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CJames

There is an interesting item on Newstalk website that a review has just come out alleging a Maori man died in the Hawkes Bay just after being refused treatment in ED because he wouldn’t stop swearing. The review was on maternity services so they are drawing a long bow – maybe the authors were desperate to find bad things. The implication is that this was racism. Only problem is the DHB cannot find any record of it occurring and are seeking more information. Is that just a polite way of saying it didn’t happen? Hospitals are full of signs saying that one has to meet certain standards of behaviour – unfortunately, ED staff are regularly abused and assaulted. That is why they have to have security guards. If the abuse did occur as reported, why should the man have got a free pass?
https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/national/hawkes-bay-dhb-review-report-alleges-maori-man-died-after-he-was-refused-ed-care-for-swearing/

I wonder if reviews like this will be used as justification for why there needs to be a total reorganisation of the hospitals and DHBs into one superbody to make them more Maori focused. That is next item on Government’s agenda. As the restructure is being driven by Mr Little, the chances of it being successful are non-existent. There will be another billion or so dollars wasted is the only guaranteed outcome. Just another mess the next Government needs to sort out.
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June 25, 2022 8:01am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Only a racist person would cast any doubt on this. Rawiri’s people have been waiting 180 years…
  
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  June 25, 2022 8:07am
- NK
  
  Swearing is permitted through te tiriti. It is part of tangata whenua and papatuanuku’s strength delivered through tane mahuta. This would never have happened under the Maori Health Authority which will teach everyone this. Adrian Orr will be the lecturer.
  
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  June 25, 2022 8:20am
  - pdm
    
    NK on that basis any swearing should be in the dialect of the tribes that signed said Treaty.
    
    Use of English swear words as per Lady Chatterleys Lover would not be permitted.
    
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    June 25, 2022 8:53am
    - Loddenthinks
      
      It is in fact cultural appropriation, especially the liberal use of the most versatile Anglo-Saxon swear-words as reported in the ~~completely made up story~~ review.
      
      Was the Maori gentleman’s name Rufus Paynter by any chance?
      
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      June 25, 2022 10:57am
  - Paulus
    
    Thought Orr was of Cook Island decendent not Maori ?
    
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    June 25, 2022 10:11am
    - Sarkozygroupie
      
      Yes, but he strongly identifies with Maori as his brethren as part of a broad “Pacific Peoples” creed he lives by.
      
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      June 25, 2022 10:54pm
- Littletramp
  
  Typical left wing playbook. Leak a story to friendly media, who publish without verification, then all later discussion refers to the news story as if being baseline fact.
  This is just block building to support the new health moves.
  The media is now full blown propaganda tools for politicians, and getting worse.
  
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  June 25, 2022 8:41am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    There is a YouTube video of Nancy Pelosi saying just that. Use the media, repeat the published item and it becomes true.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK5DCQhXKlY
    
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    June 25, 2022 11:58am
  - NZer In Exile
    
    LT: “Typical left wing playbook. Leak a story to friendly media, who publish without verification, then all later discussion refers to the news story as if being baseline fact.”
    
    You’re onto it! Also how the climate emergency house of cards was built. Adolescent brained activists in big tech, social media and platforms like wackopedia are big time operatives in this kind of Orwellian disinformation as well. Notice how that mess of anonymous slander-merchants masquerading as an “encyclopedia” is promoted to the top of searches by a certain monopoly search engine.
    
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    June 25, 2022 1:26pm
- MCōs
  
  I find that anecdote in the article scarcely believable the way it’s been written up.
  
  My wife broke her wrist, went to Middlemore A & E & spent a night in a short stay ward.
  Sometime around 1am a woman making a real racket was brought into the ward. She was still going at 3am when I went home. She was surrounded by the biggest security guards you’ve ever seen to make sure she stayed put. Wailing, crying, thrashing around.
  She wasn’t yelling a few obscenities. That would have been more tolerable.
  
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  June 25, 2022 9:07am
- Paulus
  
  Total reorganisation starts in 6 dyas so tough luck.
  It will of course be a disaster as the wrong way to do anything like this correctly.
  And will cost billions but what the heck Grant and his mate will just print more to waste.
  
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  June 25, 2022 10:10am
- fisho
  
  Only discriminatory if he was swearing in Te Reo, which I doubt.
  In reality he was refused treatment because he was a foul mouthed abusive prick which, last time I looked, isn’t a race, sexual orientation, religion or gender.
  
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  June 25, 2022 10:38am
  - peterwn
    
    Must be something wrong with the nervous system. Needs a Lumbar Puncture so the fluid can be tested.
    
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    June 25, 2022 12:16pm
- Loddenthinks
  
  Like many others, I call BS on this fairy tale without a happy ending. Two and a bit years ago, I was clever enough to rupture my achilles tendon and turned up at A & E in the middle of the afternoon, to find a packed waiting room and people kicking off left and right.
  
  Some were sitting there patiently and quietly, but many were not and there were a lot of kiddies running around making a lot of noise, with the parents alternating between ignoring them until it got too much, and then shouting at them.
  
  To my astonishment, I was seen within 45 minutes and was out of there inside 90 minutes. I mentioned to the very competent doctor who had put the cast on how quickly I was seen, and both she and the nurse exchanged a look before she said “You met the criteria.”
  
  I didn’t ask what she meant, and no doubt the ones acting like complete a*seholes would play the raaacism card alleging preferential treatment for whitey, but I’m pretty sure the reason was I treated them with respect, gave them all the information they needed, didn’t try and get anything I wasn’t entitled to, didn’t hassle them when a fool could see they were busy, and sat quietly waiting my turn.
  
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  June 25, 2022 11:04am
  - Rodion Raskolnikov
    
    That waiting room scene is a perfect microcosm for society in general: good behaviour leads to good outcomes; poor behaviour leads to poor outcomes. Some people seem to be incapable of good behaviour, so to that extent, outcomes will always differ. It isn’t the system that is at fault, it is them.
    
    Even if the ED staff had offered them “bribes” of some form in the name of equity and hoped behaviours changed, unless their behaviour actually did change, then their being seen last would still not have changed. You weren’t seen while others were overlooked due to systemic bias, only because you behaved appropriately.
    
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    June 25, 2022 11:24am
    - Bluegrass
      
      Broken windows.
      
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      June 25, 2022 8:01pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb8iuaUaRLA
Texas’ Republican Platform Explained – TLDR News.

Over the weekend, the Republican Party in Texas finalised its official party platform. The platform was extreme, with clauses on everything from election integrity, homosexuality, and even Texan secession, which they want a referendum on next year.
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June 25, 2022 8:03am
- mawm
  
  Yes, one can’t have all these extremists wanting election integrity.
  
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  June 25, 2022 10:46am
- Deane Jessep
  
  I was a Patreon supporter of TLDR news for a short while as I really liked his Brexit coverage. I have however since canceled my subscription as he’s way too woke for me. I don’t consider 1/2 of the things he listed in that Texas hit piece to be “right wing” alot of it was just libertarian. Of course tons of it is lunacy, but he tangled alot of very good initiatives up with the silly ones to deliberately conflate them. Showing TLDRs massive bias.
  
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  June 25, 2022 11:06am
  - curry4me
    
    I think they’re tolerable. Sort of like The Guardian would have been 20 years ago.
    
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    June 25, 2022 5:52pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgKGVjWJhYA

ROE IS OVERTURNED! – Analyzing the Right’s Biggest Victory in Decades

This reaffirms that elections have consequences. Trump’s appointees to the high court made this possible. Now it’s a matter for the 50 states. [8:49]
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June 25, 2022 8:04am
- Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyes
  
  The outrage from the left is already reaching boiling point. Ironic that these same lefties were silent on teh forced vax’s & mandates? Their body /their choice didnt apply….grave concern expressed for the impact on trans-gender “womxn” – they have apparently lost a right the constitution gave them.
  No sign of any factcheckers on their ranting….this decision doesn not ban abortions in the entire US. This means that each state has a right to determine their laws on the subject. Last time I checked, democratic government is there to express the will of the people…..
  
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  June 25, 2022 1:56pm
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    The constitution is there to protect individuals and minorities from democratic majorities. It has failed and he simple truth is that women will die in consequence of this decision and the men responsible will deny culpability.
    
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    June 25, 2022 3:25pm
    - Ra Henare
      
      Bollocks….All it does is move the decision back where it belonged. At state level.
      Women will still be able to get abortions in the USA!!!
      
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      June 25, 2022 4:17pm
    - JimBobJoe
      
      Alan – Which article or amendment in the Constitution of the USA confers the right you describe?
      
      having just scan read the Constitution online – I see no such right. So unless you can quote the piece you’re referring to to I think you’re talking tosh
      
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      June 25, 2022 4:59pm
      - MeNotYou
        
        Exactly this. Personally I am pro-choice. But there is no right to abortion inter US Constitution. It just isn’t there.
        
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        June 26, 2022 7:17am
  - Don Beckett
    
    It simply states that there is no right to abortion in the Constitution. The activist judges in 1972? imagined that a right to abortion was discernable in the Constitution – there is no such right in the Document.
    
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    June 25, 2022 3:56pm
  - curry4me
    
    Yes, indeed. Keep away from the seaside and estuaries for the net few days. Incoming tsunami of liberal tears iminent.
    
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    June 25, 2022 5:53pm
artemisia

When looking for something else on the Ministry of Education’s website I came across the list of their Strategies and Policies. Clearly they are expecting readers to be fluent in the reo.

There are 12 titles in the list. Six are only in Maori, five only in English, one in both languages.
No need to read between the lines – education priorities are completely open and transparent.

How’s that working out?
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June 25, 2022 8:12am
- kowtow
  
  I suspect the actual body of the text under the M only title is still in English . That being the case this is abhorrent racist tokenism from the ministry , perhaps K Allan needs to get onto them.
  
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  June 25, 2022 12:37pm
virtualmark

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SCOTUS has become a Federalist Society frat house.

Just this month they decided the US government can arrest and jail you without Miranda rights, execute you even if your lawyer screws up, force you to have a baby, and use tax dollars to support religion. But it can’t protect your right to vote or keep you safe from guns.

They see The Handmaid’s Tale as a guidebook, not a work of fiction.

So now we get to see what happens when the dog finally catches the car. All of these decisions are unpopular. Gun control & abortion have 70%-ish support. Surely there will be electoral consequences.
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June 25, 2022 8:13am
- In Vino Veritas
  
  Virtual, you appear to have a very limited understanding of the role of the Supreme Court. In each of the instances you describe, you seriously should do some reading.
  
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  June 25, 2022 10:57am
- Loddenthinks
  
  Couldn’t agree more – expecting a GOP landslide in November. Let’s go Brandon!
  
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  June 25, 2022 11:07am
- Nukuleka
  
  You clearly have no notion of what the US Constution is nor its purpose. I suggest you do a little research before posting such nonsense.
  
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  June 25, 2022 11:29am
- mikenmildagain
  
  There will be no electoral consequences. The unpopularity of those decisions among voters at large will not translate into the sort of swing in voting preference that would be necessary to overcome the inherent conservative biases of the electoral system.
  Expect further decisions as set out by the road map in Alito’s decision.
  
