General Debate 1 November 2018

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artemisia

I get the feeling that the phrase ‘reading between the lines’ is going get many airings in and out of the House. And pillars will be regularly and carefully inspected for hiding Ministers. The House version of Pokemon Go.
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November 1, 2018 8:03am
- kowtow
  
  ILG made a big play of blaming his officials for not giving him all the facts…….sorry buddy , you’re the minister , the guy who put himself up for election to do the job. Use your common sense and duty of responsibility to New Zealand , or is that too much to ask ?
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:07am
  - cmm
    
    You’ve got to be careful playing that card too often. Every PSA member is also a voter.
    
    They might never vote National, but they needn’t go voter on election day.
    
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    November 1, 2018 8:09am
  - holysheet
    
    He should have taken the silly little girlies advice and “read between the lines”
    
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    November 1, 2018 8:11am
    - sooty
      
      There is a big difference between,
      Read between the lines!
      Read between the lies!
      The letter “N”.
      
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      November 1, 2018 8:33am
      - Chris R
        
        Sooty: The problem is with Taxinda there is nothing between the “lies” as it is all a continuous stream of b/s from her.
        
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        November 1, 2018 9:18am
      - MH
        
        what ever happened to Diana and the Golden apple ?
        
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        November 1, 2018 1:43pm
    - Inandout
      
      Come on wee Neve let’s read this ‘Jack and Jill’ book, but we will have to read between the lines, won’t we? No, safer if we read ‘Wiremu Does The Haka’ because it has been cleansed.
      
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      November 1, 2018 8:43am
      - artemisia
        
        I occasionally catch some of the kids’ story time on National Radio – just while the coffee is brewing you understand. There is always a Wiremu, a Tama, a Hone or a Moana. Sometimes all of the above.
        
        Clearly there has been a memo – if you want to be on the wireless and get paid, follow the rule. Bonus payment if ‘New Zealand’ is not mentioned.
        
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        November 1, 2018 9:18am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        I occasionally catch some of the kids’ story time on National Radio – just while the coffee is brewing you understand.
        
        Storytime, RNZ: Sat & Sun 6am-7am
        
        It is excruciatingly bad.
        Does any child listen to it? Mine never did. (But they never woke before 8am).
        
        It just seems to be a vehicle for faded radio announcers to make a few $$$ reading stories from faded NZ writers.
        
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        November 1, 2018 9:50am
      - Jack5
        
        The quickest way to sort out Radio New Zealand would be to require it to be self-supporting, or even largely self-supporting, through advertising.
        
        If anything can fix Radio NZ, it might be the market.
        
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        November 1, 2018 10:05am
      - Prince
        
        Artemisia, where is this ‘New Zealand’ ? Is it adjacent to the Aotearoa that I hear so much about in the media, as we are re-educated in the goodthink manner.
        
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        November 1, 2018 12:01pm
      - MH
        
        what ever happened to Diana and the Golden apple ?
        
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        November 1, 2018 1:46pm
      - Swifty
        
        I quite liked Sparky and the Talking Train, The Golden Palomino, and the Oscar Wilde ones – especially The Happy Prince and The Selfish Giant.
        
        You mean these aren’t played anymore?
        
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        November 1, 2018 1:49pm
      - MH
        
        what ever happened to Diana and the Golden apple ?
        
        i go to delete in 4 mins and it stays and all I get is a minus 1 top LHS ?
        
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        November 1, 2018 1:51pm
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        When I was a kid Storytime was a wonderful thing.
        I have a set of CDs from RNZ Replay Radio that get played in the car on long trips.
        Diana and the Golden Apples, Sparky and the talking train, etc all get played in the car on long trips with the grands. The Happy Prince still puts a little dust in the eye.
        Listening to stories helps train kids to listen to other things – like instructions.
        Danny Kaye was another favourite.
        
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        November 1, 2018 9:39pm
      - Piniwi
        
        Right artemisia and we must guess the Royal visitors got the same memo as the seemed confused about where they were visiting. The irony is very visual as they were steadily marionated for the length of their visit by the very people who in days gone by would have had them in their pot. Can we expect TOW V2 to be presented soon?
        
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        November 1, 2018 9:46pm
  - Surely Knott
    
    Czech’s incredulous. “The Minister felt sorry for him!” (a bit goofy due to google translate.) Headline – Karel escaped after the murder to NZ, because of drugs they wanted to expel him, but the Minister felt sorry for him! “The Czech citizen, after which the Czech police are searching for a murder investigation in 2003, avoids expulsions from New Zealand. There he was convicted of drug smuggling, and he was threatened with expulsion after the expiration of the sentence. But he does not have to worry because the New Zealand government has granted him a residence permit. ” https://translate.google.co.nz/translate?hl=en&sl=cs&u=https://www.blesk.cz/clanek/zpravy-krimi/573533/karel-utekl-po-vrazde-na-novy-zeland-kvuli-drogam-ho-chteli-vyhostit-slitoval-se-nad-nim-ministr.html&prev=search
    
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    November 1, 2018 9:11am
    - Tall Man
      
      FFS.
      
      Unbelievable. Let’s not do this..maybe!
      
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      November 1, 2018 10:25am
  - Paulus
    
    What are the odds that with the ‘new” information Less-Galloway will have his mind change today
    And we will await what comes out of the woodwork – could be interesting.
    
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    November 1, 2018 9:16am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      By all means let ILG change his mind, but the damage has already been done to his credibility.
      
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      November 1, 2018 1:37pm
  - RW Capitalist
    
    They are trying the “but you did it too” to Michael Woodhouse.
    BUT
    He and Ministers before him, didn’t UNILATERALLY give out RESIDENCY.
    Yes there were times when their department did not extradite one person or another for strange reasons.
    BUT
    The MINISTER did NOT give them
    The RIGHT to stay
    The RIGHT to vote
    The RIGHT to claim welfare
    etc
    ie R E S I D E N C Y
    
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    November 1, 2018 9:17am
    - calendar girl
      
      Ah, the hopeless Woodhouse is still remembered for his Ministerial foibles at Immigration.
      
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      November 1, 2018 9:38am
      - RW Capitalist
        
        But NEVER made UNILATERAL decisions regarding RESIDENCY
        
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        November 1, 2018 9:40am
- oldgolfer
  
  Hosking says ILG should be called Shrek, he’s had so much wool pulled over his eyes.
  From now he will be.
  
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  November 1, 2018 10:45am
  - MH
    
    and shrekking his responsibilities.
    
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    November 1, 2018 1:53pm
cmm

I think the whole Sroubek saga is going to hurt Labour badly, but not quite the way some people think.

Much is being made of ILG and PriNZess’ incompetence, but that is not so important. They were never selling themselves as competent. They were selling themselves as the people that care.

And the way people judge that is: do they care for people like me?

How many people empathise with a drug dealing crim? Far more people can empathise with various people of far better character that have been thrown out over recent months.

As an example, the South African family with the kid with kidney problems said they would pay their own medical expenses. They might have ended up costing us $300k or so in extra medical expences, but Sroubek has already cost us over a million in police, court and incarceration etc and would cost us more.

Another example: the overstayer islanders working in the fruit industry are all more deserving than Sroubek.

This also comes at a time when Kiwibuild, another one of the “Labour cares” programs has served up a four bedroom house to a professional couple with a top-decile income. Very few people will see that as caring for people like me.

This will also compound Labours problems in going softly on crime and drugs. Crime is always a good barrel thumping cause and most people have had a gutsful of P etc. Andy going soft on crims has just been amplified.

Then add in killing off charter schools and people really struggle with answering “Do they care about people like me?” to Labour’s advantage.

Where the competence will damage Labour is in their quest for bringing hundreds of Manus Islanders and other Australian rejects to NZ. PriNZess has repeatedly assured us that they will be well vetted. Since they can’t vet a single person from a well documented background, how are they ever going to vet a flood of people from shitholistam countries?
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November 1, 2018 8:04am
- dave_c_
  
  Great post cmm, It’s so easy to express angst on a daily/weekly basis, but it is not until a summary like this is produced, that it consolidates the lie of the current governments election promise.
  ‘Care for people like me’ – bollocks.
  What a sad pack of blatant liars.
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:10am
- DigNap15
  
  @ cmm
  All very true
  But the polls still show much support for Labour
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:14am
  - oldgolfer
    
    Thus far.
    I think the mood is changing.
    Going to be death by many cuts.
    
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    November 1, 2018 8:19am
    - Jules99
      
      I hope so. Just spent some time with my mum who thinks Jacinda is wonderful. ‘She’s smart and knows how to respond to the media and tackle difficult questions’ Talk about brainwashing. On reflection, maybe Jacinda good at deflecting the difficult problems onto others. It’s all about managing impressions which the media do for her.
      
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      November 1, 2018 8:34am
    - Harkman
      
      See the JLR saga was bad for National, but unlike what the 6PM news will tell you, the royal visit was a stroke of luck for them. While lefty spin will say Cindy was hob-nobbing with Meghan as an international figure but the truth is Harry & Meghan killed the JLR story and it has been replaced by the utterly ridiculous story of a mean arse drug dealer being given soft arse treatment. Besides most people I interact with think that Cindy’s performance over the last week has been cringe worthy, no vomit worthy. Naturally, Colmar Brunton won’t suspend its prior polling to focus on the fall out from this one.
      
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      November 1, 2018 9:18am
  - cmm
    
    A couple of points:
    
    1) No polls yet reflect the impact of the Kiwibuild house lottery or the Sroubek cock-up.
    
    2) Polls do not adequately show whether people are motivated to vote or not.
    
    Lots of the Labour “bounce” in 2017 was due to Labour putting up PriNZess as leader and many people getting sucked in by her message of caring.
    
    Many 2017 Labour voters would just not bother now, but the polls don’t reflect that.
    
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    November 1, 2018 8:20am
    - lifesgood
      
      Plus the polls are skewed. I have been rung 3 times by polling companies for political polls and have been rejected everytime due to my post code (a true blue electorate) and my age. They clearly don’t want my opinions.
      
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      November 1, 2018 8:25am
      - kowtow
        
        Very interesting , the media are constantly treating us to stories about influenced elections in other parts of the world , but if the polling companies are doing biased selection of pollees to get a desired result , are they not engaging in similar practise.
        
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        November 1, 2018 8:35am
      - lastmanstanding
        
        Of course they do. Not Curia of course but some poll companies trying to please their masters the Left Wing MSM who pay them will ask questions to favour the COL and disfavour the Nats. They will ignore people like lifesgood by postcode filtering so its hard to accuse them.
        
        As many a pollie has said the only poll that matters is the one on election day.
        
        And on that note can I repeat my frequent request that before going into a polling booth voter should have yo pass an IQ test and political knowledge test.
        
        Why you ask. So only those with a brain and a knowledge of what they are voting for get to vote.
        
        Voting should be a privilege reserved for those who can prove they are worthy for the task.
        
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        November 1, 2018 9:01am
      - dime
        
        “due to my post code (a true blue electorate) and my age. ”
        
        heh that’s why you need to be like Dime. a proud 27 yr old Maori man from Mangere. Postcode 2022.
        
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        November 1, 2018 9:59am
      - fluffykiwi
        
        Just take a note of the lies told by Cindy and fabricate a story, you are a renter, you are aged under 45 etc., polls skew the results by the choice of who to poll. Hit back and invent a story about yourself. Oh and don’t forget you are between jobs presently.
        
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        November 1, 2018 5:24pm
    - Peter S
      
      Also, we got zero polls in the period where all Labour’s stuff ups were in the news, but two in the single period where National was troubled.
      I doubt that a poll taken two weeks earlier would have been favourable to the coalition.
      It was noted in the 1 News poll that mid week National had been down to mid 30’s then recovered, which indicates what a non representative poll it really was.
      
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      November 1, 2018 8:27am
  - G152
    
    Only those who are asked and polls can skew.
    Ask the wannabe 97% US president hopeful
    
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    November 1, 2018 8:29am
  - Dave Mann
    
    But the polls still show much support for Labour
    
    Yes. I was absolutely gobsmacked at a family function the other day when I made some throwaway comment about one of the stupid things Adern has done, and I was vehemently taken to task for not appreciating her fantastic competency and skills. I kid you not.
    
    I couldn’t believe it. This was a group of middle New Zealanders; some of them professional, none on a benefit and some with university degrees. And they ALL seemed to think that this ‘government’ is getting things right! Admittedly, a lot of them are white bone carving wearers… but FFS!
    
    I think this country is in deeper shit than we realise, frankly. Either that or KiwiBlog readers are completely out of touch with reality and everything is just fine… we don’t need an oil and gas industry, trees are being planter hell-for- leather, Kiwi build is going great guns, business is booming and every suburb needs the enriching diversity of newly released criminals, refugees and its own nice mosque.
    
    p.s. For my own mental safety at this time I won’t mention plastic bags. 😀
    
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    November 1, 2018 8:48am
    - Justitia
      
      I tend to agree Dave, I’m afraid this country is stuffed.
      
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      November 1, 2018 8:51am
      - dave_c_
        
        Why the surprise Justitia? We do want to be like the rest of the world, don’t we ?
        
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        November 1, 2018 9:11am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      In Auckland it’s easy to gain the impression that the streets are paved with smashed avocados on toast; there are so many cafes packed with $35-breakfast-eating tourists and locals.
      The skyline of Auckland is a row of cranes, busily erecting new high-rise shopping centers (so many “centers”) and apartments. On my own local street (Kepa Road) there are two major luxury apartment complexes under construction.
      I can forgive people with jobs (where bone carvings are an asset) for thinking that the CoL is the best thing since sliced Weetbix.
      
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      November 1, 2018 9:13am
      - Local Miller
        
        Yes, but they forget that all these projects came about during and because of “9 years of neglect by National”. My bet is that by election 2020, the number of cranes will be significantly diminished. A lot of projects will have come to an end, and very few new ones will have started.
        
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        November 1, 2018 10:06am
    - freethinker
      
      Kiwi build target is short by 95% and I guess Tree Planting 99% short which makes Kiwibuild a success on the Liebour sclae of spin.
      
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      November 1, 2018 10:34am
- KevOB
  
  Why do we want to take on Australia’s responsibilities?
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:22am
  - sooty
    
    Because Commie Cindy’s on a UN fast track!
    
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    November 1, 2018 8:40am
- 4077th
  
  As you say they will be judged on how they treat people and the compassion shown. Seems the same compassion ILG has shown to the Czech cannot be afforded to a young mother stuck in a Bali hospital. That woman subsequently died..How does this sit with their conscience compared to the drug dealing criminal scum?
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:46am
  - freethinker
    
    Labour have no conscience so no problem.
    
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    November 1, 2018 10:34am
  - Komata
    
    4077th
    
    Easily; the ‘Bali’ lady didn’t have anything ‘incriminating’ on members (or a member) of the NZLP…
    
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    November 1, 2018 12:26pm
Sponge

Serious question. Have we ever had such an incompetent and dysfunctional government in New Zealand before?
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November 1, 2018 8:04am
- Poppa
  
  Never in my memory
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:07am
  - lastmanstanding
    
    My memory goes back to the Keith Jacka Holyoake Government 1960 to 1972. There have been some better and some worse but none come near to this clusterf… and especially in such a short time. In the past the problems usually appeared in the 3rd term when fatigue and arrogance started to kick in.
    
    With this lot the arrogance started on Day One and has continued.
    
    For those of us with lots of lifes experiences we smile knowingly when kids or those who act like kids start lecturing us on how to live our lives when they are wet behind the ears and just out of nappies compared to us.
    
    We have been there and bought the T shirt so we don’t need a bunch of snotty nosed kids telling us what to do and how to do it.
    
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    November 1, 2018 9:08am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      I go back a bit further.
      In 1957 Labour won thanks to the promise of a 100 pound tax rebate for everyone (about $4000 in today’s money). Then a year later they took it all back with Nordmeyer’s famous Black Budget. That was the end of that ship of fools, Holyoake trounced them in 1960 and stayed in for 12 years.
      That ’57-’60 Labour Govt. was almost on a par with the current lot for incompetence. Almost.
      
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      November 1, 2018 9:24am
      - cmm
        
        And they didn’t have the benefit of selfies back then either!
        
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        November 1, 2018 3:09pm
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Yes, prior to colonisation and the introduction of civilisation.
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:15am
  - Colinxy
    
    Excepting the redefinition by some revisionists, I doubt pre-colonisation NZ could classify as having a government.
    
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    November 1, 2018 8:24am
    - cmm
      
      There was such harmony and caring, especially for women, kids and the environment, that there was no need for a government.
      
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      November 1, 2018 3:10pm
- Colinxy
  
  All the other governments that went into bed with Winston First? Admittedly, they were more competent than the current coalition but nonetheless they were shambolic.
  
