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I remember when

Remember when the front page of the newspaper used to be the latest, most important, news.
Now the most important news is that Harvey Norman are having another sale.
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January 17, 2021 8:04am
- MCos
  
  Back in the good old days the front page was a sea of ads.
  Might have been births, deaths etc too. I can’t remember precisely.
  
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  January 17, 2021 11:01am
  - MCos
    
    This is getting back a bit!
    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS372-KCFDZ7vrJe6oVx9d9MjWG5j7mAz7uYw&usqp=CAU
    
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    January 17, 2021 11:31am
    - Don Beckett
      
      Front page???? I doubt it – the front page always has the name of the publication.
      
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      January 17, 2021 5:25pm
  - Mike
    
    But what was good, then, is very, very bad now…
    
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    January 17, 2021 11:42am
- oldfella
  
  IRW: I seem to recall a time when our newspapers’ front pages was all advertising, with the news inside. Can’t recall when that changed.
  
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  January 17, 2021 11:06am
- G152
  
  When I worked on the Evening Post the front page was ads.
  That stopped when we went decimal currency and printed a dollar note on the front page
  
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  January 17, 2021 11:08am
- Ruahine
  
  Thank Goodness for that.
  I do need a new one of these. My old analogue model is not getting the hair as straight as I would like it.
  
  https://www.harveynorman.co.nz/personal-care-and-health/hair-care/straighteners/vs-sassoon-digital-hair-straightener.html
  
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  January 17, 2021 11:15am
- V
  
  I remember when the news was actually news and not “telling you what to think and do” – which would be a more accurate description of today’s ‘news’.
  
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  January 17, 2021 4:09pm
JibberJabber

Todays Quiz, courtesy of the Twitter…

Who am I ?
Capitalism has failed.
In the last 3 yrs
I got a $2ml house, a Tesla, a top of the line Hyundai EV, boyfriend has new boat and ute
I am paid $10,000 a week
plus I do magazine fluff pieces on the side
Boyfriend is given massive taxpayer grants for his fishing show.
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January 17, 2021 8:08am
- 3-coil
  
  Excellent JJ ! ?
  
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  January 17, 2021 9:47am
- tedbear
  
  That is hilarious and deserves a special award above and beyond 85 upticks.
  
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  January 17, 2021 9:57am
  - Scooter
    
    If there were annual/monthly best comments awards, that would win hands down.
    
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    January 18, 2021 12:18am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Someone who works part time -sometimes
  
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  January 17, 2021 10:01am
  - pdm
    
    `Someone who works part time -sometimes’
    
    Someone who works part time – full stop.
    
    Fixed it for you Steve.
    
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    January 17, 2021 11:24am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Thanks for that
      
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      January 17, 2021 11:40am
  - artemisia
    
    Unfair. Ms Ardern has the big Year of Delivery in 2021 and needs to be well rested to lead us through the tsunami of expectations of her loyal voters. (And from Ms Collins.)
    
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    January 17, 2021 12:40pm
    - lifesgood
      
      I didn’t know she was pregnant.
      
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      January 17, 2021 2:33pm
- hullkiwi
  
  Please can I have a slice of her failed capitalism/socialist alternative? Because I’ve only had my pay frozen and told to take a voluntary cut, and i work for a government agency.
  
  You figure?
  
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  January 17, 2021 10:13am
- Bob
  
  Now who could this capatilist be?
  I’m stumped for an answer!
  
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  January 17, 2021 10:30am
- renderer
  
  Bloody brilliant
  
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  January 17, 2021 11:16am
artemisia

Shelly Bay occupation is ramping up. Although big funding for legal costs was withdrawn, apparently someone else has stepped up and legal action may still go ahead. (Doubtful IMO as deep pockets will be needed, but hey keeps the narrative alive.)

Assuming the occupation is on still-owned Council land what will the Council do? If nothing then the occupation is effectively legal. Not sure residents and ratepayers will be keen on that.

Since the developer owns most of the site assume nothing to stop them starting the work on that land once they have the right OKs. Will we see occupiers superglued to earth movers? For sure Stuff will be all over that.
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January 17, 2021 8:10am
- Nickc2
  
  I’m not sure who the current owners are but this link points to private ownership. https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/wellington/123400287/council-land-in-capitals-shelly-bay-sold-to-private-developer–not-mana-whenua
  Based on previous history, Cindy’s mob will buy the land from private ownership using taxpayer money and give it to her favoured voters (Maori). A precedent exists and Maori can’t lose.
  
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  January 17, 2021 9:57am
  - artemisia
    
    Most of Shelly Bay is owned by the developer, apart from one part owned by Wellington CC. The Council has voted to sell this to the developer.
    
    Yes Ihumatoa Take 2. Though after that debacle I doubt there will be a captain’s call from Ms Ardern.
    
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    January 17, 2021 10:08am
    - Nickc2
      
      Honestly, I can’t see her not doing it. IMO, she should never have poked her Pinocchio nose into a matter which was between illegal occupiers and the courts via the Police.
      
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      January 17, 2021 10:32am
    - pdm
      
      `Yes Ihumatoa Take 2. Though after that debacle I doubt there will be a captain’s call from Ms Ardern.’
      
      I wouldn’t be sure about that Nick – she is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
      
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      January 17, 2021 11:27am
      - Nickc2
        
        ‘she is not the sharpest knife in the drawer’
        
        True pdm. No second opinion called for there.
        
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        January 17, 2021 11:49am
Happychappy

One of the better articles on Taranaki and the Goverments push to create a Hydrogen plant there without plaing for the infrastructure NZ wide and as some of those for and against say they have jumped the gun by putting the cart before the horse by closing off the gas and oil permits in the Taranaki.
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/politics/in-taranaki-just-transition-fails-to-materialise
This again shows that Jacinda Ardern goes off half cocked and leaves all the details for others to fix the problems she has created without thinking of the cost and how NZ will afford it.
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January 17, 2021 8:12am
- Nickc2
  
  What’s the point of a Hydrogen plant when AFIK, there are no vehicle manufacturers mass producing vehicles to use the stuff FFS.
  A bit like Helen Clark’s Bio-Diesel. That was a roaring success (not).
  
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  January 17, 2021 10:05am
- JJ56
  
  The hydrogen economy internationally is being driven by its production from fossil fuels with Carbon Capture & Storage/Use. Produced this way it could potentially get to be a competitive solution for heavy vehicles if the GHG tax is high enough.
  
  Only in NZ do we close down fossil fuels and claim instead to love hydrogen from electricity. This will be 2-3 X more expensive. The smart money in NZ will go elsewhere while this situation lasts.
  
  Even more curious are those that think we can export our hydrogen (at considerable further cost) and that others will buy it rather than buy the cheap alternative at perhaps half to a third the cost.
  
  Now about that hole in the ground at Onslow.
  
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  January 17, 2021 10:36am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Diatomic hydrogen does not occur naturally on Earth. Storage (let alone transportation) of this Houdini-like substance is a nightmare.
    
