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krazykiwi

Today is the day the UK removes the final remnants of mask madness. From today patients, clinicians and visitors are no longer required to wear masks in clinical settings. Mandates on public transport were removed a few months back.

I’m keen for one of the Ardern sycophants around here to use The Science™ to explain to me why we are required to wear masks in supermarkets and shops, a question you can perhaps consider while sitting with your radiant visage in full view at a crowded cafe or bar today.
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May 30, 2022 8:01am
- ClanMcleod
  
  I’m picking you aren’t holding your breath waiting for a coherent or logical response?
  The fact people still accede to this stupidity astounds me. It’s no wonder they get called sheep.
  
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  May 30, 2022 8:08am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Indeed I am not, ClanMcleod. Been offline most of the weekend but have just seen DPF post from yesterday – No in-store tastings!. Kb’ers know generally know what is going on here. The lies. The argumentum ad verecundiam used to ban supermarket tastings. It’s time officious little bureaucrats, like the ones at WorkSafe, were put back in their boxes
    
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    May 30, 2022 8:15am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Time they were put out of their meaningless jobs. Nutters.
      
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      May 30, 2022 8:19am
  - kevn
    
    @Clan… Just been to Countdown. I appeared to be the only unmasked one shopping. Sadly.
    The rot has set in thanks to ardens “The Nudge Unit”.
    
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    May 30, 2022 10:28am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      I still wear a mask in the super market, just don’t want the hassle of a kid going all Hitler on me , the same kids hate hitler so funny
      
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      May 30, 2022 11:16am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Or a Karen.
        
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        May 30, 2022 2:51pm
    - Rodion Raskolnikov
      
      How is such an irrational set of ideas as those surrounding Covid accepted by the masses?
      
      Gustav le Bon from The Crowd: A Study of the Popular Mind, re: inculcating ideas among crowds via the means of Affirmation, Repetition and Contagion:
      
      “When it is proposed to imbue the mind of a crowd with ideas and beliefs – with modern social theories, for instance – the leaders have recourse to different expedients. The principal of them are three in number and clearly defined – affirmation, repetition, and contagion. Their action is somewhat slow, but its effects, once produced, are very lasting.
      
      Affirmation pure and simple, kept free of all reasoning and all proof, is one of the surest means of making an idea enter the mind of crowds. The conciser an affirmation is, the more destitute of every appearance of proof and demonstration, the more weight it carries. Statesmen called upon to defend a political cause, and commercial men pushing the sale of their products by means of advertising are acquainted with the value of affirmation.
      
      Affirmation, however, has no real influence unless it be constantly repeated, and so far as possible in the same terms. The thing affirmed comes by repetition to fix itself in the mind in such a way that it is accepted in the end as a demonstrated truth.
      
      The influence of repetition on crowds is comprehensible when the power is seen which it exercises on the most enlightened minds. This power is due to the fact that the repeated statement is embedded in the long run in those profound regions of our unconscious selves in which the motives of our actions are forged. At the end of a certain time we have forgotten who is the author of the repeated assertion, and we finish by believing it. To this circumstance is due the astonishing power of advertisements … we end by acquiring the certitude that such is the fact.
      
      When an affirmation has been sufficiently repeated and there is unanimity in this repetition …. what is called a current of opinion is formed and the powerful mechanism of contagion intervenes. Ideas, sentiments, emotions, and beliefs possess in crowds a contagious power as intense as that of microbes.
      
      In the case of men collected in a crowd all emotions are very rapidly contagious, which explains the suddenness of panics. For individuals to succumb to contagion their simultaneous presence on the same spot is not necessary. The action of contagion may be felt from a distance under the influence of events which give all minds an individual trend and the characteristics peculiar to crowds.
      
      Man, like animals, has a natural tendency to imitation. Imitation is a necessity for him, provided always that the imitation is quite easy. Whether in the matter of opinions, ideas, literary manifestations, or merely of dress, how many persons are bold enough to run counter to the fashion? It is by examples not by arguments that crowds are guided. At every period there exists a small number of individualities which react upon the remainder and are imitated by the unconscious mass. It is needful however, that these individualities should not be in too pronounced disagreement with received ideas.
      
      The opinions and beliefs of crowds are specially propagated by contagion, but never by reasoning. The conceptions at present rife among the working classes have been acquired at the public-house as the result of affirmation, repetition, and contagion, and indeed the mode of creation of the beliefs of crowds of every age has scarcely been different … Contagion is so powerful a force that even the sentiment of personal interest disappears under its action.”
      
      [Emphasis added]
      
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      May 30, 2022 12:17pm
- Simon
  
  “I’m keen for one of the Ardern sycophants around”
  
  Also open to a National party sycophant.
  Use The Science™
  Thanks.
  
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  May 30, 2022 8:13am
  - Matt Long
    
    Where’s Wayne Mapp, he’s pretty good at explaining National’s position when it’s indefensible by logic.
    
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    May 30, 2022 8:47am
    - Local Miller
      
      I find Wayne’s explanations can generally be summarized as: “If National don’t go along they will lose too much support”.
      And to think I almost voted for him but I moved out of his electorate a few months before the election.
      It will be a long cold winter before I ever vote National again.
      
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      May 30, 2022 8:55am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        National must straddle the centre, just as Key worked out, all the people I hear in droves going back to Nats are centre voters, no hard right voter voted Labour, but 400k switched from the centre. Act were set up to aim for the hard right while Nats were too straddle the centre, Ardern is doing the hard left damage, if you vote for one of those tin pot parties like Matt King or NZF then all you do is usher in Cindy
        
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        May 30, 2022 11:44am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      It’s not indefensible at all, science in the farming sector can get our emissions right down, dung Beattie, ryegrass that can cut carbon by 30% right now all helps, what the fuck is indefensible about that?
      I work in agri, and sheep snd beef farmers are very committed to getting their emissions down, they have made quick progress in fencing of water ways 95% planting on un productive lands, many have put planted flaxes and the like near small water bodies like a spring, which creates a carbon sink hole, don’t say bullshit because it’s fact, also sheep farming is now carbon neutral, so the trick is the science getting the dairy and cattle side of things to carbon neutral, farmers are aware they have too move. No one wants yo hear the climate alarmist bullshit, but it does not mean farmers do not want to be seen as clean
      
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      May 30, 2022 11:40am
  - leoj
    
    As an opposition, National is truly pathetic.
    
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    May 30, 2022 9:46am
    - coge
      
      So far in 2022, the only opposition seen were camped out around Parliament buildings.
      
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      May 30, 2022 10:18am
      - hullkiwi
        
        What do you want Luxon to do? In this era he will do nothing for brand National, if he:
        1. Attacks everything Jacinda, just because he is the opposition; and
        2. Lays out all National’s policies 15-17 months before the next election.
        
        Remember, oppositions don’t win elections, governments lose them or as in the case of 2017 a minor party has enough influence to be a king maker.
        
        2020 was an aberration that is unlikely to happen again.
        
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        May 30, 2022 3:04pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Media are firmly in the pocket of the government and the [worst] Speaker [in NZ history] prevents any effective questioning in the house so the Opposition can do almost nothing.
      
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      May 30, 2022 11:20am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      You have two choice, more of this Marxist regime, or pathetic which is offering change, why the hell don’t you wait for their policies that are promised late this year early next.
      Another thing, Mitchell along with Nats candidate in Tauranga are giving a speech on crime and how policing will change under Nats, I suggest you listen instead of whinging unabated
      
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      May 30, 2022 11:47am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    More important, where is Mike? He is good at having an alternative smartarse comment.
    
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    May 30, 2022 9:52am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      He might be polishing up his smart ass😃👍🏻
      
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      May 30, 2022 11:48am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Sorry to read you’ve missed me, Steve. I’ve added something bit different to the bottom of the thread. Hope you enjoy it more than breakfast TV.
      
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      May 30, 2022 2:44pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Would you rather see things banned, or science that can stop costs of farmers , businesses and people, I note the lying Ardern saying in the states that our beef is carbon neutral, what a lying toadie she is, how the hell can she go from wanting stock numbers dropped to waving magic wand and bring carbon free?
    
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    May 30, 2022 11:31am
- Nickc2
  
  I see Cindy walking around in the US not wearing a mask. That is probably because they’re not compulsory eh. What gives?
  
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  May 30, 2022 8:22am
  - Matt Long
    
    The rules don’t apply to special people.
    
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    May 30, 2022 8:40am
  - Local Miller
    
    That’s because she doesn’t need to keep up the image of obeying her rules.
    
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    May 30, 2022 8:56am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I refude that//
    
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    May 30, 2022 9:54am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Oh it’s different over there, look at the types she is meeting, utter socialist scum who have all been caught out in masked on camera especially Newsom and his ugly old auntie Pelosi.
    
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    May 30, 2022 11:50am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      House Drinker’s mask will be soaked in saliva
      
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      May 30, 2022 3:01pm
- Loddenthinks
  
  FYI if anyone wants to, they can apply for a mask exemption (sorry, a Communication Card) here: https://covid19.govt.nz/prepare-and-stay-safe/keep-up-healthy-habits/wear-a-face-mask/who-does-not-need-to-wear-a-face-mask/#if-you-cannot-wear-a-face-mask
  
  You should also be aware that from the end of May, they will bring in a new card which will be personalised i.e. it will have your details. The existing ones don’t say who it’s for, however I’ve only been asked once to show it (getting into Te Papa a couple of weeks ago).
  
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  May 30, 2022 8:25am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Nah, just say you’re not wearing one but thanks for the offer.
    
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    May 30, 2022 8:38am
  - mawm
    
    I refuse to participate in this charade. I will not carry “my papers” or any other type of identifying mark to enable the government or their willing little helpers keep tabs on me. I grew up under apartheid and the majority of the population having to carry the “dompass” which restricted where they could go, what kind of jobs they could have and with whom they could associate. This is no different.
    
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    May 30, 2022 9:44am
    - Rodion Raskolnikov
      
      Yep. Work-arounds simply affirm the system, so should be avoided. Just as many are too scared to disobey (a factor that is known and relied upon for compliance) so too many are too scared to enforce compliance. If challenged, just politely and unyieldingly refuse and if necessary leave the place. If you are not willing to sacrifice in the short term if necessary, then you are going to be a slave longer term. More than likely, nobody will be willing to say anything, and the more so the more people are refusing to comply. Do not underestimate the power that we all have if we stand up for what is right. As much as our elected representatives, we are participants in a so-called free society, but we will be reduced to slaves if we do not assert ourselves, and do it now. The government knows full well how powerful a united populace is, which is why they try so hard to atomise and marginalise dissent.
      