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  June 25, 2022 11:42am
  - leoj
    
    In other words, Democrat voter fraud will have consequences.
    
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    June 25, 2022 11:50am
- Tom Hunter
  
  Heh. I thought you’d vanished as your President’s dementia became more and more indefensible and your Democrat Party hurtles towards a catastrophe in the November mid-terms.
  
  Gun control & abortion have 70%-ish support. Surely there will be electoral consequences.
  
  A statement that clueless should see you banning yourself from commenting on the US. The counterfactual is that across the USA, aside from only the deepest of Deep Blue locales, Democrats are not running on pro-abortion and pro-gun control measures. Opinion polls can be swayed by the precise questions asked and those Democrat politicians at the coal face know it and are not so stupid as to believe their own side’s BS – unlike Lefty activists and commentators.
  
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  June 25, 2022 12:00pm
  - virtualmark
    
    Oh Tom, always reliable.
    
    Biden is too old for the job, but I see no signs of dementia. And I’ve had a lot of experience with watching people succumb to dementia. But you keep watching Fox News – I know it’s your safe place.
    
    Democrats are not *yet* running on womens rights or gun control. But I suspect they will. Their biggest problem is that they’re run by an academic professorial-class that doesn’t know how to play rough. They need more James Carville and less Elizabeth Warren.
    
    But before you get the wrong idea (surely too late …) I don’t personally agree with abortion, and I do think Roe vs Wade is bad law. But I also believe in democracy and I accept that the majority of people support having abortion available. And I don’t believe I, or any minority, has the right to force their religious beliefs on the majority.
    
    And let me also be clear that I don’t have dog in the race of US politics. Whether abortions are available in the USA makes no difference to my life. So I’m just calling balls and strikes here. And in this case I score June’s SCOTUS decisions as bad for a 21st century society.
    
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    June 25, 2022 1:21pm
    - rouppe
      
      I accept that the majority of people support having abortion available
      
      Then that will surely show up in individual state’s legislature permitting abortion. The supreme Court didn’t ban abortion, they overturned a decision that abortion rights be decided at a federal level.
      
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      June 25, 2022 1:39pm
      - virtualmark
        
        No, no it won’t. Because in America democracy has been perverted with things like gerrymandering, the electoral college etc etc.
        
        If abortion were put to a nationwide referendum then yes I believe it would win. But that’s not how the American system works.
        
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        June 25, 2022 1:55pm
      - Bluegrass
        
        To virtualmark below – the USA is a republic, not a democracy.
        
        Hence, inter alia, the Electoral College.
        
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        June 25, 2022 7:40pm
      - virtualmark
        
        Bluegrass, there are lots of republics, but only one (AFAIK) uses an Electoral College system. The others use the popular vote.
        
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        June 26, 2022 8:56am
    - Loddenthinks
      
      “force you to have a baby” is an imaginative description of the usual consequences of becoming pregnant. I can promise you they won’t force me to have a baby, even though people like you imagine that’s possible.
      
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      June 25, 2022 8:24pm
- virtualmark
  
  Vino, I have an excellent understanding of the role of the Supreme Court. I also have an excellent understanding of the Constitution.
  
  The challenge though is in providing for a modern day society within the “constraints” of a document that was written before the storming of the Bastille. If America wants to live as an 18th century theocracy buttressed by minority rule – and about a quarter of Americans and a larger percentage of Kiwiblog commenters think that’s a good idea – then SCOTUS is here to deliver. But that’s not a modern society.
  
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  June 25, 2022 12:19pm
  - kowtow
    
    Our constitution is even older than parisians murdering parisians.
    And like the American one is also being constsntly amended.
    
    I’d suggest that the most successful modern states in the world , the Anglo saxon USA , UK NZ Canada and Oz all have something in common and that is the notion of abiding by our various constitutions ( all with common roots) in the concepts of fairness , the rule law and democratic principles.
    
    Interestingly many of those who don’t share the recent decision by Scotus seem to think the rule of law is only there for when decisions go their way and that the best result s are to be gained “in the street ” , at night or outside certain people’s homes .That takes us dow the road of many “modern” states , all of which have lovely relatively recent model newly minted constitutions , like perhaps Somalia , Pakistan , the PRC , Zim , RSA etc
    
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    June 25, 2022 12:48pm
    - virtualmark
      
      kowtow, we don’t have a written Constitution. I’m not sure how to break that news to you.
      
      The American Constitution was written by some of the wisest and cleverest minds of the (checks notes) … 18th century. Yes, it can be amended, but that process has become frozen and ineffective because a minority effectively has veto rights. So America is forced to contort itself to try and fit a modern society into an 18th century document.
      
      Meanwhile New Zealand, for example, without a written Constitution, can much more easily adapt and move with the changing times.
      
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      June 25, 2022 1:06pm
      - Inandout
        
        virt, I can’t go along with your view that the US Constitution has frozen legislation. What is so wrong with certain human rights set in stone, so to speak? And you alluding to NZ being able to ‘adapt and move with changing times’ drove this sad nation into MMP and the most hopeless government this nation has ever experienced.
        
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        June 25, 2022 2:01pm
      - kowtow
        
        And exactly where did I say we did?
        
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        June 25, 2022 3:01pm
      - CJames
        
        Habeas corpus dates right back to Magna Carta, doesn’t it? It still seems to hold relevance.
        
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        June 25, 2022 3:03pm
      - curry4me
        
        By late November, there might be enough red states, or whatever for a Constitutional Convention to be a thing. As in a Convention of the States.
        
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        June 25, 2022 5:58pm
      - Bluegrass
        
        I disagree with you in some respects, virtualmark.
        
        The US Constitution has not been frozen (the Second Amendment is a good example of that – i.e,. it has been widely interpreted by SCOTUS, back in the day, way beyond its original intent), and like any legislation, is subject to judicial interpretation by SCOTUS, pursuant to Anglo-Saxon common law jurisprudential principles.
        
        And not having a written constitution can be good and bad, as hinted at by the old Chinese curse ‘may you be subject to the government’s interest’.
        
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        June 25, 2022 7:50pm
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    Sorry Virtual, but your first para cannot be correct when followed by your second. It is not the SCOTUS role to make law, or modernise it.
    
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    June 25, 2022 1:09pm
    - virtualmark
      
      I understand that. But let’s not be ignorant that these SCOTUS decisions have a significant effect on everyday life. Every bit as much as Congress has.
      
      What would you want to happen if your daughter had an ectopic pregnancy?
      
      What would you want to happen if your son was arrested by the police and their Miranda rights were (intentionally) ignored?
      
      What would you want to happen if your grandchild tells you that today at school they had to have a shooter drill, and that they’re scared?
      
      Do you really believe that SCOTUS has a purely theoretical effect?
      
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      June 25, 2022 2:00pm
      - mawm
        
        vm – Obviously you have zero knowledge about ectopic pregnancies?
        
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        June 25, 2022 5:19pm
Close Hen Counters

I wonder if Cindy’s third overseas trip tomorrow is another part of her final hurrah or micromanaging 101. We are open for business is such a joke – the country is perpetual mask hell and condescending posters in stores telling you to wear a mask and be kind, that’s if the stores/ cafes are open! The cost of living is through the roof, cost of petrol eye watering, crime partic in Auckland unpleasant …. Where has Cindy been living? Walking through Mt Eden village yesterday, almost every cafe had sandwich boards outside offering jobs in every position yet thousands are on a ‘jobseeker benefit’ … we are pretty stuffed and as a tourist or immigrant, I would be in no rush to come here
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June 25, 2022 8:14am
NeverMindTheBollocks

Roe vs Wade gone.

Cue much feminist angst.
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June 25, 2022 8:14am
- Rodion Raskolnikov
  
  Those obese, screeching, young (and not so young) women threatening civil unrest because in some jurisdictions they will no longer be able to choose to be promiscuous without consequence are truly demonic. They are deeply troubled people who have been seduced by an ideology wherein their humanity is crushed.
  
  Apparently contentious issues like the practice of killing babies for personal convenience really expose the composition of contemporary society: self-appointed moral crusaders who are actually utterly amoral, versus decent people who have to argue the case for what was once a self-evident proposition prior to the acceleration of social decay. Even if you didn’t know what either side was protesting for or against at an “abortion rights” protest, a simple comparison between the two camps on the basis of their outward expression would fairly accurately decide who is right and who is wrong.
  
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  June 25, 2022 11:43am
  - alloytoo
    
    The “Screeching” women serve to alienate the moderates among us who would not object to safe and rare abortions.
    
    When the screeching starts we are likely to say @$#$ it!
    
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    June 25, 2022 1:13pm
  - gump
    
    It’s amazing how you claim to care about freedom, then effortlessly pivot to arguing that other people should lose their freedoms.
    
    I used to wonder if you were Russian because of all the weird pro-Kremlin nonsense you keep posting. But a real Russian would never make the mistake of naming themselves after one of literature’s greatest losers … so you must be role-playing and that is just plain weird.
    
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    June 25, 2022 1:22pm
    - rouppe
      
      On abortion, there really isn’t a situation where no one loses their freedoms.
      
      So let’s be clear. We’re all just a collection of cells, regardless of whether we’re 100 years post birth, 100 minutes post birth, or 100 minutes pre birth.
      
      If a baby is born, and immediately macerated, that is considered murder. If a baby is an hour from being born, and it is macerated, I struggle to understand how anyone can can see the difference between that and the first example.
      
      So the question comes back to: at what point is one OK with the maceration of cells, and the next day not?
      
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      June 25, 2022 1:51pm
Yvette

Now Willie Jackson is Minister of Broadcasting –

Māori media in for a big shake-up
Can Willie Jackson, Minister for Māori Development and former broadcaster, revitalise a struggling Māori media sector? Jackson says he wants to see more content in English and a closer alignment with other public media organisations.

“In the past it has all been about the language (te Reo), a huge focus on the language, but we need our own news in English and we need our own programmes in English; it’s not so much about the language, it’s about the stories. Most of our people don’t speak te Reo and we shouldn’t do it at the expense of our people.

“There are now minimal audiences on Māori TV. When Māori TV was at its best we had great programmes in English – remember Native Affairs, Code and outstanding coverage of Anzac day?”
First published June 8, 2021 – https://www.newsroom.co.nz/mori-media-in-for-a-big-shake-up

“Most of our people don’t speak te Reo and we shouldn’t do it at the expense of our people”.
Nor do the roughly 84 percent of non-Maori New Zealanders speak te Reo Maori “and we shouldn’t do it at the expense of” them either?
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June 25, 2022 8:18am
- septic skeptic
  
  Yet the reason for setting up Maori broadcasting was to prevent the language from dying out. Not to provide radicals and separatists with a state funded platform from which to spread their divisive propaganda.
  
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  June 25, 2022 10:36am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  I used to quite like Waiatea news (I think it was) as told stories (in English) about what was current in various iwis around the country. Interesting insight into a world quite different to mine.
  