  It’s almost as though there is a common thread.
  
  Though in Winston’s defence, Labour and the Greens are incompetent all by themselves. Perhaps Winston First works on an exponential scale?
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:22am
  - cmm
    
    Jump in the sack with Winnie and you only go one term in office. That’s how it has been since forever.
    
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    November 1, 2018 3:12pm
- Huevon
  
  The disintegration of Lange’s government in 88-89 must be up there. But even that was related to fundamental policy differences. With Ardern, it is really just all around uselessness.
  
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  November 1, 2018 10:03am
kowtow

The media are constantly treating us to images of German wimmin welcoming the “refugee” hordes and yet the victims of their worst excesses are wimmin ……..and goats.

‘Yet the investigation took an unusual turn when the assaults were also linked to a farm attack near the town. The 2017 contravention of the Animal Welfare Act saw sheep and goats “sexually targeted,” with DNA evidence left behind by the suspected perpetrator which was subsequently matched by the police database to the Freiburg attacker.’

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/10/31/dna-evidence-migrant-arrested-sex-assaults-women-animals-migrant-gang-rapes/
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November 1, 2018 8:04am
- hmmokrightitis
  
  There goes the German virgin wool program then.
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:06am
  - Morrissey
    
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    Did someone say “German virgin”?
    
    http://media.beam.usnews.com/1d/47/d7f5a173446899808909a5efb751/170202-donaldtrump-editorial.jpg
    
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    November 1, 2018 8:27am
- Longknives
  
  Stephieboy will be along in 3.2.1 to tell us about how ‘Culturally Enriching’ the floods of Muslims have been for Auckland…
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:09am
  - Tall Man
    
    She doesn’t start until 9 am in labour HQ.
    
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    November 1, 2018 8:31am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I’m getting a bit disturbed (and upset) by all this referencing of stephieboy as a girl.
      
      I know it was decidedly creepy when stephieboy asked me what size underpants I wear, but over the months, I have sort of coped.
      
      But now….How am I meant to process that stephieboy is a female asking me – a 65 year-old married house-wife – what size undies I wear?
      
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      November 1, 2018 10:10am
      - waikatogirl
        
        I’m with you Maggy, whichever way you look at that question from sb, it is creepy. Sb should zip it. ?
        
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        November 1, 2018 12:57pm
  - softail 1450
    
    Longknives ,dont laugh I have Tongan friends that tell me that the cost of goat meat has dropped markedly in the last few years,actually it’s very tasty lean meat ideal for stews or curries.
    Some folk on this blog ,eg septicboy ,can “have ” their food and eat it……….FFS.
    
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    November 1, 2018 9:33am
- Inandout
  
  Where is our resident Gropenfuhrer?
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:50am
- krazykiwi
  
  Remember, without a goat’s consent, sexual relations with it constitutes rape.
  
  You can of course kill it, without consent.
  
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  November 1, 2018 7:10pm
Woz

Can anybody tell me why the Maoris, who blame occupation and colonization for absolutely everything, worked so hard to hijack the entire royal tour?
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November 1, 2018 8:05am
- GazzaW
  
  If the Crown was to disappear as a legal entity in NZ would the Treaty continue to be a valid document? It was after all signed on behalf of Queen Victoria and her heirs and successors.
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:27am
  - Colinxy
    
    I suspect that if we were to become a republic the treaty would a.) become entrenched, b.) have wider implications (affect more areas) and c.) more invasive.
    
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    November 1, 2018 8:46am
  - Inandout
    
    Cindy says: Yes and no.
    
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    November 1, 2018 8:52am
- lifesgood
  
  I bet the royals had had a gutsful of all the Maori carry on by the time they left. It was absolutely over the top. Poor buggers having to sit through yet another long winded Maori “welcome” every where they went.
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:28am
  - stephieboy
    
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    lifesgood, no they didn’t. Rubbish! Thoroughly from all accounts. Enjoyed themselves and Rotorua turned on some very nice weather as a bonus!
    
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    November 1, 2018 8:38am
    - sooty
      
      She’s early!
      
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      November 1, 2018 8:43am
      - Inandout
        
        Prayers are over.
        
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        November 1, 2018 8:52am
    - Woz
      
      Of course they OFFICIALLY enjoyed themselves. It’s compulsory. But after all those long-winded pompous speeches by kowmar chewers they’d be starting to think “WTF?”. Any sane person would be, and I have no reason to believe that Harry, for all his faults, is anything but.
      
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      November 1, 2018 8:47am
      - dave_c_
        
        WTF indeed – No doubt this type of welcome only goes to cement in the monarchs mind that the far off land called NZ is still a bunch of ignorant twerps, and pat themselves on the back that this country was easily conquered and ruled by the british.
        
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        November 1, 2018 9:16am
    - igm
      
      No one in their right frame of mind enjoys seeing people poking out tongues, twisting sticks, and making inane noises, unless they get their kicks out of kissing floors and sodomising goats!
      
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      November 1, 2018 10:14am
      - Morrissey
        
        The only inane noise at the moment is your racist and unfunny ranting.
        
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        November 1, 2018 10:16am
  - Woz
    
    They must have a completely skewed perspective of NZ by now. Wailing wahines accompanying them where ever they go, pork and puha every night.
    
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    November 1, 2018 8:45am
- Morrissey
  
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  The New Zealand media’s coverage of the royal tour was as groveling and unquestioning this time round as it was back in 2013 when the “Big H” was chasing hookers and snorting coke in Vegas. But please, by all means explain how “the Maoris” tried to “hijack” the tour. I, for one, am intrigued.
  
  https://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2018/01/dont-mention-hookers-or-cocaine.html
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:33am
  - harvey wilson
    
    That’s exactly the sort of thing I mean when I say reading your blog is staring into the mouth of madness .
    
    Don’t take that as me wanting you to stop , reading the rants you post before you leave your bedsit for a busy day of saying “ welcome to Bunnings “ is highly entertaining to
    me but probably not in a way you approve of.
    
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    November 1, 2018 10:07am
    - Morrissey
      
      ????
      
      It’s “madness” to critique the sycophancy of the press? Please explain.
      
      (After that, you can tell us why we should worship the Big H.)
      
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      November 1, 2018 10:18am
      - harvey wilson
        
        I don’t care about the royal family one way or another .
        
        I doubt you’ll be allowed to edit Wikipedia but Quora seems to allow any kook , conspiracy theorist or nutter to post answers so there’s a grand opportunity to spread your madness globally I would have thought. Let us know when you’re signed up and I’ll buy popcorn.
        
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        November 1, 2018 10:23am
      - Morrissey
        
        You’re short on argument, long on abuse. You have no answer. You’ve failed to respond to the very straightforward challenge I issued you, and have only come up with calling me a “kook”, “conspiracy theorist”, and “nutter.”
        
        You’re the intellectual equivalent of the louts who close off any argument by shouting “homo”.
        
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        November 1, 2018 11:37am
      - harvey wilson
        
        I didn’t actually call you any of those things , understand that you would assume I would think people see you that way.
        
        I don’t care about any aspect of the royals and ignore the press coverage of them.
        
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        November 1, 2018 11:46am
      - Morrissey
        
        I didn’t actually call you any of those things,
        
        Of course you didn’t, because I am none of those things, and you know it. You are happy to sleazily associate me with them, however.
        
        understand that you would assume I would think people see you that way.
        
        Some people argue passionately against me, but only a few, extremely nasty and none-too-clever people have made it personal like you have. But feel free to keep firing them blanks, by all means.
        
        I don’t care about any aspect of the royals and ignore the press coverage of them.
        
        But you’re really angry that I criticized the fawning coverage of them. Interesting….
        
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        November 1, 2018 3:07pm
    - Woz
      
      Looking at Morrissey’s blog, I really think he needs to get out more. Bit of gardening or something, some sunshine and fresh air.
      
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      November 1, 2018 1:45pm
      - Morrissey
        
        You could be right, Woz. Think I’ll go for a run round the block.
        
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        November 1, 2018 3:08pm
      - Woz
        
        You do that, my good man. We’ll see how you feel about all this stuff when you get back.
        
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        November 1, 2018 4:52pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Good on you, Woz. You’re like some cyber-personal trainer.
        
        https://tenor.com/search/i-love-you-man-gifs
        
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        November 1, 2018 7:39pm
- kowtow
  
  It’s not the Maoris , it’s the Establishment .
  
  All very carefully and deliberately choreographed.
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:37am
- VicParking
  
  I’m sure that when a past representative of the British Crown, Captain Cook, was welcomed by Maori he dined on Pork, Chicken and Goldern steam pudding and then serenaded with a guitar.
  The local Maori newspaper, at the time, then would have called it traditional Kai and Maori Culture.
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:39am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Pork, chicken, wheaten puddings, and stringed musical instruments are not features of Pre-Cook NZ.
    
    First piggies & chookies released in NZ – 1773 (Cook & Furneaux)
    First Wheat planted – 1772 (Crozet on Moturoa Is)
    
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    November 1, 2018 10:48am
  - Piniwi
    
    Right VP they have embraced the haka with their own version from Tommy Tiernan with his car-keys Haka in his Irish/English done with much enthusiasm like a good warm up to the main event. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHh8egL0KVU Lol
    
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    November 1, 2018 10:17pm
- Harkman
  
  I’m still trying to work out the medieval European equivalent of the Haka. Jousting? Hail Mary’s in Latin? Perhaps flaggelation?
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:25am
  - rangitoto
    
    Morris Dancing?
    
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    November 1, 2018 10:12am
  - softail 1450
    
    Harkman, witch burning ,as even back then they didn’t like the shit we are expected to respect here in 2018……..
    
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    November 1, 2018 10:19am
  - Morrissey
    
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    So you hate and despise Maori. Vent at your next S.S. Trust klaven, racist.
    
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    November 1, 2018 10:20am
    - softail 1450
      
      morronisey ,isn’t it benefit day for you ?Its nothing to do with hating Maori,Its completely in my oppinion that the higher placed Maori hate everything Pakeha and find it convenient to blame Pakeha for all of their problems.
      Your blatant virtue signalling can go and get fucked you pompous arse.
      
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      November 1, 2018 10:27am
    - harvey wilson
      
      More gold, are you going to save these posts on your site?
      
      I see you defend Muttonbird too, that loser seems to reviled by all sides of politics for being such a hateful dishonest scumbag.
      
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      November 1, 2018 10:31am
    - Harkman
      
      Who said anything about hating Maori? I’m just trying to find the equivalent of the Haka to Western civilization.
      
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      November 1, 2018 11:28am
      - harvey wilson
        
        It’s a tactic people like him use , he wants you defend yourself rather than stick to the issue. If he knows it works he’ll keep calling you a racist .
        
        This is the level of debate from the woke/far left these days . No honesty, no attempt to find middle ground just disgusting slurs they’ll keep repeating.
        
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        November 1, 2018 12:55pm
      - Colinxy
        
        Gregorian chants?
        
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        November 1, 2018 12:55pm
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Galley rowing; catchy drum solo beat, captive audience, working with natural wood products, sea views, whats not to like?
        
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        November 1, 2018 1:24pm
- Left Right and Centre
  
  Maoris should’ve been the first thing they told Meghan about before she signed up for full membership.
  
  Poor woman.
  
  Then she’s got to sit through all of their cultural heritage like Poi E and Sensitive To A Smile (I actually love the latter song).
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:30am
  - softail 1450
    
    L R C, there has been that much royal hongying going on you could present a donkeys arse to Harry and he’d automatically rub his nose on it ?.
    
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    November 1, 2018 10:16am
    - fluffykiwi
      
      Actually the hongi is incredibly germ spreading. Imagine all those “bugs”, snotty noses. I cannot imagine why it is still allowed. Think of how mouth to mouth resuscitation is now protected by a shield.
      
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      November 1, 2018 5:35pm
- softail 1450
  
  Woz ,one word Woz ,KOHA and heaps of it.
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:43am
- tf78
  
  Why is it that so many Maori with English/Irish surnames embrace their Maori ancestry instead of their European ancestry.
  
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  November 1, 2018 10:44am
  - fluffykiwi
    
    Money, the canoe train so to speak.
    
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    November 1, 2018 5:36pm
- Komata
  
  Woz
  
  ‘Cultural Relevance’ old chap, ‘Cultural Relevance’…
  
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  November 1, 2018 12:30pm
  - Woz
    
    You and Koha have certainly put me right on this one. I understand completely now, and will adjust my attitude accordingly.
    
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    November 1, 2018 1:47pm
Longknives

November already! A Lefty FB friend is bleating on that it’s ‘World Vegan Day’.
I intend then to celebrate at dinner tonight with a nice Scotch Fillet!
Oh and washed down with some pricey liquor….
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November 1, 2018 8:05am
- hmmokrightitis
  
  LK, I googled it, seems it is, who knew. Definitely a night to fire up the Weber then. Ill have to finish work early as my favourite is a slow cooked filet of beef served with hot potato salad smothered in bacon, and a nice glass of Cabernet.
  
  Happy World Vegan Day!!
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:09am
  - Colinxy
    
    Vegans are even more limited about what foods they can eat:
    
    https://www.thekitchn.com/are-avocados-vegan-migratory-bees-263550
    
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    November 1, 2018 10:38am
- VicParking
  
  Eat Vegan today, then you can celebrate ‘The day of the Dead’ tomorrow
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:40am
  - hmmokrightitis
    
    Does it count if you go down on a vegan?
    
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    November 1, 2018 9:07am
    - Woz
      
      Why should you eat vegan if she refuses to eat your meat?
      
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      November 1, 2018 1:48pm
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  Veganism is the new religion for soy boys and self loathing lesbians.
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:55am
- 4077th
  
  If we are not supposed to eat animals why did god make them so delicious?
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:53am
- graham
  
  Damn, wish I’d known, I would have made an effort to find some nice pork chops or similar …
  
  Ah well, the lamb sausages last night (grown right here on the premises) were nice and tasty, I’ll count them as celebrating a day early!
  
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  November 1, 2018 10:14am
- Classic Liberal
  
  I’m going to eat some yummy vegan lamb. So juicy.
  
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  November 1, 2018 10:17am
- lofty
  
  I celebrated it today with gusto, I have just returned from a local cafe after consuming a light “brunch” of bacon, sausages and eggs..bloody good it was.
  
  The green stuff on my plate was bypassed, as I see it as the food my food eats!
  
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  November 1, 2018 12:05pm
- Piniwi
  
  Actually Longknives today is All Saints Day which is when locals go to the centenary to have their evening meal with past family members. It sounds a little spooky but with all the candles being lit there are few dark spaced there. Not my thing but it would seem more appropriate tomorrow as it is All Souls Day but such is the tradition. However there will be plenty of pork and chicken consumed of home prepared dishes with the only stomach complaint being from too much.
  
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  November 1, 2018 10:37pm
secondcumming

SHOULD HE FLY TO WELLINGTON….. OR DRIVE?

It’s reported that *Jamie Lee-Ross* is next due to speak in Parliament during the *General Debate* on 13 December.

He will be speaking under the protection of *Parliamentary Privilege*, and will be immune from any defamation action over anything he says.

Mark it on your calendar 😛
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November 1, 2018 8:06am
- KevOB
  
  How do you purport to know about JLR’s speaking rights?
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:25am
- fernglas
  
  Can anyone explain why they put asterisks around words? Is it some strange Masonic symbol?
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:04am
  - secondcumming
    
    Yep…that, and *shaking hands*
    
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    November 1, 2018 9:14am
- Piniwi
  
  Interesting secondcumming apart from having more than the required 21 days for the ship jumping law to be used. Seemed funny his proxy vote was not included in the party vote count in the house for extending the sitting last night. National 55 votes plus the ACT vote made it 56 against with 63 for. Such a big list of bills again needing urgency to progress forward as we suspect the COL are rapidly getting short of time before the House rises for the summer break. Not helped with with another 2 week R&R break later this month in keeping with Labour’s work ethics.
  