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      May 30, 2022 12:29pm
      - ClanMcleod
        
        Absolutely 100% correct. I think many more understand this now than did a year ago.
        
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        May 30, 2022 4:14pm
  - Joely Doe
    
    There is no requirement to ‘upgrade’ to the new pass. Most places don’t argue if you simply say “I don’t wear a mask”.
    One shop did ask why – OK I didn’t say I had an exemption – and was quite happy when I replied that I followed The Science™.
    
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    May 30, 2022 10:51am
- Scott
  
  krazy – quite right. You are supposed to wear a mask entering the café and ordering your flat white. But then when you sit down it’s all good to take off your mask. It’s a tricky virus that knows when you’re sitting down and when you are standing up.
  The thing about masks is that it shows we are compliant. We are complying to government edicts. It is also an opportunity for people to signal the virtue and show that they are good people and care for other people by wearing masks.
  
  It is a great way for the government to control us and to show us that we are under their control. I have thought for some time that we are in the second term of the rule of increasingly rabid social control freaks. They may smile nicely and speak nicely but at the end of the day they think they know better than you how you should live your life. It amazes me that to this day we still have all of these advertisements on every channel telling us to get a booster and that will be the best protection against covid 19??
  
  When you realise it is all about socialist control then things start to make a lot more sense. The solution is to eject the socialist control freaks from office come the next election.
  
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  May 30, 2022 8:27am
  - My
    
    Yep, i get minimal compliance, from most people, don’t want cause a drama, just can’t be bothered with all out revolution.
    
    But I cannot figure out the over compliance folks, those who continue to wear masks outside, on the beach, in their cars.
    
    Totally committed to the cause I suppose. but there seems to be a lot of them.
    
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    May 30, 2022 9:00am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      They are Jaspinda sycophants My. Don’t matter what happens to NZ turning Communist – they will still vote for her
      
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      May 30, 2022 3:11pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      My – many people have enjoyed the drama of covid and the mask wearing makes them think they are indicating what a “good” citizen they are. That they “care” about others. Virtue signaling, pure and simple. Many have had beige, meaningless lives. This has been “exciting” in a warped way for some sad people. Then of course there are the complete morons who still can’t see through the fraudulent nightmare that is currently our PM. They will believe any lie that comes out of her mouth.
      
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      May 30, 2022 4:20pm
  - Swifty
    
    “When you realise it is all about religious control then things start to make a lot more sense. The solution is to eject the religious control freaks from our lives wherever we find them….”
    
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    May 30, 2022 9:02am
  - Raphael
    
    It’s a tricky virus that knows when you’re sitting down and when you are standing up.
    
    Well people thought you could avoid malaria by climbing a tree……
    
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    May 30, 2022 9:13am
    - Master Mariner
      
      I would rather try the Gin method.
      
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      May 30, 2022 10:08am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      I just had a weird vision of thousands of sycophants up trees LOL.
      Yes, that is how stupid they are.
      
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      May 30, 2022 10:13am
    - alloytoo
      
      no, no, that’s hippos.
      
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      May 30, 2022 10:13am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Hippo racing every Tuesday afternoon down at the Viaduct. Bring beer
        
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        May 30, 2022 3:17pm
    - oldfella
      
      Raphael, does climbing a tree protect against monkeypox?
      
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      May 30, 2022 10:39am
    - Matt Long
      
      What altitude do mosquitoes fly to?
      
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      May 30, 2022 12:06pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Well, the ones in Alaska are yuge, so they can do what they want. Can get dimp spray and a pencil antidote thing, but bear spray is better…….
        
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        May 30, 2022 3:21pm
    - cmm
      
      Yup, before malaria was linked to mosquitoes it was blamed on bad air – hence the name.
      
      And the way to get away from the bad air was to get above it. Hence climbing a tree could help according to that theory.
      
      In many ways we have equally preposterous theories in place at present.
      
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      May 30, 2022 12:42pm
  - Hebe123
    
    I was at Pak n Save yesterday, watching people while in the long checkout queues.
    
    90% masked incl all asians, and nearly all white faces. Unmasked were a few Maori and Polynesian families – the whole family. They all give you a big smile, it’s like a secret club 🤣.
    
    In contrast at my local super which is mostly white faces it’s only me mask free. Hasn’t changed in the 6 mth since I stopped conforming.
    
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    May 30, 2022 9:43am
    - Thought Criminal
      
      Love your courage
      
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      May 30, 2022 10:31am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Well done. The first few times can feel a bit intimidating, but no longer. I just walk on. Haven’t been challenged to date. If I am I will walk out.
      
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      May 30, 2022 4:26pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Scott, I am going to put that on Facebook and see what the factchecker wanks do. I’ll let you know if I go to jail again!
    
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    May 30, 2022 10:08am
- AC
  
  I am traveling in France and yes hardly a mask to be seen anywhere.
  
  What’s super irrating is we still have to get a supervised RAT test to get back to NZ when there is much more COVID around in NZ per capita.
  
  These guys are always 6 months behind.
  
  And why is Dr Bloomfield in Geneva. . Is he not leaving in a few weeks ?
  
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  May 30, 2022 8:28am
  - Opie
    
    Troughers gonna trough.
    
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    May 30, 2022 8:57am
  - Don Beckett
    
    Davos ??
    
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    May 30, 2022 10:01am
    - krazykiwi
      
      WHO likely. Setting up his next gig. With hapless taxpayers picking up the tab. Again.
      
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      May 30, 2022 10:04am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Bugger that, H1 is there
      
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      May 30, 2022 10:15am
  - Ruawai
    
    If the nervous sheeple knew that their beloved Bloomfield and Ardern are both out of the country at the same time they wouldn’t leave their homes unless triple masked, who will protect us from covid now???
    
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    May 30, 2022 10:08am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Grunt will protect you, but it will cost you.
      
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      May 30, 2022 3:24pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Exactly, Bloomfield should be benched, or is he being ushered into dome rotten job at WHO, it’s funny really also, they tried to say that only Helen Clark and they also tried to rubbish Nikki Kaye who was invited by Clark to speak about women in leadership in government , yet it appears that the worst health minister in our times Little is there as well, god this media is rotten
    
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    May 30, 2022 11:54am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      So who is looking after NZ? Special K??
      
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      May 30, 2022 3:25pm
- David Garrett
  
  With thousands of cases a day now you would think someone in authority would think “Ah…it seems masks don’t work”.
  
  But no doubt the argument is “without masks we’d have twice as many cases”
  
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  May 30, 2022 8:35am
  - Matt Long
    
    I think the argument in the Govt departments is “let’s see just how long we can screw the deplorables over.”
    
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    May 30, 2022 8:43am
  - jonno1
    
    Not to mention “Ah…it seems the vaccine doesn’t work”.
    
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    May 30, 2022 8:48am
  - surfing
    
    I picked up my prescription at the mall the other day, and not that many people were wearing masks.
    
    How can you conclude masks don’t work, based on current infection rates? Most people aren’t even wearing masks. Maybe you could be proving the opposite, that masks do work.
    
    I would agree that the blue surgical masks don’t work, but that is not what you said.
    
    The N95 masks are really effective if you fit them properly and follow the manufacturer guidelines.
    
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    May 30, 2022 9:19am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      No they don’t, they’re as useless as mammaries on a bovine, and almost nobody wears them properly.
      
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      May 30, 2022 4:31pm
      - surfing
        
        “nobody wears them properly”
        
        As I said, “PROPERLY FITTED”. You are a foolish person because you didn’t even read what I wrote.
        https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.chas.1c00016
        
        Of course, you don’t believe in science, because you feelz the truth of things.
        
        Show me your proof that n95 masks are ineffective against covid.
        
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        May 31, 2022 12:24pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    And without any protection (masks, vaxes, wash hands, don’t look at funny people) we would have had 80 thousand deaths! We have been saved by the almighty Jaspinda! Hip hip hooray, hip hip hipocrite
    
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    May 30, 2022 3:29pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      She’s a hero and deserves all the accolades she gets and she should have a statue of her put up in every town in the land. If Colin Meads warrants one, so does Brenda.//
      
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      May 30, 2022 4:34pm
- kowtow
  
  Talking of normal.
  
  How hard is it to get a face to face consultation with a GP here ?
  
  I hear next to impossible.
  
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  May 30, 2022 8:44am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    No face to face? Tell them you are going elsewhere.
    My Doctor wanted me to mask up, him in full ppe gear, and see me in my car. Medical Center got the message real quick. After visiting the same place since 1973 they sort of changed their view.
    Doctor said, don’t worry, it is just the staff being careful.
    
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    May 30, 2022 3:34pm
- Local Miller
  
  I had a great afternoon yesterday walking through Hamilton Gardens with the wife and my botanically minded son. Not one in 20 were wearing masks. It was almost like the world had returned to normal.
  
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  May 30, 2022 8:50am
  - Don Beckett
    
    The “World” has returned to normal.
    It’s that mythical place, Ayo tear a rower that is still in terrorise mode.
    
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    May 30, 2022 10:03am
    - Ruawai
      
      But only in the supermarkets it seems.
      
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      May 30, 2022 10:08am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Super markets are still required to wear masks
        
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        May 30, 2022 11:56am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        The whole of Glenfield Mall, not just supermarkets.
        
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        May 30, 2022 3:38pm
  - Mummy
    
    It’s the opposite here in Wellington. At least, down the Parliament end of town. People everywhere, wall to wall in the cafes for their morning coffees. And I would say most of them (more than half) are wearing masks, even in the rain this morning when it specifically says on the MOH mask website page that you don’t have to wear one in wet conditions. For me, I haven’t worn one for weeks on my hour each way commute but sometimes I am the only one on a crowded train like that. I also walk in and around the supermarket completely maskless and no one says a thing. If more people did this, perhaps some of the borderline sheeple would get the courage to do the same.
    
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    May 30, 2022 11:05am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Exactly. I was at the Wellington protest, went to the Countdown at the train station. Security chap said do you want a mask. I simply said no thanks, smiled and walked on in.
      
