comments) says:
    August 10th, 2014 at 3:38 pm

    @wrightingright

    I understand how MMP works. Which is why I understand that if David Seymour isn’t elected in Espom, Act will have no representation in parliament in the coming term.

    And that’s why I’m giving two ticks to National.

    ============================
    No you don’t.

    Its really simple. If act don’t get Epsom the Nats are out of govt.
    Is that what you want?
    Really you are a left wing socialist twat.

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  57. gump (1,638 comments) says:

    @Viking2

    I don’t believe that National needs a seat from Act to form a Government.

    Act hasn’t achieved anything recently that justifies their place in Government. All of their significant policy gains have been in the past. John Banks was literally just a bench-warmer during the last term.

    So I’m giving two ticks to National. As will the rest of my household.

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  58. Rogy (3 comments) says:

    @Gump

    Would be really funny if those National voters who don’t understand MMP, or people like you, elected Goldsmith but National lacked the numbers by a mere 1-2 MPs to form the government resulting in Cunliff being PM.

    I would be too complacent, this election will be a lot closer that people think.

    #3moreyears

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  59. Rogy (3 comments) says:

    Edit* Wouldn’t*

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  60. deadrightkev (441 comments) says:

    I think David Seymour will lose Epsom to Goldsmith because Rankin will split the vote. Seymour is a weak link despite his knocking on 10,000 doors which is not possible even for Usain Bolt. What is glaring already is that Seymour is distancing himself from true Act policies. Zoning has been a no-no in the genuine Act party philosophy but he is distancing himself from the zoning debate because he knows Epsom constituents would not swallow that dead rat. Seymour cannot escape that one and I suspect he will get plenty of heat over it.

    This policy back down smacks of a get elected then worry about the party members, polices and philosophy later. In my view Seymour winning Epsom on his own will be the end of Act as he is too young and inexperienced to manage the Act party and electorate at the same time. The National apparatchiks would eat him alive.

    Craig engaged a polling company he trusted to poll Rodney correctly but they clearly didn’t, there is nothing that connects Craig with lying to anyone in any way so that is just amateur character assassination crap. Craig is incapable of lying if you know the guy.

    People talk of marathons and I have run a few in my time. The finish line is 20 September. We will see then who times their peak correctly.

    I support Act and the Conservatives. I would like to see both leaders get into parliament. Act is dying and needs to die or it will continue to be a National party plaything.

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