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  June 25, 2022 11:11am
surfing

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/its-totally-unfair-school-principal-blasts-eden-park-management-over-cancelling-school-ball/TC6YMGBJE7V2VVSU46Z26YFJGA/

I’m appalled that Eden Park cancelled events that were booked and confirmed.

Surely they could have just stopped accepting future bookings and eventually balls would stop happening there.

I hope Eden Park gets taken to court and made to pay significant damages. Probably won’t happen, schools can’t even afford new classrooms let alone legal battes. Maybe a rich daddy could finance it?
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June 25, 2022 8:18am
Suze Wainwright

Matthew Ridge has lost his loyalty to aotearoa…?
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June 25, 2022 8:25am
krazykiwi

I love a good turn of phrase. This morning I read about someone whose argument was “torn apart faster than a tuna piñata in a tiger’s cage”. Such vivid imagery 🙂
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June 25, 2022 8:34am
- MCōs
  
  I saw a photo of Modi, Bolsonaro, Putin & Xi Jinping apparently engaged in some sort of summit recently.
  The caption read
  “Oil is thicker than human rights”
  
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  June 25, 2022 9:14am
  - rouppe
    
    The BRICS.
    
    Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa. I have a feeling Russia is finding a market that Europe can’t touch
    
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    June 25, 2022 9:35am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Yup, generating real wealth while the west argues about pronouns and figuring out which letter to add to the LGB alphabet soup. It’s not hard to see where this is heading and it isn’t good.
      
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    That’s the Saudi state motto, isn’t it?
    
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    June 25, 2022 11:09am
- ClanMcleod
  
  I just read it. Another excellent article from bad cattitude and a wonderful turn of phrase!
  
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  June 25, 2022 9:36am
Ford Prefect

I woke up at 5:30am yesterday morning and remembered to walk outside to see the magical astronomical miracle. No not the over-hyped Pleiades but the 5 planets lining up with the crescent moon. It was so cool that I woke up the others in the house and we stood there staring for a while.

This is the first time I knew what I was looking at as although Mercury was quite faint, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn were super bright. I often wonder what ancient man thought of these spectacular sights and Im sure they didnt need an overpriced focus group to work out the significance

They should be visible for a little while yet, just not in a perfectly straight line. If your up before sunrise I fully recommend looking up
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June 25, 2022 8:42am
- pdm
  
  ` I often wonder what ancient man thought of these spectacular sights……………………… ‘
  
  I bet he didn’t take a day off work either..
  
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  June 25, 2022 10:36am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    You don’t think people looked forward to the seasonal festivals, etc?
    
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    June 25, 2022 11:45am
Nickc2

The perpetual down ticker must still be in bed eh?
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June 25, 2022 8:45am
Scott

I see Roe vs Wade has been overturned by the United States supreme Court. The 1973 decision found the right to abortion in the constitution. Which actually never mentions abortion.
So it was a wrong decision and part of a trend for the supreme Court to become super legislatures. They would legislate things that democrats couldn’t get through Congress.

Now abortion laws return to the states. Where democratically elected bodies can pass laws on abortion. So some states like California will have permissive laws, some like Tennessee will not.
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June 25, 2022 8:46am
- leoj
  
  Yes, many forget they are 50 individual states and sometimes not united.
  
  As for abortion, it is simply a way around personal responsibility.
  
  Engaging in sex has consequences, hence the pill and condoms. All things we humans do have consequences.
  
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  June 25, 2022 11:59am
  - virtualmark
    
    SCOTUS will be moving on to ban contraception. (Read Thomas’ opinion on this most recent case).
    
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    June 25, 2022 12:20pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Nutters like you always resort to lying.
      They’re not going to ban anything.
      Thomas points out he is attacking the legal analysis (substantive due process) of the BASIS of these rights, not the rights themselves.
      
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      June 25, 2022 1:06pm
      - virtualmark
        
        I would say “Don’t be a fool Red” but it’s surely too late for that.
        
        If you read Clarence Thomas’s supporting opinion to today’s decision he clearly calls out Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell as other SCOTUS decisions that (a) rested on the same “equal rights” philosophy as Roe vs Wade and (b) should now be seen as up for “review”. The exact quote is:
        
        “In future cases, we should reconsider all of this Court’s substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell. Because any substantive due process decision is demonstrably erroneous, […] we have a duty to correct the error established in those precedents.”
        
        Griswold v. Connecticut was a 1965 decision that ruled the use of contraception was constitutionally protected.
        
        Lawrence v. Texas was a 2003 decision that dealt with homosexual sex between consenting parties.
        
        Obergefell v. Hodges was a 2015 decision that ruled gay marriage was a constitutionally protected right.
        
        So which part of “we have a duty to correct the error established in those precedents” do you not get??? Basically Thomas is, via his opinion here, soliciting people to bring cases that “test” those laws. And you can be sure that the religious right have heard that invitation and will take it up.
        
        Interestingly Thomas does not include Loving vs Virginia, which was a 1967 decision that ruled inter-racial marriage was a constitutional right. I wonder why he left that one out???
        
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        June 25, 2022 1:30pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        I did read it.
        You completely omit the part I mention he also stated which provides the context for his opinion.
        To be charitable you are a sucker for others who report and omit such facts.
        Or as I said, you’re a lying nutter.
        
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        June 25, 2022 1:41pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Here, read this
        https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/robert-spencer/2022/06/24/justice-thomas-calls-for-end-to-legislating-from-the-bench-drives-the-left-even-crazier-n1607871
        
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        June 25, 2022 1:45pm
      - virtualmark
        
        Let’s wait and see what new cases get filed with SCOTUS regarding those rights.
        
        I am not as optimistic as you are that the religious right will read Thomas’ opinion but just decide to “let it go”.
        
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        June 25, 2022 2:02pm
- curry4me
  
  Yes, Missouri has banned it already.
  
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  June 25, 2022 6:04pm
  - Bluegrass
    
    Many states have trigger legislation automatically banning abortion in the event the Roe is/was overturned.
    
    Missouri is one of them.
    
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    June 27, 2022 12:22am
mikenmildagain

Happy World Vitiligo Day!
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June 25, 2022 8:47am
- Cassandra
  
  Thanks mike, and the same to you, whatever it is.
  
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  June 25, 2022 9:32am
  - Flossie
    
    In all seriousness Cassandra, it is loss of pigment usually in patches on your skin. If it occurs on your face (as mine does, as well as on other parts of me) it is quite disfiguring and can be pretty stressful.
    
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    June 25, 2022 3:11pm
- Flossie
  
  As a sufferer I am not amused
  
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  June 25, 2022 9:57am
NeverMindTheBollocks

Looking at the TV coverage of Matariki events, I couldn’t help but notice that virtually every shot was closely cropped. The one shot that wasn’t indicated a very small turnout.

Did anyone get along to their local Matariki event (excluding Briscoes sales)? How busy was it?
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June 25, 2022 8:48am
CJames

There will be a lot of hysterical commentary over the next few weeks that the US Supreme Court has outlawed abortion. When you hear that, you know to devalue everything that is said or written after that. They are pontificating from an ignorance viewpoint.
All the court has ruled is that abortion isn’t a Federal jurisdiction matter and it is not a constitutional right. It goes back to something for the individual states to set limits and rules on. That is all. Some states have very restrictive rules. Some have very permissive ones. And that is likely to stay unchanged. That is unless the government in those states swing (mainly to the right), which is a very real possibility in a number of them.
The Democrats are desperate to find any issue to stop them being wiped out in November, so they will rally round this. No doubt we will see lots of “mainly peaceful” protests. If the riots occur, it will become a law and order issue and sink the Democrats further. It was interesting to see that reputable opinion polls already showed it is more a winner issue for Republicans than Democrats. Looting will only strengthen the Republicans’ hand.
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June 25, 2022 8:49am
- krazykiwi
  
  Here’s that CNN stillframe of a “mostly peaceful” protest
  
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  June 25, 2022 9:02am
- kiwikidsnz
  
  Over 2/3 of the adult population support abortion rights & will hold the Supreme Court judges in contempt.
  
  I see that Judge Thomas has now expressed his opinion that reversals of previous “erroneous” decisions supporting rights to contraception & homosexuality should be next.
  
  The response to the ongoing political gerrymandering of the Supreme Court may be extremely divisive.
  
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  June 25, 2022 9:02am
  - Don Beckett
    
    You may need to check your “2/3 of the adult population” claim. I think you will find it is much less than that. It depends on where you live in the USA – some parts are very liberal and don’t mind killing babies, other parts are conservative, and value all human life.
    
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    June 25, 2022 11:21am
    - bennerg
      
      This is something the average Kiwi finds difficult to grasp, the federal system of 50 states, with the electoral college and the four federal levels of governance – Congress, Senate, President, and Supreme Court.
      
      This decision was a “decide for yourselves” decision, not a “you cannot”.
      
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      June 25, 2022 11:43am
      - Steve Todd
        
        Slight correction, bennerg. The US government has three branches; the Legislative, the Executive, and the Judicial.
        
        Regarding the Legislative branch, the Constitution states, at Article 1, Section 1: All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.
        
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        June 25, 2022 1:34pm
  - kowtow
    
    And now they will be able to give expression to their views in state elections .
    
    A very democratic outcome.
    
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    June 25, 2022 12:54pm
- Philview
  
  The NZ media are reporting that most Americans oppose this. If that is true democracy will work to boot out representatives who don’t reflect the wishes of the electorate, this is how democracy works. I think this is a great day for US democracy.
  
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  June 25, 2022 9:03am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    That’s not how democracy works in the USA though. some people constantly like to harp on that it is a ‘constitutional republic’, as if that automatically rules out Lincoln’s idea: ‘government of the people, by the people, for the people’. Lincoln, of course, had such radical ideas about democracy that half the states were frightened into rebellion.
    
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    June 25, 2022 11:50am
    - leoj
      
      ….but absentee ballots, ballot harvesting and mail in voting are quite okay milky?
      
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      June 25, 2022 12:09pm
    - Matt Long
      
      The Dem states if I recall.
      
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      June 25, 2022 12:26pm
  - Dave Winefield
    
    The answer is simple. Row v Wade is repealed. Now each State in the union sets its laws. Abortion legality is niot affected, the situation simply return to weher it was 50 years ago when Roe was decided by 9 Justices.
    
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    June 25, 2022 12:34pm
- Cassandra
  
  And it’s in America. You’d thing Roe applied to NZers the ways the media is carrying on. Roe doesn’t apply in Russia or Chad either – where are the Stuff and Horrid headlines about that? Who cares what the US Supreme Court says or does? Any more than the Court de Cassation or anywhere else. Now the UK Supreme is a different matter – that’s relevant.
  
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  June 25, 2022 9:36am
  - Cassandra
    
    Thing shd be think.
    
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    June 25, 2022 11:15am
- All_on_Red
  
  Comments from Alito and other Justices in this link.
  https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2022/06/24/breaking-scotus-overturns-roe-in-dobbs-on-alito-opinion-6-3-n478413
  Back to the States where as Alito says “permissibility of abortion … are to be resolved like most important questions in our Democracy: by citizens trying to persuade one another and then voting”.
  