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      May 30, 2022 4:37pm
    - birdhaven
      
      Most people in the real World ( Rural NZ) don’t wear face nappies.
      
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      May 30, 2022 7:48pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    No one was ever required to wear one outside
    
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    May 30, 2022 11:56am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Has that Moari carving thing still got a cut off cock? Or did they superglue it back on?
    Pathetic PC nonsense – even before today’s woke shit.
    
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    May 30, 2022 3:36pm
- lastmanstanding
  
  I have been following politics since the late 1960s. IMHO there have been only one Government that made any real progress as regards economic and social matters. That was the 1984/87 Lange Government. The trio of Douglas Prebble and Caygill pulled the country back from the brink and set a path for the country to be the Switzerland of the South Pacific. Alas Lange was influenced and pulled back in the 1987/1990 Government with the result that the reforms stalled.
  Before and since we have suffered from a bunch of timid pollies scared to act and or influenced by various sectors the net result is a country and society that has never reached its full potential and doesnt look like reaching its full potential with the flaccid bunch we have now.
  
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  May 30, 2022 8:57am
  - plc
    
    I’d happily give you a month of upticks for this……and important to realise National will do nothing to address real problems – thanks MMP
    
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    May 30, 2022 9:10am
    - Paulus
      
      National are not in Goverenment, only Labour and the Media Parties.
      
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      May 30, 2022 1:36pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        National are now National Lite. There is an area center left that they are chasing votes in, because —-
        here we go, Labour, Greens and any other deranged Party have gone so FAR left, they are on the edge of the Flat Earth, frothing at the mouth.
        National sees a void center left.
        
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        May 30, 2022 3:47pm
  - gravedodger
    
    “The trio of Douglas Prebble and Caygill pulled the country back from the brink and set a path for the country”
    Note Lastmanstanding that reformist administration was elected entirely under First Past The Post, does that suggest anything?
    
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    May 30, 2022 10:17am
    - Ian Boag
      
      So was Muldoon. And he didn’t even get the most votes. He didn’t even have to have more votes than Labour. Was that a plus too?
      
      I think the country went to MMP because a lot of (enough) people were sick of this. MMP was selected in spite of the fact that there was significant money put into support of FPP (and none for MMP).
      
      Go figure.
      
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      May 30, 2022 10:33am
      - chukar
        
        IB,
        First past the post all politicians were selected by and voted for by the public .
        That is democracy!
        MMP ,half the politicians in power have been selected by often small interest groups .They have never faced the public and have never been voted for by anybody!
        This is not democracy!
        
        You go figure!
        
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        May 30, 2022 11:14am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Gotta agree with you Ian Boag.
        MMP was a good idea, to have more proportional representation. The dealmakers abused this, and they still do today.
        Proportional yes – but as a blackmailer NO.
        Many are guilty, not just one person, or Party.
        
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        May 30, 2022 3:53pm
      - Pineapple Lumps
        
        Chukar is right, the biggest failing of MMP are List MP’s who don’t represent the people, they just represent their ideals.
        
        Most riff-raff wouldn’t get through an electorate vote in FPP.
        
        MMP has provided:
        – the Member for Non- Residents & Non-Citizens and the people of Tijuana.
        – the Member for Refugees, Palestinians and 16 year olds.
        – The Minister for racial division and enrichment of Maori tribal elite Willy Jackson
        – The President of International Socialists Che Ardenista, until gifted Mt Albert from H1.
        – over representation of Maori – +25% of parliament, vs 16% of population
        – Meanwhile the 3-4% of morally conservative NZ have their vote trashed because they don’t meet the 5% threshold
        
        It’s a nice concept is MMP and the Socialists and those happy to trash NZ are loving it.
        
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        May 30, 2022 8:06pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    NZ has 350000 working age beneficiaries (about 12% of votes at last election) and only 45% of Maori kids regularly attending school https://figure.nz/chart/ArLDOAkWunBAKJWj-VmMM6xKpZpT1Hkea
    Doubly important because Maori are now 28.5% of kids being born in NZ. – meaning in 1-2 decades we are going to have a substantial portion of our population functionally unemployable. While also trying to support masses of superannuitants.
    
    Demographics is destiny. Within a decade or two we will have an electorally insurmountable number of voting welfare dependants, that will (no if or buts) guarantee that we spiral down to become the next Venezuela.
    
    Anyone who cares about their families future should be planning to leave NZ ASAP.
    
    And the government has to answer for the immense failure they are overseeing in not ensuring kids get an education – condemning them and NZ to future failure. They should be hammered for it daily in question time and that should be backed up by persistent questioning by media (if they actually care about NZ, and not just left wing tribalism).
    
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    May 30, 2022 11:59am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    They started user pays in health, and that was late 80’s when Helen Vlark was health ministers, I remember effigies of here hanging from bridges in labour stronghold Dunedin
    
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    May 30, 2022 11:59am
- Ehlana
  
  Anyone else notice all the masks being worn at the Harvard speech Jacinda Ardern gave last week?
  
  Me neither.
  
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  May 30, 2022 9:17am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    It’s all about identifying the whos who there.
    Theatre.
    
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    May 30, 2022 10:21am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    Nope, because that would have required me to watch it, and I was all out of sick bags.
    
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    May 30, 2022 10:52am
- Taieri
  
  Dr Ardern no longer wears face mask. But only when performing her scientific duties overseas.
  
  https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/ardern-takes-aim-social-media-companies
  
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  May 30, 2022 9:18am
- Ra Henare
  
  Add that to Demark & Florida amongst other places.
  Watch the “”science mouthers”” flounder
  
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  May 30, 2022 9:33am
- mawm
  
  kk – I see our maskless cultural-appropriating “leader” is meeting with Microsoft today. Collecting new orders from “Dr Evil” Bill Gates?
  
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  May 30, 2022 9:38am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Prob going to ask if he knows of a stronger Vax, because she is losing control…….
    
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    May 30, 2022 10:25am
    - Master Mariner
      
      Or ask for more algorithms as these are not currently working for the Podium of Truth and social Media.
      
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      May 30, 2022 11:42am
- Hebe123
  
  It makes me sad to see the number of elderly people wearing masks while out for a walk. A couple on the beach last week, I was at closest 30 m from them and there was nobody else around. Some walking in my deserted hill suburb yesterday.
  
  She did this – created the fear that has these people doing something that at best is useless. So sad AND angry.
  
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  May 30, 2022 9:39am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Even my taxi drivers are saying pass when I ask if I need a mask, I think it’s legal In a taxi, some just say don’t worry about that dhit, as for cafes and bars, I have just come into one asked if I need a mask, they said no not anymore, and I just refuse to wear one in a pub or bar, it’s ludicrous when 50 people can sit in a bar without a mask and you need to wear one in
  
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  May 30, 2022 11:09am
- Jim
  
  I went shopping today and found myself in a tiny local cafe being expected to wear a face mask whilst buying coffee beans, yet just three paces away a group of 10 OAPs were sitting or even standing at a bar leaner table chatting, laughing and generally enjoying life without the need for a single mask. Good on them I thought, so off came my mask. I’m done with the health science charade, it’s pure BS.
  
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  May 30, 2022 3:04pm
  - Jim
    
    What didn’t help were the staff whose face masks are now predominantly protecting their chins. But more seriously masks are now just another vector for infection with all the cross handling between face mask, food products, cafe tables etc
    
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    May 30, 2022 4:21pm
artemisia

New Zealand container ports are seriously inefficient, according to the World Bank.

Why?

(Just a short para at the below link but there is a click through to the WB report.)

The World Bank has been surveying the efficiency of 370 of the world’s major container ports, and the results are not good for New Zealand. Among others, Tauranga ranks about 325th and Auckland ranks about 350th. Even just among “Oceania”, Auckland is the worst-ranking facility. No New Zealand port looks efficient in this survey, the best being Wellington ranked #151 and still near the bottom half.

http://www.interest.co.nz/business/116124/us-pce-inflation-dips-consumer-spending-stays-strong-toyota-trims-output-again
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May 30, 2022 8:02am
- fightingtemeraire
  
  We have far too many container ports.
  
  We need ONE serviced by feeder ships.
  
  Whangarei is ideal and forget the Manukau
  
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  May 30, 2022 8:43am
- Matt Long
  
  Maybe that helps explain why NZ is one of worst in the world for grocery prices and cost of living.
  
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  May 30, 2022 9:14am
  - kowtow
    
    Anyone else get the uncomfortable feeling that our media , who create so much of the noise around ‘culture’ spend so much time on sports stories as a distraction from how actually very disfunctional so much of new Zealand is , while we slip steadily down so many listings that we were once the top of .
    
    And I’m talking real important stuff ,not sports.
    
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    May 30, 2022 10:24am
    - hullkiwi
      
      Sport is the opiate of the masses.
      
      Although I enjoy watching sport, I don’t live by it, but many do. The ultimate extreme is Europe each Junr/July and January when there is fevered speculation about football player transfers and the like. In this country it is rugby.
      
      All of this serves to distract the sheeple & media from holding politicians, bureaucrats and company executives to account.
      
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      May 30, 2022 3:18pm
- Master Mariner
  
  I have been saying for a long time that at least 2 Major Ports should been assigned as a Strategic Asset and outside of Politcal influence.
  
  This is a Major reason on why Shelves are empty and
  a huge component of inflation and costs.
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/pressure-on-auckland-port-as-more-ships-head-to-northport-and-maersk-dangles-carrot/GQM5C4ZQZTYSGTI7WHONJT4SNQ/
  
  Maersk, Worlds largest shipper basically told Auckland Port to get their act together then we will think about coming back.
  
  All NZ Ports are a mixture of Council and Private ownership with lack luster management, .
  
  The minister of Transport should have commandeered ownership to get certain Ports functioning during the Pandemic.
  
  Get rid of Unionised Labour and Diversity members and get people who know how things need to be done.
  
  I can not emphasis the amount this has cost kiwis in inflation and getting goods to the Market.
  
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  May 30, 2022 9:21am
  - artemisia
    
    Betting China has noticed.
    
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    May 30, 2022 10:49am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    “All NZ Ports are a mixture of Council and Private ownership with lack luster management.”
    
    In fact Port of Tauranga is owned by Port of Tauranga Ltd, an NZX listed company. It is the largest port in NZ both in terms of total cargo volume and container throughput, with almost 1m TEU.
    