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  November 1, 2018 10:53pm
Justitia

It was good to wake to the news that Asia Bibi, the poor Christian woman kept on death row in Pakistan for 10 years on a blasphemy charge, has been freed by the Supreme Court. Her life remains in great peril however from rioters urged on by muslim clerics. Lees-Galloway should immediately offer to take her as a refugee. But maybe that’s not possible, because it appears on the face of it that New Zealand’s refugee program is managed by the local chapter of the muslim brotherhood. And meanwhile just down the road the Human Rights Commission is no doubt studying Pakistan’s blasphemy law for any learnings which might be implemented here on “disharmonious speech”.
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November 1, 2018 8:08am
- tas
  
  If refugees were all like Asia Bibi, I think there would be little public opposition!
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:10am
  - srylands
    
    Watch this video by a survivor of a farm attack in South Africa. Her husband died.
    
    https://youtu.be/5bhKir8-RTk
    
    I would support New Zealand offering hundreds of these at risk farmers sanctuary here. And we should help them settle. Most of them would make good citizens.
    
    https://youtu.be/5bhKir8-RTk
    
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    November 1, 2018 8:23am
  - GazzaW
    
    How many Christian Iraqis and Syrians will be allowed into NZ under the refugee scheme? None.
    And yet there is a small but strong Christian Iraqi community already in Auckland who arrived during the Saddam era. They are fully integrated, skilled and fully employed and willing to sponsor more of their own.
    
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    November 1, 2018 8:33am
  - Komata
    
    tas
    
    But there would be, and it would come from muslim organisations, Stephieboy, Golly G , Minto, Bradford et al, and most of the NZLP causcus.
    
    (You know; the usual suspects).
    
    Islam is, of course, the current ‘flavour of the month..’
    
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    November 1, 2018 12:35pm
    - lilman
      
      Fuck Mohammed ,the little pedo.
      
      I love watching the USA soldiers send Allan the great
      another batch of rag heads.
      
      I love the smell of shitting Muslims shitting their garb as the drone finds its range.
      
      Best stuff on net.
      
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      November 1, 2018 7:36pm
- Swifty
  
  For the first time yesterday I did some digging on the case of Asia Bibi – having only a cursory understanding of it to date.
  
  What I came across was picture after picture and video after video of men baying for her death as she had ‘insulted the prophet’ and that any members of the judiciary or government who fails to have her killed must also die.
  
  The main proponent is this bloke (but he’s by no means alone):
  
  https://twitter.com/KhadimRizviReal/status/1050688313345155072
  
  Primitive, superstitious, murderous, vile, inhuman – the list of adjectives to describe this guy and his movement is endless. What’s worse is that this guy has real influence in Pakistani affairs.
  
  And some people object when I say NZ will be poorer with more Islam.
  
  (And Stiffy, don’t you even think about labelling me alt-right or a racist)
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:22am
  - lastmanstanding
    
    Islam is a medieval culture grounded in Dark Ages. Unlike Christianity that has evolved over two Centuries and moved with the times Islam has stayed stuck in its outdated beliefs.
    
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    November 1, 2018 9:15am
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      You mean two millenia. 🙂
      
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      November 1, 2018 3:55pm
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        Not really.
        The Christians were pretty slow to evolve, but at least they’re making an effort.
        
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        November 1, 2018 9:55pm
- Woz
  
  That woman actually deserves safe refuge somewhere. But we’ll let that Czech mongrel stay here, when all he deserves is a solid kick up the arse as he’s thrown onto the next plane heading for Prague.
  
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  November 1, 2018 1:52pm
- MH
  
  she will be dead in a week if she goes home….we are her witnesses, God help her.
  I heard a supporter was already killed.
  
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  November 1, 2018 2:08pm
artemisia

Ms Collins has issued a press release about state house security issues in the McLennan development, following on from a Question in the House yesterday.

Seems there is a problem with door locking systems and Housing NZ is not acting to remedy. One state house tenant has been burgled three times in two weeks, with the latest burglary defined by police as “aggravated burglary with intent to rape” and entry achieved with a screwdriver.

Seems the 600 home McLennan development is to have 15% social housing – that would be about 90 homes in a highly concentrated environment. I hope Kiwibuild and on-market buyers are aware and check their security systems very very carefully..
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November 1, 2018 8:09am
- dave_c_
  
  But, but but… Aren’t these modern affordable homes meant to be ‘state of the art’, made from latest technology solutions ?
  Bollocks, these new homes are a rip-off.
  Having said that, a friend once indicated to me (and I’ll never forget it) that is a burglar wants to get into your home, all they have to do is break a window.
  Note: This can be done in a very quiet manner, so there is no real security – other than every home is attached to monitored alarms etc. I don’t see that being very reliable either, as by the time either police or security companies arrive, the burglar is long gone.
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:18am
  - Jules99
    
    Probably doesn’t help that the homes are right next to an area with one of the highest crime rates in Auckland.
    
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    November 1, 2018 8:28am
  - KevOB
    
    Door locks are barely significant to a qualified burglar. External lights and neighbourhood surveillance are more effective.
    
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    November 1, 2018 8:30am
  - godruelf
    
    Big dog helps as well
    
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    November 1, 2018 8:42am
    - sooty
      
      Wondering at will on the inside!
      
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      November 1, 2018 8:48am
  - lastmanstanding
    
    These areas will be slums in 5 years. Where I live they tried this so called pepper potting when the area was developed in the late 1970s. Thank God only a few State Houses were built although lately HC have been taking down the originals and replacing with 3 on each section as they are the good old quarter acre.
    So over the years visitors to the area have been easily able to “Spot the State House”
    
    Telltale signs include
    Grass not mowed.
    Kids toys all over the front yard
    Car wrecks on front lawn.
    Broken windows
    Peeling paint.
    
    Contrast that with the owner occupier houses either side
    
    Lawns mowed
    Tidy yards
    Well maintained.
    
    But of course we aren’t allowed to say such things now that the Thought Police are in control.
    
    1984 here we come.
    
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    November 1, 2018 9:22am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      The Thought Police who wouldn’t want to live in such an area themselves, but know all about how right it is for other people…
      
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      November 1, 2018 10:29am
    - artemisia
      
      lastmanstanding, that is too simplistic. I’ve been in many state houses (in official capacity) and some wer immaculate. Especially older and Pacific Island tenants. Most places were average, some were dreadful. The usual distribution curve but skewed towards to the dreadful end.
      
      The big recent change, apart from the waiting list doubling in the past 2 years, is the large number of single working age people – nearly half- emphasis on age, not working. Some of these will have issues which make them dodgy neighbours. In a concentrated environment only need a couple off their meds or on self medication to be a real problem.
      
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      November 1, 2018 11:35am
    - Woz
      
      Yup, that was my old street. Nice old 50s houses, many of them done up nicely, as ours was. But there were a bunch of state houses studded around the area, and they were dead easy to spot.
      
      More recently, the elderly owner-occupier of one half of a duplex unit right on the corner of our present street passed on. The family put the unit up for sale and it was bought by… HNZ. The other half of the duplex is still beautifully maintained by its lovely elderly owners. Beautiful garden, smart little car in the garage, mown berm, all that stuff. But the HNZ half has grass literally up to the window sills (I am NOT exaggerating), rubbish up and down the path, rugby flags hanging in the windows, crappy old cars parked outside on the street, grass growing in the spouting… you get the picture. Must be heartbreaking and stressful for the old couple in the other half. Every time I go past the hovel half I feel like marching in there and hammering the door down and telling the scumbags to clean their fucking shit up.
      
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      November 1, 2018 2:14pm
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  Forget that for a game of soldiers. With that kind of ratio of deadbeats it will be a slum in no time. Your have to be pretty desperate to buy a house there after that anouncment.
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:57am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Twitford was going on in the House yesterday about how the new State houses will be indistinguishable from the privately-owned houses in the same complex.
    Give it 5 years and you’ll know exactly which ones they are.
    
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    November 1, 2018 9:59am
    - Padriv Ustoev
      
      2 years.
      
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      November 1, 2018 10:06am
      - igm
        
        I think 6 months!
        
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        November 1, 2018 10:17am
      - tf78
        
        A month would do it with the lawns not mowed.
        
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        November 1, 2018 11:11am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      State houses now allow pets. While I’m not against a well-trained, well looked after dog, how many of these State houses will have chained up, vicious, untrained dogs pooing on the front lawn and barking at neighbours all day?
      
      Maybe I’m wrong and there will just be nice little fluffy friends for old ladies, as the change was justified by the govt.
      
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      November 1, 2018 10:36am
      - Colinxy
        
        Correction: State houses have allowed pets for decades.
        
        Tenancy and property managers at Housing NZ even have protocols surrounding the health hazards of fleas due to the keeping of such pets.
        
        Private landlords will begin to enjoy this feature due to the generosity of the government in the near future.
        
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        November 1, 2018 10:41am
      - Piniwi
        
        Naturally Classic Liberal while also something for private rentals to look forward to. Even most unruly dogs do not crap in their own patch unless confined but the fun starts when a bitch is on heat. Dogs can pickup the sent from a far now which if the dog population increases will be fun to watch 24/7 as animal lust never sleeps. Leading to a much bigger “cute” puppy population where there will be give away’s and lots of cheap gifts that survive the sack in the river alternative.
        
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        November 1, 2018 11:42pm
    - Komata
      
      Probably even sooner; just drive around in your car with its windows down.
      
      Odds on that the dwelling from which the most bass eminates (ie the bass which makes the most things in your car ‘buzz’), is a ‘State’ place…
      
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      November 1, 2018 12:40pm
    - Woz
      
      Twatford just leaves me speechless.
      
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      November 1, 2018 2:15pm
    - Piniwi
      
      But Captain judging by the lock issue that extends to the doors as well as the door frames the material differences are not so conspicuous in their finished new condition. However as this unfortunate lady tenant has found out they a lot more distinguishable to the occupants. Burgled 3 times in 2 weeks with the level of threat being increased with each next one is not much of a place for security minded people. Concerned enough to have the work done but HNZ would not reimburse her. We might also expect the lottery couple might do very well to break even if they sell after 3 years considering the interest they will have paid, rates and insurance premiums. While all being subject to finding a willing buyer not concerned about the location issues. It will be a space to watch like those reminders on FB of what you posted 1, 2 or 3 years ago. Lol
      
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      November 1, 2018 11:26pm
- Rich Prick
  
  Locks only keep honest people out, not your affordable neighbours.
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:09am
  - igm
    
    In one instance, they have paid $160,000 over CV for a 2 brm townhouse built in 1980s (paid $389,000), which I reckon had a realistic sale price of $275,000. Good thing is we have a couple for sale in the area, and it has bumped the price up considerably. Keep it up Labour I can make a killing!
    
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    November 1, 2018 10:21am
- Classic Liberal
  
  Twitford kept using that horrible expression ‘happy to find out’ after challenged with these facts by Judith Collins.
  
  So Twitford was totally unaware of this aggravated burglary with intent to rape, but is *happy* to find out about it.
  
  Why can’t he at least use decent wording? A politician should have a much better way of expressing himself.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jifWoXPyQQQ
  
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  November 1, 2018 11:00am
- Piniwi
  
  Thanks artemisia pictorial evidence was tabled by her in the house today but we had to laugh at Twiford’s poor numeric skills on display yesterday. He started an answer about the 15% limit National put on the development then said the actual number of HNZ owned or leaded was 28? Made funnier by the Speaker rejecting Judith Collins point of order of the question not being answered. He too seemed confused with the math and said the question had been addressed. After a dazed look and a chuckle she said yes she had more questions to the Speakers question if there were more.
  
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  November 1, 2018 11:04pm
kowtow

What passes for “art” these days……..

“I expressed the penis’s libido and inability for self-control through the movement of this nearly lifelike phallus,” she said.”

https://www.dw.com/en/german-artist-welcomes-attention-after-man-breaks-her-ceramic-penis-artwork/a-46108095
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November 1, 2018 8:10am
oldpark

Wonder why NZs “Nemesis in the Woodpile” Foxy Peters is supporting the clown for all seasons Lees- Galloway in his Vehement attitude and he knows best in keeping the international drug peddler Karel Sroubek in NZ. What the fugh is going on.
Also maybe he is committed to support the small town twerp Ardern who it now appears to have fughed up again,with her also supporting the rights of the drug smuggler Karel Sroubek. Certainly not a good look in her Government’s journey to make NZ the Socialist Republic of the South Pacific.Or is it a cunning plan to make NZ a haven for international crooks on the run.Go figure.
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November 1, 2018 8:12am
KevOB

I have never known a “govt” like this one. In Parliament they are all prrepped up for the day to blame the Opposition and laugh their way through QT. It’s like a kindergarten.

Simon has been biding his time. This COL has been destroying itself. It prefers KiwiBuild housing for the rich and “social” housing for the rest. With communism wealth and control always percolates to the top.

“Hard” decisions become easy when no responsibility rules. Reading between the lines the PM is a fool and her Minister deluded. Even without new evidence we gain nothing but concern adopting a recidivist drug dealer as a Kiwi.

Simon is showing his mettle. The Opposition have so much more depth: this COL is toast or pig food.
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November 1, 2018 8:15am
- Felt
  
  Cindy’s kindy!
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:01am
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  The thing is this isn’t even communism. In communist theory you had the responsibility to work in order to get something from the state. This is just chaos. Throwing money around for no understandable benefit.
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:02am
  - Komata
    
    Padriv
    
    But there IS a benefit; Votes; ‘votes for the ‘caring. kindly, concerned’ coalition.
    
    That said coalition has actually made you worse off than you have ever been in your life is totally irrelevant; they really ‘care’ (at least, that is the MSM narrative, repeated ad nauseum), and sadly, as we have seen over the last year, there are those who would quite happily vote them in forever, based on that fact alone…
    
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    November 1, 2018 12:44pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I agree.
  The CoL is very afraid of Simon.
  
  Jacinda’s honeymoon is well and truly over.
  
  She’s no longer a novelty… the international media have lost interest…she has lost her gloss.
  
  Her caucus is a cobble of incompetents…she can’t fudge them away.
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:13am
  - sooty
    
    She’s at least 25 yrs over youth adjacent.
    She’s old, saggy and baggy know and had to double wrap her ass to perform at the UN.
    
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    November 1, 2018 9:36am
    - softail 1450
      
      sooty,”double wrap her ass”,,,ha,ha,ha,he,LOL. I needed a laugh …..its comic gold going back over the days posts,,,excellent .
      
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      November 1, 2018 7:37pm
  - dave_c_
    
    Indeed – explains the ‘ranting behaviour’ in parliament the last few days. Heading for divorce territory I suspect.
    
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    November 1, 2018 9:44am
    - Komata
      
      dave_c_
      
      It would be ‘Separation’ rather than ‘Divorce’ as the SLG ‘still’ isn’t married and ‘Solo Motherhood’ is SSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOO cool and Twenty-first Century Feminist…
      
      (It would also seem that the fisherman has other fish to ‘fry’)
      
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      November 1, 2018 12:50pm
  - tf78
    
    No, no, no Maggy I read it today that she is the most “Charismatic” leader in the whole wide world!
    
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    November 1, 2018 4:43pm
- GazzaW
  
  I think DPF should start a new metering service to go with the trees and the houses. We need to measure how many times Ministers use the phrase ‘due to neglect during nine years under National’ during the course of Question Time. They all use it incessantly and it’s getting very boring.
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:21am
  - VicParking
    
    Already “The last nine years” is eight of National and one of Labour/COL. By 2020 it will be Six/Three.
    
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    November 1, 2018 11:19am
- Piniwi
  
  Right KevOB it is starting to show the benefits of establishing a strong team unity while the COL were self harming now that is starting to pay off. They are developing strong forces in the House as more of them take the charge especially since the Speaker has been measured. Questions are being constructed to conform with Mallards new rules gaining more value by being persistent and pointed. Now even Mallard is finding the COL’s question responses “tedious” and is frequently instructing them to try again or cut the crap of firing barbs at the opposition. The biggest challenge is calling the COL to account for ALL the rapidly increasing number of targets they are providing. Added to which the number of incompetent Ministers has been established at a much greater level than expected with others still to get a chance to fail. We also had a glimpse of a much better level of discipline today as the important supplementary allocation was never threatened by their actions. They were further assisted by the Speaker becoming increasingly critical of Minsters avoiding questions. Great way to end the weeks OQT.
  
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  November 2, 2018 12:03am
holysheet

Donald Trump was arguing with Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Hillary Clinton and Barrack Obama as to whom God really was. Nancy started off that God was a Democrat from California as he welcomed the downtrodden into her state. Chuck chuckled and retorted that God was a New Yorker because all of his laws are written down, like NY judges they are no where to be found. Hillary argued that God was a woman otherwise man would have no one to argue with. Barack calmly walked up to the group and presented the fact that God was a transsexual as his laws and love were meant for all of the sexes. Donald by now was getting ready to Tweet before Barrack grabbed his arm and demanded that he just rebut these views there and then and leave the media out of the discussion.
Donald was delighted and beside himself not having to deal with the one-sided media and seeing Barrack shared his views of them.
“God was a Democrat …” Donald loudly proclaimed. Pelosi plastic face cracked, Chuck’s heart gave out, Hillary had a fatal stroke, but Barrack remaining asked Donald why he would give such his political foes such a compliment.
Donald finished by saying, “God was a Democrat…who else could have created chaos in the universe and all of the confusion in the US?”
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November 1, 2018 8:16am
- Morrissey
  
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  No problems with anyone poking fun at those moral imbeciles Obama, Pelosi, Schumer, and Clinton. But that “joke” was as funny as pulling a woollen mitten over a handful of hangnails.
  