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    January 17, 2021 5:35pm
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Taranaki sheeple deserve every failure and catastropy coming their way. They voted Labour big time.
  
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  January 17, 2021 4:09pm
JibberJabber

Britain 2021
https://twitter.com/bobscartoons/status/1350512560857034761
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January 17, 2021 8:12am
WaynelSexton

Pol pot doesn’t understand genocide.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AbaHCV-nYZo
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January 17, 2021 8:50am
JibberJabber

https://www.lifenews.com/2021/01/14/amazon-sells-204-items-promoting-violence-and-hate-like-this-kill-all-republicans-shirt/
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January 17, 2021 9:01am
- Inandout
  
  JJ, more evidence for the law suit.
  
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  January 17, 2021 10:20am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Past 9am and Kiwiblog is still asleep
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January 17, 2021 9:05am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Noticed that. I guess even the Mods have to have Sunday off. Maybe they’re all at Mass with Maggie.
  
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  January 17, 2021 9:07am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    I saw Batman there.
    He was the only one in the congregation wearing his mask upside down.
    
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    January 17, 2021 9:48am
    - Tall Man
      
      Worrying about what he might see rather than breathe ……….
      
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      January 17, 2021 10:01am
Don Beckett

Obviously a large number of commenters are asleep still. at 9.06 am.
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January 17, 2021 9:06am
Maggy Wassilieff

Maybe they are studying how to be a man in 2021
https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/well-good/teach-me/123798531/hell-be-right-in-search-of-the-right-way-to-be-a-man-in-2021
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January 17, 2021 9:21am
- pdm
  
  Senior consultant is David Cunliffe.
  
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  January 17, 2021 9:24am
- Dan Glebitz
  
  I thought nz was almost at peak wokeness, clearly not and a long way to go yet. 🙁
  
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  January 17, 2021 9:27am
- theoldbloke
  
  Thanks Maggie. Very pertinent to me recently (75 next muck spreading).
  
  I have decided to give up trying to be a modern bloke and PC/woke whatever. Its bloody hard work and I usually get it wrong.
  I do enjoy the sub teenage grandchildren however – they havent been wokised much yet. They are about having fun with this old bloke when the parents are not around.
  
  So, I call women darling to their face and Sheilahs when referring to them as a group. As in yews shelahs cookup a great barbie.
  
  I tell other peoples kids off when they are being a pain in the rectum and to hell with what their ranting woke parents say…
  
  While I love the modern world with all its gadgets and toys.
  I miss the life we all lead back in the 50s and 60s when we had respect for the police and each other and thought politicians were doing an OK job(generally) looking after us.
  
  To sorta quote Martin Luther King Jnr. We judged someone by their character not their skin colour, gender or political beliefs(we didnt talk about that much).
  
  The ultimate accolade was
  Hes a good bloke or a good sheilah.
  
  Ah the days of Billy T and Fred Dagg. When we could poke the borax without everyone getting upset.
  
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  January 17, 2021 9:46am
  - artemisia
    
    Tradie job vacancy one of ours is looking at – requirement is to be a good bugger.
    
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    January 17, 2021 9:59am
  - BeeJay
    
    Sub teenage granddaughter (5) seen sitting in Nanas fancy new chair with her arms folded. “What are you doing?” I ask. “I’m being Nana” she replies. I start to talk to her, and she yells at me “Be quiet!”
    Don’t you just love them!
    
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    January 17, 2021 10:12am
  - IC5000
    
    > So, I call women darling to their face and Sheilahs when referring to them as a group
    
    I am with you. I refer to anyone over 50 as an ‘old c$nt’ to their face and they often get offended. These woke has beens just can’t handle the truth of who they are.
    
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    January 17, 2021 12:09pm
    - Harriet
      
      I am with you. I refer to anyone on the left side of politics as ‘less than respectable ‘ to their face and they become all emotional, and crazed, almost to the point of being deplorable. These new adults can’t handle the truth of who they are; you are disgracing the teachers union, again. 😎
      
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      January 17, 2021 1:08pm
    - artemisia
      
      Some of them perfected the fast knee to the testicles a few decades ago, when chaps were men.
      
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      January 17, 2021 1:20pm
    - Tall Man
      
      So you equate “sheila” with “old C…”.
      
      What does that say about you?
      
      I’m sure Crumpy would have a decent phrase for you.
      
      https://www.wheelers.co.nz/books/9780473145644-bushwoman-a-search-for-the-perfect-place/
      
      “In the sixties a rumour began to circulate in the New Zealand back country; a good-looking German sheila had been seen hiking around the bush and mountains, on her own”
      
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      January 17, 2021 2:24pm
      - IC5000
        
        [Deleted – learn to make your comments without the profanity else they will continue to be deleted. Mod.]
        
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        January 17, 2021 6:34pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Phew, I was “mortified” …..
        
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        January 17, 2021 9:41pm
Don Beckett

Maybe we are supposed to be in Lockdown, and the govt. stuffed that up as well. 😉
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January 17, 2021 9:28am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I think we are allowed internet bubbles in lockdown.
  
  Besides, it is easy for Labour trolls and spy geeks to monitor us on KB than search for us in the undergrowth.
  
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  January 17, 2021 9:35am
  - Tall Man
    
    There are times recently Maggy when I think the insane are now actually running the Kiwiblog asylum 😉
    
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    January 17, 2021 9:38am
- JibberJabber
  
  Yep, there’s a reason why Jacinda keeps importing Covid carriers and guess who’ll get the blame once she’s released it into the community.
  
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  January 17, 2021 9:36am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Yep, it will be our fault for being complacent.
    
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    January 17, 2021 10:07am
    - Tall Man
      
      Not turning on bluetooth ……..
      
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      January 17, 2021 10:11am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Not washing hands….
        
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        January 17, 2021 10:32am
cmm

I see our Christchurch luvvies are trying to force people to build or sell. They’re basically after the rates and trying to shut down Christchurch’s current excess of parking space.

Well luvvies, perhaps people would be more inclined to invest if you were not making it so damn difficult to trade in Chch.

Traffic flow is getting hammered by 30km/h zones and cutting down three lane roads to single lanes by replacing them with bus lanes, cycle lanes and car pool lanes which carry very little traffic.

No doubt they’ve only started and it will get worse.

Why would someone set up a retail business in the inner city when it is much easier to do so in the outer city or, better still, over the internet?

So now we have “prime” inner city land standing empty while building is booming elsewhere.

Perhaps it is time to realise that it is your interference that is causing problems.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/business/the-rebuild/123646110/call-for-action-as-20pc-of-central-christchurch-sites-remain-undeveloped
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January 17, 2021 9:39am
Fletch

Screenshots of Discord chat logs starting to come through now showing anti-Trump protesters planning the riot on November 6.

https://thenationalpulse.com/news/chat-logs-rally-plot-trump/

https://twitter.com/jessiprincey/status/1349915591256264704
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January 17, 2021 9:48am
- Don Beckett
  
  Cue Batman along any time to deny…deny…deny.
  It’s all jacked up by the alt. right.
  