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    May 30, 2022 11:01am
    - Master Mariner
      
      https://quaysideholdings.co.nz/
      
      They hold 54% .
      
      Board of Directors and Management Team.
      https://www.port-tauranga.co.nz/about-port-of-tauranga/management-structure/
      https://www.port-tauranga.co.nz/about-port-of-tauranga/management-structure/
      
      Where is the Maritime expertise outside NZ ?
      
      I rest my case.
      
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      May 30, 2022 11:49am
    - Trev
      
      I’m sure the Councils are the majority owner of POT through there nominee companies. POT structure with some private investment and being run like a public company works a lot better than Ports of Auckland and Lyttleton Port with their 100% Council ownership and higher level of council involvement. POA has been diabolical in recent years and Lyttleton Port until fairly recently was bad in many ways.
      
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      May 30, 2022 4:06pm
  - Paulus
    
    Tauranga Ports are not under Government influence -they are a Public Company.
    Whereas Auckland Port is entirely Council owned and they are Labour puppets.
    
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    May 30, 2022 1:39pm
    - Master Mariner
      
      Under regional council control. See above.
      54 % controlled by
      https://quaysideholdings.co.nz/
      
      Quayside is the investment arm of the Bay of Plenty Regional Council. Our role is to deliver sustainable long term returns to our shareholder which in turn provides prosperity to the region.
      
      So again I ask, how is the Tauranga Council performing under new management ?
      
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      May 30, 2022 2:57pm
- Gulag1917
  
  Yokohama is the top port taking just 1.1 minutes on average to load or unload a container.
  
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  May 30, 2022 9:52am
  - Master Mariner
    
    And Auckland Ports are trying to decipher operating manuals on new Chinese cranes.
    
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    May 30, 2022 11:50am
NeverMindTheBollocks

New Morning Report theme tune is a dirge. Apparently it’s from overseas. Shocked that it’s not exclusively compiled on indigenous instruments.
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May 30, 2022 8:05am
- Jimbo666
  
  Ten guitars springs to mind
  
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  May 30, 2022 9:02am
- Ehlana
  
  Overseas? Are we short of musicians in NZ? And in NZ Music Month too!
  
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  May 30, 2022 9:32am
  - david
    
    It might be that there is a container load of conch shells held up at POA. (Sorry, just trying to cover two adjacent subjects).
    
    BTW can our beloved (yech) leader still claim to be “youth adjacent”? Footage from afar shows her to have aged significantly to my untrained eye. Perhaps it is stress but it’s not a pretty sight all the same.
    
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    May 30, 2022 10:45am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Savage
  
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  May 30, 2022 4:37pm
Maggie Pie

What a WOKE, TALENTLESS, PATHETIC MESS!
Nothing more than a ‘diversity hire’…..

A real professional like Kamahl is well out of it.

https://twitter.com/Breakfaston1/status/1530975901738885121
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May 30, 2022 8:08am
- ClanMcleod
  
  The comments were entertaining. 😄
  
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  May 30, 2022 8:15am
  - graham
    
    Yep, over 70 comments and maybe three that were favourable?
    
    Proof that there is no situation which has been so badly mishandled already, that cannot be made even worse by trying to apologise … or explain … or gloss over … actually, what the hell WERE they trying to do there?
    
    What a mess.
    
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    May 30, 2022 9:43am
  - Don Beckett
    
    That was puke inducing. What a bunch of self important self congratulatory wankers. No real self awareness in that mob.
    
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    May 30, 2022 10:08am
- graham
  
  I think your comment last night nails it Maggie.
  
  https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2022/05/general_debate_29_may_2022.html#comment-3185587
  
  Why would you debase and humiliate yourself to THAT degree? Just for a chance to be on TV?
  
  I honestly don’t understand why someone like Jenny-May Clarkson does that. I’m not a fan, but I can’t deny her successful international netball career, followed by her move to sports commentator. And now, the pinnacle of her career … twerking on breakfast television.
  
  And people WATCH this??
  
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  May 30, 2022 8:26am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Here we go graham 😀
    
    Kamahl’s first day on the job welcomed by the crew.
    Probable reason he decided to quit soon after…..watch @ 43 sec mark
    
    https://twitter.com/KamahlOnTV/status/1519107072423473153
    
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    May 30, 2022 8:41am
  - kowtow
    
    I don’t .
    
    And more and more people aren’t.
    
    Vote with your feet folks.
    
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    May 30, 2022 8:46am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  God, that is sickening and depressing.
  I only watch parts because the speaker of the house insists.
  Keep the queen bee happy, and the whole hive is happy – and all that shit.
  
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  May 30, 2022 10:37am
All_on_Red

Governor Newsome infected with Covid the day after meeting Ardern
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1530707045787262977
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May 30, 2022 8:12am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Cindy the triple vaxxed superspreader.
  😂😂😂
  
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  May 30, 2022 8:21am
  - Inandout
    
    CM, then Joe has a meeting with Jacinda tomorrow night. I suspect he will be behind a glass wall like contestants on ‘The Chase’, and when they finish she can say ‘kapow’ instead of shaking hands.
    
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    May 30, 2022 8:37am
    - RightFirstTime
      
      I’m picking Sleepy Joe will last about three minutes in the meeting…..and then fall asleep. If Kamala is there she can keep the conversation going by talking about “the passage of time” which could well send Cindy to sleep.
      
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      May 30, 2022 3:14pm
  - mawm
    
    Newsome allegedly has had 2 boosters. The last one 2 weeks ago – which should have had him in the peak of any immune response now. This always prompts the thought of “what are these leaders being given? Saline?”
    
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    May 30, 2022 9:53am
- krazykiwi
  
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  May 30, 2022 8:22am
- krazykiwi
  
  Newsome was the Vaxx-to-the-max and Climate Change™ true believer who cancelled his trip to the Glasgow climate junket last year just days after his booster jab, citing the need to spend time going trick or treating with his kids at Halloween. He then disappeared from public view only later to be spied on a beach in Cancun close to a world-renowned Stem Cell Therapy treatment centre where Guillane-Barre Syndrome is treated. GBS is a known adverse reaction to the mRNA injectables.
  
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  May 30, 2022 8:26am
  - Ross
    
    In the press conference with Vaxxinder he did not move his right arm at all and when walking his arm appeared tied to his jacket. Symptoms of partial loss of use. Wonder what caused that.
    
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    May 30, 2022 8:31am
    - burt
      
      Safe and effective.
      
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      May 30, 2022 9:10am
      - krazykiwi
        
        That will go down in history as the co-ordinated slogan that killed and maimed millions. What we desperately need is for regulatory agencies that have been captured and controlled by Big Pharma to be burnt to the ground and re-built with a cast-iron public health remit.
        
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        May 30, 2022 9:19am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The evil carrier was not wearing her mask like the NZ sheep do
  
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  May 30, 2022 10:39am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  And another tow of Cindy’s so called diplomats, she is spreading the pox, she will infect Biden when he sniffs her
  
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  May 30, 2022 12:18pm
  - hullkiwi
    
    With what is happening I’m her enterage, what are the chances of Wednesday’s meeting not going ahead?
    
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    May 30, 2022 3:25pm
Maggy Wassilieff

I seem to have missed the fact that the Government withdrew its appeal against the High Court decision that the Police and Defence Force Mandated Vaccinations were unlawful.

https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/05/24/govt-drops-police-and-nzdf-vaccine-mandate-appeal/

Seems the Government wanted to hide information
https://www.bitchute.com/video/x8o3S2Hi1bUR/
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May 30, 2022 8:12am
- krazykiwi
  
  The government is now rattling legal sabers in respect of the High Court decision that resulted from the Grounded Kiwis successful judicial review, causing that privately-funded legal team more work. The judgement was pretty unambiguous.
  
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  May 30, 2022 8:29am
Maggy Wassilieff

I’m not a fan of Victor Billot’s poetry satire, but I think he wrote a winner last week.

“And what mumbleth he?” asketh the Queen.
“He is asking how we avoid crossbow massacres
amongst the peasantry, your Majesty!”
And the Kind Queen smiled magnificently;
and the Great Hall was lit by her glowing radiance,
and she said, “O that is simple!
We just give all the crossbows and nasty loppers
to the Killer Beez and Tribesmen,
who massacreth each other.”

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/an-ode-for-the-red-empress
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May 30, 2022 8:19am
Frank the tank

Day 4 with the Rona.

To date this has been a mild flu and now my blocked nose and cough are disappearing so effectively symptom-less.

In my 40-odd years I have had:
-Swine Flu
-Norovirus
-Camplabacta
-glandular fever
-Bangkok Belly

All of these are measurably worse that Kungflu. I’m sitting here today wondering why we locked down for this. Sure earlier strains might have been worse however this is a mild flu.

As for the ‘deaths’ if this thing kills you then your time on planet earth was well and truely up therefore calling Bullshit on the numbers peddled daily – these are people dying WITH Kungflu not because of it on the main.

Remember folks we fucked our economy and society
Beyond the point of recovery for a mild fucking flu.

New Zimbabwe indeed.
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May 30, 2022 8:22am
- Jimbo666
  
  Frank
  We didn’t screw our economy. The elected labour politicians in particular the PM and DPM did.
  
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  May 30, 2022 9:00am
- Opie
  
  I’ve been more sick from a minor ingrown toenail.
  
  It’s disappointing really that they fucked the world for this.
  
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  May 30, 2022 9:08am
- Phronesis
  
  And the chickens are only just beginning to come home to roost. The fallout from this socially and economically will be massive. The effect on projected future GDP will absolutely dwarf even the most dire predictions that climate change alarmists can come up with. (which is why you never see economic analysis of the effects of climate change, many are net positive.)
  