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  June 25, 2022 9:46am
- Mobile Michael
  
  Roe vs Wade was always a shaky legal precedent, it was used to justify a topic not contemplated by the Constitution.
  
  The decision is that States can each regulate abortion services through a legislative process, which in turn relies on the endorsement of voters. It did not find that the right to life from conception is guaranteed by the Constitution, and if such a case was bought it would likely lose 5 v 4 as Roberts would not uphold such a decision.
  
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  June 25, 2022 10:16am
  - kiwikidsnz
    
    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-06-24/supreme-court-abortion-ruling-in-dobbs-is-institutional-suicide
    
    It’s a lot more extensive attack on human rights than “…a topic not contemplated by the Constitution”
    
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    June 25, 2022 10:33am
    - Rodion Raskolnikov
      
      Nobody has the “right” to kill their own child. What they do have is the right to regulate their own behaviour and to engage in or abstain from sex, in light of easily foreseen potential consequences. Abortion is presented some high human right, but if you strip it back to the essence, it’s really about a right to act like a hoe or not.
      
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      June 25, 2022 11:52am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Some of the real mad radicals say the birth control pill is really an abortion pill.
        There are many reasons for abortion. Fetus diagnosed as having Spina Bifida is one. Incest and Rape are two more. Abortion is not a means of contraception.
        Candace Owens did a good video on this. I think I posted it below.
        
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        June 25, 2022 12:21pm
      - kiwikidsnz
        
        Patriarchal self serving power & control BS. If men could have kids abortion wouldn’t even be a question.
        
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        June 25, 2022 12:32pm
      - bennerg
        
        Steve Otto, I guess that abortion can then be best described as a medical decision, not a lifestyle one.
        
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        June 25, 2022 12:37pm
      - Ross Campbell
        
        Your “conservative” views on abortion and women are just damn right scary Rodion.
        Lets hope people as intolerant and bigoted as yourself never get anywhere near power in NZ because I suspect we might be going back to stoning adulterers and burning witches at the stake if you had your way.
        
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        June 25, 2022 12:49pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        I did not post about Candace Owens. Here it is.
        https://www.facebook.com/realCandaceOwens/videos/369911655181643/
        
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        June 25, 2022 12:53pm
      - Rodion Raskolnikov
        
        Strawman arguments aside Ross, I don’t think that easy abortions and their principal cause, social acceptance of carefree promiscuity, are good for women at all. Call it tough love, but I cannot imagine that the psyche of a woman who has had double-digits of sexual partners and multiple abortions as a consequence would be a sound one and would make for a happy woman. Both behaviours are degrading to women. Would you be fine if your daughter reached such a low state? If behaving like a loose woman became socially unacceptable again (for which there was sound reasons, as given above), then demands for the right to abortions would decrease in proportion. The one leads to the other. If that scares you Ross, then that’s a shame, but it’s also not my concern.
        
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        June 25, 2022 1:24pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Radion, many of us think Ross is really Mike.
        Starts off OK but ends with a disguised insult.
        Mike has about 5 pseudonyms
        
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        June 25, 2022 3:29pm
      - Bluegrass
        
        To Rod: Ignoring the argument of when a fetus becomes a child, there are, as is often the case with the law when it seeks to govern human nature, shades of gray.
        
        For example, abortion can be a humane and necessary medical option, as in cases of child (pregnant pubescent girls) rape.
        
        And without some degree of flexibility in abortion law, back-yard abortionists of yore will likely re-emerge.
        
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        June 26, 2022 11:48pm
    - virtualmark
      
      kiwikidsnz, don’t over-estimate Kiwibloggers ability to see the big picture.
      
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      June 25, 2022 12:25pm
      - Rodion Raskolnikov
        
        What’s the big picture? I think that deliberately ignoring the initial choices that are made prior to conception, at which point the entire question of a right to abortion can be avoided, but instead claiming an illusory right to negate conception out of convenience is to miss the big picture, which is that nobody has a right to take another’s life, no matter what rationalisations are used to justify it.
        
        You’re obviously an enlightened progressive: imagine thinking that you’re a defender of the marginalized and a voice for the voiceless while advocating the murder of the silent life in the womb and calling it a right.
        
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        June 25, 2022 1:13pm
      - virtualmark
        
        Rodion, the big picture is whether you want a society that is locked into 18th century answers to 21st century problems, even if the majority of your democracy object to those 18th century answers.
        
        Constitutional, legal and executive (ie Govt) decisions rely on either implicit legitimacy arising from the respect and trust of the population, or explicit authority arising from force. Respect for SCOTUS has been falling for several years now. The recent decisions seem sure to deepen that trend. If you consider yourself an institutionalist then you should be alarmed that SCOTUS is rapidly losing its legitimacy.
        
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        June 25, 2022 1:39pm
      - Rodion Raskolnikov
        
        You make some big assumptions there, principally that society invariably progresses over time. This is not obvious at all. In fact, the historical record shows the opposite, i.e. that society ascends and descends in a cyclic manner over time. For instance, the end of the Roman Republic marked the beginning of the end of the Roman virtues on which the society was grounded, even though there was still 400 years of Empire to come, with its well-documented decline into social corruption and decadence. Roman in 60BC had more moral worth than Rome in 400AD. Similarly, the moral paradigm in the 21st century is, I argue, far inferior to that of the 18th century. While our material wealth since that time has increased (but even that is now declining) we have morally degenerated to the extent that we have secularised society and placed ourselves in the position of gods. The very fact that the practice of killing babies for personal convenience has become contentious is a sure sign of widespread moral bankruptcy.
        
        We wouldn’t even have “21st century problems” like an argument over abortion but for other “21st century problems” such as rampant hedonism, nihilism and one of its effects, promiscuity, if society still rested upon a solid moral foundation. It is no accident and is entirely predictable than when long established and well maintained foundations are undermined or removed, the superstructure collapses of necessity.
        
        I suspect that you don’t much respect or attribute legitimacy to SCOTUS because this is an issue you disagree with. Had they instead upheld Roe v Wade, it’s a fair assumption that you would find them much more legitimate and worthy of respect.
        
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        June 25, 2022 2:26pm
- virtualmark
  
  CJames, even Fox News is showing a recent poll that says 68% of Americans favour keeping Roe vs Wade.
  
  I agree with you that the Constitution doesn’t discuss abortion. There are many things it doesn’t discuss.
  
  And I agree with you that the US federal government should pass some sensible balanced legislation. But given the make-up of the Senate that isn’t going to happen. So America will become more polarised, and more dysfunctional.
  
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  June 25, 2022 12:23pm
  - Rodion Raskolnikov
    
    No matter what the public sentiment may be in fact, abortion is not a matter of popular opinion, it is a matter of right versus wrong. If 90% of people agreed that murder should decriminalised, that wouldn’t affect the moral value of murder, it would simply indicate that 90% of people are immoral.
    
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    June 25, 2022 1:16pm
    - virtualmark
      
      Rodion, each person has a different view of right versus wrong. I think it’s right to love my neighbour. Nga Puhi used to think it’s right to eat your neighbour. Who is correct?
      
      You’re free to have your own individual moral standards.
      
      But, in a democracy, we set out shared legal standards on the basis of the majority. Which is not the case with these SCOTUS decisions, and difficult to accommodate when you lock in a 250 year old written Constitution.
      
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      June 25, 2022 1:49pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Morality and ethics are human not divine constructs, developed through trial and error, that really just represent a near-optimal set of rules to govern interpersonal relationships in a society to maximize net societal benefits – primarily group but also individual. Chimpanzees and other social animals develop a lot of the same ‘morality’ to govern their social behaviour. Optimal morality changes over time, eg with regard to infanticide, slavery, treatment of outsiders, war and conquest, and subjugation of women and control of their fertility that have been the norm in many cultures historically. Morality inevitably changes dramatically in an era of reliable birth control where useful brains are far more valuable than martial brawn.
      
      Viewed in that light abortion doesn’t really threaten anyone that the majority of our society regards as human – that any of us might evolve into during our life (like eg Alzheimer’s patients that is destiny of many and so viewed differently). From that viewpoint it’s morally neutral except in as much as it affects the personal freedom of the pregnant woman involved – and many people can imagine themselves in situations where they would want the choice of aborting.
      
      There is no chance that abortion will become widely proscribed again in our society. Unless perhaps fundamentalist religion takes over due to their higher fertility over the next 5-10 generations (which is what evolution is selecting most strongly for at the moment, alongside idiocracy style welfare baby-farming).
      
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      June 25, 2022 4:15pm
  - CJames
    
    Roe vrs Wade allowed abortion up to 28 weeks from memory. Was that the specific question asked in the poll? According to 538 ” In 2013, when 61 percent of Americans thought abortion should generally be legal in the first three months of pregnancy, Republican legislators in Arkansas passed a law that banned abortion after 12 weeks, which was overturned by the courts. ” That is a lot different to RvW.
    The SC decision was solely on the grounds that it was a state, not a Federal matter. Read the judgement. If the Democrats wanted it codified it into Federal law, they should have done it when they had the majority. They didn’t. Like a lot of other things that the SC is striking down. EPA rules are similar.
    
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    June 25, 2022 1:24pm
    - virtualmark
      
      CJames, I have read parts of judgement (by the time you include supporting and dissenting opinions there’s a lot to read).
      
      Look, I don’t support abortion, and I think Roe vs Wade was bad law. But Roe vs Wade did have the virtue of providing for modern life within a 250yo constitutional framework. A bit like “don’t ask don’t tell” in the military. It’s a figleaf, but a useful fig leaf.
      
      Now there’s no fig leaf, just dysfunction. A majority who feel their rights are being trodden on, and a minority who want to impose a theocracy. This is the sort of thing that is setting America on a path to something like the Northern Irish “troubles”.
      
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      June 25, 2022 1:52pm
      - CJames
        
        If there is a real majority, Democrats running for state offices like say Stacey Abrams, can announce that they want to institute the same laws in their state (in her case, Georgia) that RvW allowed. From what you say, that would be a massive vote winner. What is the bet they won’t because the support isn’t there.
        Whatever people on the West Coast, Colorado or New York think, they should not be able to force those in the Red states to go along with it. I note that people are moving from Blue to Red sstates which implies you theocracy isn’t a big issue. Democrats need control of the US House and Senate, then Federalise the law. They could have done that numerous times in last 50 years but they didn’t. Why was that?
        
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        June 25, 2022 3:19pm
  - Nickc2
    
    How convenient that this should come to prominence leading into the Midterm elections.
    
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    June 25, 2022 7:46pm
  - Bluegrass
    
    virtualmark – re your comment about implicit legitimacy – the US Constitution [and law itself] only works if it is applied by and to like-minded people who share the same or similar cultural/religious/jurisprudential roots of its authors.
    
    But just two generations after the US 1965 Nationality and Immigration Act, which permitted the the importation of folk who have been used as tools by their Marxist enablers to in effect politically and culturally disenfranchise normative, mainstream, white, Christian America, the US is becoming increasingly Balkanized/tribalized/politically polarized.
    