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  January 17, 2021 10:08am
  - Inandout
    
    DB, 9.58 comment took his place.
    
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    January 17, 2021 10:27am
  - oldfella
    
    Don, if Batman has just been to Mass he might still be full of the spirit of forgiveness. Probably won’t last long. 😉
    
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    January 17, 2021 11:15am
    - lifesgood
      
      But seriously, Batman must be one of the most unhappy, miserable jokers on the planet. And talk about woke! I ask you. Buggered if I know why and how he is a mod.
      
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      January 17, 2021 2:39pm
- The Proper Ghandi
  
  Maybe, maybe not. However, given that under the particular circumstances and viewed in the proper political context, the actions taken at the Capitol by Trump supporters were 100% the correct course to take – given that all other usual means of recourse had been denied them.
  
  It is fundamentally wrong to buy into the unexamined assumption underpinning the popular narrative that they were in the wrong, and therefore people who in fact had zero to do with it must be identified and held to account. We don’t need to invoke the spectre of Antifa actors as a result of accepting a false narrative.
  
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  January 17, 2021 10:25am
  - mikenmildagain
    
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    Ah, you must be dreaming of the day when a mob riots and assaults our own parliament, looking to lynch elected representatives.
    
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    January 17, 2021 10:33am
    - The Proper Ghandi
      
      Not at all. But if any government of any stripe were to install itself by means of flagrant fraud, then, in concert with other branches of government, refuse to entertain let alone rectify any concerns presented, then it should come as no surprise if heterodox means of recourse from outside of the system are attempted. Let’s call it the “don’t screw us and we won’t storm our own House of Representatives to express our displeasure” political principle.
      
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      January 17, 2021 11:16am
      - Mike
        
        Maybe some riots or revolutions are justified, or at least inevitable. This one wasn’t – it sought to overturn the democratic decision.
        
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        January 17, 2021 11:45am
      - artemisia
        
        There are judges and politicians but also tens of millions of US voters who still wonder and worry. Fertile ground for more action to come, and not all at the ballot box.
        
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        January 17, 2021 12:46pm
      - Couchpotatoe
        
        There will be plenty of displeasure shown by the Federal Courts as these rebels without a clue suffer the consequences of their actions.
        
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        January 18, 2021 7:54am
- Surely Knott
  
  This is also interesting analysis of the video analysis of video by Jaydenx aka Sullivan the Antifa agent provocateur who has been charged. And how two others act together to break the window and activate the crowd and then back off and remove hat to change appearance.. https://mobile.twitter.com/ganaha_masako/status/1348796181326032896/photo/2
  
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  January 17, 2021 11:28am
  - Batman
    
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    You kids are getting really creative with these fantasy narratives. You should take up novella writing ?
    
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    January 17, 2021 11:42am
  - Lance
    
    So all those braindead Trump supporters caught on camera (and identified) were Antifa puppets?
    The narrative just gets weirder by the hour.
    
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    January 17, 2021 11:52am
    - Surely Knott
      
      No one said All are Antifa/BLM. But Sullivan (aka Jayden x) is. And convicted and charged. Do keep up.
      
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      January 17, 2021 12:21pm
      - RichardX
        
        No one said all the rioters were responding to Trumps speech either. Do keep up.
        
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        January 17, 2021 12:56pm
  - IC5000
    
    > And how two others act together to break the window and activate the crowd and then back off and remove hat to change appearance..
    
    This building most likely has CCTVs in every hallway. Lies like this are going to be very easy to disprove.
    
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    January 17, 2021 2:34pm
hullkiwi

From the world of the silly woke and proof urban residents don’t have a clue about agriculture….

Vegan chicken food. Sells for a premium price in Pack N Save.

If you feed chickens this stuff, you:
1. Cannot be allowing your chickens to free range, because chickens forage for food like worms, and other insects. Giving them added protein in their diets;
2. Don’t know that chickens are omnivores and will naturally search for and eat insects and worms; and
3. As our 12 year old says, eaters of chickens and eggs are not vegetarian/vegan, so why should they worry that the chicken has eaten Vegan Chicken Food?

The fact that this product can be sold and purchased, just goes to show the average IQ level of the modern Kiwi is lower than many of is think!
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January 17, 2021 9:51am
- Dan Glebitz
  
  [Deleted – You’ve been permanently banned from KB for your persistent failure to follow the rules. Please go and infest another blog; try ysb.co.nz or thestandard.org.nz . They’re not fussy. Mod.]
  
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  January 17, 2021 10:03am
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    YSB? Far as I can tell that’s not a faux conservative blog inhibited by woke, progressive moderation. The National Party’s forgotten voting base in other words.
    
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    January 17, 2021 2:57pm
- mikenmildagain
  
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  The average IQ level of the modern Kiwi is lower than many of is (sic) think!
  
  You don’t need to venture to the supermarket for that. A quick scroll through any Kiwiblog general debate thread would do it.
  
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  January 17, 2021 10:35am
  - oldfella
    
    Do you mean WE, but not THEE, Mike?
    
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    January 17, 2021 11:18am
    - Mike
      
      It’s a collective commendation.
      
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      January 17, 2021 11:46am
- Ehlana
  
  How do they establish that the chickens are vegan before they feed them the vegan chicken food?
  
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  January 17, 2021 7:00pm
Couchpotatoe

Has not taken long for the “patriots” who stormed the Capitol Building to realise they are now in the poo bigly.

A Jenna Ryan, who took a private jet to Washington is now begging the Liar in Chief for a pardon.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/16/us-capitol-rioters-donald-trump-pardons

The term Cognitive Dissonance should be trending strongly in this one Obi Wan Kenobi.
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January 17, 2021 9:58am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Will be president be able to issue any more pardons will all his staff leaving the white house before the inauguration? Can he just write a list of names with a sharpie? Will Rudi help him now that he’s not going to get paid?
  
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  January 17, 2021 10:39am
  - Couchpotatoe
    
    Indeed. While rated as the Worst President EVER by Comic-book Man, the Orange Roughy is a dab hand with sharpies to be fair.
    
    Even able change the course of a Cyclone by way of a Presidential scribble.
    
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    January 17, 2021 2:01pm
- Batman
  
  I’d like to lighten the mood by mentioning this quote about Ms Ryan, which is truly hilarious…
  
  https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/16/us/politics/arrests-capitol-riot.html
  
  “Then, just before she entered, she turned to the camera and said: “Y’all know who to hire for your Realtor. Jenna Ryan for your Realtor.”
  
  Just amazing stuff ???
  
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  January 17, 2021 11:13am
  - Mike
    
    Her advertising will strike a chord with the rubes. Sadly, none of them own houses, and she won’t be doing much business from jail anyway.
    
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    January 17, 2021 11:50am
- peterwn
  
  That is why the Greens pressed for a ‘clean slate’ law some years ago – to ‘erase’ convictions their MP’s and members got resulting from unruly protests. Remember that Tim Shadbolt was caught letting down the tyres of a paddy wagon during a protest.
  