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  May 30, 2022 10:15am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Take a look at the ages of people dying ‘with’ it.
  The numbers increase as the age increases.
  Over 90 and the number infected increases
  
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  May 30, 2022 10:48am
- Joely Doe
  
  Had Rona last week…
  Mild tickle in throat for first 2 days, Neg RAT test on day 3, Pos RAT test on Day 4 AM.
  Had to leave work (Medical) due to pos test and rearrange entire week.
  Spent the afternoon catching up on Netflix and letters.
  Day 5 / Day 2 (Pos test) went MTB and beach walk.
  Day 6 / Day 3 (Pos test) went MTB and forest walk.
  No one in house is keeping distance (except wife, but almost sure that is her natural preference anyway).
  Day 7 / Day 4 (Pos test) – still testing Pos, can’t go back to work – CHCW can go back to work after 4 days if Neg.
  Day 8 / Day 5 (Pos test) – still testing Pos, can’t go to work, have run out of Netflix to watch, all letters up to date, cleaned house, washed cars, cleaned gutters, mowed lawns, fixed fence, patted cat, checked mail.
  Day 9 / Day 6 (Pos test) – FCUK ME, still testing Pos!! This is stupid, not allowed to work, go out (yeah right). Other staff are now down with C-19 – work is decimated and patients are pissed.
  Day 10 / Day 7 (Pos test) – still testing Pos. Feel fine, have had worse head colds in a normal winter (and worked through all of those).
  
  Anyone who believes the ‘Daily Testing’ numbers, has rocks for brain. I personally know of 17 who have tested Pos and have not recorded results (all in last month). I should have been back at work last week, with standard Infection Control protocols.
  This is a sick joke. It’s almost like those who make up these rules have a bottomless pit of money to pay themselves with…
  
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  May 30, 2022 11:34am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  If you are day 4, you will be fine we’ll before weekend, I only had a funny voice and head ache, it was like I had hay fever, I know some people laid up in bed for 2 days, but by day 4 dramatically improved
  
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  May 30, 2022 12:21pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING

So, it looks like if I had a penis, one extra arm, and a bear sitting on my head, I could be considered….

‘A Woman Of Our Times’

https://twitter.com/XRLlareggub/status/1530587526485921793
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May 30, 2022 8:22am
- Tony Stuart
  
  You’ll have noted, of course Maggie, that the Twitter account putting out that image, as funny as it is, is a parody account. Of course the best parodies are ones that could just about be true!
  
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  May 30, 2022 8:26am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    @myfannyhurts…..
    thx tony, I never would have noticed 😛
    
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    May 30, 2022 8:30am
    - Don Beckett
      
      I wouldn’t worry too much Maggie. After all, what you tell about yourself, you can have a penis any time you want one. 😆 😆
      
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      May 30, 2022 10:19am
      - Biscuit
        
        Reminds me of the story I read about a new baby where the enquirer was seeking to know that all was not well:
        
        Doctor (whispering): The child was born without a penis.
        Enquirer: Oh no…
        Doctor: But she’ll have a nice place to put one in 16 years or so…
        
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        May 30, 2022 1:07pm
- Local Miller
  
  Society is truly stuffed at the moment!
  
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  May 30, 2022 9:18am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Put that Pennis away 😃 you will be degraded as a pale stale male scum like me , Hahahahaha
  
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  May 30, 2022 12:22pm
Tony Stuart

Good to see that National MP Paul Goldsmith has filed a series of written questions to the Prime Minister about perceived or real conflicts of interest regarding Nanaia Mahuta:

Published date: 27 May 2022
16871 (2022). Hon Paul Goldsmith to the Prime Minister (27 May 2022): Does she accept that the appointment of Tipa Mahuta to the position of chair of Te Puna – the Māori Advisory Group to Taumata Arowai may give rise, or has given rise, to a perceived or real conflict of interest due to her relationship to Hon Nanaia Mahuta; if not, why not?
Rt Hon Jacinda Ardern (Prime Minister) replied: Reply due: 07 Jun 2022

https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/order-paper-questions/written-questions/document/WQ_16871_2022/16871-2022-hon-paul-goldsmith-to-the-prime-minister

I expect this issue to ramp up a notch this week, as Parliament resumes after a week’s break. Of course the PM won’t be here to answer aby questions; she meets Joe Biden on Wednesday New Zealand time, and won’t be back in the country until Thursday at the earliest, a day she is normally away from the House.

It’s telling though that Labour MP’s and/or activists haven’t rushed to Mahuta’s defence over the last few days. Normally the wagons are circled whenever a Labour Minister is under the pump, and those asking questions are attacked. There’s no sign of that happening in this case, so far, at least. Perhaps self-survival instincts are kicking in…
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May 30, 2022 8:25am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Tony, I think Clint Smith is attempting to restore Nanaia’s honour.
  
  He’s trying to say National does nepotism too – e.g., Bill English’s brother and Hekia Parata’s sister.
  
  The Mahuta’s are a noble Maori whanau and must not be smeared etc., etc…
  
  It also looks like Clint has declined Sean Plunket’s invitation to appear on The Platform and discuss nepotism.
  
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  May 30, 2022 9:35am
  - Ruawai
    
    Clint Smith surely matches the profile of a “keyboard warrior” Ardern was warning us about!! He should be cancelled.
    
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    May 30, 2022 10:32am
  - oldfella
    
    Where in the world is Nanaia Mahuta at the moment? She sure as hell is not out there in the Pacific – like her Aussie counterpart, Penny Wong – fighting for her country’s security.
    Can Mahuta even spell ‘mahi’? //
    
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    May 30, 2022 12:05pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      She is so nepotising she married her cousie
      
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      May 30, 2022 5:25pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Did he ask about her Cousband?
  
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  May 30, 2022 12:24pm
Maggy Wassilieff

In recognition of Samoan Language week:

欢迎来到萨摩亚

Afio mai i Samoa
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May 30, 2022 8:27am
- cmm
  
  Or, in the original Samoan script:
  
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  May 30, 2022 12:50pm
Frank the tank

Could our Glorious Leader’s US trip be more woke? She has effectively visited all the woke locations in the US and the majority of the woke politicians. It has been an extremely partisan visit when comparing recent visits by Peters and Key right at a time where the other side is odds on to re-take legislative power.

What tangible outcome has she achieved on this trip. Of course the feckless are hailing this as a roaring success – How?

I see the fisherman is there again – who is taking care of little Te Awamutu Ardern? At home with the nanny again while your parents have another pre-honeymoon holiday then?
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May 30, 2022 8:31am
- DeepBlue
  
  So Ardern and Gayford can travel for 2 weeks by themselves, but Ardern can’t properly self isolate in her household to avoid Covid.
  
  She has now been away from real New Zealanders for nearly 2 months.
  
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  May 30, 2022 9:30am
  - Paulus
    
    I thought I read that she has five more overseas trips this year !
    
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    May 30, 2022 1:42pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Anything but do her bloody job
      
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      May 30, 2022 5:27pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    She hasn’t made a proper walkabout in NZ for well over 1 year.
    
    I can’t see that she will be doing much campaigning amongst the lonely old underpant-clad and filthy folk next year.
    
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    May 30, 2022 2:09pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Yes, and what’s the bet next week she is too tired to appear in parliament like she was after Japan
    
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    May 30, 2022 5:27pm
- Ruawai
  
  All marketing for our dear leader and capturing video to use for the campaign.
  
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  May 30, 2022 10:33am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  She has meet all the rotten hypocrites we have been told about, she meet one Republican, senator, but he is the wokest idiot they have
  
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  May 30, 2022 12:25pm
Frank the tank

What other first world city closes their only main thoroughfare through the city when there is some wind.
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May 30, 2022 8:33am
ClanMcleod

A wonderful article about the vicious smear campaign that has been going on for the last 2 years against anyone daring to point out the lies and distortions of Ardern and her “experts”.
These people are all heroes every last one.

https://dailytelegraph.co.nz/news/a-matter-of-honour/
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May 30, 2022 8:36am
- David Garrett
  
  Clan: I read that until I got to Liz Gunn…
  
  She’s a nut mate, who just makes stuff up. Remember the two kids who supposedly collapsed and died after getting the jab? If you’d got any evidence that that actually happened, please do post a link.
  
  Oh, and although I have had three jabs, I certainly won’t be getting any more…lots of disturbing evidence about it now.
  
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  May 30, 2022 8:57am
  - Opie
    
    I just hope the human body is powerful enough to repair the damage done by these trial medications.
    
    Time will tell I guess.
    
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    May 30, 2022 9:11am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    We’re all entitled to our opinion DG. I don’t claim to know much about that particular lady except she opposed all aspects of the covid circus and like the others was slandered and smeared for her efforts.
    I don’t know about the case you are referring to re the kids, I do know that many, many hundreds of fit and healthy young sports people have died “suddenly” in the last year or so. The numbers are 20 times the rate compared to the last 20 years. “died suddenly” has reached plague proportions in many areas of society, of course, nothing to do with the jabs. //
    
    If you know details about the deaths she referred to I’d be keen to know more.
    
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    May 30, 2022 9:17am
    - David Garrett
      
      Clan: What a reasoned response! (No sarc.)
      
      All I know is that Gunn claimed two young kids collapsed and died shortly after being jabbed at a pharmacy somewhere in NZ. I have read in several places – not all MSM – that this simply didn’t happen; in other words she made it up.
      
      I would be very pleased to see any evidence one way or t’other.
      
      And to make my own position clear: 1) I don’t think what we have had stuck in our arms is a vaccine in the usual sense, but rather a treatment, and a not very effective one; 2) The “vaccine” clearly didn’t have anything like the degree of testing which would normally occur before it was used on humans; 3) There have been many verified cases of severe reaction, and even deaths, only some of which are being admitted by the establishment; 4) There is a great deal of spin both by the gummint and those on the other side such that it is very difficult to know the truth.
      
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      May 30, 2022 9:26am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        DG – the fact you now know the vaccines were never properly tested, don’t work, are not “safe and effective”, and actually hurt and kill people means you at least understand which side’s narrative is complete lies. The other pov may have been embellished at times, but the vast majority of what all of the people named in that article stated has turned out to be truthful and honest.
        
        As for the Gunn story, I’ve been digging around and can’t find anything were she claimed kids died? I found a story that states she claimed 5 kids collapsed at a vax centre so is this what you were referring to? If it is, there certainly seems to be some disparity from the mainstream media claims and what Gunn said re the incident.
        Here are 2 articles, one from a mainstream media “fact checker”, the other from an independent media outlet. On the basis of what I read and watched I would say Gunn’s version is more plausible than the mainstream media version. She had heard that kids had collapsed and asked TV One reporters why they weren’t checking the story out. It sounds like the story may have been based on witnesses who saw one child collapse, but that was before the jab and not related to it. Easy to see how that could be misconstrued.
        