  MASSIVE FAIL.
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:47am
  - sooty
    
    Only in your opinion!
    Do we care what “your” opinion is?
    No, we do not!
    
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    November 1, 2018 8:53am
    - Morrissey
      
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      A few other people seem to agree with my assessment of that dismally unfunny “joke”.
      
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      November 1, 2018 8:54am
      - sooty
        
        Yes, you are right! As you rightly say “few”!
        
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        November 1, 2018 9:31am
      - pentwig
        
        yep
        your mate stoopidboy
        
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        November 1, 2018 9:46am
      - harvey wilson
        
        Is Muttonbird one of them? He’s the npcs npc
        
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        November 1, 2018 12:13pm
  - softail 1450
    
    morronissey, forever the virtue signaller.
    those people are your heroes ,stop saying they are not .
    
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    November 1, 2018 7:41pm
    - Morrissey
      
      Obama, Clinton, Schumer, and Pelosi are my heroes???!!?!?!?
      
      I’ve written extended, repeated putdowns of every one of those four on The Standard and been vilified by the “liberal” drips there for my troubles. None more so than for this little effort from January 2014….
      
      https://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2018/01/its-michelle-obamas-marie-antoinette.html
      
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      November 1, 2018 9:18pm
DigNap15

The ANZ Business Confidence survey out yesterday has not got much publicity.
Maybe because the figures are steady.

But the Elephant in the room for the COL is that confidence in business owner’s own business is down.
They say they will employ less people and invest less.
Not good news for the economy or the tax take.
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November 1, 2018 8:20am
- KevOB
  
  “But we are on track…and these surveys always show Labour…
  
  Poohbah is going to wish he never had the position. Incompetents taking over from competents is never an easy transition.
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:35am
secondcumming

I read where ANZ’s *David Hisco*, CEO of the New Zealand franchise, is crediting the Bank’s record *$2 Billion* profit….”on the strength of the New Zealand economy, the low dollar, and continued growth in household incomes”

No mention of the Bank’s exorbitant fees and excessive charges then, Dave?
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November 1, 2018 8:20am
- peterwn
  
  You do not have to use ANZ or the other Oz owned banks. Kiwibank, Co-operative Bank and Heartland Bank, etc offer local Kiwi banking services.
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:26am
  - DigNap15
    
    Yes if people (including me) don’t like these excessive profits, and the fact that they go to Australia!
    They can and should look at banking with other banks that are NZ owned as listed above.
    And get your mortgage from them as well
    
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    November 1, 2018 8:30am
  - GazzaW
    
    The TSB is bloody brilliant and offers a full range of banking services. The big bonus is that I get to speak to real people.
    
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    November 1, 2018 9:13am
- DigNap15
  
  I’d like to know how the banks make their money these days.
  Years ago they charged 20 cents per transaction.
  Then Monthly account fees.
  
  But then KiwiBank came in and did away with these fees. The other banks copied them.
  
  So how do they make their money nowadays?
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:42am
  - fernglas
    
    You should try sending money overseas; the rate is about 3% less than the proper exchange rate, and you get pinged for a transfer fee as well.
    
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    November 1, 2018 9:13am
  - peterwn
    
    Kiwibank has re-introduced some fees – $1 to deposit a cheque and new fees for ordering cheque and deposit books. And this applies to over 65’s too.
    Banks make their profits on lending – mortgages and credit card debt. There is risk to the bank so this justifies a profit. Then banks are required to have specified amounts of share capital to cover risks. These shareholders face losing their investment if the bank gets into significant trouble. The profits and dividends reward them for taking the risk.
    It is easy to buy shares in the ‘big four’ banks – via a sharebroker or internet trading account. You will enjoy reasonable dividends, BUT you could lost the lot. When making an investment decision on this, perhaps assume you will lose the lot in 20 years time, so the dividends must cover this potential loss as well as providing a reasonable return. If you cannot afford to lose the investment then don’t. Instead buy shares backed by hard assets – power generation companies, airports, commercial property companies etc.
    
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    November 1, 2018 9:35am
- GazzaW
  
  Change banks sc or negotiate with the ANZ to reduce your bank fees.
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:14am
Poppa

On my drive home last night I heard Soper telling Larry that he was the one who alerted Sleeze Galloway to new info.

We knew Soper was a closet lefty but this was some admission
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November 1, 2018 8:23am
- secondcumming
  
  Perhaps Barry should replace…. Greg Patchell?
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:29am
hullkiwi

ILG, I’m confident after careful consideration I made the right decision.

SLG, it was the correct decision, and if you read between the lines you will understand why it was the correct decision.

The Toxic Gnome – it was a difficult decision to make, on the facts presented it was the correct decision.

Last night the Czech’s lawyer – I was not aware he had travelled back to the Czech Republic. We will have to look into those claims.

Today on the radio:
1. ILG we will have to look I to the veracity of the new information provided; and

2. The Toxic Gnome – the letter issued by ILG gives the Immigration Minizter grounds to rescind the decision of it is found the original decision was based on inaccurate information.

There is a phrase best encapsulated in the 3 letters “FFS”, you couldn’t make this lot of lies and loves of incompotent decision making if you tried.

10 to 1, I bet:
1. The close relationship is between the Czech’s lawyer & the Labour prty;
2. ILG’s review of the case file was half baked, I doubt he asked any pertinent questions, & I doubt he read the last the adjudication of the Czech’s parole board hearing;
3. Serious questions need to be asked about the Czrch’s legal advisors in 2011 & his current lawyer; and
4. It is almost certain that neither the SLG or Peter’s have read any paperwork on this case.

These people are lazy incompotent liars. As a NZ voter & taxpayer, using whatever the current consumer protection legislation is, I would like to send the SLG, the Toxic Gnome and ILG back to the vendor/distributor and get our money back!
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November 1, 2018 8:24am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Yep,
  my reading between the lines reckons there is a very interesting backstory here.
  
  1. Who had been financing him when he first arrived in NZ?
  (Do kickboxers make Big Money in NZ?)
  2. What are his links (and his mother’s) with Eastern European crime networks?
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:26am
  - stephieboy
    
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    MW, that is something that successive governments could have followed up on?
    
    Wouldn’t the conviction for possession of a false passport in 2011 sent alarm bells?
    
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    November 1, 2018 9:33am
    - Left Right and Centre
      
      There he is !!
      I only came here 80-90% to find you and red tick.
      Sweet.
      
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      November 1, 2018 9:38am
  - rangitoto
    
    I read that he had a legit business importing Crystal from Czech Republic. I guess it wasn’t making enough dosh so he turned to crime.
    
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    November 1, 2018 12:06pm
Lance

TV3’s AM show was a bloody disgrace this morning.
Garner was in full troll mode, accusing Woodhouse of doing the same as Lees-Galloway when he was minister. Woodhouse pointed out the one instance he referred to was made by an official and he legally couldn’t change it after the fact.
Garner basicly then called him a LIAR
WTF???
Then went on to talk utter shit about lots of other cases Woodhouse let through. Asked for any details Garner had none, instead demanding he resign.
If there are any doubts Garner is anything more than a far lefty troll, all doubts have now been removed, what a cock.
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November 1, 2018 8:26am
- Lance
  
  Woodhouse was far too polite
  He wouldn’t have pulled that shit on Winston or Judith Collins unless he wanted a new asshole
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:30am
- oldpark
  
  @Lance.
  Maybe #Meetoo could be interested in Garner if the wee girl in Thorndon Florist shop made a complaint, surely not.. Nuff said.
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:44am
  - Inandout
    
    oldpark, in the US and regardless of which ‘notable’ it was, any scandal would be published. In NZ our media are puppies.
    
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    November 1, 2018 8:58am
    - sooty
      
      You would need investigative journalist first. We don’t have any!
      
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      November 1, 2018 9:24am
- oldgolfer
  
  Cock is right.
  Gives me the shits.
  In another life I was asked to go on the show.
  I said no and the producer asked why.
  I had no hesitation saying why.
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:50am
  - Chris2
    
    Oldgolfer – I had the exact same experience last year. I was called by Garner’s Producer inviting me on to the show and I turned her down too, saying Garner had already expressed strong negative views on the area they wanted me to appear on so why would I want to give him the opportunity to express his uninformed view on a topic he actually knew nothing about? The Producer was taken aback that I should decline to appear!
    
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    November 1, 2018 10:12am
- Harkman
  
  So last night I was stuck in traffic after 6PM and put on Radiolive’s 3 News feed and man it was terrible. One News is bad enough, 3 maybe worse. The reporter was literally orgasming at the royal visit.
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:33am
- stephieboy
  
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  Garner was recently receiving fulsome praise from the likes of you for his trenchant criticism of the PM.
  
  He, therefore, must be doing his job and that includes not suckering up to rabid righters like you!
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:35am
- geoff3012
  
  And his fuckwit female sidekick…..must give Richardson the screamers.
  
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  November 1, 2018 10:20am
artemisia

A sharp drop in intended residential and commercial construction activity is one of the notable features in the latest ANZ Business Outlook Survey.

Just as well we have Kiwibuild to take up the spare capacity. Unless developers are not interested in the small profits at the small end of town.

Oh well, plenty of opportunities for skilled workers over the ditch.

http://www.interest.co.nz/business/96642/anzs-latest-business-outlook-survey-shows-confidence-has-steadied-remains-low-levels
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November 1, 2018 8:29am
- GazzaW
  
  Spot on. The exodus to Aussie has restarted. Our neighbour’s son has a highly successful building business and is upping sticks and heading for Brisbane. Taranaki oil workers have been on the move since Wood’s announcement and heading for Queensland and WA and the massive LNG projects. They can’t afford to ‘wait and see’, they have families to feed.
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:48am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Thanks for giving them quick certainty, Taxinda: they know they need to leave asap.
    
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    November 1, 2018 11:21am
- Classic Liberal
  
  I certainly wouldn’t want to invest or live in the aggravated burglary with intent to rape part of town!
  
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  November 1, 2018 11:20am
waikatogirl

Police members have just accepted a pay offer of 3% per year over the next 3 years. Sounds reasonable.
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November 1, 2018 8:32am
- Lance
  
  You mean unlike some other lefty unionised professions they aren’t going to stamp their feet and demand unreasonable pay rises and drag out sob stories of how they are actually living the four Yorkshiremen sketch ?
  They are just not getting into the CoL spirit of things are they.
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:38am
  - GazzaW
    
    Police graduates start on $55 – $60k a year after sixteen weeks training. New teachers start on $47k a year after three years study.
    
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    November 1, 2018 8:52am
    - kowtow
      
      Cops are on shifts , subject to discipline and have to daily face up to all sorts of shit. That’s just for starters.
      
      Frontline police don’t get paid nearly enough for the crap they deal with every day .
      
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      November 1, 2018 8:57am
      - Inandout
        
        Cops are expert at the haka though, and this talent comes before understanding the law. Believe me, that organisation is now soaked in PC shit.
        
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        November 1, 2018 9:00am
      - Longknives
        
        Correct Inandout.
        A young guy from my cricket team just graduated Police College- He says the Maori component of the course seemed to be of most importance. (Maori introductions, Maori Prayers etc)
        He tells me it was endless and seemed like half the course.
        He was a little bemused by this as was hoping to learn more Self Defence and Firearm skills to keep himself (and the public) safe!
        Oh and they have moved away from the Military style ‘Pakeha model’ of training- So no more marching or addressing your Superiors by rank etc…
        
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        November 1, 2018 9:52am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        And for all the gender equality, I guess female cops are expected to shut up and sit at the back at maraes, and wear the hijab at mosques?
        
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        November 1, 2018 11:24am
      - VicParking
        
        Cops don’t get Four blocks of Holidays a year. Start at 9 and finish at three.
        
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        November 1, 2018 11:24am
    - Lance
      
      Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
      Teaching and Policing are identical jobs?
      
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      November 1, 2018 8:58am
      - GazzaW
        
        I didn’t say they were but they are entitled to go for more than 3%.
        
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        November 1, 2018 9:07am
      - sooty
        
        With the way they are breeding the ferals, it won’t belong and teachers will need the same skill set.
        
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        November 1, 2018 9:21am
      - Morrissey
        
        Teachers don’t get away with beating kids up.
        
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        November 1, 2018 10:24am
      - dime
        
        lol @ entitled
        
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        November 1, 2018 11:37am
    - mandk
      
      Nothing wrong with that.
      
      Policing can be dangerous and it requires unsocial hours of work.
      
      Teaching can be arduous, but teachers have themselves to blame for their poor salaries. They allow themselves to be represented by trades unions instead of a professional body.
      
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      November 1, 2018 9:03am
      - Morrissey
        
        What an ignorant and foolish thing to say. You know nothing about teaching or about the teacher associations.
        
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        November 1, 2018 10:25am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        I do. Teaching is an exhausting job with high stress levels but nice long holidays.
        
        Policing is an exhausting job with high stress levels during which you are likely to suffer physical harm.
        
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        November 1, 2018 11:27am
      - dime
        
        teachers are usually just fucking slow at what they do.
        
        “we work for hours and hours at home” – yeah, cause you are bad planners and not that bright.
        
        fuck em, teachers knew the pay scale before they joined.
        
        most teachers looked at it before they became teachers and thought – what a sweet gig!!! then they get in and slowly become bitter as older teachers tell them how shit they have it etc
        
        teachers are overpaid.
        
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        November 1, 2018 11:39am
      - mandk
        
        Apologies Morrisey, I reported you by mistake.
        
        But I do know about teaching. I have taught myself and I have been married to two teachers.
        
        As for teaching associations, they protect the useless, hinder the gifted and keep salaries low.
        
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        November 1, 2018 12:46pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Apologies Morrisey, I reported you by mistake.
        
        Not a problem, my friend. I’ve accidentally reported people here while trying to reply to them. It’s a design fault, which possibly explains my average of 35 Dislikes per post.
        
        But I do know about teaching. I have taught myself and I have been married to two teachers.
        
        Sorry about my intemperate outburst. I was having an O.J. moment there.
        
        As for teaching associations, they protect the useless,
        
        They provide advocacy for teachers. Useless teachers don’t survive. Some of them become loud and obnoxious radio talkback hosts.
        
        …hinder the gifted
        
        I know many gifted teachers. Not one of them is in teaching for more money. Every one of them is a staunch PPTA member. Vulgar ignorami like Mike Hosking chase money; it’s a compensation for the fact that, in stark contrast to teachers, they’re not doing anything of any value.
        
        … and keep salaries low.
        
        How so?
        
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        November 1, 2018 2:56pm
    - DigNap15
      
      Yes police need to be paid well
      They have a dangerous job to do
      And we do not want to have corrupt police like in Mexico, Thailand and Brazil etc.
      
      I would pay teachers less while they stay in their unions!
      
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      November 1, 2018 9:12am
      - Inandout
        
        Dig, I am beginning to believe the UK police bosses are now corrupt in a political sense, and this is filtering down the ranks. In the 1960s the UK police were commonly in the pay of organised crime.
        
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        November 1, 2018 9:28am
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        inandout
        
        ‘In the 1960s the UK police were commonly in the pay of organised crime’
        
        Citation required.
        
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        November 1, 2018 9:44am
      - MH
        
        If I’ve told yer once I’ve told yer 100’s times-85% of teachers are sheilas, there’s the problem esp with dealing with boys from solo mums. Stop calling them teachers- without the gender included.
        And yes some are brilliant but so what with the majority being average sheilas dealing with boys who are desperately looking for role models and true men holding tight to the Rules of Rugby Union where the ref is the sole arbitrator of the rules and time.
        
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        November 1, 2018 2:29pm
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        Granted we’re not like Mexico, Thailand, Brazil but sadly our Police are not as un-corrupt as they should be.
        
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        November 1, 2018 10:19pm
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    That was my point. Being reasonable instead of demanding more than they are worth, and still have to deal with the scum every day ?
    
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    November 1, 2018 9:13am
    - MCos
      
      Teachers can have a dangerous job too; there are some hyped up pupils, but often the parents are worse plus the ‘associates’ of the pupils. Not just the lower decile schools either.
      I once refed half a little kids rugby game. The parents lined up on the sidelines were like baying hounds. This was a cross section of NZ society who all thought my decisions had a bearing on whether or not their eight year old kids would make the ABs.
      I chucked it in at halftime. My boy never became an All Black, but he’s now a teacher!!
      