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  January 17, 2021 12:35pm
  - Couchpotatoe
    
    sounds like sedition to me.
    
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    January 17, 2021 2:02pm
hullkiwi

Proof that we have been fed a diet of lies and misinformation.

Yesterday, travelling north on SH1, just passed Orewa exit/on ramp, we passed a campervan. But not just any campervan. It was a left hand drive German campervan, complete with German oval “D” sticker, German number plates (front and back) from the city of registration, no NZ plates or vehicle registration certificates.
The tax registration was 2020 from the German city/Land Kreis the vehicle was registered in.

For those who doubt my knowledge, I lived & worked in Germany for 2 years.

But my question is, how can this be if our borders are shut? Tourists do not get 12 month visas? In the middle of a pandemic (with borders shut), you don’t export a campervan half way round the world, and have a touring holiday in the destination country, particularly when the anointed one and her useless cabinet have told us the borders are shut!
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January 17, 2021 10:05am
- Tall Man
  
  It could be a personal import.
  
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  January 17, 2021 10:25am
  - hullkiwi
    
    That was the only explanation we could come up with. But why?, a left hand drive, from a city in the middle of Germany. Clearly, a Kiwi couple with lots of money, waiting out the pandemic!
    
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    January 17, 2021 10:38am
    - Batman
      
      How did you see the registration while passing it? Fighter pilot eyesight…
      
      Anyway, they will have to have arrived before mid- March, probably with permits to import and operate their camper. Though they will have been issued with local plates so should be displaying them. I’d be interested in what the police have to say…
      
      The costs of importation alone will have been tens of thousands of dollars. Which is a very weird approach to take
      
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      January 17, 2021 11:18am
      - hullkiwi
        
        Don’t need fighter pilot eyes, just need to know what to look for.
        
        1.the German tax disc is adhered to the number plate (front & back).
        
        2. We passed them the left, so could see no NZ tax registration sticker.
        
        3. A German number plate tells you where the car is registered.
        
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        January 17, 2021 11:59am
      - Tall Man
        
        “The costs of importation alone will have been tens of thousands of dollars.”
        
        Rubbish. Depending on size, unknown, it may have been shipped in a container in tandem with another or a caravan or similar.
        
        Duty and gst would apply but have a look …….
        
        https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/caravans-motorhomes/motorhomes/9-metres-and-over/listing/2666301277?bof=fVvficht
        
        Probably not for your average public servant though.
        
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        January 17, 2021 2:07pm
  - cmm
    
    My knowledge of the laws are limited, but:
    1) If you are a resident importing a vehicle into NZ for use here then it needs to be re-registered here (NZ WOF etc too). This happened to some of my wife’s rellies when they imported a vehicle when they moved to NZ. They didn’t drive around on South African plates.
    2) Surely the only way you keep the foreign registration is if the vehicle is only temporarily traveling through NZ. ie they are tourists traveling through NZ and are then shipping it to the next country in their round the world tour.
    
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    January 17, 2021 11:16am
    - Tall Man
      
      Also possibly on a badly displayed D plate, just in transit to a testing station after a very recent arrival or someone having a sneaky drive safe in the knowledge that the police are too busy looking for speedsters.
      
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      January 17, 2021 1:59pm
    - Dougal10
      
      Or Diplomatic registration.
      
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      January 17, 2021 2:28pm
      - hullkiwi
        
        No, not a diplomatic vehicle. They don’t have standard German plates.
        
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        January 17, 2021 4:49pm
    - hullkiwi
      
      cmm, I agree with you.
      
      1. Vehicles that belong to Liwi residents must be registered, tax paid and with WOF within a short time of arrival;
      2. Cars imported by tourists can only be on the roads for 6 months from arrival, else they will need to be registered.
      
      So, that brings us back to what did we see yesterday? Either:
      1. Returnees kiwis who will not stay for long;
      2. Germans on tourist visas, but how? Those arriving last year will have expired visas; or
      3. Germans, who have expired visas.
      
      All in all, there is something that does not add up with what we saw yesterday.
      
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      January 17, 2021 4:43pm
- GJM
  
  We have pommie friends travelling around NZ at present. They have their own camper, imported from the UK (NZ registered) and have been here since before the first lockdown. They have had their visas extended a couple of times and are legal in NZ. Busy travelling and spending money in NZ and in no hurry to go back to their cold and covid infested UK city. The NZ economy will have been better off by thousands of dollars.
  
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  January 19, 2021 11:06am
MCos

The previous post about Charles Upham left me wondering if President Trump will write an autobiography of his time in the WH as is common practice once Presidents leave office.
I picked up Bill Clinton’s book at an op shop and it his remained on the shelf unopened. Similarly Margaret Thatcher’s book, which I have actually glanced at, but it looks dull as dish water.
I read about 2/3 of Tony Blair’s book, which was very good, I thought. But then I stopped short of his Iraq mistake and subsequent slide into unpopularity.
Marilyn Waring’s retelling of her nine years in parliament is a fascinating insight into the National Party under the draconian leadership of Rob Muldoon. It didn’t end well for anyone except NZ.
More recently I read Judith Collins’ book. What a wonderful woman!
Personally I prefer autobiographies of rock stars such as Keith Richards, Bruce Springsteen, Elton John. They don’t care what they say. If they’ve spent years in a haze they’ll tell you.
There’s one thing for sure with Donald Trump. He’ll never admit to a mistake.
Those bone spurs were genuine.
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January 17, 2021 10:20am
- Inandout
  
  MCos, taking into account your fixation with The Donald I look forward to quieter times after Joe slips into the hot seat.
  
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  January 17, 2021 10:29am
  - oldfella
    
    Yes, when Joe slips into the hot seat and even further into dementia.
    
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    January 17, 2021 11:23am
    - Batman
      
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      So I have to ask, are you guys going to run this line for the full four years despite it being blatantly not true?
      
      Because you know when he’s President he will spend more time in front of the camera in unscripted situations which will prove the lie you’ve been running.
      
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      January 17, 2021 11:26am
      - oldfella
        
        Do you really think he will spend much time in front of the camera in unscripted situations? Really?
        He spent almost his whole campaign doing pre-recorded interviews and obviously reading pre-prepared answers from some kind of prompt. while still stumbling around.
        I’m sure, Batman, the US media pack will now jump all over him, live (ala Trump) and really test his mental ability… yeah, nah.
        
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        January 17, 2021 11:45am
      - Mike
        
        Oh Batman, surely you know by now that “truth isn’t truth”.
        
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        January 17, 2021 11:52am
      - Inandout
        
        Bat, you clearly have no idea what dementia is and his time is limited, which is exactly why he was chosen. My God, did you not watch the Dem line up on TV before they picked their ‘leader’? It was so embarrassing even CNN was forced to admit it.
        