        Anyway, I’ll give you the links to both versions of the event and you can make your own mind up about what is plausible.
        I will say this, in the last year when I’ve come across and article that has been “fact checked” I generally find that the article was actually factually correct and the “fact checker” has done some serious mental gymnastics in their attempt to “debunk” the “misinformation”.
        Also the whole idea of jabbing children is not only idiotic, it is dangerous. The risks to children from covid are so minute, anyone doing so is guilty of child abuse and I don’t say that lightly. Anyone doing so to protect themselves or any other adult is even more guilty. Leave the bloody kids alone. Any adult who was conned into this is entitled to be very, very angry.
        
        https://thespinoff.co.nz/irl/25-01-2022/no-five-kids-didnt-collapse-at-a-vaccination-site-so-who-said-they-did
        
        https://thebuzz.nz/news-reporter-walks-away-as-liz-gunn-asks-why-they-wont-report-on-kids-collapsing-from-covid-shots/
        
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        May 30, 2022 10:17am
  - Sacha
    
    You should have finished the article –
    
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    May 30, 2022 9:28am
  - piglady
    
    I know of one of those young woman.
    As far as I’m aware there is no link that can be posted to support that. But that should not come as a surprise should it?
    
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    May 30, 2022 9:46am
  - Hebe123
    
    There was plenty of evidence a year ago DG, it was just that the actual experts positing the evidence were getting smashed and you were listening to the single source of truth. You actually had to be a bit analytical. I’d have thought better of you.
    
    Saw some data yesterday about cases of myocarditis in the US under 20s. 2019 and 2020 had 4 cases each. 2021 had well over 2000 cases. The safety signals have been around since before our rollout got into high gear.
    
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    May 30, 2022 9:54am
    - Phronesis
      
      The myocarditis risk from the vaccine was recognised quite early on. The vaccine was never regarded as safe in the sense that it would not harm anyone. It was accepted that some would be harmed, potentially even die, but the justification was that more would be harmed by not taking the vaccine. This is where the inflated projections for how many would die without the vaccine and how effective the vaccine would be came into play. We sacrificed a few to the vaccine with the intention that overall less would die or be harmed. This is uncontroversial and is essentially the reasoning behind any mass vaccination, although much better data (and safety) is always required than was available with covid vaccines. There was never any benefit of vaccination to those without co-morbidities aged under 50. They were more likely to be harmed by the vaccine than benefit from it.
      
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      May 30, 2022 10:37am
      - Jim
        
        Yep the clinical/medical decision to receive any medical intervention has always needed to consider the risk vs. benefit of the patient.
        Our NZ authorities including the medical profession totally disregarded their principal responsibilities to safeguard the patient. This was done in the expectation that the vaccine would confer some enduring immunity.
        Well not so. Amongst many, even our ‘Jab to the Max PM’ has openly demonstrated that the Pfizer vaccine does not offer any real world immunity.
        Those parroted big pharma efficacy claims are now known to be false, and so equally why should we take confidence in big pharma claims of vaccine safety?
        
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        May 30, 2022 4:38pm
      - Pineapple Lumps
        
        Why have they just started targeted advertising for boosters for 17-18 year olds?
        
        It’s beyond bonkers, it’s criminal!!!
        
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        May 30, 2022 9:30pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    DG – I’m shocked. Surely you implicitly trust the “single source of truth”? She told us they are “safe and effective”. //
    
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    May 30, 2022 9:58am
  - stewmar
    
    I certainly won’t be getting any more…lots of disturbing evidence about it now.
    
    Hi David, I want to learn more about this evidence, please suggest where I should look. Thanks (serious question)
    
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    May 30, 2022 10:13am
    - Don Beckett
      
      Never had one. The information on the ‘gene therapy’ was coming out fairly strong before the ‘gene therapy’ arrived here. I feel sorry for my wife & most of my family who succumbed to the propaganda – some wilfully, some under coercion to save their job.
      This has been a huge sad affair, the effects of which are yet to fully appear.
      
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      May 30, 2022 10:40am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  I was warned by FB in the weekend for saying I happily agree with someone above, it was not even disagreement with Ardern , funny though, it happened the very day the rotten dictator Ardern tried to shackle social media
  
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  May 30, 2022 12:28pm
Jade Warrior

Oh wow everyone – the “Stuff” website has a new look and a new logo – just launched today! Let’s rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic, shall we?

How can their content officer Joanna Norris keep a straight face when she asserts that Stuff are “a nationwide media company that’s independently owned, for a nation of independent thinkers” (stop laughing!).

Norris notes that Stuff receives funding from “partners” and “advertisers” but of course there’s no mention of the PIJF and the damage it has done to the quality of investigative journalism in New Zealand.

Ms Norris – ever stopped to consider that taking money under the PIJF might actually be undermining the independence of your media company? I think there might be something in that, don’t you?
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May 30, 2022 8:52am
Maggie Pie

This might be interesting (?)

My partner was saying there’s a rumor going round the Viaduct, that a Labor supporting CEO has told people he’s been asked to contact Clint Smith’s company with his donation, so that instead of donating directly to the Party, this is a way of financing back-door spin and PM campaigns.

Apparently, Sean Plunket has been trying to get Clint Smith on his show to discuss various matters….without success.

https://twitter.com/SeanPlunket/status/1530708734393319424
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May 30, 2022 9:08am
- burt
  
  Maggie
  
  That is an allegation of money laundering. If it wasn’t against the Labour Party people might actually take it seriously.
  
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  May 30, 2022 9:12am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Take it to the police, they have been hiding donations somewhere for years, they will be running things out of his company, I reckon they should be forced to give receipts of all advertising
  
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  May 30, 2022 12:30pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

I missed a post yesterday about Countdown not providing samples (a sip if drink or a cube of salmon say) Fucking Worksafe! These bastards are in the business of putting businesses out of business.
Countdown prob not, but Worksafe interfering with their “policies” can easily send a small manufacturing company to the wall. Compliance costs are rediculous.
At the end, it boils down to one thing, and it goes right to the fucking top:
CONTROL BY A FUCKING TYRANT. Same as other socialist Countries went.
Rant over.
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May 30, 2022 9:23am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Here is an example. Small business, cut the steel and weld it. Workshop had to have 8 fire extinguishers (steel must catch fire…) Say a small rag catches fire, you do not want an idiot blowing it all over the workshop with an extinguisher setting other things on fire. Put a plywood offcut over it – rag on fire goes out. How simple is that rather than complying with fucking Worksafe?
  
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  May 30, 2022 9:28am
  - Ehlana
    
    I was solemnly given instructions by a supplier once that their product needed to be stored below 1600 Centigrade.
    
    I wondered if it had ever occurred to them that long before the temperature reached 1600C, their product melting would no longer be my problem.
    
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    May 30, 2022 9:46am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Steel is …..
      
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      May 30, 2022 5:21pm
  - GJM
    
    This is also contrary to teh Building Code. We got rid of fire exiguishers and hose reels years ago in buildings as a mandatory requirement, since it is much better to have peopel outside and not playing firemen with a glorified garden hose.
    This is nto to say that having fire extinguishers is a bad idea – far from it. If you can’t deal with it with a 2.5 or 4kg exthinguisher, it is time to be somewhere else.
    To use an extinguisher properly requires training, as you only get a few seconds of squirt. Use the wrong one such as a water extinguisher or hose on an electrical or fat fire, and things get exciting.
    How come an organisation which is supposed to be about workplace safety requires them, yet another government department, responsible for fire safty doesn’t neeed them.
    
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    May 30, 2022 5:09pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Electricity is unforgiving. Had a few belts before, last was about 6 weeks ago. Taking out 3 phase wiring live. Inadvertantly touched a live fuseholder. Threw me back 1 meter, the screwdriver went about 6 meters. That is a warning. Electricity is telling me ‘if you are stupid enough to do that again, I will fucking kill you’ Rest of the job the fuseboard was isolated
      
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      May 31, 2022 9:11am
ClanMcleod

Great video. What Harvard thinks of Ardern vs what most NZers think of Cindy.

https://youtu.be/LmMgyeAZmMQ
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May 30, 2022 9:28am
- Master Mariner
  
  Those keyboard warriors and source of Mis information.
  How dare they ? //
  
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  May 30, 2022 11:04am
MCōs

We grizzle and moan about 501s deported from Australia.
There’s a guy who spent five years in prison in Australia for trying to import heroin and subsequently deported.
He’s now in the Thai parliament head of one of the parties previously in coalition with the government.
They have broken away and are looking to form a new partnership with some other parties.
There is a chance he’ll become PM.
Nek minnit.
Another coup.
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May 30, 2022 9:40am
- MCōs
  
  Here’s an explanation if you can figure it out
  https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news-foreigners/2022/05/29/fireworks-as-thamanat-poised-to-topple-pm/
  
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  May 30, 2022 9:50am
Maggie Pie

We watched the first episode of ‘Master Chef NZ’ last night.
Back on screen after a 7 year absence.
Thort it was pretty average TBH. The judges all came across like a bunch of copycat tryhards compared to their Ozzy counterparts.

I’ve seen a few negative reviews doing the rounds this morning…..although none have been game enough to single out Nadia for criticism.

LOL!!
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May 30, 2022 9:41am
- MCōs
  
  Can’t stand those competitive Australian cooking shows.
  
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  May 30, 2022 9:52am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Funnily enuff was thinking of you last nite Cossie.
    We had Thai Takeaways. Mixed Appetisers, Red Duck Curry & Chips.
    
    Do they have a ‘Master Chef Thailand’?
    
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    May 30, 2022 10:01am
    - MCōs
      
      We’re a bit out of touch with Thai reality TV, but I did notice they tended to come up with the likes of Thailand’s Got Talent, The Voice.
      When I was working in Jakarta they had Indonesia’s Got Talent.
      Just outside Timaru a cafe we went to was advertising for contestants for Pleasant Point’s Got Talent.
      
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      May 30, 2022 3:51pm
    - Ra Henare
      
      You may be interested that Cambodia had a master chef run by an American. He had run Master Chef in Indonesia before that.
      
      He definitely confirmed that its all about entertainment and only slightly about cooking.
      
      He said associate producers spent a lot of time generating ideas for conflict and checking contestants backgrounds, liks dislike etc etc. So they could match opposites to generate a spark
      
      etc etc etc
      
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      May 30, 2022 4:51pm
- David Garrett
  
  Cooking shows and house renovation stories…Two of many good reasons not to bother watching broadcast TV.
  