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      November 1, 2018 9:44am
      - MH
        
        don’t give up-a copy of boys own is on its way. Your son is a man teacher….it starts here.
        
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        November 1, 2018 2:31pm
      - gorse
        
        Every murderer has been to school, in fact every criminal has been to school. Surprised more teachers aren’t assaulted.
        
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        November 1, 2018 7:20pm
    - dave_c_
      
      “Entitle-ism” reigns supreme these days.
      
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      November 1, 2018 9:50am
secondcumming

Driving home late from the gun-club last night, I picked up a lone hitch-hiker near the Southern Motorway. He seemed quite a nice young bloke, and was a little surprised that I’d actually stopped.
He jokingly asked, “How do you know I’m not a serial killer?” I replied, “It would be a million to one chance there were two of us in the car”
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November 1, 2018 8:41am
- Fletch
  
  You shoulda said, it’s OK, I’m just coming back from the gun club and I’ve got one in the back…
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:11am
  - MCos
    
    That’s like saying if you want to shoot me there’s a gun in the back seat.
    
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    November 1, 2018 9:23am
- fluffykiwi
  
  I find wearing white pyjamas and a prominent black belt works.
  
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  November 1, 2018 5:41pm
Fletch

I’m not a Jon Stewart fan, but he kind of gets to the nub of why the media hate Trump. It’s because Trump attacked their reporting, and they are so narcissistic that they are taking it as a personal attack and their egos can’t handle it. It’s not that “his policies are silly or not working or any of those other things, it’s all about the fight.” Stewart also says it is a fight that Trump will win.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U35yEXHGjBA
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November 1, 2018 8:46am
- kowtow
  
  I believe the msm save their worst smears for any politicians of the right who they perceive to be a genuine threat to their activist agenda.
  
  Compare and contrast the treatment of Abbott by the media (including our own) to that of Turnbull and indeed Brash to that of Key.
  
  Here they really did set out to “deligitimise” Brash , while the progressive Key had a very long honeymoon .
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:48am
  - stephieboy
    
    kowtow, Brash was a poor politician, unlike his successor.
    
    The former was vote catching poison!
    
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    November 1, 2018 9:51am
stephieboy

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We learn from TM Opinion and Politics that Michael Woodhouse scorned an own goal with Duncan Garner on AM when it was disclosed that he as Minister allowed a reconvicted sex offender to stay here,

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11844260

Obviously, a law needs changing and quickly!
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November 1, 2018 8:47am
- GazzaW
  
  Put the squirrels back in the cage steffie. ILG has been caught with his pants down and totally negligent in carrying out his duties. The law doesn’t need changing but the Minister does. Expect an announcement tomorrow afternoon carefully timed to miss the evening news deadlines. Another Black Friday for Labour.
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:56am
- sooty
  
  Did they let you stay! Stoopidboy. I don’t think you should be skitting!
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:04am
- KevOB
  
  Find me another example of a Minister letting a recidivist drug dealer and likely sociopath join the Kiwi flock.
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:05am
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    The Nats had their chances when the Czech reoffended under their watch!
    
    2003: Entered NZ with a false passport
    2010: Arrested with two Hells Angels on aggravated robbery and blackmail charges. Guilt not proven beyond reasonable doubt.
    2011: Found guilty of using false passport and giving false details to Immigration officials
    2011: Arrested as part of Operation Ark, a covert investigation into Ecstasy-like pills.
    2012: Discharged without conviction on false identity charges
    2014: Convicted of manufacturing Class-C drug from Operation Ark arrest. Conviction overturned but Crown abandons second trial
    2014: Arrested importing 5kg of MDMA, a Class-B controlled drug, used in Ecstasy.
    2016: Convicted of importing MDMA and jailed for five years and nine months
    
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    November 1, 2018 9:11am
    - waikatogirl
      
      The Czech never made an application to the minister while National were in charge, so no, nothing to blame National for.
      Try again…
      
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      November 1, 2018 9:18am
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        waikatogirl,I would have thought any of those offences he was convicted after 2003 would be enough grounds for the National minister to expel him from NZ.
        
        Why didn’t they act e.g, 2011 for using a false passport?
        
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        November 1, 2018 9:28am
      - tas
        
        stephieboy: In 2011 he was discharged without conviction. No conviction means it never made it to the Minister’s desk.
        
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        November 1, 2018 10:00am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        Stephie; read the list again. The only offence Stroubek has actually been CONVICTED for is the one for which he is currently in prison. He was DISCHARGED WITHOUT CONVICTION on the passport offence, which meant the government was unable to trigger the deportation process. A known activist judge gave him a second chance.
        
        Also note that he first entered New Zealand, on a false passport, in 2003. Just for the record, Helen Clark’s Labour government was in charge then, and just two years after 9/11, you would have thought that border security was a little more stringent. And lastly, when he went back to the Czech Republic in 2007, and returned safely, Labour was still in charge, and Winston Peters, who is pushing the bollocks about Woodhouse, was Foreign Minister.
        
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        November 1, 2018 10:03am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        StuffedBoy is becoming a fascist: instead of our legal system being based on ‘innocent until proven guilty’, he’d like unpleasant people thrown out of the country or into jail even if there isn’t enough evidence to convict them.
        
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        November 1, 2018 11:33am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Don’t you remember.. you’ve already posted Antolik’s convictions here a couple of days ago.
      
      Your dozy Labour Government apparatchiks didn’t pick up this dodgy guy in 2003.. when dozy Dalziel was in charge of Immigration.
      
      And do you remember who Helen put in charge of Immigration in 2004?
      
      It was Mary-Anne Thompson who was so busy letting her rellies into the country that she forgot to do her PhD.
      
      Now it’s great that the Nats are starting to sort out Labour’s mess, doncha think?
      
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      November 1, 2018 9:37am
      - pentwig
        
        ah Maggie
        Your hubby is such a lucky man.
        Brains and beauty.
        poor steffiething
        
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        November 1, 2018 9:56am
      - stephieboy
        
        MW , the Nats had plenty of chances since 2009. Why did they not act during that time?
        
        Why?
        
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        November 1, 2018 9:57am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        Why did they not act during that time?
        
        Why?
        
        Because he hadn’t been convicted of anything, and we have this thing called the presumption of innocence. He was finally convicted of something in 2014 (under National), and deportation was ordered at the conclusion of his sentence of imprisonment.
        
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        November 1, 2018 10:08am
lastmanstanding

Can anyone help me with the lies Sleeze and Cindy have told about their mate the drug dealer.

1. We were told he would be killed by either the Police or the Gangs if he went home. We now know he has been home and lived to tell the tale.

2. We were told NZ was a signatory to an unnamed international agreement that meant we have to let him stay.
So if Sleeze revokes his PR NZ will have breached that international agreement. Really!!!

BTW as I have posted before NZ has been working to get an FTA with the EU for over 5 years. These are difficult to do. To be fair the COL with Winston has made further progress one of the signs is the increasing number of increasingly senior people coming to NZ to discuss the matter.
By dissing the Czech Police (CR is a member of EU)the FTA could be delayed or deferred. This is how international diplomacy works. You piss me off you go to the back of the queue or your application falls off my desk into File 13. DUMB!!!!!
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November 1, 2018 8:52am
- KevOB
  
  I doubt if the Czech Police would be putting out welcome back signs. Some drug dealing mates might–he may even owe them the highest price on a bad deal.
  
  With doubts like that who would encourage immigration?
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:09am
krazykiwi

AirNZ regional captain just blamed inclement weather for our late departure time… but I know the real reason was the late arrival of cabin crew member on first shift from Wellington
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November 1, 2018 8:56am
- GazzaW
  
  Have you never been late for work? Shit happens when you’re travelling kk. Suck it up or switch to Jetstar.
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:02am
  - MCos
    
    “Switch to Jetstar”
    That’s like moving to Bolivia because you’re fed up with the street crime in Temuka.
    
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    November 1, 2018 9:20am
- waikatogirl
  
  Thunderstorms around kk. Better to delay instead of getting caught up in one of those beefy clouds.
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:21am
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A Letter on the Situation in Hebron, and What We Can Do

On July 13, 2018

Hi Norm,
My name is Chelli Stanley, I spent time in Hebron, Palestine and met someone who remembered you well, Musa Abu Hashhash, who spoke of you as a friend and good person. So I wanted to pass that on.

I also wanted to see if you would be interested in being in touch with some people I know in Hebron who are interested in making more networks in the United States. They are part of the Human Rights Defenders:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Human-Rights-Defenders-المدافعون-عن-حقوق-الانسان/727496507326993

They are the group that filmed the killing of Abdulfattah Al-Shareef who was shot by Israeli soldier Elor Azaria. They film constantly in order to expose the situation in Hebron and post these as well on their youtube channel, called Capturing Occupation Project.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcp4VPvAxptCYutqEqf7SJA

They are now faced with a recent proposal in the Israeli government to criminalize the filming of soldiers, with a 5 year jail sentence for offenders. They have put up a petition concerning this…

Read more….

http://normanfinkelstein.com/2018/07/13/a-letter-on-the-situation-in-hebron-and-what-we-can-do/
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November 1, 2018 8:56am
- Lance
  
  Hey Morrisey, go up to some Russian soldiers and start filming them, what could possibly go wrong?
  Better still, try that shit in the USA. Tell them you are going to publish their images on social media for later harassment.
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:03am
  - Morrissey
    
    Are Russian snipers killing and maiming unarmed civilian protestors, doctors, nurses, and journalists every Friday?
    
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    November 1, 2018 10:27am
    - VicParking
      
      They would if they were trying to blow up the Border fence between Russia and Poland.
      
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      November 1, 2018 11:30am
      - Morrissey
        
        You moron. Go back to sleep.
        
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        November 1, 2018 11:32am
Hugh Pavletich

Realestate.co.nz says the Auckland market is now favouring buyers for the first time since 2011- QV says average values falling | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/96645/realestateconz-says-auckland-market-now-favouring-buyers-first-time-2011-qv-says

It’s a buyer’s market in Auckland for the start of summer, with the number of homes for sale up strongly and average asking prices and property values down.

The October figures from Realestate.co.nz show that the number of Auckland homes newly listed for sale on the website in October was up a whopping 20.1% compared to October last year, while the total number of homes available for sale in the region at the end of October was up 17% compared to a year earlier.

However, the average asking price of Auckland homes listed for sale in October was down 1.3% compared to September. … read more via hyperlink above …
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ANZ’s latest Business Outlook Survey shows shows sharp drop in intentions to construct in both residential and commercial sectors; ANZ Chief Economist says next official interest rate move is more likely to be a cut than a hike | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/business/96642/anzs-latest-business-outlook-survey-shows-confidence-has-steadied-remains-low-levels
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Falling Australian house prices a warning for NZ: commentator | Catherine Harris | Stuff.co.nz

https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/property/108168646/falling-australian-house-prices-a-warning-for-nz-commentator

Tightening bank lending is leading to a property crunch in Australia and it could also happen here, a housing commentator says.

Christchurch-based Hugh Pavletich of the housing thinktank Demographia says reports of Sydney and Melbourne houses losing $1000 a week are a result of rising interest rates and the Australian banking inquiry, making banks ultra-cautious.

Pavletich said that in Australia, the housing bubble was bursting. “The days of high multiple-lending are over”. … read more via hyperlink above …
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November 1, 2018 8:57am
- sooty
  
  Pulling your own chain, there Hughie!
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:08am
- fernglas
  
  What is a thinktank? Does it involve more than one person? If not, should it be spelled differently, with a “w” replacing the second “t”?
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:20am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Above posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/11/links-1-november-2018/#comment-3216021 (with further posts ) …
    
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    November 1, 2018 9:34am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      Wow Hugh, you’re so famous, so successful and so good at bringing down the market. Now go away and rest on your laurels.
      
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      November 1, 2018 11:38am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/11/nz-housing-market-follow-australias/#comment-3216538 (behind paywall) … and … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/11/links-1-november-2018/#comment-3216542 (with extensive further posts)
        
        Sydney house prices see biggest fall for 30 years, dragging rest of Australia down | Australia news | The Guardian
        
        https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/nov/01/sydney-house-prices-fall-at-fastest-rate-in-30-years-dragging-rest-of-australia-down
        
        Research finds Melbourne also dropping steeply as economists warn falls could derail wider economy … read more via hyperlink above …
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        Australia’s housing slump enters year two – Bloomberg
        
        https://www.fxstreet.com/news/australias-housing-slump-enters-year-two-bloomberg-201811010121
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        Australian house prices drop 3.5pc, heading for ‘deepest downturn in modern history’ – ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
        
        https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-01/property-values-drop-3.5pc-sharpest-decline/10454166
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        CoreLogic revisions spear Sydney house prices downwards – MacroBusiness
        
        https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/11/corelogic-revisions-spear-sydney-house-prices-downwards/
        
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        November 1, 2018 6:39pm
      - Swifty
        
        He cant stop – his wanking is compulsive.
        
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        November 1, 2018 6:42pm
      - nasska
        
        But it keeps him off the streets! 🙂
        
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        November 1, 2018 6:50pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Great shame John Key failed out of the ’08 election …
        
        PM John Key on Housing Reform 2007 – YouTube
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWPgoAI1cLE
        
        No wonder he is so invisible today.
        
        He will be held to account in due course though.
        
        Access some of the loser Kiwi Tory history … Gone Gone Going Section http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org …
        
        http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/National%20News.html
        
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        November 1, 2018 7:58pm
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Leave to appeal to the supreme court will be sought for Mark Lundy, filed next week I believe.
It is important to analyse what is going on here without getting sidetracked by the standard motive of the appeal court to not disrupt a jury verdict.

After the privy council called it a miscarriage of justice because the Immunohistochemistry was flawed novel science, the police went for bandaids to their case.
1. They had the material that had been declared Central nervous system tissue by Rod Miller of Texas, analysed for dna. If there was any dna it should be Christine Lundy’s but they found none of that, what they found was cow sheep and pig dna, consistent with the food chain.
2, So lacking any link to say the alleged CNS tissue was human, they got the Netherlands Forensic Institute to design a bespoke experiment showing the mRNA was human, and went to court with this.
This bespoke experiment has just been declared inadmissable by the appeal court, and normally this would be an automatic new trial, but with the proviso that if the balance of the evidence was certain to result in the same verdict, no miscarriage would be declared.

I have seen all the paperwork showing every other item of evidence is false, and therefore the argument will be the proviso should not have been applied.
Immunohistochemistry will be attacked, but if you consider what the police did pre 2015 as outlined above, you can conclude they proved the shirt spot used to jail Lundy was from the foodchain and not from Christine’s brain.

Thank you for reading this.
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November 1, 2018 8:58am
- Swifty
  
  Quick! Tell your people!
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:00am
- Inandout
  
  I didn’t read it.
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:02am
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    I hope Philip Morgan and Ben Van derkolk read it before they agree to make fools of themselves once more.
    ding ding another round.
    
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    November 1, 2018 9:05am
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    Neither did I.
    
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    November 1, 2018 9:35am
- lifesgood
  
  I only read your last line, so, no I didn’t read it, Mark. I see your name and ignore your posts.
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:05am
- secondcumming
  
  @ notsofast
  
  Do you know if Mark has still got those aviator sunnies? They’ve come back into fashion again.
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:08am
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    At this stage they probably do exist. I’ll suggest he wears them as he waves to the adoring crowds on his coming release.
    
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    November 1, 2018 9:15am
    - Longknives
      
      I gave you an uptick there Notsofast as I thought you were making a joke!
      *On second thoughts maybe I’m not so sure…
      
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      November 1, 2018 9:21am
      - Notsofast
        
        Thanks, It was sarcasm or irony I was after, but probably just invoking theater of the absurd. Typically rehab is slow unless you have rockstars in your corner.
        
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        November 1, 2018 9:31am
- fernglas
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:28am
- DJ Ward
  
  Keep up the good work.
  
  I’m not 100% sure about his guilt myself.
  
  I can’t rationalise a person wearing something in the bloodbath that took place for a piece of clothing to have one spot of evidence.
  
  It’s more rational to say it was planted evidence.
  
  There is simply no way a person could commit that offence and not leave large amounts of transpher evidence.
  
  I also noticed in a doco that in some instances evidence was being presented as not explainable. In one example in regard to the location of the axe they presented Lundy’s explianation as not feasible but exactly the same scenario was true in my house.
  
  When that happens everything else starts looking dodgy.
  