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        January 17, 2021 11:57am
      - RiP NZ
        
        So Batman, when Biden referred to the largest vote fraud system ever created, as that the truth then…seeing as you believe his faculties are sound
        
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        January 17, 2021 12:48pm
  - Tall Man
    
    “Slips in the hot seat”.
    
    Fixed.
    
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    January 17, 2021 1:55pm
- kowtow
  
  Biden’s asthma .
  
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  January 17, 2021 10:38am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Lifeguard with asthma, amazing
    
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    January 17, 2021 11:37am
Maggie Pie

Just got the sheets out on the line.
Have you ever stood there waiting for the washing machine to finish the last 5 minutes of its Spin Cycle?
Takes about a f–king hour.
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January 17, 2021 10:20am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  https://miro.medium.com/max/1575/0*wp8Ttvtz6sFYBsM_.gif
  
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  January 17, 2021 10:42am
- Mike
  
  Not got a maid?
  
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  January 17, 2021 11:54am
  - MCos
    
    She is the maid.
    
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    January 17, 2021 1:10pm
    - Tall Man
      
      And who said only women are “bitchy”?
      
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      January 17, 2021 1:53pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      Now you’re staring to sound like my partner with his silly….
      WOMANIFOLD
      
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      January 17, 2021 2:08pm
Inandout

Maggie, most modern washers ‘sense’ the amount of water left in the load before stopping. Those big bloomers stay wet for yonks.
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January 17, 2021 10:31am
Inandout

Another opinion regarding section 230.
https://news.gab.com/2020/10/16/the-repeal-section-230-narrative-is-being-pushed-by-silicon-valley/#more-2034
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January 17, 2021 10:34am
curry4me

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/15/never-trump-leader-john-weaver-admits-to-allegations-of-inappropriate-texts-to-young-men/

Never Trumpers Hanky Panky.

John Weaver — the co-founder of the anti-Trump super PAC Lincoln Project — addressed the “inappropriate” sexually charged messages that he has been sending to men, stating that he is gay.
“The truth is that I’m gay. And that I have a wife and two kids who I love. My inability to reconcile those two truths has led to this agonizing place,” said Weaver in a statement to Axios on Friday.
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January 17, 2021 10:40am
- Inandout
  
  curry, the mind boggles when reading ‘agonising place’.
  
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  January 17, 2021 12:00pm
  - JackRabbit
    
    I think by ‘agonising place’ he means ‘the swamp’. As a swamp dweller, any wonder he hates Trump.
    
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    January 17, 2021 1:35pm
  - curry4me
    
    Inandout: Oh, I missed that phrase. Maybe KY jelly would have decreased the agony?
    
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    January 17, 2021 11:44pm
curry4me

https://www.theepochtimes.com/judge-in-facebook-antitrust-lawsuits-sets-deadlines-for-response_3656765.html

Anti-trust News.

The judge overseeing two separate lawsuits against Facebook by the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) and a group of state attorneys general set a March deadline for the social media company to respond, according to a court filing on Jan. 13.
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January 17, 2021 10:41am
Brian McDonald

There’s a realtor that has made the plea to be pardoned by Trump for being part of the mob at the Capitol. She says she was doing what the President asked. How inconvenient.
Moreover, I don’t know in American Law if a person can be pardoned who has not been convicted. It’s a pretty interesting situation. Why wouldn’t the dear Don pardon all the protestors in order to protect himself?
He suddenly looks like a used car sales with an empty lot trying to talk up sales for cars he hasn’t got.
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January 17, 2021 10:47am
- Tall Man
  
  So let me see … An idiot blames Trump for their personal stupidity and others leap on board in agreement……. I suppose they need to stick together as real people just downtick them and move on.
  
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  January 17, 2021 1:51pm
KiWombat

I see Bloomberg is tracking the rollout of the various covid vaccines here:-

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/

If New Zealand goes “hard and fast” we could make the 50th country to commence a vaccination programme.

Highly unlikely !

If we go “average and moderate” we could even make the first 100 – but again, with everybody on extended annual leave that is equally unlikely.

Maybe we should just set our sight on beating Australia onto the scoreboard – something for which we seem to have a modicum of national pride !
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January 17, 2021 11:06am
Maggie Pie

TRENDING…..

TBH, I’d never even heard of Sasha Johnson before this.
But checking out the comments below the vid, she looks about as popular as SB2 is here 😀

https://twitter.com/BrettEverest/status/1350554163994890241
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January 17, 2021 11:09am
CJames

I note in the US news reports that someone has been arrested trying to go through a DC checkpoint with a 9mm pistol and a whole lot of ammo. He also was supposed to have shown a fake ID. What is the bet that this will be turned into a sniper story, rather than just a firing range gun nut who got caught out by the checkpoints?
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January 17, 2021 11:18am
- Batman
  
  He had a pass that was not fake but unverified. He had a glock and 500 rounds of ammo in his truck.
  
  So yeah, not great.
  
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  January 17, 2021 11:28am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    When I was in Alaska we went to the gun range. It was not unusual for everyone in our host family to have 500 rounds.
    Btw, a semi 9mm slide got my thumb. Everyone thought I had shot myself. I was warn beforehand but it was my first time with a handgun – so much happening I forgot
    
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    January 17, 2021 1:34pm
    - Tall Man
      
      My son’s partner has rellies in Switzerland.
      
      They went shooting in the hills with quite a few thousand machine pistol rounds and a grenade launcher …….
      
      Small arms are kept near the front door in an umbrella stand, the big stuff is in the basement.
      
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      January 17, 2021 1:48pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Different World for sure. Host family head Jayson has a sort of Gurkha knife in a sheath tucked under the bed mattress and a 5 shot 12G in the closet buy the door. Not in a safe coz it’s like trying to put a seatbelt on when you are going to have an accident. 4 year old kid in that house too.
        
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        January 17, 2021 2:56pm
      - artemisia
        
        Switzerland has the largest military in the world, per capita. And they have to remain armed in their homes for many years including retraining time to time.. The Swiss airforce can close roads for their planes.
        
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        January 17, 2021 4:35pm
Maggie Pie

I wonder if he lets them shit on people’s berms?

https://twitter.com/maddhav_/status/1350523583424958464
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January 17, 2021 11:35am
- Don Beckett
  
  Hell no Maggie – those dogs’ poo would stink out the whole neighborhood.
  
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  January 17, 2021 5:44pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Below is a list of things I am allowed to say on Facebook:
Below is a list of the things I’m allowed to say on Facebook:
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January 17, 2021 11:51am
- Inandout
  
  SO, number 10, how I left Facebook.
  
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  January 17, 2021 12:03pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    That will happen next time some kid factchecker in short pants puts me in jail again
    
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    January 17, 2021 1:36pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      eg: A meme showing a welder laying a weld. Caption “And I said to myself, what a wonderful weld” in reference to Louis Armstrong’s Wonderful World.
      I got a warning – insufficient context for fucks sake
      
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      January 17, 2021 1:38pm
      - alloytoo
        
        Perhaps I’m showing my age or naivety, but even if you don’t get the Armstrong reference, how is that objectionable?
        