  I recently bought the entire series of “The Fugitive” on dvd…so many good shows back in the day..”The Beverley Hillbillies” has a whole different level of humour that we wouldn’t have “got” when we watched it as kids
  
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  May 30, 2022 9:55am
- Littletramp
  
  No wonder the media came down so hard on the guy criticizing Nadia Lim recently – she was about to star in their latest TV reality show.
  I guess she spends so much with media advertising and promoting herself, they have to protect her.
  
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  May 30, 2022 10:52am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

For some there is a problem pasting a webpage link into an email. You do not get the whole link, just the title. Seems it is a Microsoft Edge update that does this.
Open a page, click the 3 dots in the right top corner. Go down to settings and click. A new dropdown menu on the left, go down to share, copy, and paste.
Change from link to plain text. Tadaa!! It all works as it should.
I do not know about cellphones.
https://www.theverge.com/21591476/edge-chromium-browser-copy-and-paste-url-hyperlink-default-change-how-to
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May 30, 2022 10:05am
- Local Miller
  
  Heavens, who today uses Microsoft Edge except where there’s absolutely no other option? Chrome or DuckDuckGo or FireFox.
  
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  May 30, 2022 12:06pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    It came with the W10 upgrade and I never bothered to do anything else. DDGo is my search engine. Firefox is an alternative, has a toll to record videos.
    Google is there but it is biased shit.
    Adblock Plus of course
    
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    May 30, 2022 1:40pm
    - Loddenthinks
      
      Heavens, who today is still using Windows 10? I thought everyone upgraded to W11 last year.
      
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      May 30, 2022 2:49pm
      - Taieri
        
        Still using Win7 and very happy with it.
        
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        May 30, 2022 3:25pm
  - Ra Henare
    
    Brave is an excellent browser- No adverts by default
    
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    May 30, 2022 4:53pm
Maggie Pie

What a wet shitty day! I wont be going outside 🙁
Just arranged an Uber to collect a box of goodies from the local Deli that I ordered. That’s lunch taken care of anyway.

If you’ve got 5 mins spare have a read of this….
an ‘Open Letter’ to Cindy from Dr Muriel Newman

https://twitter.com/CatEllen2/status/1530795773272596480
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May 30, 2022 10:20am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Yesterday was crap up here. Today looks better. Leave Jacinda rushing around the US infecting people. Can we cancel her return ticket?
  
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  May 30, 2022 11:49am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    She has already successfully guaranteed another week away from parliament, 8the week coming up she has been there 2 days, what’s the bet she spends next week hiding again like when she went to Japan
    
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    May 30, 2022 12:32pm
Ehlana

From politik:
Tangata whenua exercising their customary right should be exempt from a vehicle ban on Marlborough’s east coast, a top of the south iwi says.

Continue reading at https://www.politik.co.nz/iwi-want-exclusion-from-beach-by-law/ | Politik

What’s the name of that principle of Maoridom that has to do with protecting the environment again?
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May 30, 2022 10:30am
- James Stephenson
  
  Haveyourcakeandeatitanga?
  
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  May 30, 2022 11:00am
- David Garrett
  
  Ehlana: He might deny it now (I don’t know) but Sir Tipene O’Reagan once said “If the Maori had the bulldozer there would be no bush left.”
  
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  May 30, 2022 11:26am
  - Paulus
    
    O’Reagan was called Steve at Uni.
    
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    May 30, 2022 1:45pm
- Suze Wainwright
  
  I just don’t get it – why can’t this iwi access and activate their customary fishing rights using the means that were available to them prior to colonization?
  
  Surely they would be much happier and at peace with their spirituality…
  
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  May 30, 2022 11:51am
- greybeard
  
  Use of wheeled vehicles by maori is cultural and scientific appropriation.
  
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  May 30, 2022 12:48pm
Yabster

Anyone know who got an invite from NZ to Davos this year?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KknfRwyckpM
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May 30, 2022 10:38am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I don’t think anyone from the NZ Govt got an invite.
  
  Helen Clark turned up in her capacity as a WHO (Switzerland) representative.
  
  Jackson Rowland is there as a Community Champion, Auckland Hub
  
  https://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_AM22_Official_List_of_Participants.pdf
  
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  May 30, 2022 5:43pm
Rusty

Isn’t it an irony that of may 2022 over 1000 Kiwis have died of or with covid and with the exception of the grieving families most Kiwis are not concerned by it anymore?

Even the media are not having it as headline news anymore and our PM no longer gives special condolence speeches for the losses.

You wonder what all these lock downs and restrictions ever achieved in the first place other than causing pain and misery to many Nzers.
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May 30, 2022 10:45am
Scooter

So the guy accused of murdering the 22yr old old in Mt Albert is too unwell to appear in court and being treated at the Mason clinic. How long before we know if he already was there or were there warning signs before?
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May 30, 2022 11:01am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I suspect that he was known to the authorities…
  that’s why his name was released along with the information that he was wanted for the murder.
  https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/05/27/man-wanted-for-murder-after-brutal-mt-albert-knife-attack/
  
  The cops would have been pretty sure that no way was he in any state to be attending court.
  
  The chap has gone from being a very dangerous man who should not be approached to a very sick man in just a matter of days.
  
  Reading between the lines… young man in a severe psychotic/schizophrenic/manic state.
  
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  May 30, 2022 4:34pm
Inandout

Am I the only one who regularly sits for hours in moderation?
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May 30, 2022 11:07am
kevn

Breaking news… Stuff re-invents itself, with a new…. logo.
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May 30, 2022 11:10am
Jack5

Has Ardern bought off the Listener as well as daily newspapers?

I ask because the Herald today reprints an article from the Listener.

In a time warp, Lenin and Stalin would have learned subtlety in news-media control from Ardern.
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May 30, 2022 11:19am
Jack5

Live-animal exporters in Australasia are up against the internet.

For example, this depiction of slaughter in an Indonesian meat facility:

https://youtu.be/vc0nmk0fnY4
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May 30, 2022 11:32am
- Jack5
  
  Standards of animal care and “sport”, reflected internationally on the internet, are a reminder of that multiculturism is a bullshit ideology.
  
  For example:
  
  https://youtu.be/u7KQqhawNjo
  
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  May 30, 2022 11:52am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

From my Facebook Memories. Stay out of the doghouse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtKQbM9laC8
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May 30, 2022 11:43am
David Garrett

There will be no Royal Commission – and Vance knows that. Why on earth would the exposes themselves to a finding that they could have done better – or worse, that they made some big mistakes?

As someone upthread has said, she’s pissed off with Labour in general and/or Ardern personally. Simple as that.
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May 30, 2022 11:46am
oldfella

Some US political humour from the last week. Maybe Covid Cindy will get mocked in the next compilation?
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/05/the-week-in-pictures-colliding-narrative-edition-2.php
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May 30, 2022 11:52am
Stellaboxer

I’ve always been prone to nostalgia which is just as well as we enter winter and find nurses joined by firefighters in endorsing strike action. It’s just like seventies England. Looking forward to 3 day weeks and power cuts now. Remember be kind and stay safe!
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May 30, 2022 12:03pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING

The CCP has just ordered it’s people to stop travelling abroad.

What are the likely implications of this for NZ?

https://twitter.com/opinion/status/1531062057914843136
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May 30, 2022 12:04pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Presage to some planned Chinese atrocity? Or just trying to copy the oh-so-successful Ming Dynasty Edict of Haijin in 1434 that closed China off from the rest of the world and led to their decline and impoverishment (one of biggest mistakes in history), modern analogues being Iron curtain and North Korea.
  
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  May 30, 2022 2:16pm
Nickc2

Samoa signs a bilateral cooperation agreement with China and backs China on Taiwan. Scary stuff.
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2022/05/samoa-signs-bilateral-cooperation-agreement-with-china-backs-china-on-taiwan.html
As usual, nothing from Cindy or her Foreign Minister Mahuta. Asleep at the wheel?
Oh, no, they’re both biding their time to see which way the majority of Pacific Islands go and then sign NZ up to the deal with China IMO.
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May 30, 2022 12:04pm
Maggie Pie

And I see it’s POLL day for TV1.

No wonder the Horrid & $tuffed have been tripping over each other with their vomit-inducing headlines.

https://twitter.com/MutchJessica/status/1531062869546385409
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May 30, 2022 12:32pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  No need for vomit inducing, poll would have finished mid last week, Curia must be due too
  
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  May 30, 2022 12:34pm
- Suze Wainwright
  
  MP – the comments are interesting. Some lefties genuinely believe the msm is out to get them
  
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  May 30, 2022 3:25pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

https://babylonbee.com/news/lifeguard-refuses-to-jump-in-and-save-drowning-child-as-the-water-is-6-feet-deep-and-he-would-be-risking-his-life
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May 30, 2022 12:41pm
oldfella

I see stuffed has rebranded. In their own words… Stuff’s new look represents Aotearoa, transparency, and two sides to every story.
Two side to every story? So not so much a simple rebrand, but a return to fair and balanced j0urnalism in this country?
Yeah, right.
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May 30, 2022 12:49pm
- graham
  
  Bloody hell, they’re really full of their own self-importance, aren’t they?
  
  New look = a new logo, I presume. And this now somehow “represents Aotearoa (note: they mean New Zealand), transparency, and two sides to every story” in a way that the old one didn’t?
  
  What a bunch of tossers.
  
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  May 30, 2022 2:56pm
- Prince
  
  So when do we get the ‘two sided’ story in their squad of Cartoonists
  
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  May 30, 2022 5:54pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Dear Jaspinda, It’s only a lie if it’s true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaDs2TpUgNo
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May 30, 2022 1:18pm
Maggie Pie

Well I WAS going to call and complain about the length-of-time it took the Uber Driver to get here with my lunch….until I read this 🙁

WARNING GRAPHIC:
‘Putin has been accused of inflicting ‘unspeakable suffering’ on Ukrainians in the east……reports compiled from interviews with Mariupol Steelworks prisoners, show they are being tortured with ‘special cruelty’ involving pliers, electrocution and strangulation, after being captured by Russian forces’.

https://mol.im/a/10866563
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May 30, 2022 1:41pm
graham

Can’t believe TVNZ haven’t turned off the comments yet! WHAT A MESS!!

https://twitter.com/Breakfaston1/status/1530975901738885121

Maggie Pie posted about the Breakfast On One “message” this morning. There are now around 200 comments on the tweet, and maybe 5 of them say anything positive, if that. The rest are pretty funny (unless you happen to work for TVNZ, in which case … oh dear).