    See Africa.
    
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    June 25, 2022 8:34pm
Yvette

The smoke from the food rose to the stars to feed the Matariki cluster. Keepa concluded with a karakia to acknowledge Tipuanuku, the star within the Matariki cluster connected to food from the earth, and rongoa.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/469704/matariki-what-is-hautapu

When the Ardern Government gets around two attempting again to define “hate speech” – and one assumes they will to coincide with the nation-wide “conversation” on “co-governance” – will the sense of it becoming a crime to denigrate any minority over their religion, be balanced by an equal crime: to raise up or give undue prominence to any minority group also over religion, particularly by the state?
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June 25, 2022 8:49am
- Benedict Yu
  
  I have no issues with Maori mythology being recounted. I do have an issue with Maori knowledge of the stars being promoted as Maori “astronomy”. I am fairly confident that Maori had no clue what shiny things in the stars actually were. So they made up stories. And over centuries they observed that certain stars appeared at times of the year that were helpful to mark events.
  
  Sorry, I remain utterly underwhelmed.
  
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  June 25, 2022 10:30am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    ‘Made up stories?’ Never! Why would they say things that are untrue, and never ever were true?
    
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    June 25, 2022 12:23pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  But… I also heard over the last couple of days…
  that it is the steam from the pot or the umu that is offered up to the stars.
  
  As Maori were in the habit of laying down a hangi when a large gathering occurred, then it would be steam that came off the food… not smoke.
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/pou-tiaki/300614885/new-head-of-steam-keeps-rising-for-matarikis-hautapu-ceremony
  
  If we are to be exposed to Maori customs by our MSM, it would pay for the folks writing/speaking to swat up on what really happens…and not make up a story.
  
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  June 25, 2022 10:56am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  It’s extraordinary that we now have state sponsored animism.
  
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  June 25, 2022 11:14am
  - fernglas
    
    Every time you are forced to listen to or partake in a karakia at some public event, or hear Parliament opened with a prayer, you are looking at State sponsored religion. I thought we were a secular country?
    
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    June 25, 2022 6:08pm
- G152
  
  So smoke can exceed the speed of light??????
  
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  June 25, 2022 12:22pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    OK,
    So the Stars making up the Pleiades cluster will just be receiving smoke/steam signals from 1578…
    
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    June 25, 2022 1:23pm
    - Jack5
      
      Chris Potter at his Bowalley Road blog muses on attitudes to Maori beliefs, sometimes in contrast to attitudes to Christian beliefs. A taste:
      
      Can a people spiritually unconnected to anything other than their digital devices truly appreciate the relentless progress of gods and heroes across the heavens?
      
      https://bowalleyroad.blogspot.com/2022/06/matariki-thoughts-and-questions.html
      
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      June 25, 2022 5:12pm
      - Jack5
        
        Whoops! Chris Trotter, not Chris Potter.
        Sorry!
        
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        June 25, 2022 7:51pm
Warren

Five years of slogans, lies and deciet, our Housing , Health, and Education portfolios are in disarray, but the female population don’t seem to care even if their Children and Grandchildren will never be able to afford a property of their own under the Leadership of our Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern.
Jacinda is not God even if those that drool over her believe so Jacinda is selfish and self serving and it’s all about her not the betterment of our Country that many females believe.
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June 25, 2022 8:50am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Slogans, all of her life…..
  
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  June 25, 2022 12:25pm
mikenmildagain

More trouble for Boris Johnson?
Big by-election swings have more conservatives calling for him to quite. And, more humiliating, he couldn’t get the commonwealth leaders to back him in dumping the (English) secretary-general.
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June 25, 2022 8:52am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Yes I think he should quite as well.
  
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  June 25, 2022 8:55am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    Quite so!
    
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    June 25, 2022 9:04am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Quite. He’ll never quit, and never stay quiet, of course.
      
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      June 25, 2022 9:25am
- MCōs
  
  The word ‘humiliation’ isn’t in the Politicians’ Pocket Dictionary.
  It’s been scratching out and replaced by ‘Dunkirk moment’ or in the American version ‘Big Lie’.
  
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  June 25, 2022 10:19am
pdm

quite? Mikey.
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June 25, 2022 8:54am
Tom Barker

The US Supreme Court decision won’t stop all abortions. Only safe ones.
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June 25, 2022 8:54am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Will also criminalise many miscarriages in places like Alabama and Mississippi that wish to be more like Guatemala.
  
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  June 25, 2022 11:51am
  - Matt Long
    
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/fox-nation-abortion-doctor-kermit-gosnell-special
    Maybe a bit less of this, but in reality the abortion and selling baby parts industries will simply move to “progressive” states.
    Maybe those with animism or paganism as their state religion like New Zealand.
    
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    June 25, 2022 12:35pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  I imagine the judges are not going to find life pleasant in D.C.
  
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  June 25, 2022 3:35pm
krazykiwi

On the rise of intolerance: How universities were corrupted. Extracts:-

Unlike moral cultures in the past, which stressed dignity and honour, and put an emphasis on toleration and negotiation as a route out of conflict, victimhood culture encourages students to stress their oppression, marginalisation, and victimhood as a means of acquiring status from their peers; while simultaneously turning to third parties (i.e., university administrators) to punish those who are seen to be “oppressing” or merely challenging their safety and beliefs.
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The rise of this victimhood culture is also, almost certainly, being encouraged by the broader ideological evolution of Britain’s universities. As my research, and that of others, has shown over the past four years, these are morphing into “ideological monocultures” where the ratio of Left-wing to Right-wing academics has increased from three to one in the Sixties to around eight to one today. Much like institutions in America, it is increasingly hard to find visible conservatives or other nonconformists on campus. Some students will now go through their entire degree never really knowing one at all.
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It is perhaps no coincidence that amid these changes, only 25% of British people now think universities are offering “value for money”, and more people would rather their child studied for an apprenticeship than went to university. What a tawdry end for our once world-leading institutions.
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June 25, 2022 8:57am
- Nickc2
  
  The Universities bought discredit on themselves!
  
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  June 25, 2022 9:07am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Whatever happened to the new University of Austin that was being touted by a few on this blog last year as a bold free speech alternative?
  
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  June 25, 2022 9:34am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2021/11/welcome_to_the_university_of_austin.html
    
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    June 25, 2022 9:35am
  - blue collar
    
    Gotta get the land , degrees , status , etc sorted , talking 2024 , big job , if the funds and willpower are there it should be a goer .
    
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    June 25, 2022 9:47am
  - cmm
    
    Well clearly that didn’t last and they fell into line.
    
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    June 25, 2022 10:18am
  - MCōs
    
    It’s up and running.
    
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    June 25, 2022 10:21am
skyblue

Day 1 in UK. Not a mask in sight.
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June 25, 2022 8:59am
- krazykiwi
  
  Good news. Hope it stays that way. We’re T+35 for our UK/Portugal trip.
  
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  June 25, 2022 4:06pm
blue collar

Does anyone know if our bill of rights is still sidelined and the govt is currently operating under emergency powers ?
If they are , why ?
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June 25, 2022 9:34am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  The National Emergency Seems to have been terminated
  
  We are still bound by the COVID-19 Public Health Response Act 2020
  
  Here are the current orders we are under
  
  https://covid19.govt.nz/about-our-covid-19-response/legislation-and-key-documents/#covid-19-public-health-response-act-orders-and-notices
  
  (Scroll down the page to discover the current and revoked orders)
  
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  June 25, 2022 11:10am
  - blue collar
    
    Thanks Maggie !!
    You hv a knack for finding info and sorting the wheat from the chaff …. It is much appreciated
    
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    June 25, 2022 1:03pm
redeye

I would have thought this government had already secured the public servant and consultant vote. Apparently not.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/128945844/govt-departments-spend-550k-sending-over-100-bosses-on-away-days

While some government departments run strategy sessions and leadership development in an office, others have been spending thousands of dollars on out-of-town trips, one even taking place in the midst of a wave of Covid-19 cases.
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Between March 2020 and April this year, over $557,000 was spent by 31 government departments on away days, according to figures released to Stuff under the Official Information Act.
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The Public Service Commission spent the most – over $53,000 across 10 days – on venues, accommodation and meals, but it also catered to the most people, 30 on average.
Four of those days were at the 14-acre Brackenridge Country Resort and Spa, in Martinborough.

Offering “complete country indulgence”, a week-night stay costs $520, rising to $565 on Fridays and Saturdays, its website says, while the spa offers everything from full body treatments to specialised facials – though no taxpayer money was spent on any such treatments.
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June 25, 2022 9:34am
- pdm
  
  Public Service Commission – is that part of Chippies fiefdom?
  
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  June 25, 2022 10:39am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    The state services commission renamed itself for some reason a year or so ago. It’s an organisation that ceased to be relevant after the actual public service was fragmented in 1987-1993.
    
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    June 25, 2022 11:55am
Tomsk

Has anyone noticed this latest distortion of the truth by Stuff.
It was only revealed when his resignation was announced that Faafoi had planned to step down at the last election, but had been convinced by Jacinda Ardern to stay.

Its been common knowledge that Fafoi wanted to leave at the last election hence the disinterest in doing his job. Probably just as well given how useless he is. But who else could have persuaded him?
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June 25, 2022 9:38am
- cmm
  
  They had to keep him around. He is the only vaguely competent operator they have. And diversity…
  
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  June 25, 2022 10:30am
- pdm
  
  Not sure competent applies to Faafoi with regard to Immigration and Justice.
  
  Perhaps he should have stayed with his old portfolios.
  
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  June 25, 2022 10:41am
Benedict Yu

I wonder if these folk who work for “Let’s Get Wellington Moving” recognise that they are simply providing source material for stand up comedians?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/wellington/128989628/heritage-sites-could-force-detours-in-wellingtons-public-transport-plans

This committee has existed for about 5 years and AFAIK has achieved nothing. I mean literally nothing.

Meanwhile the Wellington Council is about to install a pedestrian crossing on SH1 to the airport. 🤡
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June 25, 2022 9:50am
- Nickc2
  
  I worked in WGTN on and off whilst living in AKLD over my career and was convinced then that that’s where all NZ’s idiots go to die.
  I’m not surprised at what Benedict’s saying about the damned place. IMO, the place should be Ring Fenced until all its loonies die. That includes politicians because they very quickly get caught up in the lunacy that pervades WGTN.
  
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  June 25, 2022 10:02am
- krazykiwi
  
  I have lived in Wellington’s eastern suburbs for decades, and I use Cobham Drive most days. In any given year I could count on the fingers of one hand the number of pedestrians I’ve seen running across four lanes of traffic. There simply is no need for a crossing where it is being placed. None. Further, the WCC has also reduced the speed limit on two sections of SH1 between the Mt Vic tunnel and the airport. Let’s ~~get~~ STOP Wellington moving is more the catch cry.
  
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  June 25, 2022 10:03am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Why not dig a tunnel? That would waste a lot more Rates.
  