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        January 17, 2021 5:59pm
kevn

@SteveO… Add: A list of thing you’re not allowed to say on fakebook.
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January 17, 2021 12:08pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  With the fact check kids still in short pants, they would probably fact check my name and tell me it was prohibited content
  
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  January 17, 2021 1:41pm
Maggie Pie

WOW! Just heard CNN reporting there’s 20,000 troops stationed in Washington DC!

That’s 19,990 more than Joe Biden gets at a rally.

Just saying.
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January 17, 2021 12:34pm
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, why so many?
  
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  January 17, 2021 12:42pm
  - SB2
    
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    The 20,000 is due to the violence, thuggery and security breaches by Trump supporters on the 6th of this month.,
    
    https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/us-elections-government/ny-capitol-riot-cop-killed-20210108-3zruid66fvg4dowi5ntujm6kxa-story.html
    
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    January 17, 2021 1:00pm
    - RiP NZ
      
      https://www.bizpacreview.com/2021/01/15/hundreds-of-rioters-destroyed-property-set-fires-during-trumps-2017-inauguration-and-all-charges-were-dropped-1016798/
      
      If you didn’t have double standards…..
      
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      January 17, 2021 1:22pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      20,000 is due to the fake news reports. Fixed it for you stupid boy
      
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      January 17, 2021 1:42pm
- SB2
  
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  Trump’s crowd was pretty average/ poor compared to Obama in 2009
  
  https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/1/24/14354036/crowds-presidential-inaugurations-trump-average
  
  Just saying
  
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  January 17, 2021 12:54pm
- Fletch
  
  As I said yesterday – no one is allowed in the National Mall, so Biden will be inaugurated in an empty Mall surrounded by 20,000 soldiers. That sounds like something that might happen in a Communist country…
  
  We all know the real reason for closing the Mall is the bad optics there would be of so few people attending. It would be far fewer than at Trump’s inauguration. Biden had very few turn up at his rallies before the election. Meanwhile, I hear that protests will be happening in every city.
  
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  January 17, 2021 1:17pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    20,000 soldiers is not a Covid risk, but large numbers of Trump supporters are a Covid risk. Check with Batman – he has the facts
    
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    January 17, 2021 1:45pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Possibly 20,000 fit healthy servicemen aren’t at risk, although you can’t say that these days, whereas 20,000 fat squishy democrats with 50% struggling with commorbidities would be 😉
      
      You think that’s it?
      
      https://redstate.com/streiff/2017/01/11/science-democrat-women-tend-butt-ugly-n66027
      
      https://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/overweight-democrats-blame-genetics-obesity-overweight-republicans-blame/
      
      https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20170210040940AADIyGW
      
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      January 17, 2021 2:15pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Rosie O’Donnell will be around to sort you out before lunchtime
        
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        January 17, 2021 3:00pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Jeez Steve, you know how to make a threat real ……..
        
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        January 17, 2021 5:02pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      It’s almost as if you wouldn’t get 20,000 troops together in a pandemic, unless there were reasons to believe thousands of troops might be needed to protect the president and the rest of the government.
      
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      January 17, 2021 2:55pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        20,000 troops means less room for Trump supporters? Maybe the RINOs are in on this?
        
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        January 17, 2021 3:03pm
  - SGA
    
    We all know the real reason for closing the Mall is the bad optics there would be of so few people attending. It would be far fewer than at Trump’s inauguration.
    
    Yeah, Fletch, the recent storming of Capitol Hill by Trump supporters has nothing to do with it. (Yeah, yeah, they weren’t Trump supporters, they were all antifa plants – including those now facing criminal charges).
    
    Even some of the most ardent Trump acolytes must be realising that the longer this goes on the sillier you and your demagogue look. Really.
    
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    January 17, 2021 2:10pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      It stands to reason that those who shared Trump’s obsession with the size of his inauguration crowd would fixate on this. Never mind that there is a raging pandemic, armed insurrectionists have already assaulted the capitol, and there are credible threats of further violence.
      
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      January 17, 2021 2:50pm
Rusty

Where were these 20,000 troops when the Antifa terrorists used the BLM protests to destroy tens of millions of dollars of private property and injure cops and innocent bystanders?
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January 17, 2021 12:48pm
- SB2
  
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  Rusty, refer my link above where 5 were killed including a police officer where a [unknown] [alleged] Trump supporter [allegedly] threw a fire extinguisher at his head.
  
  The company Trumpeters keep!
  
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  January 17, 2021 1:05pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Antifa and BLM infiltrated the Trump rally. Stop it with your constant bullshit
    
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    January 17, 2021 1:46pm
- Fletch
  
  They were requested two days before by the Chief of the Capitol police (who has now stood down). He referred it to the Sergeant at Arms who is supposed to have told Pelosi and McConnell but apparently his requests were denied. I guess they wanted the spectacle of the riot happening to make Trump look bad.
  
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  January 17, 2021 1:20pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    That’s Pelosi for you, she hates Trump and she hates America
    
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    January 17, 2021 1:47pm
  - RichardX
    
    Please provide evidence that the Speaker of the House has the power to call out the National Guard.
    
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    January 17, 2021 3:21pm
- Inandout
  
  Rusty, they were reacting to being ‘oppressed’ for centuries and Nancy backed them. Free sports and white goods stolen are great if you are ‘down trodden’. This double standard hasn’t gone down well with many law abiding citizens,
  
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  January 17, 2021 1:46pm
Happychappy

It looks like Andrew Littles quest to lower the prison population is in full swing now with this person being released three weeks into his sixteen month sentence.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/01/grandmother-devastated-thief-who-robbed-her-of-irreplaceable-family-heirlooms-and-possessions-released-from-jail-just-3-weeks-into-sentence.html
With a not so squeaky clean past record you would wonder why.
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January 17, 2021 12:59pm
- kevn
  
  @Happy… little needs one of these losers to live adjacent to him and create some mayhem.
  
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  January 17, 2021 1:34pm
  - Inandout
    
    kevn, the odds are sooner or later one of our elected/unelected MPs will be affected by serious crime.
    
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    January 17, 2021 1:48pm
- Humble Capitalist
  
  Maybe he got out early because he proved to Golriz that he had paid his parking tickets.
  
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  January 17, 2021 1:40pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  The headline implies he was released after three weeks, when he was actually re-sentenced to home detention.
  
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  January 17, 2021 2:47pm
- tf78
  
  Happy, they’re making room for we conservatives aka ‘the deplorables’.
  
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  January 17, 2021 6:37pm
kowtow

stuffed’s top rating item is a mastercraft in fake news/click bait, deception.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300202050/covid19-managed-isolation-soldier-spoke-of-rape-military-rule-to-scared-returnee

In context the discussion was entirely innocent.

Denigrate the military while it suits , talk em up for one day in April. Media tossers.
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January 17, 2021 1:02pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Yep,
  a complete disconnect between the headline and the actual incident.
  