  Why isn’t family DNA searches being done on the two unidentified males that left DNA at the scene. Until they are identified and that DNA explained we don’t know the truth.
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:32am
  - Notsofast
    
    The police would do everything in their power to prevent a search of the database to identify these men. They are doggy deep in deception and cornered now.
    He did not do this crime, if you read the post I made you can see that the shirt spot is food chain, and the other evidence is false and created from invalid associations. Good on you for seeing what this may be, the worst miscarriage of justice in New Zealand history, hunted along by the appalling and atrociously crafted appeal court ruling.
    By the way the petrol was woefully inadequate for the police theory, this is gone, will be exposed to the supreme court.
    Reputations are about to be shredded, police, prosecutors and judges.
    
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    November 1, 2018 10:11am
- VicParking
  
  Darling off to Wellington to f*k a hore see you soon.
  
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  November 1, 2018 11:33am
lifesgood

I got a call yesterday from the Sunday Star Times. They noted I had cancelled my subscription some time back and we’re offering me it free for 12 weeks plus a free sub to a glossy magazine. I told them that I was not interested and that I had cancelled due to their completely biased political views. The poor girl on the end of the phone sounded as if she’d heard it all before, went “Oh, er” and hung up pretty quickly.
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November 1, 2018 9:04am
- Biscuit
  
  lifesgood, a better way to respond to such cold-callings is to demand the editor’s private email addy so that you might discuss your decision with someone in authority.
  
  I doubt you’ll get given it, ha, but your call will still need to be logged as a ‘Get stuffed!’ response.
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:11am
- DigNap15
  
  Well done!
  I wrote to TVNZ news and told them the same thing.
  Some junior girl wrote back and said they need to consider many points of view.
  I wrote back and said when do you consider the right’s point of view!
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:15am
sooty

Where’s Jethro?
When can we expect a letter from Mike Bush?
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November 1, 2018 9:16am
- cmm
  
  Clocking up more successful relationships maybe?
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:27am
- krazykiwi
  
  Emirates flight?
  
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  November 1, 2018 10:05am
stephieboy

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A must for Summer reads and Christmas,

Hitler’s First Victims: The Quest for Justice

by Timothy W. Ryback (Author)

The remarkable story of Josef Hartinger, the German prosecutor who risked everything to bring to justice the first killers of the Holocaust and whose efforts would play a key role in the Nuremberg tribunal.

At 9 am on April 13, 1933, deputy prosecutor Josef Hartinger received a telephone call summoning him to the newly established concentration camp of Dachau. Four prisoners had been shot. The SS guards claimed that the men had been trying to escape. But what Hartinger found when he arrived convinced him that something was terribly wrong. All four victims were Jews.

Before Germany was engulfed by Nazi dictatorship, it was a constitutional republic. And just before Dachau became a site of Nazi genocide, it was a legal state detention center for political prisoners. In 1933, that began to change. In Hitler’s First Victims, Timothy W. Ryback evokes a society on the brink—one in which civil liberties are sacrificed to national security, in which citizens increasingly turn a blind eye to injustice, in which the bedrock of judicial accountability chillingly dissolves into the martial caprice of the Third Reich. This is an astonishing portrait of Hitler’s first moments in power, and the true story of one man’s race to expose the Nazis as murderers on the eve of the Holocaust.

Some reviews,

“Chilling. . . . Harrowing. . . fascinating.” —The Wall Street Journal

“Unflinching and utterly compelling. . . . Ryback’s prose is well paced and highly readable, his conclusion unerring. . . . the story of the first killings at Dachau has scarcely been more urgent.”
—The Herald Scotland

“Gripping. . . . In sparing us no detail of the nauseating brutality of the SS guards [Ryback] reminds us yet again of the depths of bestiality to which these men descended. . . . Anyone who thinks that Nazism came to power legally and without violence needs to read this account.”
—The Guardian (London)

“Has all the makings of a legal thriller.”
—The Boston Globe

“Ryback’s account is gripping—and thoroughly chilling—as it provides a snapshot of a moment when the Nazis still required a veil of legality. . . . diligently researched works such as this are as necessary now as they were decades ago, to keep both memory and vigilance alive.”
—The Telegraph (London)

“Fascinating, disturbing. . . . Ryback’s book is a decades-overdue recognition.”
—Jewish Times

“Valuable. . . .Turns the spotlight on the rapid erosion of state power in the early months of Nazi rule. . . . Ryback’s vivid narrative of an ordinary German lawyer’s experience makes this feel much more immediate, bringing home the terrible realities of early Nazification.”
—The Times Higher Education (London)

https://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-First-Victims-Quest-Justice/dp/0804172005/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
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November 1, 2018 9:24am
- Inandout
  
  Bloody Trump again stephie?
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:32am
  - stephieboy
    
    Nope! A book that will hopefully help crack open a closed mind like yours!
    
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    November 1, 2018 9:38am
- DJ Ward
  
  I liked the, was a legitimate state detention centre for political prisoners comment.
  
  Can we have one?
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:38am
  - stephieboy
    
    DJ Ward, a main theme of the book was the break down of the rule of law as the Nazis seized power where those kinds of legal niceties vanished replaced by arbitrary arrest and punishment.
    
    Yet I must say that that still appeals to certain people even on KB!
    
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    November 1, 2018 9:42am
    - DJ Ward
      
      Arbitrary arrest is normal in NZ using the DV act. Guess we haven’t learnt from the past.
      
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      November 1, 2018 9:56am
      - stephieboy
        
        DJWard , BS A very far cry from Nazi Germany as you I believe know but won’t admit!
        
        Where are our Dachaus exactly?
        
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        November 1, 2018 11:01am
      - DJ Ward
        
        There are 10s of thousands walking around in a paper prison. Our Dachau is everywhere.
        
        Arbitrary arrest is a slippery slope.
        Once it’s normalised the punishment is expanded outside of due process. As has occured in the regular updates to the DV act and its application, and administration.
        
        They are clearly not shooting people, but false arrest, imprisonment without trial, indoctrination programmes, normalising of false accusations, removal of freedom of movement and travel, perjury, asset stripping, removing employment rights, family separation, confiscation of property, removal of right to self defence, condoning murder, and inducing suicide is common, normalised practice.
        
        I don’t like the term due to Godwins Law.
        
        Feminazi.
        
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        November 1, 2018 11:42am
    - Colinxy
      
      Yes, you Leftists seem to hate due process (e.g. Kavanaugh, believe all women, Andrew Little’s agenda to reverse the burden of proof and so on).
      
      So, when you talk about the “break down of the rule of law”, it is once again the Left that we have to be concerned with.
      
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      November 1, 2018 10:28am
      - stephieboy
        
        Colinxy , fake and false comparison. Read the book this summer and crack open your closed mind!
        
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        November 1, 2018 11:03am
      - Colinxy
        
        I can imagine that the book will be a stark reminder of being wary of the Authoritarian Left again (and again and again).
        
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        November 1, 2018 11:22am
    - DJ Ward
      
      Break down in law only happens when three things take place.
      
      The public knows it’s happening but are to scared to intervene, or propaganda misinforms.
      The police act on ideology, and abandon neutrality.
      The Judiciary shut down argument, transparency, and allow biased prosecutions.
      
      Hence The Family Court.
      Yes many KB readers find such corruption as appealing. Some don’t but choose to remain silent.
      
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      November 1, 2018 10:42am
      - stephieboy
        
        DJ Ward , fake comparison!
        
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        November 1, 2018 11:04am
    - alloytoo
      
      Yes, this is typical of socialists, what’s your point?
      
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      November 1, 2018 10:56am
      - stephieboy
        
        alloytoo, ???
        
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        November 1, 2018 11:04am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      “legal niceties vanished replaced by arbitrary arrest and punishment.”
      
      LOL, StuffyBoy, just like you wanted for ILG’s pet czech.
      
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      November 1, 2018 11:44am
- VicParking
  
  Stephie your Goats menstruating or something. That last post must have taken all night to write.
  
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  November 1, 2018 11:37am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Cut n paste
    Cut n paste
    Cut n paste
    
    You don’t seriously think SB can produce a book review from his own thoughts?
    
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    November 1, 2018 10:37pm
michael_s2

Ryan Bridge showed in the week he stood in for Garner that he is far more intelligent and politically impartial than Garner. Time for a change TV3.
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November 1, 2018 9:30am
- Inandout
  
  At first I was thrown by Ryan’s lisping but I guess he is just a normal man of his age. Yes he was more balanced in his views than the flawed Garner.
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:34am
- waikatogirl
  
  No. Bridge voiced his lefty tendencies immediately but didn’t get a favourable response so moderated his tone for the rest of the week.
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:36am
lastmanstanding

Cindy consulting with Mike Bush on the wording to refute the Czech lawyers claims.
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November 1, 2018 9:30am
- Inandout
  
  When/if National regains power I would imagine Mike ‘would be gone’ Bush very quickly.
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:36am
  - Longknives
    
    I used to have a lot of respect for New Zealand Police.
    But Mike Bush is a disgrace.
    His desperate attempt to run defence for Clarke Gayford was totally inappropriate and unprecedented in New Zealand Police History.
    How can they possibly claim to be Politically neutral now??
    
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    November 1, 2018 9:44am
    - calendar girl
      
      There has never been a proper explanation, withdrawal or apology in relation to that extraordinary public statement from the Police Commissioner.
      
      It left me wondering how it must have felt to be a resident of the old East Germany or Soviet Union in their communist heyday.
      
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      November 1, 2018 10:39am
Odakyu-sen

Ah, Timothy W. Ryback. A historian and Director of the Institute for Historical Justice and Reconciliation in The Hague.

Sounds like the kind of person whose job depends on “righting the wrongs of the past.” (I suspect that he is a very keen supporter of social justice.)
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November 1, 2018 9:32am
- stephieboy
  
  Odakyu-sen , he might be that but that is irrelevant. Social Justice?W hat is the appeal of SS guards killing a group of Jews and communists at Dachau 1933 and not been held to account?
  
  Nostalgic for the ” glory days ” of old Imperial Japan of the 1930s etc?
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:47am
  - Padriv Ustoev
    
    Stephie, what the fuck are you talking about.
    Put down the crack pipe mate. Put it down.
    
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    November 1, 2018 10:26am
    - stephieboy
      
      Padiv Ustoev, interested to learn about your stock bloodlines?
      
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      November 1, 2018 10:47am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    FFS Stephie.
    
    At the current rate there will 12 ethnic Germans left in Germany in 60 years hiding in the Mountains of Bavaria and people like you will still be admonishing them “For what they did to the Jews” and demanding that anyone who questions the narrative be imprisoned for so called anti semitism.
    
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    November 1, 2018 10:38am
    - stephieboy
      
      EAD TWO, the zoning out of reason!
      
      Move beyond Mein Kampf and open your eyes!
      
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      November 1, 2018 10:44am
Poppa

Bwahahahaha!!

Z Energy reports profit down by 30%. So how is that investigation going Cindy?? You know the one you ordered when you said the motorist is being fleeced by the oil companies.
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November 1, 2018 9:57am
- krazykiwi
  
  They’ve been lashing shareholder cash around on an electric car share business, one which is already hip deep in taxpayer-funded subsidies.
  
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  November 1, 2018 10:08am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Was the PM aware that Z-energy is not a big international oil company?
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z_Energy
  Is the NZ Superannuation Fund happy with her meddling?
  
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  November 1, 2018 10:27am
  - cmm
    
    Just looked at my super ballance this morning. Down 10% over the last 3 months.
    
    Thanks PriNZess!
    
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    November 1, 2018 3:18pm
Surely Knott

West Auckland Local boards facebook page advertising a housing speaking event with Phil Twyford in conjunction with our local board. They say it is a unique partnering of central and local government. But at the bottom right corner it has a Labour Party logo and an authorised by Phil Twyford statement. Is Auckland Council using it’s communications channels to promote Labour party ads and party political events? Are we funding it? https://www.facebook.com/events/1981604895470434/
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November 1, 2018 10:01am
dave_c_

Holy crap – Just read about the Aussie squatter who claimed a deserted house with the full support of the law. His claim was successful under some archaic law, entitling/supporting squatters rights (over all other rights), and awarded costs against the family of the dead owner.
I thought this sort of thing only pertained to the UK.
Better watch out, lest NZ COL change our laws to enable squatters to take over vacant properties in this country.
What a calamity of justice against citizenry.
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November 1, 2018 10:06am
- Jules99
  
  While I don’t disagree with the thrust of your comment it could be argued that the relatives could have done something when the owner died in 1947, or again when the tenant died in 1998. He repaired and renovated the property at his own expense and followed the law in each respect for 20 years.
  
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  November 1, 2018 11:22am
  - dave_c_
    
    In that case, the law is an ass, much like those who implement such outrageous laws.
    
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    November 1, 2018 11:34am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Squatters rights made sense when they were implemented after the great fire of london when many families and records and even demarcations of boundaries were wiped out.
      
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      November 1, 2018 12:11pm
DJ Ward

Or change the law around people buying homes, leaving them unoccupied, for profiting on capital gain only.
Leaving the house unoccupied creates more pressure on housing as available houses for living in decreases. A self fulfilled prophecy forcing up prices.

Some sensible policy on this please. Beach houses exempt by application etc. Time limits, with default to community rental providers if owner can’t self rent. IE they will rent if that’s the alternative.

Not that buying for short term Capital gian is wrong but is it sensible right now. More like an actual gamble.
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November 1, 2018 10:27am
- Longknives
  
  If you own a Property you should be able to do what you damn well like with it.
  You should NOT be forced to let shitbag homeless people move in (or whatever you are getting at DJ)
  
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  November 1, 2018 10:46am
  - DJ Ward
    
    I did use the word sensible.
    
    An example is that you could say to foreign buyers that if they buy a residential zoned home under $750,000 it must be occupied within 3 months.
    
    You might exempt 3 homes for a person. They may live in multiple homes but a portfolio of homes within defined residential areas might have restrictions.
    
    There is no justification for homes sitting empty in the suberbs like South Auckland when people live in cars just so the rich get richer.
    
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    November 1, 2018 11:59am
    - Rich Prick
      
      So you’re not a fan of private property rights then? Are you using your car right now? Because I demand to use it.
      
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      November 1, 2018 12:08pm
      - DJ Ward
        
        It is not a demand to use it. It is rules about ethical Buisiness. If a car is abandoned on the side of the road then it can be take away. A car is not a necessity of life but a roof over your head is in that catagory. You can rent a taxi or use a bus or push bike so you have options. You cannot live in a home if a small group is acting to prevent available homes from being used.
        
        The activity prevents reasonable access to a basic human right. There would still be nothing stopping you owing the bank moonbeams for many homes.
        
        Imagine you purchased all the food. Just to cause scarcity upping the price. The people begin to starve and you profiteer from the capital gain caused by your causing the scarcity. However to maintain the scarcity and price some people must actually starve.
        
        Just as some working families with kids are forced to live in their cars.
        
        If you choose to keep the house unoccupied while a family with kids, unable to find homes to rent, unable to afford rent, is living in a car etc. You are a miserable sod without an ethical compass.
        
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        November 1, 2018 1:26pm
- Rich Prick
  
  I have a couple of unoccupied properties. Are you telling me I must get them occupied?
  
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  November 1, 2018 10:56am
  - dave_c_
    
    You may well be forced to with the noises being made regarding ‘the homeless’, coming from our current government. Watch this space.
    
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    November 1, 2018 11:37am
  - dave_c_
    
    Farmer perhaps ?
    We know how the COL currently put the boot into just about everything ‘farm’.
    There are probably hundreds (if not 1000’s) of unoccupied farm dwellings in this country.
    
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    November 1, 2018 11:41am
    - DJ Ward
      
      Yes there is. Policy could be applied to zoned residential areas. An isolated farm house sitting empty is different from an area with an intended purpose being corrupted by profiteering.
      
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      November 1, 2018 12:05pm
  - DJ Ward
    
    If you have bought residential homes in a residential zoned area but use them as a commercial enterprise only then yes.
    
    The extreme is a multi billionaire buys up all the houses in a suberb. Killing that suberb as it has no people living in it. Therefore with many people doing the same as you, a threshold is reached where real harm is caused to the community.
    
    I strongly believe in freedom of property rights. You should be free to buy property, but have some obligation to public welfare. Having 10% of Aucklands homes unoccupied is harming public welfare.
    
    As rents increase, I the taxpayer foot the bill, I subsidise low incomes, and fully fund the DPB. My taxes in rent subsidy go into the hands of the wealthy. Unoccupied homes in turn increase house prices helping the rich, and increase rents forcing me the taxpayer to give even more of my money to the rich.
    
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    November 1, 2018 12:33pm
Morrissey

Frankie Boyle critiques Bonny Prince Harry the Shepherd Murderer

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/12/general_debate_23_december_2017.html/comment-page-1#comment-2105328
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November 1, 2018 10:32am
- stephieboy
  
  Morrissey, moralising wankfest from the far left at its best!
  