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  June 25, 2022 12:30pm
kevn

@BY… Better be a rainbow crossing.
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June 25, 2022 9:55am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Wonder how that would stand up in court if a car hit a pedestrian? Did not recognise that as a ped crossing, just thought some vandals had painted the road.
  
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  June 25, 2022 12:33pm
Swifty

Winston Peters interviews Deputy PM Brian Talboys, 1978:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tasz8j_efvU
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June 25, 2022 10:07am
ClanMcleod

Children being infected with up to three viruses at a time due to the insanity of the covid measures inflicted on the public over the last two and a half years.

https://dailysceptic.org/2022/06/14/children-are-being-infected-with-up-to-three-viruses-at-a-time-because-of-weakened-immune-systems-experts-warn/

Another disaster, this was 100% predicted and those who dared speak this truth were ridiculed. What a total clown show. These people are responsible for the biggest public health disaster in history and the destruction of many millions of lives.
The fallout isn’t over yet, the current impending financial disaster is all due to the actions taken by Ardern and the other “leaders” around the planet who drove these lunatic policies.
The concern is they will never admit they were wrong. That they are trying to get parents to put this experiment into their children is criminal activity.
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June 25, 2022 10:10am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Further to the post re immune system damage. Anyone considering injecting their kids should first watch this video. Some very, very important information.
  
  https://twitter.com/Vaccine_Truth3/status/1539819519387979776?s=20&t=W-rZPsuarbaWp3eW6j2aUw
  
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  June 25, 2022 10:16am
- virtualmark
  
  You do realise that we routinely infect children with three or more viruses at a time right?
  
  And that we keep re-infecting them with the same virus several times right? Just to be sure we got them real good.
  
  https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/immunisation-handbook-2020/national-immunisation-schedule
  
  You guys are so wrapped up in your Covid fever that you’ve lost sight of how medical science works.
  
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  June 25, 2022 12:28pm
  - Matt Long
    
    There’s a difference between vaccination and infection.
    
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    June 25, 2022 1:02pm
  - NK
    
    No we have never given tamariki experimental, unsafe and ineffective vaccines.
    
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    June 25, 2022 1:52pm
  - mawm
    
    Vm – obviously you have no understanding of how interferons work and what the mRNA vaccines have done to one’s immune system including interferons.
    
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15320958/
    
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S027869152200206X
    
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    June 25, 2022 6:19pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Vm – the only people wrapped up in the covid fever are Ardern, the clowns she surrounds herself with masquerading as experts, and those members of the public who still believe these people, even though it is without doubt now that they screwed up totally and in every respect.
    I would prefer to never have to discuss the topic in my life again, but I’m still living in an insane place that prevents me accessing certain services without a nappy on my face that does nothing positive in health terms. A place that has a struggling health system due to compelling people to hide under their beds for over 2 years. A place that still has mandates compelling people to take an experimental medical treatment that didn’t work.
    
    Medical science? I dream of the day we are allowed to get back to medical science. What we’ve had for over 2 years has been nothing to do with science.
    
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    June 26, 2022 6:57am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Vax manufacturers are really wanting to start up a monkeypox Vaccination with the after boosters
  
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  June 25, 2022 12:35pm
blue collar

The govt is running out of time to implement the Maori health authority and health restructure . Aswell as 3 waters .
I can’t see either happening .
It takes immense organisation , which they are incapable of .
Factor in the polls , lack of nurses and the current hospital crisis , if you tinker with the current creaking system it will collapse . At least it’s barely functioning now
Also 3 waters will be a major poll worry and May force Brenda to stand up to the Maori caucus . They know New Zealanders see it as theft. Mahuta and her bad press , dodgy family connections , are linked to both health and 3 waters and the genie is out in the media . It won’t go away .
If labour wants any chance they must abandon both .
And they know it .
Trouble is these issues are deflecting from other non delivery issues directly linked to Brenda eg child poverty , housing etc
So it’s a catch 22 and they are screwed .
Matariki was a massive shove to get the common people into Maori co governance but it has failed . Ordinary folk ( non woke virtue signallers ) couldn’t give 2 hoots about stars and New Years and Maori culture beyond a superficial level .
They want low interest rates , cheap fuel , cheap food , jobs , an affordable house and to stop wearing a mask .
I don’t hv to wear one at work , I really feel sorry for those in retail and others that do .
I hope 3 waters and the health reforms are another 2 non deliveries …. I fear they will try and rush them through half arsed and leave national with an expensive mess to clean up , and the people to suffer from a destroyed institution
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June 25, 2022 10:12am
- Nickc2
  
  They’re deliberately trashing the joint before they’re out on their arses.
  
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  June 25, 2022 10:20am
- ClanMcleod
  
  This UK media hack makes a total arse of herself. She tries to bait a union leader, he basically laughs at her which is what she deserves. The mainstream media is becoming more of a joke with every passing day.
  
  https://twitter.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1539144444997423108?s=20&t=P9L7syzmkYs33MBRbrOKfg
  
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  June 25, 2022 10:21am
- ClanMcleod
  
  More to the point, she is actively driving a wedge into our society. It is her greatest “achievement”. She did it with medical apartheid, now she is doing the same with race. Has there ever been a more disastrous leader in the history of NZ? Why is she so intent on destroying this country?
  
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  June 25, 2022 10:23am
  - Ross Campbell
    
    Did you over do your Matariki celebrations Clan as you seem more worked up than usual this morning?. I have got to hand it too you though as that “Medical apartheid” quote was a good one even by your hyperbolic standards.
    
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    June 25, 2022 10:58am
    - Rodion Raskolnikov
      
      Segregating society into two camps with differing rights on the basis of having/not having a medical procedure is, by definition, medical apartheid. You can scoff, but your scoffing will not change the facts.
      
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      June 25, 2022 12:08pm
      - gump
        
        Segregating society into two camps with differing rights on the basis of having/not having a drivers license is, by definition, transport apartheid. You can scoff, but your scoffing will not change the facts.
        
        Do you have any more insane ramblings to share with us? I need a good laugh.
        
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        June 25, 2022 1:06pm
      - Rodion Raskolnikov
        
        The obvious problem with your fatuous analogy is that bifurcating the population on the basis of licence to drive a vehicle, or not, does not involve the breach of any intrinsic rights that serve to protect the population from state overreach, whereas vaccine segregation and discrimination policies breach several civil and human rights we all have as regards the state. Moreover, the need for a valid drivers licences is a safety issue with a logical argument as justification, whereas there are no such justifications for vaccine passports and vaccine mandates. They are essentially punishments for non-compliance.
        
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        June 25, 2022 1:39pm
      - NK
        
        A driver’s licence is not a right that the State protects. Not being subjected to medical treatment is. So not even an analogy.
        
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        June 25, 2022 1:55pm
      - gump
        
        Firstly you don’t know what ‘bifurcating’ means. Using impressive looking words doesn’t make an argument more credible – and this is especially true when they’re used incorrectly.
        
        All regulation necessarily divides populations into groups. This is not apartheid and its offensive that you’re making the comparison. Apartheid is a particular form of tyranny that discriminates against groups of people on the basis of factors that they did not choose and can not change. Refusing to vaccinate is a choice that you can easily change.
        
        As for your claim that my analogy is fatuous, it’s an example of regulation being required to balance conflicting rights. Driver licensing places a restriction on our rights to freedom of movement. This restriction is justified because an unregulated freedom of movement conflicts with the rights of other road users to travel safely.
        
        Vaccination mandates are similarly justified because the right to refuse a vaccination comes into conflict with the rights of other people who don’t want to be exposed to an avoidable illness. Refusing a covid vaccine is equivalent to refusing to obtain a driving license – they’re both choices that impose limits on activities that you could otherwise undertake.
        
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        June 25, 2022 2:19pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Refusing to vaccinate is a choice that you can easily change.
        
        Let me explain why your analogy is inappropriate.
        
        Once I have been vaccinated by the Pfizer vaccine, I cannot become unvaccinated.
        
        But if I have a licence to drive a car, I can choose not to use that licence and I can have that licence removed by the State.
        
        But now we have discovered that being vaccinated against Covid doesn’t prevent me from getting infection and doesn’t prevent me from transmitting the disease if I am infected.
        
        I’ve been lied to about the efficacy and value of the mandated vaccine.
        
        In contrast, I was given a pretty thorough testing of my driving skills (failed first time) before I was granted a driving licence…and my vision is regularly checked.
        
        I choose not to drive at night as my vision is not great.
        I will make a similar decision when my day vision deteriorates.
        
        I got bugga all choice about when I was to receive my 2 vaxxes before the mandates came into force.
        
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        June 25, 2022 6:27pm
- oldfella
  
  blue collar: good article (behind a paywall) in today’s horrid.
  Steven Joyce: Three Waters a tipping point for disillusioned provincial NZ
  There’s the not so small matter of the Government confiscating the water assets communities have built up over generations.
  In the beginning, ministers tried to tell locals that these were hardly assets because they were expensive to maintain. On that basis you shouldn’t build a playground, or even own a home. Now they have taken to saying the community will still own the assets and pay for them, only locals will have no control over them at all. That’s not ownership.
  Finally, there is the accountability issue. Few in the regions are under any illusion that the convoluted spaghetti of governance arrangements has been set up to suit Labour’s Māori caucus and pretty much no-one else.
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/steven-joyce-three-waters-a-tipping-point-for-disillusioned-provincial-nz/5D2HYYE3RUMTFGEPXXY25GZXNQ/
  
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  June 25, 2022 11:31am
  - blue collar
    
    Cheers old fella !
    Bring back Joyce !
    
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    June 25, 2022 1:08pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  That is the plan – leave a total disaster like the previous 5 times.
  
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  June 25, 2022 12:36pm
blue collar

If stuff and herald are WHORES available for rent with a 55 million price tag ….. then why don’t we crowd find or find wealthy investors to pay these PROSTITUTES and control the narrative ?
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June 25, 2022 10:17am
- ClanMcleod
  
  We have to use real money. Brenda can print unlimited amounts without negative consequences…….//
  
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  June 25, 2022 10:26am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    No sarc there!
    
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    June 25, 2022 12:37pm
MCōs

It seems Winston Peters & Brian Tamaki are talking about amalgamating their political parties.
Maybe they should ask the Internet Party if they want to join?
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June 25, 2022 10:30am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

” I have information that will lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton”
Roe _ Vs _ Wade.

From FB. Savage!
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June 25, 2022 10:33am
- Nickc2
  
  Explanation required.
  
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  June 25, 2022 10:39am
  - MCōs
    
    The explanation is Mr O has been predictably predicting the imminent arrest of Mrs C for any number of outrageous crimes ever since Trump first told him to.
    
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    June 25, 2022 12:16pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    It was on my FB. It means that someone is falsely using the name of Roe v Wade so Killary will dispose of R v W, in the same ways as her past.
    Hence the comment ‘savage’
    Friend in Alaska shared it.
    
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    June 25, 2022 12:44pm
    - Nickc2
      
      TKS, got it.
      
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      June 25, 2022 7:27pm
Maggie Pie

Had to larf to myself earlier 😀

Overheard my partner on the phone saying…..
“You need to pity all those poor bast*rds who are short this morning”

Then I realised later of course he was actually talking about the Dow.
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June 25, 2022 10:35am
Maggie Pie

TRENDING

A bestie from tennis retweets…..