  Still, can’t help for the MIQ guards to learn not to chit-chat with the clientele.
  
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  January 17, 2021 2:22pm
SB2

Lauren Boebert into the boringly familiar inflamamtory rhetoric likening 6th January to 1776,

https://twitter.com/laurenboebert/status/1346811381878845442
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January 17, 2021 1:15pm
- Inandout
  
  SB2, you are a worried man, it comes across in your comments. Another factor is that you can easily c&p stuff that ‘Dorsey’ has allowed. Useful fool?
  
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  January 17, 2021 1:51pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    ‘Man?’ How dare you?
    
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    January 17, 2021 2:50pm
  - Don Beckett
    
    I&O – he’s not a worried man, he’s a troubled man – psychologically.
    
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    January 17, 2021 5:55pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Prada Cup. Forget TV1 wankers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhOAUmOdDvc
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January 17, 2021 1:53pm
- GazzaW
  
  My UK cousin has just started to watch the Prada Cup round and asked me WTF Tamaki Makorau is. He thought that the AC series was being held in Auckland.
  
  As an aside who put the TV1 team together? Take out Peter Lester and who exactly knows anything about sailing? The occasional expert guest periodically calls in but that’s it. The rest of them were surely selected on the old “it’s not what you know, it’s who you know” basis,
  
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  January 17, 2021 2:41pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Tamaki Makaurau is just like Narnia and Valhalla – exist in the two brain cells that morons are born with
    
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    January 17, 2021 3:09pm
Chuck Bird

This video is from a former Muslim. This would be the sort of thing Labour would like to make a it a crime to put online in New Zealand.

The Pedophile Prophet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fpTOKgKP0g
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January 17, 2021 2:09pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

This is how fucked up the media are. Even United Spot have to tell the morons this is parody. Lefties, go get the basement key off you Mum and hide for a while.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR3Ln9cdFT_tcXNBK6XKRZl0O1WONQ809BJjZuiDTdceryGbFI18P5b03vY&v=u5Y2aYtzr_M&feature=youtu.be
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January 17, 2021 2:40pm
MCos

Time to move on
https://twitter.com/janeygodley/status/1350578808420773892?s=21
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January 17, 2021 2:51pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Uptick from me MCos. Shit Melania now speaks 6 (six) languages. Fuck, wait until the media wanks get on this!!!!
  
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  January 17, 2021 3:11pm
Harriet

They celebrate beating Trump more than they celebrate Biden winning.

They are throwing everything at Trump like he is head of the Iranian Guards.

They hate what he has achieved and what he represents.

And they are now stopping all voters hearing from Trump.

Pelosi tearing up Trump’s SOTU Address is the shear academic height of the term Ultra Violence.

In deplorable terms it’s like standing outside the Supreme Court and pissing into the wind.

In 2022 and 2024 the left will understand that the Conservatives rule by the pen and not the sword. You lengthened the rope and lynched yourselves. 😎
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January 17, 2021 3:10pm
- Fletch
  
  The problem though, is that Democrats are stacking the deck in their favour. Illegally changing election law, most likely stacking the court, ditching the filibuster and the electoral college, granting citizenship to 11 million illegals who they expect to all vote for them… As well as making Puerto Rico and Washington D.C states.
  
  It’s going to be very difficult for the GOP to win again. ?
  
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  January 17, 2021 6:23pm
- RichardX
  
  Harriet
  They celebrate beating Trump more than they celebrate Biden winning.
  
  They are throwing everything at Trump like he is head of the Iranian Guards.
  
  They hate what he has achieved and what he represents.
  
  And they are now stopping all voters hearing from Trump.
  
  Pelosi tearing up Trump’s SOTU Address is the shear academic height of the term Ultra Violence.
  
  In deplorable terms it’s like standing outside the Supreme Court and pissing into the wind.
  
  In 2022 and 2024 the left will understand that the Conservatives rule by the pen and not the sword. You lengthened the rope and lynched yourselves. ?
  
  JANUARY 17, 2021 3:10PM
  
  I know you are trying really, really hard to be a deep thinker but when you misspell words, misuse terms, use inappropriate analogies and assert unsubstantiated claims as though they are facts, readers of your comments may not reach the conclusion you want.
  
  This effort is not quite as bad as your antebellum nonsense but it is close.
  
  They celebrate beating Trump more than they celebrate Biden winning.
  
  Who is “They”
  Celebrating Trump losing and not Biden winning is exactly why Trump lost and why there was a record turnout for this election.
  It is refreshing that someone understands that but not so clear on what position you think this supports.
  
  They are throwing everything at Trump like he is head of the Iranian Guards.
  
  Who is “they” that are throwing everything at the outgoing President?
  What is the “everything” that they are “throwing”?
  Do you mean the Iranian Revolutionary Guard?
  Do you know who the Head of the Iranian Revolution Guard is and the role he plays in global geopolitics?
  
  They hate what he has achieved and what he represents.
  
  Who is “they”?
  What has he “achieved” that they hate?
  What does he “represent” that they hate?
  Your statement sounds more like a sore loser whining than anything meaningful.
  
  And they are now stopping all voters hearing from Trump.
  
  The outgoing President still had the normal Presidential lines of communication.
  His press conference from Texas was available to view live online as Andrei so kindly pointed out.
  There has been news coverage of his public statements and actions.
  His staff still have access to twitter and there are other social media outlets.
  
  Pelosi tearing up Trump’s SOTU Address is the shear [sic] academic height of the term Ultra Violence.
  
  Bullshit.
  That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
  
  In deplorable terms it’s like standing outside the Supreme Court and pissing into the wind.
  
  Meaningless analogy
  
  In 2022 and 2024 the left will understand that the Conservatives rule by the pen and not the sword. You lengthened the rope and lynched yourselves.
  
  Just unintelligible nonsense with another poor analogy. You may have a valid point but it is not clear what it may be.
  
  If you are saying there will be a Republican rebound in the midterm elections, you are probably correct depending on what happens over the next few months.
  If you are saying there will be a Republican rebound in the next Presidential elections, it is way too early to be able to make any sort of meaningful argument but all you were doing was asserting an opinion, and in my opinion, doing a really bad job of it.
  
  While Fletch is factually incorrect in his response, at least he made sense.
  
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  January 17, 2021 7:13pm
Inandout

This should end these stars’ careers.
https://trends.gab.com/item/60026940aa292f182b953b09
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January 17, 2021 3:33pm
oldfella

For those of you looking for a laugh (probably not you, Batman), Powerline’s Week In Pictures is often good for a chuckle. Works for me. 🙂
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/01/the-week-in-pictures-trumpeachment-edition.php
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January 17, 2021 3:39pm
- Inandout
  
  old, brilliant stuff in there. Reminds me of when the Soviets controlled Eastern Europe and the people had to invent humour, which eventually brought the regime crashing down. Humour can act like a pain in the arse to juntas.
  