  When you think about it ISIS. & Taliban ideologically share more in common with them and you than you’d be willing to admit!
  
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  November 1, 2018 10:57am
  - Swifty
    
    BITCH FIGHT! 🙂
    
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    November 1, 2018 11:32am
    - Morrissey
      
      Did somebody say “bitch fight”?
      
      http://media.beam.usnews.com/1d/47/d7f5a173446899808909a5efb751/170202-donaldtrump-editorial.jpg
      
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      November 1, 2018 11:40am
Manolo

Islam, the religion of peace and tolerance:
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/christian-woman-asia-bibi-spared-death-sentence-in-pakistan-after-blasphemy-conviction-overturned/ar-BBP9nUG

Asia Bibi, the Christian woman facing execution for blasphemy in Pakistan, has had her conviction overturned by the country’s highest court.

In a ruling that will anger the country’s Islamic hardliners, Mrs Bibi, 47, was told she would no longer face the gallows after nearly a decade on death row.

The mother-of-four was convicted in 2010 of defaming the Prophet Mohammad during a row with Muslim women over drinking water as they picked berries in their village.

Militant Islamic clerics, however, put a 5,000 Euro bounty on her head, while two prominent liberal Pakistani politicians who came to her defence have also been assassinated.
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November 1, 2018 10:34am
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo, that is something for shared thanksgiving that three Pakistani Supreme Court Justices ( presumably Muslim) sought to overturn her conviction and release her.
  
  Efforts must continue to ensure her ongoing safety and something you and me and others on KB could involve ourselves in?
  
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  November 1, 2018 10:40am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    We are involved. We call islamism out for what it is: a political ideology that wants to establish a medieval theocracy.
    
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    November 1, 2018 11:54am
- GoVege
  
  Tragic, Manolo.
  And all started by a bunch of bullying bitches.
  It’s often the case…
  
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  November 1, 2018 3:40pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Oh I know of some men who
    tell lies in public about others and damn the consequences!
    
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    November 1, 2018 6:35pm
lifesgood

Serious question. Cindy spent most of her waking moments shadowing the royals but I never saw Jethro with her. How come? He’s been hanging onto her coat tails at every other thing that might get him into the lime light. Hmmmmm!
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November 1, 2018 10:36am
- Longknives
  
  This Gayford character has spent his whole adult life desperately fame whoring-The man absolutely craves any attention.
  My wife and I avoided watching the news because we fully expected his smirking mug to following Meghan around everywhere like a little puppy (My wife also thinks he is a sleazy creep)
  Yet he was MIA all week?
  Most unusual!
  
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  November 1, 2018 10:42am
  - stephieboy
    
    Longknives, apart from a few rabid right rabble like you on KB or WO who actually cares?
    
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    November 1, 2018 10:50am
    - Longknives
      
      It is a bit curious though- Isn’t it Stephie?
      Surely this was Clark’s big moment to get his mug on TV again? (The man clearly craves Media attention)
      So where was he? Would there be any reason he might be laying low?
      
      What do you think Stephieboy?
      
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      November 1, 2018 10:54am
      - stephieboy
        
        Longknives, frankly I’m not at all interested!
        
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        November 1, 2018 10:58am
      - stoptheboats
        
        He was probably tied up with officials from Fisheries.
        Wheres First Baby ?
        
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        November 1, 2018 12:04pm
      - KevinH
        
        So you didn’t get an invite to Government House for dinner Longknives?.
        I’m sure you would have made for interesting company.
        
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        November 1, 2018 1:09pm
DigNap15

Another headline I don’t believe

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12152563

The Z station I got to always has queues to get into its 8 pumps.
The unmanned Gull across the road is often empty!

As for the fuel discount schemes, I am sick of them. Get rid of them all and just drop the price.
No ads, no admin, less time.
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November 1, 2018 10:54am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Re fuel discounts, you’ve nailed it right there Dig.
  And the prime mover in all this crap is the AA, ‘the motorists’ friend’.
  Are they f**k.
  
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  November 1, 2018 1:19pm
- Chuck Bird
  
  I prefer Gull as it has 98 as opposed to 95.
  
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  November 4, 2018 3:50pm
catwoman

One word, Jacinda, “stylist”. GET ONE NOW. You are the bloody Prime Minister, not a walking advertisement for the local op shop. And while we are at it, get a bloody haircut.
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November 1, 2018 10:57am
- Longknives
  
  What? You don’t like that gorgeous Mustard Trenchcoat she wears everywhere??
  You’ll be telling me her clunky Cankle boots are out of fashion next…
  
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  November 1, 2018 11:00am
- sam green
  
  Do you guys seriously ever listen to yourselves?
  
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  November 1, 2018 11:03am
  - sam green
    
    I guess that’s a no. Back to the “poo you smell” school of debate.
    
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    November 1, 2018 7:53pm
- Jules99
  
  There’s something odd about her fetish for ankle boots and ties. Most women know they are not flattering and they are not the height of fashion either. And she really must pay for a hairdresser.
  
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  November 1, 2018 11:15am
  - DigNap15
    
    No the frumpier she looks the bedda.
    We need to get Ardern out not back in!
    
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    November 1, 2018 11:33am
- DigNap15
  
  No the frumpier she looks the bedda.
  We need to get Ardern out not back in!
  
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  November 1, 2018 11:33am
- Fletch
  
  Yep, mums don’t have long hair for very long anyway. It isn’t utilitarian. She’ll end up getting a very short bob.
  
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  November 1, 2018 12:04pm
  - Longknives
    
    Yikes!
    She is already morphing into Helen Clark- A Short Bob will just accentuate that..
    
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    November 1, 2018 12:45pm
- Twinkletoes
  
  HEAR HEAR
  
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  November 1, 2018 3:55pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Oral Questions _ Nov 1 2018

Q.2. Hon MICHAEL WOODHOUSE to the Minister of Immigration: Does he stand by all his statements and actions in relation to Karel Sroubek, also known as Jan Antolik?

Q.3. Hon MARK MITCHELL to the Minister of Justice: Does he stand by all his answers given to Oral Question No. 2 yesterday?

Patsy Question of the Day:
Q.1.
PAUL EAGLE to the Minister of Finance: What examples, if any, are there of a well-being approach influencing Government policy?

https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/order-paper-questions/list-of-oral-questions/oral-questions-1-november-2018/
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November 1, 2018 11:52am
- Chuck Bird
  
  Q9 by Simeon Brown on tougher penalties for drug dealers should be interesting.
  
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  November 1, 2018 12:52pm
  - sooty
    
    Seen as Slease Bags, Chezh is one!
    
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    November 1, 2018 1:22pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Oh dear…
The old alma mater in the crap again:
All-out brawl involving Whanganui High School students caught on camera as video footage goes viral
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12152584
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November 1, 2018 11:55am
- rangitoto
  
  That’s what adding the “h” does.
  
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  November 1, 2018 12:17pm
Fletch

Heh, interesting letter in today’s paper Herald –

Is it a coincidence that the same day hundreds maybe thousands protested outside Parliament [about the removal of Jesus’ name from the Parliamentary prayer], there was an earthquake that sent MPs scrambling from the House?

Geoffrey Strickland, Thames.
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November 1, 2018 12:01pm
- Longknives
  
  I’m Agnostic myself but would happily sell my soul to any Deity who is going to rain Fire and Brimstone on this shambolic excuse for a ‘Government’..
  
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  November 1, 2018 12:49pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Nearly a third of women skip school or work when they have their period as they cannot afford sanitary products, a new survey has found.

Can that possibly be true?
https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/369962/sanitary-product-poverty-keeping-women-homebound

Surely somewhere along my 60+ years of life, I would have noticed if my female peers, work colleagues, daughters, etc were m-i-a a few days each month.
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November 1, 2018 12:22pm
- DJ Ward
  
  Yes the voluntary, do you have this problem survey.
  
  99% of women who don’t have this problem did not respond to the survey.
  
  It’s a common feminist social science method.
  
  Eg. Run a have you been sexually harrased in the workplace survey. Only go to 80% plus female industry. Make it voluntary. Present the results as The average worker based on the survey. You get double the bias.
  
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  November 1, 2018 12:46pm
- kowtow
  
  It’s the latest front in the media war on taxpayers to get us to pay for this latest “poverty’ thingey they’ve come up with.
  
  So it’s even got a name , period poverty .
  
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  November 1, 2018 12:54pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Period Poverdy please….
    
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    November 1, 2018 5:58pm
    - sam green
      
      Short Girl’s obviously got PMT.
      
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      November 1, 2018 7:55pm
- krazykiwi
  
  “It doesn’t matter what is true,
  it only matters what people believe is true.”
  — Paul Watson, co-founder of Greenpeace
  
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  November 1, 2018 1:10pm
- Jules99
  
  I wonder whether KidsCan are going through their application for funding process right now.
  
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  November 1, 2018 2:27pm
- waikatogirl
  
  I never saw or heard of that either Maggy.
  
  All this angst about women not having sanitary products. In my day it was a sorted with a homemade elastic belt and safety pins to hold everything together. Not comfortable but I never missed school, and I’m not aware of any other female doing so. We were expected to keep calm and carry on!
  
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  November 1, 2018 3:25pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Oh yuck!
    
    I remember the chaffed legs biking home from school (about 6km) with the damn damp thing rubbing my bits raw.
    
    And the smell!!!! when the school menstrual pad incinerator was turned on…..
    oooooooooooooooooh.
    
    (But I only wagged school when it was double Latin)
    
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    November 1, 2018 4:26pm
    - nasska
      
      The Godaddled have the problem sorted. Keep them pregnant & chained to the kitchen sink.
      
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      November 1, 2018 4:35pm
  - fluffykiwi
    
    In fact better for younger girls than tampons, given the possibility of toxic shock syndrome, especially if they do not change them regularly. Given how plastic nappies are kept on babies for a long time because of the cost the same could happen with tampons. I think pads better for girls, especially if the taxpayer is funding this.
    (I had a grown friend die of toxic shock syndrome in the 1980s.)
    
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    November 1, 2018 5:18pm
- GoVege
  
  Come on, Maggy.
  Things were easier in our day.
  Subsidised milk, bread, stamps.
  We could afford sanitary pads!
  
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  November 1, 2018 3:43pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I agree.. that the best tampons are expensive… and if you have a household of females (I only had 2 teenage girls) menstrual products make a hole in your budget.
    
    But all secondary schools will have pads/tampons on hand…no need for the girls to miss school.
    
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    November 1, 2018 4:33pm
    - BeaB
      
      Countdown has own brand pads for $2 a pack. Less than one big bottle of coca cola or a packet of crisps.
      And much better than the old towels mum used to rip up for us to wear – lovely to smell them soaking in the washhouse and see them hanging on the clothesline and far worse to wear the scratchy horrible things.
      But imagine staying home from school!
      The world has gone mad.
      
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      November 1, 2018 4:58pm
      - BeaB
        
        And it’s not even a big problem.
        
        “The usual length of menstrual bleeding is four to six days. The usual amount of blood loss per period is 10 to 35 ml. Each soaked normal-sized tampon or pad holds a teaspoon (5ml) of blood . That means it is normal to soak one to seven normal-sized pads or tampons (“sanitary products”) in a whole period.”
        
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        November 1, 2018 5:00pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @BeaB
        
        Perhaps your stats are a bit light…
        I wouldn’t recommend 1 pad or 1 tampon/24 hours….At least a change at night….. So nearer 10-14 items /period….
        
        But once you’ve had a couple of kids (at least) and head into your 40s.. then bloody hell can let loose….
        I’d double-up on Carefree super tampons at a time and change every few hours…. Easily went through a packet of 30 each cycle.
        
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        November 1, 2018 6:32pm
DJ Ward

I was around a friends place last night. He showed me some clones of different strains. Intends to use them as mother plants for more clones.

I asked him how much weed is selling for as I just buy the occasional tinny. My understanding was the price had risen from around $300 to $350 in the last few years. He informed me they go for $700 an ounce in Auckland.

That’s about $10,000 a plant.
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November 1, 2018 1:48pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Come on Cindy, let’s tax this.
  
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  November 1, 2018 4:19pm
- Tall Man
  
  That explains a lot…..
  
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  November 1, 2018 5:57pm
flipper

An excellent and revealing post…..

For the first time in a long, long while there is an excellent post on W O H B.

It is not the words, it is the photograph that says it all.
Remember the cruddy dress sense. Nay deliberate insult by Clark and her trousers worn at a State Reception when The Queen last visited?
The trousers were not only a breech of protocol, and contrary to the official advice she received from Internal Affairs and Government House, but they were deliberately insulting to The Queen.
For all that Clark’s trousers were properly cut and the rest of her attire reasonably satisfactory.
But today just one photograph and a pithy caption published by Whale Oil today, expose Ardern as the trollop that she is – and both an embarrassment and insult to ALL New Zealanders. The photograph features just three people – Markle (fashionably dressed), Harry (fashionable suit and open necked shirt), and Ardern (in an over-size coat and trollops ankle boots).
Thanks W O H B.
Check it out.
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November 1, 2018 2:25pm
- Komata
  
  flipper
  
  Sadly, I couldn’t find it.
  
  Could you provide a link (or even a copy of the pic) please?
  
  Thanks.
  
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  November 1, 2018 3:17pm
  - flipper
    
    Here with the link direct to “dress to impress”
    
    https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/11/dress-to-impress/
    
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    November 1, 2018 6:06pm
    - Komata
      
      Thank you.
      
      Dress sense is, of course, so boorgousie (sp?) so why bother, especially when you are entertaining the children of ‘Imperialists’ (even if the empire is now no longer).
      
      Fits in well with the SLG’s Marxist ideology doesn’t it?
      
      BTW, her body language is revealing…
      
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      November 1, 2018 7:35pm
      - sam green
        
        Mountain/molehill – you decide.
        
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        November 1, 2018 8:00pm
- Piniwi
  
  Well flipper they seem to need your ticks after this from yesterday : Good morning. I need a tech savvy person with time on their hands to help me with a job which could be straight forward or could be a can of worms.
  This may be very self rewarding so if you have always wanted to contribute but can’t justify the spend or whatever then this is your chance to give some help.
  
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  November 2, 2018 1:03am
Fletch

A good article on Stuff by Karl Du Fresne on abortion…

It can make sense only if the incipient human life is considered intrinsically valueless unless its mother happens to want it. Is that what we’ve come to? In which case, in what circumstances does a life become worth saving?

A similar question arose last year amid the general rejoicing at the news that Jacinda Ardern was having a baby. Many of the people who expressed delight at the prime minister’s pregnancy and the subsequent birth of Neve Te Aroha Ardern Gayford support the right of women to have an abortion, no questions asked.

But isn’t it odd that we placed such value on Neve’s life when hardly anyone batted an eyelid at the 13,285 unborn babies who were aborted last year?

What sort of strange lottery determines that one baby becomes a source of national celebration while others are sucked from the womb and consigned to a hospital incinerator?

The Big Lie, which you can expect to hear repeated endlessly, is that abortion is a health issue. This is now a feminist article of faith. But no amount of repeating makes it true, because pregnancy and childbirth are not illnesses or disorders, and it’s impossible to imagine anything less healthy for the unborn child than to have its life terminated.

Journalist Alison Mau gave an early example of the fatuous arguments likely to be deployed when, in a one-sided panel discussion on Radio New Zealand, she proposed that men should be required to get permission from certifying consultants before getting prostate checks, as women seeking an abortion have to do.

This reduced the whole issue to a puerile game of gender tit-for-tat. It got her a cheap laugh, but the nature and purpose of the two procedures are fundamentally different. Prostate checks are about identifying and treating a potentially fatal disease. Their purpose is to save life.

But pregnancy is not a disease, a foetus is not a tumour, and the consequence of an abortion is that life is extinguished, not saved. If a high-profile journalist like Mau can’t grasp that crucial difference, we’re in bigger trouble than I thought.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/108250663/what-sort-of-strange-lottery-determines-that-one-baby-is-celebrated-while-others-are-aborted

He is right, in that it doesn’t make sense. Liberals seem to be able to turn off half their brain to forget about an argument that conflicts with what they are saying at the present time.
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November 1, 2018 2:40pm
- DJ Ward
  
  Alison Mau on gender equality?
  
  So after women get free cervical screening, breast screening, a dedicated women’s hospital, 94% of research funding, and a Ministry for Women to keep an eye on and advocate.
  
  What do men get?
  No pregnancy opt out rights.
  No screening programmes.
  Nobody giving a shit about them.
  
  And yes, at their own cost the enevitability of having to pay a doctor for assessment and treatment. As the public system delays causes desperate men to go private. Women get statisticaly ineffective options like $100,000 Hercepton as a bonus.
  