‘As much as I can’t stand the ponce, I actually find myself agreeing with him’

https://twitter.com/NZClarke/status/1540422658214731776
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June 25, 2022 10:55am
- Nukuleka
  
  Don’t you frequently tell us about attending Mass, Maggie? Maybe you’re as Catholic as Biden and Pelosi. That is, a hypocritical one.
  
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  June 25, 2022 11:47am
  - MCōs
    
    Somewhere in the order of 22% of Americans are Catholics. Therefore 78% aren’t.
    The Catholic Church has all manner of rules and regulations which seem to vary depending on your point of view. Some seem to think the Mass should still be in Latin. Hard liners don’t believe in contraception. Eating meat on Friday was a no no once. Women can’t have any positions of real power.
    The NZ branch is particularly liberal, I believe.
    I would suggest far from 100% of Catholics in the US believe they have the right to tell everyone else how they live their lives.
    How would one of those judges feel if they got to face their maker and he/she said ‘Sorry, Justice, the Jews are right on that one.’
    
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    June 25, 2022 2:27pm
- blue collar
  
  It has nothing to do with women .
  Vote for whoever runs on pro abortion , and nothing changes . If all women do this in each state it’s guaranteed to not change .
  Many men , myself included would vote pro abortion .
  So where’s the problem ?
  Gaylord is a leech .
  It’s about federal vs state law . Not women
  
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  June 25, 2022 1:13pm
Flossie

I am sure I do not want to know what Neve’s birthday cake looks like, nor do I care who made it.
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June 25, 2022 11:11am
- oldfella
  
  Flossie, you will be made to care about Neve’s cake. The same way you will be made to care about Matariki. Resistance is futile. //
  
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  June 25, 2022 11:33am
- cas
  
  I am sure Neve didn’t ask for a ladybird cake. I am sure Mummy opened the cake recipe book and showed her the pictures and she picked it out. A bit different I would have thought.
  
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  June 25, 2022 2:36pm
- Nickc2
  
  Who gives a fuck (who cares)?
  
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  June 25, 2022 7:38pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Facebook – Boaters for Trump Group, sharing comment by Trump.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/545491349667859/permalink/1063253047891684/
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June 25, 2022 11:34am
kevn

@Flossie… Polls down, bring out junior. Again.
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June 25, 2022 11:34am
obonekenobe

Has anyone caught up with (or care about) the new rules coming 1 July in Wellington re non-smoking in bars?

Apparently it is now to be banned in the outside (open air) portions that adjoin the street.

Surely not a health risk to others – just another step from WCC in telling us how to live our lives.(disclosure – I am a social (when drinking) smoker)
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June 25, 2022 11:45am
- blue collar
  
  Will never work . I smoke , can tell ya right now good luck to anyone trying to stop us when on the piss .
  Wellington …. That council needs a clean out .
  
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  June 25, 2022 3:20pm
oldfella

The govt should be well pleased with its investment in/bribery of our local media, which produced some truly awful Matariki headlines. Feel free to add your own favourites… ///

Matariki a chance for all New Zealanders to ‘see our privilege and look after it’

Matariki kai: Where to fill your puku in Tāmaki Makaurau over the weekend

Matariki holiday ‘a gesture on the journey to healing’ after a lifetime of disconnection

(And this gem from Neve’s cake baker…)
Matariki Day: An historic moment that ‘unites us under the stars of Aotearoa’
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June 25, 2022 11:49am
- I remember when
  
  Once Matariki was in full use what did they do with the rest of the stars (heavenly bodies).
  
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  June 25, 2022 12:28pm
I remember when

Worst time to buy a house in 67 years due to house price inflation.
Was the desire to kerb house price rises tempered by the desire to print more money.
The increases inflated our national asset value to print against.
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June 25, 2022 12:01pm
- I remember when
  
  Okay, should be 65 years. Just practising my political license.
  
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  June 25, 2022 12:12pm
Maggie Pie

PONDER THIS….

Five old men who will never conceive, made a decision on what will happen to the women of America.
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June 25, 2022 12:02pm
- Rodion Raskolnikov
  
  Now that “men can become pregnant”, the argument that men shouldn’t have a say about reproduction would seem to have exposed a contradiction.
  
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  June 25, 2022 12:17pm
  - I remember when
    
    How will any babies be classified – for sporting purposes.
    
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    June 25, 2022 12:25pm
- virtualmark
  
  Men gonna be forking out a lot more child support payments …
  
  Oh, and one of the five was a woman. Amy Coney Barrett. Who literally served in a role in the Catholic Church titled “handmaiden”.
  
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  June 25, 2022 12:30pm
- MCōs
  
  One of them is a woman, Amy Coney Barret. She’s a Catholic with seven children, two of whom are adopted. Chances are she would never have contemplated a life where more kids would be an problem.
  
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  June 25, 2022 1:17pm
- blue collar
  
  Wrong . Each state will … not 5 old men ….. Carn Maggie , I love your posts but you’ve got this all wrong .
  
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  June 25, 2022 1:19pm
  - Ohm my
    
    I agree, it’s an excellent, democratic decision.
    
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    June 25, 2022 1:37pm
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    The men responsible will all deny culpability.
    
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    June 25, 2022 9:48pm
- Ehlana
  
  Isn’t that how abortion got legalised in the US in the first place?
  
  Seems to me the Americans have had decades to do what every other Western country has managed – that it, for the voters to decide by election and/or referendum how they want to manage this matter.
  
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  June 25, 2022 1:59pm
- cjn
  
  The five old men may have had many an input into a pregnancy. Don’t be a misogynist. Pregnancies affect both sexes. The Supreme Court Justices don’t do biology in their job which is to read the Constitution.
  
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  June 25, 2022 5:07pm
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    So they are not responsible for the women who will die in consequence of their decision. Nice.
    
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    June 25, 2022 9:54pm
- Bluegrass
  
  Dear lady – that might be a killer Twitter hit, but this blog is not Twitter (thank God) and accordingly might I suggest that before trespassing into areas of US constitutional law you consider educating yourself (just a teensy bit) about the separation of powers and the role of SCOTUS, re abortion.
  
  SCOTUS rules on the US Constitution. It does not nor should not not make public policy.
  
  And in this jurisprudential context the original Roe decision was actually ultra vires in declaring all states’ abortion restrictions illegal.
  
  The current SCOTUS ruling has merely re-asserted the Constitution on this topic and has returned thee abortion issue to the individual US states.
  
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  June 26, 2022 11:25pm
I remember when

When considering the building of cycleways is it essential we designate what the intended use will be.
Is it transport to work, to advance physical wellbeing (okay fitness), or is it to allow leisure activites.
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June 25, 2022 12:06pm
- Parnell Gun Club
  
  The primary purpose of cycleways is to inconvenience and frustrate motorists.
  
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  June 25, 2022 12:28pm
  - MCōs
    
    When I used to commute to work by way of a bicycle the motorists were an often dangerous inconvenience on the roads. Particularly going down the Ngaio Gorge road at 50 kph (the speed limit) with cars trying to overtake.
    From my place to work there wasn’t one inch of cycleway.
    
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    June 25, 2022 1:28pm
    - alloytoo
      
      How many inches did you pay for?
      
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      June 25, 2022 7:29pm
- cjn
  
  Or is it to get the bikes off the road. (My preferred option.) Thanks CCC
  
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  June 25, 2022 5:09pm
- mawm
  
  Probably to allow cyclist to be safe. Do we designate which motorists are to use a particular road?
  
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  June 25, 2022 6:36pm
trout

So Ganesh Nana (and his Leftist Board) are doing an ‘Adrian Orr’ to the Productivity Commission (ref: Herald today). Highly qualified staff are leaving in droves, refusing to work within ideological constraints imposed by the Labour Government. Forget objective analysis; top level appointments are being made according to their willingness to buy into Govt. policy. Simon Power’s reign at TVNZ will be shortlived now that Willy Jackson is able to pull the strings. Probably appoint some one like Simon Wilson, an indefatigable defender of Government policy and unashamed Ardern sycophant.
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June 25, 2022 12:07pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  The most obvious means to improve productivity in NZ is to vote this govt out and then get rid of all their woke regulations and practices (as a start to improving things). De-Reoing the civil service would save a huge amount of time wasting for a start.
  
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  June 25, 2022 3:40pm
- artemisia
  
  According to the Herald article today (paywalled). No wonder that the smart ones took off, knowing they would never be able to do, or even understand, their jobs.
  
  When Nana introduced himself to staff at the commission offices in December, 2020, before taking up his new post, he vowed to usher in a new approach to understanding productivity that did away with the old models, and to do better at providing work aimed at raising up the dispossessed.
  
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  June 25, 2022 5:11pm
  - alloytoo
    
    Is “dispossessed” the correct word, were the people he’s referred to ever “possessed” (in a non-spiritual sense)?
    
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    June 25, 2022 7:32pm
RRM

Hosting/catering Miss Teen’s 18th birthday sleepover party. Apparently one of the male guests who got dropped off by his mommy dearest was overheard saying words to the effect of “Miss RRM’s stepdad (that’s yours truly) isn’t very manly…” interestingly enough I wasn’t in the room at the time. After I took the young kids home, apparently he was looking for my help to get the top off his cheap ebay cocktail shaker… His mommy dearest thought we were going to spend $300 on exotic liqueurs for cocktails so he could dress up as the barman for the evening and be the star of the show.

Bless their spoilt entitled, weak little hearts. 🙂

This morning I’m back at the house taking a break from all that, and our neighbor seems to be Mr Fixit for the local Chev community. Today is day 2 of a project to get his friend’s 80s Camaro with straight pipes running right. When he drove in Friday morning it was idling on about 6 cylinders. After a whole day of the two of them standing around it watching it make noise with the bonnet up, by yesterday evening it was down to about 3 cylinders firing and needed constant throttle stabs like a racing lotus Cortina on webers to keep it alive.
Today they seem to have it back up to about 6 or 7 cylinders firing, and it almost idles. Should have bought a Ford?

I might have to get the mighty 2 stroke brush cutter out for some action this afternoon when they stop for a cuppa tea.

Happy Matariki everyone! 🤡🤡🤡
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June 25, 2022 12:37pm
Maggie Pie

Must say my partner’s mum never misses a beat 😀

She was just telling us she heard a Maori spokeswoman from Tamiki Makarau on ZB, saying the best way for Aucklanders to view the ‘Matariki Star Cluster’, would be for all households and businesses, to switch off their lights between 8 & midnight, so the city is in complete darkness.

Ma reckons it sounded to her like nothing more than an old ruse!
It would mean the gangs having open-slater to go round and heist everything.
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June 25, 2022 1:20pm
- MCōs
  
  I don’t bother to look skywards with any hope of seeing even the moon on most Auckland nights.
  When I was a kid we had a hut at the mouth of the Rangitata and the sky was chokka full of stars.
  Sometimes we stayed up at the RSA hut at Lake Alexandrina, next to Lake Tekapo.
  That is even more spectacular on a clear night.
  Some Seventh Day Adventists button holed Mum once at home in Timaru. They asked her what her idea of paradise was.
  She said ‘Lake Alex with my kids.’
  Those bible bashers knew when they were beat; went away and never came back again.
  