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  January 17, 2021 6:26pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Prada Cup fucked for a while. Wind shift. Prada lost over 80 seconds then the race is now restarted?
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January 17, 2021 3:42pm
oldfella

This is not the Babylon Bee, or a p*ss take.
It’s the MSM at its best.
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CNN issues correction of the week, noting that Rep. Ted Lieu grabbed a ProBar energy bar and not a crowbar during the Capitol siege
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/cnn-correction-ted-lieu-grabbed-probar-not-crowbar-capitol-siege-2021-1?r=US&IR=T
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January 17, 2021 3:52pm
lifesgood

Biden has started announcing policies. He will get the US to rejoin the ridiculous climate change initiative and reopen the US to immigration from all muslim countries. I wonder how popular those policies will be? Apparently thousands of south americans are already on the march towards the US as well.
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January 17, 2021 4:10pm
- Inandout
  
  But life, Trump was soundly beaten, we heard it on here.
  
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  January 17, 2021 6:28pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Bored corksoakers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Deqx-Xb-yHY
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January 17, 2021 4:24pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

New Zealand is doing just fine now, right???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9rsxFaq6Ig
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January 17, 2021 4:33pm
- tf78
  
  Steve, all her dreams are coming true. I hope her fans really appreciate what she has in store for them.
  
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  January 17, 2021 6:56pm
Inandout

Politicians are the lowest of the low.
https://trends.gab.com/feed/5daf66772fea4d3ba000883b/item/60039bdd74fa4425294c5e9a
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January 17, 2021 4:39pm
Maggie Pie

As much as I hate that horrible Jimmy Spittle, I still have to make out I’m rooting for him because one of the girls at tennis works for Prada and can get us shoes with a staff discount.
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January 17, 2021 5:15pm
- 70andstilllearning
  
  So you don’t have to worry now MP as DB just showed why Dalt’s took him off the water way back. He will hurt someone next time – if he is allowed another go – he’s a slow learner who can’t assess risk over ego.
  
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  January 17, 2021 7:10pm
Don Beckett

An interesting look at the disappearance of the ‘flu –
Covid 19 has eradicated it. 12 mins, great science.

https://realclimatescience.com/2021/01/new-video-pretzel-logic/
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January 17, 2021 6:01pm
- Tall Man
  
  It eradicated common sense as well.
  
  A helluva job for a teeny tiny virus. Shame ardern hasn’t got some of the same skills….. actually, she eradicated an economy quite well 😉
  
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  January 17, 2021 6:22pm
- SB2
  
  It’s what is known as charitably pseudoscience!
  
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  January 17, 2021 6:23pm
Surely Knott

Book banning fights and mobs still going on in Portland. How dare they publish a book about Antifa. https://twitter.com/i/status/1350647297101746181
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January 17, 2021 6:26pm
Maggie Pie

My partner’s mum just txt…..

‘WOT A F- – ING JONAH THAT DEAN BARKER IS!
THANK CHRIST HE’S NOT DRIVING OUR BOAT’

lol
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January 17, 2021 7:18pm
- 70andstilllearning
  
  MP @16/01/21
  Did you jinx him?
  
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  January 17, 2021 8:09pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Oh gawd – now u mention it……..
    
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    January 17, 2021 9:01pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Thanks for the good times Dean. See ya later.
  Cheers, American Magic.
  
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  January 17, 2021 8:15pm
Fletch

White House releases list of Trump accomplishments – and it’s pages and pages long –

https://www.whitehouse.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments/?utm_source=link
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January 17, 2021 7:54pm
- kevn
  
  @Fletch… Be interesting to see bidens results in 4 years. Certain to be sad reading.
  
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  January 17, 2021 8:24pm
  - Tall Man
    
    And short.
    
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    January 17, 2021 8:42pm
  - Inandout
    
    kevn, Biden month one: ‘you know, the thing’. Well that was Joe’s legacy as he trots off into the sunset.
    
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    January 17, 2021 8:45pm
    - Loddenthinks
      
      Come on man!
      
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      January 17, 2021 9:21pm
- Tall Man
  
  Woo Hoo, winner winner chicken dinner ….
  
  We’ll never see cindy with that list 😉
  
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  January 17, 2021 8:43pm
- Stu2
  
  yes, almost 400,000 covid victims to list
  
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  January 17, 2021 9:06pm
  - Tall Man
    
    How many recovered?
    
    Death rate lower than severe flu?
    
    You forget young man, USA has 330 million people and every year up to 60,000 die from the flu.
    
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    January 17, 2021 9:37pm
    - Doc Holliday
      
      It’s not over yet.
      
      The experts say it’s 10 times worse than influenza.
      
      I don’t care what qualifications you have, or your position in academia if you have one, I’ll follow the science – which means the judgement of the majority of those with demonstrated expertise in the field.
      
      Note, not many healthy young people become so ill from the flu they need to go into intensive care.
      
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      January 17, 2021 10:31pm
    - Stu2
      
      Do you recover from death? John Hopkins has the USA at 395,851 dead right now (in about 11 months)
      
      Oddly covid wasn’t a hoax and nor did it magically disappear
      
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      January 17, 2021 10:44pm
    - Stu2
      
      The massive covid super-spreader event Trump set up on Jan 6 is going to be bad – zillions of gullible maskless morons in close proximity for quite some time
      
      Was that listed among his achievements?
      
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      January 17, 2021 10:51pm
Don Beckett

A little more proof of election fraud for the punters & unbelievers:
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/texas-woman-arrested-for-chasing-ballots-charged-with-election-fraud?utm_source=LifeSiteNews.com&utm_campaign=a21e9607f5-Daily%2520Headlines%2520-%2520World_COPY_932&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_12387f0e3e-a21e9607f5-402335057
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January 17, 2021 7:58pm
- Doc Holliday
  
  Yeah, only some 7,000,000 more cases to prove.
  
  What with the government demolition of World Trade Buildings, fake moon landing, manmade global warming hoax etc you cranks have your work cut out.
  
  PS. The biggest scam of all time must be the Roman Catholic Church.
  
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  January 17, 2021 8:49pm
Monique Watson

Trumps approval hits an all-time low:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/trump-approval-rating-drops-low-capitol-riot.amp

Proving that. Once again. A week or two is a long time in politics. Hindsight proves Trump should have been much more judicious in his use of phrasing to excite his fans as excite perfidiously and definitively became grounds for incite to insurrection.
Popularity bombs. Trump is Goneburgers.
Who’da thunkit?
I guess he can always turn a buck in real estate. Like that silly lady who hopped a jet for Jesus. 😉
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January 17, 2021 8:57pm
- Tall Man
  
  Hi Monique, your’re in the old US of A so I can see why you give a fuck but …….
  
  Please show me, and others, what Trump has done that impacts your life … Asking for Batman as he is really really interested 😉
  
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  January 17, 2021 9:33pm
  - Doc Holliday
    
    It’s not over yet.
    
    Countless millions of dumb bastards believe the rrrs hole’s lies, and they’re heavily armed.
    
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