  The fact Mau used her analogy shows how deluded about men’s experience this woman is.
  
  Women are entitled to 10 hours of free counselling to decide on an abortion. Boys forced into a pregnancy wanting the child terminated, or wanting the child born but it’s being terminated are entitled to…..nothing to help with mental health harm.
  
  There you go Alison, an actual human rights violation. (Services of the crown, same situation, no effort, gender)
  
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  November 1, 2018 3:21pm
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Did you read what you wrote?
    
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    November 1, 2018 10:57pm
  - sam green
    
    Why don’t you advocate positively then DJ Ward. That’s what women did in the 1970’s to get this stuff in place. Set up (actually join) some of the men’s health groups out there. Go on. Don’t be shy.
    
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    November 2, 2018 12:10am
- GoVege
  
  Yes Fletch, sadly it IS a lottery.
  I has nothing to do with the innate worthiness of a foetus.
  It has everything to do with the circumstances that foetus may be being born into.
  To a mature loving couple with adequate resources.
  Or an unsupported single teenager who can barely take care of herself, if that.
  IMHO, every human being deserves the first situation, or as close as possible to it.
  
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  November 1, 2018 3:35pm
Fletch

This will make your day. According to a UK strategist, Jacinda is “the world’s most charismatic leader” and “everyone sees it”.

Jacinda Ardern is the most charismatic politician in the world, it has been claimed.

Ms Ardern is “something special, and everyone sees it” political strategist John McTernan told The AM Show on Thursday.

Mr McTernan was director of operations for UK Prime Minister Tony Blair in the mid-2000s, and has worked for the Australian and Scottish Labour parties, including as director of communications for then-Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/10/jacinda-ardern-world-s-most-charismatic-leader-uk-political-strategist.html
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November 1, 2018 2:51pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Newshub would be so much better if a printed edition was rolled on narrow, continuous reels of soft paper with segment perforations.
  
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  November 1, 2018 2:57pm
- Tall Man
  
  What puzzles me is Ardern’s claim that she never met Tony Blair. She was an advisor yet they never met…seems odd to me or is there a back story?
  
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  November 1, 2018 5:53pm
  - DJ Ward
    
    I think she was a nobody in a large office of nobodies that Blair never went to, despite being his staff.
    Small chance she lied.
    
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    November 1, 2018 6:42pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Blair became a traitor to the far-left after he backed Bush and lied about Weapons of Mass Destruction.
    
    John Minto has had Ardern over the coals about her support for Blair.
    The NZ version:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/96123508/jacinda-ardern-i-didnt-want-to-work-for-tony-blair
    
    The UK version:
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/spy-row-boosts-jacinda-ardern-former-aide-to-tony-blair-in-race-to-be-newzealandpm-09d56f750
    
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    November 1, 2018 7:33pm
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      “Let me be very clear on this as I have been right from the start … “ SLGs reality varies with her audience.
      
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      November 1, 2018 11:00pm
Don the Kiwi

The myth of Transgenderism’s birds are coming home to roost.

“October 31, 2018 (Family Research Council) – Dr. Miroslav Djordjevic is not your normal physician. He came to fame more than two decades ago, making a name for himself as one of the world’s premiere genital reconstruction surgeons. After years of helping men and women transition into a body they weren’t born with, he’s started to realize something: the procedure called sex reassignment surgery isn’t making patients happy. Beyond the transgender flag-waving and pride-marching are real people in real pain. And according to doctors like Djordjevic, they’re struggling, but their struggle is with something the media or LGBT activists don’t want to admit.

Over the last five years, in particular, Dr. Djordjevic says he’s been overwhelmed by the number of people who’ve approached him about reversing their procedure. The surgery that they thought would bring them the satisfaction they were looking for only plunged them into deeper despair. A growing number of them, he tells Canada’s National Post, were miserable. Six people, he says, made appointments to undo a procedure that’s not only excruciatingly painful – but expensive. “They came from countries all over the Western world, Britain included, united by an acute sense of regret.”

Read more………..https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/even-sex-change-surgeons-now-expressing-doubt-about-transgenderism?utm_source=LifeSiteNews
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November 1, 2018 3:33pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Sometimes it is best to accept the cards that life has dealt you, and to make the best of what you have been given.
  
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  November 1, 2018 5:32pm
krazykiwi

U.N. climate negotiations have siphoned off more than $150 million a year, according to economist Richard Tol.

All those 1st class (or private jet) flights, 5-star hotels, caviar, triumphant ‘deals’ inked at the 11th hour.

It’s tough work, but someone has to do it.
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November 1, 2018 3:42pm
- All_on_Red
  
  97% of climate scientists agree that they would like to keep receiving government grants
  
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  November 1, 2018 5:08pm
  - sooty
    
    Only at 5star rates. They want to continue the life 5hey have become acustomed too.
    
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    November 1, 2018 5:21pm
Captain Mainwaring

Breaking news:
Letting fees banned.
Rents about to go up again.
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November 1, 2018 3:49pm
- rangitoto
  
  The CoL will need a new policy called Kiwicar to house the surge in homeless.
  
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  November 1, 2018 4:10pm
  - nasska
    
    Nah! You missed a step:
    
    It’s Kiwibuild then Kiwitent followed by Kiwicar!
    
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    November 1, 2018 4:15pm
- DJ Ward
  
  The desire to increase rents increases?
  
  That desire may or may not result in an increase.
  The reason is that if renters are already stretched to unaffordable , going to the point they become homeless may result. It’s already reality.
  The extreme is that nobody can afford rent and everybody becomes homeless. The landlord then finds the house is not viable as an investment.
  
  The landlord sells up in a declining market and eventually the working poor can afford to buy homes again. Landlord not required.
  
  Maybe you should invest in an American style trailer park. You could have 100 people on the same block of land as a house. Bingo, landlord on steroids. No letting fees required.
  
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  November 1, 2018 4:53pm
  - Tall Man
    
    A reasoned response from labour HQ……. Nope just a bunch of distortion yet again.
    
    Is Ardern a liar?
    
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    November 1, 2018 5:43pm
    - DJ Ward
      
      Oh please. If I’m Labour HQ the pay is crap. Plus I am male and don’t wish to trade my manhood for a white ribbon. Like Kelvin Davis had too.
      
      Is Adern a Liar? For the millionth time.
      
      Anything new from the big boys, Tall Man. It’s getting boring.
      
      No constructive criticism? No debunking evidence? No alternative theories on resultants? No new ideas?
      
      It’s sad to say but Stephyboy has more to offer.
      
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      November 1, 2018 6:13pm
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Ardern!!!
        
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        November 2, 2018 6:51am
- The Heat
  
  The cost of letting doesn’t go away. Therefore, it gets rolled into rents.
  
  Just dumb signalling to dumber people.
  
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  November 1, 2018 6:14pm
  - DJ Ward
    
    Correct. Real costs don’t go away.
    
    However if the purchaser of your product cannot pay more that cost results in lower profits to the seller.
    
    Profit is not a compulsory right.
    
    So yes it gets rolled into rents. But that is no garuantee that rents will increase. The increase to cover the letting fees may result in a lost tenant. It may result in the house being empty for a week or two while a renter able to pay the extortionary rent is found. Costing more than what’s attempted to be recovered.
    
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    November 1, 2018 6:36pm
    - nasska
      
      A lot of the pressure could be taken off the lower end of the market by allowing supply of accommodation at a level the prospective tenants warrant.
      
      Insulated containers that could be hosed out & fumigated between tenancies would be okay for many beneficiaries engaged in a race to the bottom via alcohol, meth & tobacco. Eg:
      
      https://www.designrulz.com/design/affordable-shipping-container-homes-cost/
      
      The easing of demand for traditional rentals would gradually lower the capital costs & therefore the rent.
      
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      November 1, 2018 7:06pm
    - The Heat
      
      DJ
      
      Rents will increase.
      
      What will happen is that renters will substitute, meaning they’ll pay the same amount for a smaller house, or a house further out, or less desirable.
      
      The cost does not go away.
      
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      November 1, 2018 7:31pm
      - nasska
        
        A better question is why are rents so high as a proportion of prospective renters’ incomes. A few points as I see it……add your own:
        
        1) Supply & demand. Eg allowing nohopers with no money who wouldn’t work in an iron lung to immigrate knowing full well that they’ll drive up competition for rentals.
        
        2) Never ending greed by local bodies wringing the last few dollars out of prospective builders through extortionate consent & permit fees.
        
        3) Ridiculously high standards of building construction & fitout being imposed.
        
        4) Landbanking.
        
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        November 1, 2018 7:43pm
      - The Heat
        
        Mostly to do with the way councils fund infrastructure and other restrictions placed on land development.
        
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        November 1, 2018 8:33pm
  - The Heat
    
    It’s no wonder we have a COL government, going by many of the comments in this article:
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/108288457/parliament-bans-letting-fees-on-rentals
    
    So many fools, so easily influenced.
    
    If you asked them the question this way: “Would you work in the weekend, pay staff, pay for background checks, interview people and liase with a third party for nothing?”
    
    Of course not.
    
    Yet that’s exactly what many of them expect property manages to do.
    
    That cost has to be met, and like all costs of any business it is met by the customer as part of the price paid. In this case it will be called “rent”.
    
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    November 1, 2018 9:27pm
DigNap15

Qustion 7

ANAHILA KANONGATA’A-SUISUIKI to the Minister for Pacific Peoples: What recent announcements has he made regarding the future of Pacific peoples in Aotearoa?

Where is Aotearoa?
Is it near Hawiki?
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November 1, 2018 4:42pm
- softail 1450
  
  DigNap15, get ready for a waitangi treaty for Pacifica people,its coming……..
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:09pm
DigNap15

Nauru illegals
So Australia is taking the children slowly.
And they want us to take all the adults!
1 Does this mean splitting families (Not good long term)
2 Why should anyone take them? Send them back
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November 1, 2018 6:05pm
- DJ Ward
  
  It will probably work out well. Ausi will rescue all the helpless women and children. We can have all the single men to replace all the young men that have fled NZ. It will help fix the man drought.
  
  There are a large number of 35 year old, chasing feminist dreams women who have woken up to, my body clock. There is a desperate need for vulnerable males who have no idea how Family Law will completely destroy their lives once the sperm donator, free sex has finished.
  
  Then they will flee back to the country of origin.
  
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  November 1, 2018 6:26pm
RW Capitalist

Govt. puts massive new taxes on fuel
then launches investigation in to oil companies profits.
Govt. puts new taxes on tourist entries
then launches investigation in to Auckland airport profits.
ILG is to investigate the Immigration department,
after HE makes a UNILATERAL decision to grant RESIDENCY to a known criminal.
Is there a pattern emerging?
Typical labour, blame someone else for their screw ups.
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November 1, 2018 6:18pm
RF

Our communist PM will be really pissed off. A big announcement throwing our cash around Porirua and it gets swamped with Minister Shreks
Clusterfuk..

How sad….
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November 1, 2018 7:23pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  Got to have big money distractions to hand, for ‘moments like these’.
  
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  November 2, 2018 6:38am
softail 1450

The biggest joke on K B today was Morronissey stating (and he was serious) that the reason he gets an average 35 downticks on every post is because of a technical glitch in KBs computer system,FFS what far away planet is that person from?
“Technical glitch”ha,ha,ha,he,he,he,LOL…..
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November 1, 2018 8:04pm
- Swifty
  
  Heh, yep saw that.
  
  He’s delusional.
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:08pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    His computer system is obviously about as dependable as the Morris Marina he’s named after.
    What a cock.
    
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    November 1, 2018 8:38pm
    - stigie
      
      Are you surprised as i am that Sir John Key is not on his suspect gropers list..?
      I wouldn’t put it pass the cock to see him on there though !~
      
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      November 1, 2018 9:00pm
DJ Ward

I have to say something absurdly wrong to get 35 down ticks. Sometimes I even do it on purpose as devils advocate, trying to get to 35 and I still fail.

Maybe it’s 35 people who bothered to read what he said.
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November 1, 2018 8:15pm
- Morrissey
  
  I have to say something absurdly wrong to get 35 down ticks. Sometimes I even do it on purpose as devils advocate, trying to get to 35 and I still fail.
  
  Come round to Chez Breen some time, DJ, and I’ll coach you.
  
  And… bring your wife.
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:58pm
fernglas

I see that Sir Thomas Eichelbaum has died. He was a good judge and a good man. He came to this country as a child as a refugee fleeing from the persecution of Jews in Nazi Germany and went on to become Chief Justice. Food for thought for some on this blog.
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November 1, 2018 8:15pm
- Morrissey
  
  Eichelbaum found nothing wrong with the Christchurch police force’s railroading of Peter Ellis.
  
  That tells you a great deal about what a “good judge” and “good man” he was.
  
  “To the living we owe respect, but to the dead we owe only the truth.”
  
  —VOLTAIRE
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:42pm
  - fernglas
    
    Are you an example of the living to whom we owe respect? If so, Voltaire was as big a twat as you appear to be.
    
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    November 1, 2018 9:32pm
    - Morrissey
      
      Thank you! Never been compared to that particular great man before.
      
      This is a red letter day for moi.
      
      Once again, my friend: merci bien.
      
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      November 1, 2018 9:35pm
      - fernglas
        
        You’re welcome. As Voltaire put it:
        “L’appréciation est une chose merveilleuse, il fait ce qui est excellent dans d’autres qui nous appartiennent aussi.”
        
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        November 1, 2018 9:54pm
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    Traduizee s’il vous plait.
    
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    November 2, 2018 1:58am
    - fernglas
      
      Appreciation is a wonderful thing: It makes what is excellent in others belong to us as well.
      
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      November 2, 2018 2:36am
Morrissey

Great news for New Zealand; dismal for the National Party, however.

“You’re very lucky in New Zealand. Jacinda is probably the most charismatic single figure, democratic leader in the world at the moment. It’s not just that she’s popular – it’s that she is something special, and everyone sees it. She’s fresh, she’s a star, she’s the real thing.”

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/10/jacinda-ardern-world-s-most-charismatic-leader-uk-political-strategist.html
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November 1, 2018 8:39pm
- rangitoto
  
  Such a star that the DM have no idea who she is. Some royal fan helping out trying to stop a bunch of flowers tipping over.
  
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  November 1, 2018 8:58pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  Man needed a tissue lol.
  
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  November 2, 2018 6:31am
RF

Haven’t seen or heard from First Fish since the scandal about the globe trotting druggie hit the headlines.

Is there a connection or is there a new dog in town…

Not that I miss him…..
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November 1, 2018 9:05pm
- rangitoto
  
  Jethro’s absence has been noticed. Maybe he was sent to the naughty corner.
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:15pm
Morrissey

Not that I miss him…..

You envy him, that’s clear as the frown on John Key’s face.
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November 1, 2018 9:13pm
- stigie
  
  I would have said “The fake concerned face of the current PM” !~
  
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  November 1, 2018 9:41pm
nasska

…..”You envy him”…..

Not while there’s dogs on the street.

But you deliberately miss the point. The fisherman has many character flaws, the main one being his unquenchable desire for publicity.

Why, in this week of fawning MSM adulation of some minor royalty, would the father of the Nation’s Baby be missing from all those photo ops?

Something smells & it ain’t fish bait!
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November 1, 2018 9:29pm
- sam green
  
  Yeah – but you’d be moaning equally if he was in any publicity pics. So. What’s the beef really? Is ya just a bit jealous bro? ?
  
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  November 2, 2018 12:25am
  - softail 1450
    
    sam green ,awake at 12.25 am, a crackhead maybe?LOL.
    
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    November 2, 2018 7:08am
- softail 1450
  
  naaska,very good point ,a bit strange for sure, he’d be expected to be there actually .
  possibly he’s got a cold and doesnt want to hongi it on to the royals.
  
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  November 2, 2018 6:57am
Rachael Membery

Note the small acknowledgment at the end of the article that this report was commissioned under National.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/108283374/changes-proposed-for-law-dictating-how-property-split-in-breakup
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November 2, 2018 6:28am
- stephieboy
  
  I don’t see it like that. There was and still is a widespread consensus that the automatic 50 50 split was not working satisfactorily and that a fresh approach was called for through the Law commision and other interested organisations and parties on a largely non-partisan political basis.
  
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  November 4, 2018 6:27pm
softail 1450

R M, my elderly neighbour went through a breakup with his partner of 5 years ,she managed to prove to the judge she had been living with him the entire time and this was what cost him a big payout and has left him virtually pennyless in his 80s,
In fact she never lived with him and had her own place the entire time , a disgusting miscarriage of justice that ruined him and she is still living the high life with another old guy……..
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