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  June 25, 2022 1:45pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Some Seventh Day Adventists button-holed Green list MP Ricardo March once at home in Auckland. They asked him if he’d like to know Jesus?
    
    Ricardo replied, “I already do. He’s my boyfriend”
    
    😛 😎
    
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    June 25, 2022 2:15pm
    - CommanderC
      
      Oh Maggie you are very naughty today
      
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      June 25, 2022 4:08pm
Tony Stuart

Interesting that New Zealand’s Foreign Minister has rushed to social media with her opinion on the US Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe versus Wade:

Nanaia Mahuta @NanaiaMahuta
The US Supreme Courts overturning of Roe v. Wade Is draconian and does not support the right of women to choice. How can this happen?

https://twitter.com/NanaiaMahuta/status/1540416982696460288

What makes this interesting and noteworthy is that when New Zealand last had a significant abortion debate, March 2020, Nanaia Mahuta voted AGAINST abortion being decriminalised. Where was her concern for “draconian” laws then, and “the right of women to choice”?

Pardon me Ms Mahuta, but your double standards are showing.
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June 25, 2022 1:26pm
- Tony Stuart
  
  Here are the results of that 2020 vote:
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/how-mps-voted-on-abortion-law-reform/WV4JCWZTSB4PFZFHTFUTDFUC64/
  
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  June 25, 2022 1:26pm
- cmm
  
  Cindy is incredibly upset. What a childish emotion.
  
  If they’re going to be upset you think they’d do so over public executions etc and the terrible things that go on in more primitive countries.
  
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  June 25, 2022 1:45pm
  - mandk
    
    Ardern is the lowest of the low in my book.
    
    She’s upset over a ruling that doesn’t actually ban abortion.
    
    Still, it’s what you would expect from someone who thinks it is OK to kill a full term baby.
    
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    June 25, 2022 3:07pm
- Gravelroad
  
  That was then – this is now.
  For left wing politicians, principles are ever changing – depending on who is in power at the time.
  Trump bad.
  Biden good.
  Change views to suit.
  
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  June 25, 2022 1:54pm
- Ehlana
  
  Why is the Foreign Minister of New Zealand commenting on a US Court decision? Isn’t that blatant interference in the internal affairs of another nation?
  
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  June 25, 2022 2:02pm
  - Tony Stuart
    
    You would have thought so…
    
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    June 25, 2022 2:30pm
  - Flossie
    
    Just following her leader…
    
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    June 25, 2022 3:18pm
  - fernglas
    
    Not a very good command of English, either. Draconian referes to harsh or oppressive laws being imposed. The Supreme Court decision merely abolishes an existing law and creates the opportunity for US states to pass Draconian laws.
    
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    June 25, 2022 4:51pm
  - Prince
    
    This must be a ‘more sophisticated’ form of Foreign Policy.
    
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    June 25, 2022 10:55pm
- kowtow
  
  “How can this happen?”
  
  She’s not at all bright , is she .
  
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  June 25, 2022 2:41pm
  - mawm
    
    That is probably the truest comment about Ardern ever.
    
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    June 25, 2022 6:42pm
Tom Hunter

Heh. Brilliant stuff from Powerline…:

When YOU leave the White House, YOU can note on YOUR résumé that YOU instructed the leader of the free world what to do to make it through his day. In order to do the job, YOU had to put YOURSELF in his place and imagine the level of detail he required. YOU learned that he required a level of detail befitting an elderly gentleman who is losing his faculties. YOU had to tell him to sit down in his seat or he might remain standing — or sit in someone else’s seat.

YOU won’t want to note that YOU performed the job at some personal sacrifice. YOU worried that YOU would be blamed when he failed to follow YOUR instructions. YOU dreamed that you forgot to capitalize YOU and YOUR. YOU began to lose YOUR mind. YOU concluded that it was time to move on.
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June 25, 2022 1:27pm
Maggie Pie

What is it about they/them/it… with purple hair? 😀 😀 😀

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1540473889737781248
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June 25, 2022 1:40pm
- Inandout
  
  Only a birthing person could love it Maggie.
  
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  June 25, 2022 2:09pm
Jack5

Woke lawyer bites the dust …

Phil Shiner, the British human rights lawyer who persecuted British veterans of the Iraq war, has been charged with fraud over claims against the soldiers.

Shiner was once voted “human rights lawyer of the year” as he launched cases against British veterans on behalf of Iraqi civilians who were allegedly victims of UK soldiers’ brutality.

He now faces three charges of fraud following a five-year investigation by Britain’s National Crime Agency.

The UK Solicitors Regulation Authority in 2017 “struck off” Shiner, who is now 65, for pursuing false torture and murder allegations against British troops.

The Telegraph reports Shiner brought thousands of criminal complaints to the Iraq Historic Investigations Team, a body set up by the Ministry of Defence to investigate soldiers. Not a single one was ever charged and the team was shut down in 2017 and branded an “unmitigated failure”.

You have to wonder whether Shiner’s lies helped spark innuendo and then inquiries about New Zealand troops’ action abroad, with, for example, NZ media teams going to Afghanistan to interview locals about allegations against NZ soldiers.
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June 25, 2022 2:02pm
- kowtow
  
  Why would anyone join the British military given how badly they are treated by their own brass , politicians and media.
  
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  June 25, 2022 2:37pm
Ehlana

Fascinating number of people remarking on Twitter about how the Left has suddenly remembered what a woman is.
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June 25, 2022 2:05pm
tavita

Today the Padma multi-purpose bridge opens in Bangladesh. 6.15 km long with 3.15 km of approach viaducts, it has cost around 6 billion NZD. The project manager is ex Wanganui High School.
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June 25, 2022 2:12pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Who?
  
  (I’m ex-WHS, 1966-70)
  
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  June 25, 2022 6:50pm
  - tavita
    
    Robert Aves. He would have been a few years before you. I was there 60-64.
    
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    June 25, 2022 9:58pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      He was School Dux in 1967
      
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      June 26, 2022 1:26pm
Master Mariner

Happy International Day of the Seafarer.
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June 25, 2022 2:55pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  Ity was Happy at Sea from the 60s to the 90s when I was at sea. Not any more,
  
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  June 25, 2022 6:25pm
  - Master Mariner
    
    Still some shenanigans to be had.
    
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    June 25, 2022 8:45pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Democrats and RINOs are getting desperately desperate. Cheney wants Democrats to become Republicans, so they can vote for her in the Primaries! I kid you not. Thing is, she lives in Virginia, not Wyoming.
https://dailypatriotreport.com/desperate-cheney-is-begging-dems-to-switch-parties-vote-for-her-in-gop-primary/
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June 25, 2022 3:01pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Starting to wonder how many NINOs in National?
  NINO, National In Name Only.
  
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  June 25, 2022 3:03pm
- mawm
  
  Does she not see the irony of standing on a Republican ticket but having to get Democrats to vote for her?
  
  I repeat what I have said before – anybody who wishes to become a politician should never be allowed to be one.
  
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  June 25, 2022 6:52pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Cheney is a RINO
    
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    June 26, 2022 9:35am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Joe Biden to Michael Wirth, the CEO of Chevron.
“I didn’t know they’d get their feelings hurt that quickly. Look, we need more refining capacity. This idea that they don’t have oil to drill and to bring up is simply not true.”
Well Joe, it is all there and you have the means – but you fucked it just like Trump predicted you would.
https://libertymass.com/oil-companies-come-to-biden-with-solutions-only-find-mockery/
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June 25, 2022 3:10pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Given realistic projection of EV growth we are still going to need a lot of oil for decades to come, and we need grownup politicians to be planning for that drawn-out transition (that is now economically inevitable) rather than trying to score virtue signalling points that lead to underinvestment, mothballing, and consequent ridiculously high prices:
  https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2022/06/reviewing-ev-sales-forecasts-from-2016-for-2022.html#more-176207
  
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  June 25, 2022 4:27pm
NoFax

Moloch is unhappy.
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June 25, 2022 4:15pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  As Prue from tennis says……”The simplest answer of course is to just have him wear a condom and don’t engage in degenerate and promiscuous sex”.
  
  How hard can it be?
  
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  June 25, 2022 6:19pm
  - Bluegrass
    
    As Mae West said – it’s hard to be good but it’s good to be hard.
    
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    June 25, 2022 7:26pm
  - blue collar
    
    Well the prues of this world are all sensible … Until drunk … 😁 and that makes lady chatterlys lover Perennially relevant 👌
    
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    June 25, 2022 10:40pm
Tauhei Notts

Yesterday I sought solace in the Concert Programme.
I was driving 200 km and RNZ National was full of the wonderfulness of Matariki Day.
So, being a horse racing fan I noted that on Matariki Day there was only one race meeting in our country. Between Ruakaka in the north and Riverton in the south there are many racing clubs. But only one of them is a Maori racing club, viz Otaki. The sole race meeting was at Otaki and in their naming of races on Matariki Day that Maori racing club showed the respect for Matariki Day that it deserves. None of the races yesterday commemorated the greatest day in Maori history. NONE of them.
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June 25, 2022 6:46pm
- Loddenthinks
  
  Good point well made. But the greatest day in Maori history was when young Nick spotted the east coast of the North Island and shouted “Land-ho!”
  
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  June 26, 2022 12:50pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Potentially (def.): Adv. with the capacity to develop or happen in the future.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300621870/woman-potentially-stabbed-to-death-in-christchurch-two-men-arrested

How can you be potentially stabbed to death?

Does the reporter mean… possibly?
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June 25, 2022 7:04pm
- Colville
  
  What chance it’s a father/brother combo in a “honour ” issue?
  
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  June 25, 2022 7:19pm
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    Colville, sometimes I am a bit naughty and run a book. Your chance is paying $1.45. If it was in South Auckland the odds would be about $2.75, or even higher.
    
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    June 25, 2022 7:55pm
- greybeard
  
  Come on Maggy: how good were you at spelling and grammar when YOU were 12 ?
  
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  June 25, 2022 9:00pm
Bluegrass

Roe v Wade: SCOTUS has removed abortion from Federal jurisdiction and returned it to the individual US states.

Democracy and states’ rights in action.

What’s not to like?
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June 25, 2022 7:30pm
- Rich Prick
  
  The left is going mental. California has already declared they will be an abortion holiday destination State.
  
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  June 25, 2022 11:02pm
Rich Prick

Our silly little girl has weighed in:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/129080107/pm-jacinda-ardern-slams-us-abortion-ruling-but-chris-luxon-avoids-reaction

1) The US constitution does not confer a right to abortion. Google it.
2) If it’s not a Constitution/Federal matter, it’s a matter for each State to vote on as the electors see fit.
3) You really are a stupid little girl, with no grasp of anything beyond Neve’s birthday cake.
4) You’re an embarrassment.
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