The words “cringe” and “woke” seem to feature particularly highly …
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May 30, 2022 2:24pm
- Suze Wainwright
  
  I think the CEO has come out to say how hard it’s all been, or something like that…
  
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  May 30, 2022 3:23pm
mikenmildagain

Just for something a little different:
Eighty years ago today, the 75 (NZ) Squadron took part in the RAF’s first ‘1,000 bomber’ raid, on Cologne, Germany.
Directed against overwhelmingly civilian targets, the raid was not markedly more successful in military terms than the notoriously ineffective early bombings of Germany in 1941, but did manage to kill 500 Germans and destroy 3,000 buildings, for the loss of 50 aircraft and about 40 crews.
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May 30, 2022 2:42pm
- mandk
  
  Yes, it was unfortunate.
  
  But perhaps you could provide some context by giving us a bit of detail about the Blitzkreig. You know, the 8 month campaign by the Luftwaffe in 1940-1941 that killed approx. 40,000 British civilians.
  
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  May 30, 2022 3:12pm
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    It wasn’t unfortunate. It was just one of hundreds of attacks on Cologne with the object of disrupting war industries and creating homelessness for Hitler to have to deal with. And the large number of simultaneous attackers was to reduce casualty percentages by overwhelming defenders compared with multiple attacks by smaller forces.
    
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    May 30, 2022 4:24pm
    - mandk
      
      Non-combatants getting killed is always unfortunate, even if it is intended to minimise deaths in the longer run.
      
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      May 30, 2022 4:33pm
    - Mike
      
      British industry, military power and morale was relatively unscathed by the Blitz. This lesson did not stop the bombing advocates from believing their aerial offensive against Germany would win the war.
      I think Curtis Le May, for one, acknowledged tat the bombing attacks were not on military targets, and that he would have expected to be treated as a war crimunal has the allies lost the war.
      
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      May 30, 2022 5:20pm
      - Alan Wilkinson
        
        It did win the war. The Germans were out-manufactured.
        
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        May 30, 2022 9:30pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Description is in the link. A sneaky leftist diversion, they are famous for it.
https://rumble.com/v16dsyl-will-johnson-bidens-new-truth-board-will-fight-the-truth-on-social-media.html?mref=22lbp&mrefc=2
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May 30, 2022 2:48pm
Maggy Wassilieff

BBC exposes the Truth behind Ardern’s 5 Years of neglect.

New Zealand’s capital, Wellington, has been ranked one of the least affordable cities in the world for buying a property. The picture is also grim for renters, with a 12% rise in prices in the past year…

“You can’t make a living in New Zealand. There is no living. You just go backwards. You don’t get a choice if you want live, you have to move, or New Zealand has to change. I want a future for my children and there is none in New Zealand,”

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-61584608
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May 30, 2022 2:56pm
- Suze Wainwright
  
  I suppose you think fixing 9 long years of neglect is easy…
  
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  May 30, 2022 3:21pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    If Labour really believed ‘9 years of neglect’ then I guess they would have started on improving things in the nearly five years they have had – but can you think of a single KPI that has been improved since Labour came to power? (other than increases in money to Labours mates in media, consulting gigs and Maori aristocracy, none of which actually helps NZers)
    
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    May 30, 2022 5:27pm
krazykiwi

Had to happen. Testing required, even after you’re dead

Authorities in China’s southern city of Shenzhen have drawn online derision over rules requiring Covid-19 tests for the deceased.

This came after a web user posted a screenshot of the “smart funeral” page in a Shenzhen Bureau of Civil Affairs app.
The page said applicants for cremation services were “required to provide proof of nucleic acid testing of the deceased, in addition to the death certificate and the notice of transporting of remains, if the deceased is from closed-off management areas, restrictive control areas and prevention areas”, referring to areas that have reported Covid-19 cases or places close by.
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May 30, 2022 3:23pm
- cmm
  
  Why derision? That testing for the deceased happens in the West too. Maybe even in NZ.
  
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  May 30, 2022 3:41pm
  - mandk
    
    Yes, that dude who got shot up in his driveway a while back was tested post-mortem and was found to have been COVID positive.
    
    The ludicrous thing is that he was counted as a COVID death.
    
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    May 30, 2022 4:37pm
kevn

Dr David Clark (labour) is waving a big stick at supermarkets. Prices increases guaranteed as they contemplate fleeing NZ (labour clown circus).
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May 30, 2022 3:40pm
- kowtow
  
  They should reply :
  
  On yer bike.
  
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  May 30, 2022 4:01pm
- [email protected]
  
  I’ll believe it when I see it.
  
  Very difficult to believe that prices have only gone up by 5.7%. Went with the wife to the grocery store last week and was very surprised at the huge increases for many items.
  
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  May 30, 2022 6:15pm
surfing

Mahuta is acting like a baby…

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/nanaia-mahuta-calls-out-keyboard-warrior-after-n-word-slur/QZVPP5MEJG5EFC6DK4ALQLWRMQ/

There are literally thousands of clowns, many anonymous, who will use racist language against her. It is the nature of the job and she is paid handsomely. She needs to stop whining about it.

This is what I find interesting though…
“Anti-Māori abuse is being copped by many members of Parliament. It has become so widespread that even non-Māori MPs using Te Reo Māori cops criticism.”

Whereas I’ve seen maori on stuff making false claims that NZ is more racially harmonious than ever. Maori handouts are fueling great resentment. And, now they are coming for our drinking water too.
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May 30, 2022 4:54pm
Jack5

Communal land ownership continues to hold back Maori develop, a Red Radio article shows – but does not tell.

Borrowed finance builds homes, enterprises, industries. It always needs security – something that can be grabbed if the borrowers can’t meet repayments.

NZ came up with a part-solution for Maori that allows lending on the security of movable housing.

Someone, described at Red Radio as a “long form journalist” (hopefully, not meaning “prolix”), is described in the run-in to the article as finding out “how red tape and barriers at the bank” are stopping Maori building “papakāinga” (homes).

The writer quotes someone complains of double standards “when it comes to what is available to owners of Maori land compared to general title land.”

Another double standard might be the 2021 Budget providing $750 million over four years for Maori housing and infrastructure, plus $350 million from the $3.8 billion Housing Acceleration Fund.

Everywhere, borrowers accept they provide security for loans. In many Third World countries, development has been held back by communal land ownership, or lack of cadastral systems allowing land to be used for security.

Communal land ownership is a problem for Maori housing, and movable buildings provide a way around this. Borrowers won’t get the same choice of building style or size, and many lenders won’t be interested in the extra work of such loans.

Red Radio, soon, with State TV, will be part of a powerful merged Ardernist media provider. If it is going to campaign for security-free lending for Maori, this needs to be spelled out to voters in time for the election in 18 months.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/468122/the-land-laid-bare-why-maori-can-t-build-on-their-whenua
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May 30, 2022 5:29pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING

Chynaa’s Ambassador to Fiji confirms the agreement “has been shelved for now” due to the concerns expressed by other Pacific Nations.
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May 30, 2022 5:49pm
The Boss

1 News poll is disappointing But the good news is NZF is on 1%. No wonder Winston has many excuses not to stand in Tauranga
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May 30, 2022 6:47pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Latest TV One News poll shows National ahead and holding steady on 39%.

Labour continues to drop – down to 35 %.

But how does Jessica Mutch-McKay characterise National’s result?…. She asks Luxon how he feels about their stagnating result!!!!

https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/05/30/poll-national-still-on-top-labour-dips-again/

TVNZ | 1 NEWS – Your Daily Trusted News Source

What a FUCKING joke
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May 30, 2022 6:48pm
- rockape
  
  His answer should of been that he is feeling better than the leader of Labou!
  
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  May 30, 2022 7:00pm
  - septic skeptic
    
    I assume he said they were predicting a post-budget bounce for Labour and are therefore ABSOLUTELY STOKED to have increased their lead. Is that right?
    
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    May 30, 2022 8:14pm
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    Or just: I hope it is upsetting you.
    
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    May 30, 2022 9:26pm
- Hugh Jarse
  
  And the media continue to not disappoint.
  
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  May 30, 2022 9:13pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  That’s an interesting spin on National being four points ahead of Labour there Jessica, so you’ve decided to team up with your husband to work as Jacinda’s bodyguard as well then?
  
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  May 30, 2022 9:18pm
Maggie Pie

So, the ‘accused’ murderer (who-can’t-be-named) of Tom Coombs in Mt Roskill last week, was ‘too ill’ to appear in court….and has been remanded to Auckland’s Mason Clinic.
The same secure psychiatric facility that houses the killer of beautiful mother of two Jo Pert…..but who was found ‘not-guilt’y by reason of insanity. Tevita Filo, was sane enough to drive from Mt Roskill to Remuera on the morning of 7 January 2016, and follow Jo on her morning run before stabbing her to death.

Mr Filo now has his own room, receives clean linen daily, 3 meals a day, along with regular Dialysis Treatment to keep him alive…. all at the Taxpayers expense.
Sounds like he’ll soon have a room-mate.

In the words of bestie Maggy W above…..

What a FUCKING joke.
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May 30, 2022 7:21pm
- Jack5
  
  I wonder if the Mason clinic still holds Akshay Anand, who, while on police-opposed bail for an attack on Christie Marceau, tracked her and murdered her in 2011.
  
  Or perhaps the family of Anand, who was found not guilty by reason of insanity, has taken him back to his home country.
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/102010344/bail-laws-in-spotlight-after-coroner-releases-findings-into-the-death-of-christie-marceau
  
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  May 30, 2022 8:11pm
  - Jack5
    
    The news report linked to refers to the killer both as Akshay Anand and as Akshay Anand Chand, which seems to have been his correct name.
    
    Chand would have been about 19 when he murdered Christie Marceau, at her home in Hillcrest, Auckland, 11 years ago.
    
    Both Christie and the police had opposed Chand being remanded on bail.
    
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    May 30, 2022 8:26pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Is the one who can’t be named also a PI? As I recall the name looked as though it could be. A violent culture plus mental illness is a lethal mix.
  
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  May 30, 2022 9:24pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    He has a surname that hails from Samoa.
    
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