Is he trying to be funny?

April 29th, 2009 at 10:36 am by David Farrar

NewstalkZB reports:

Mr Goff says the person who should be most grateful for the legacy left by is the current Finance Minister .

Oh yes, Bill gets up every morning I am sure and says to Mary “Boy am I glad Michael Cullen left me a structural $10 billion a year deficit”.

He gets in to work and tells his staff “Think how boring our job would be if Dr Cullen had not increased spending by $4.5 billion a year in his last budget”.

At Cabinet every week Bill reminds his colleagues of how good a legacy Dr Cullen left them, as he screws them departmental budgets down.

Goff should do stand up comedy if he really said that with a straight face.

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28 Responses to “Is he trying to be funny?”

  1. Ryan Sproull (6,661 comments) says:

    Oh, like the guy with the $10 billion annual deficit should be thanking the guy with the $4.5 billion spending increase? Come on!

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  2. garethw (205 comments) says:

    Was it actually $4.5billion a YEAR? Or in total across the budget?

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  3. racer (258 comments) says:

    I presume he is referring to all the debt that Cullen paid off, but I suspect you all know that already and are going to conveniently ignore it.

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  4. Jack5 (4,231 comments) says:

    If the NZ economy was a finance company, Cullen would have changed his name and moved to the Gold Coast.

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  5. Kimble (4,095 comments) says:

    Of course he should thank Cullen.

    How hard is it to follow that act?

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  6. getstaffed (9,188 comments) says:

    racer, before you get too dewy-eyed about Cullen using our money to pay his debts… would you care to comment on this observation from JC the other day.

    Lets clear away some of the crap about paying down debt by the much admired Cullen.
    During the 1990s Richardson and Birch reduced the national debt from $60 billion to $28 billion off a GDP around $100 billion. Thats despite the shambles they faced when they took over, the two big droughts of 1997/98 and the two to three years Asian crisis.

    Cullen reduced the debt from $28 billion to $22 billion off a GDP of $185 billion during the best economic times in a generation.

    (Figures are approximate and taken from Treasury PREFUs and media statements)

    JC

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  7. aardvark (417 comments) says:

    This is the problem with our crazy system of adversarial politics.

    The “opposition” take their name far too seriously and, instead of working for the best interest of the country, too often simply work to oppose the actions of the government of the day.

    Cullen’s final budget was a perfect example of this — “if we can’t keep the reins of power then we’ll stuff it up for the next government” was clearly their goal.

    What the hell is wrong with getting rid of gang-politics and focusing on what’s best for NZ?

    Let’s drop the ideologically driven political gangs and return to a quorum of elected representatives who understand what they are elected to do (ie: represent voters, not toe the party line).

    Surely that’s what democracy ought to be about?

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  8. Kimble (4,095 comments) says:

    “I presume he is referring to all the debt that Cullen paid off…”

    As any National Finance Minister would have done in the same position. In fact, Cullen simply carried on the work started by National. Besides, that was part of his early, more reasonable years as FM. He screwed up his legacy in his later years.

    His poison pill budget alone is enough to erradicate any other good work he did.

    He screwed over New Zealand out of spite. Fuck him.

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  9. Rakaia George (313 comments) says:

    “Trying to be funny?” – no, it appears to come naturally to the poor bloke…

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  10. getstaffed (9,188 comments) says:

    aardvark – completely agree. with a new notable exceptions, politics has always been about personal power, not about advancing the best interests of those being governed.

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  11. Inventory2 (9,791 comments) says:

    From Audrey Young on Budget Day 2008

    http://blogs.nzherald.co.nz/blog/audrey-young/2008/5/22/be-filed/

    The money quote is this:

    “Phil Goff’s revealing comments this week showed that Labour is into legacy politics and this is a legacy Budget – a legacy to National. It will make it harder for National to win and if it does win, it will make it harder to govern.”

    Make your own judgment.

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  12. racer (258 comments) says:

    “getstaffed

    racer, before you get too dewy-eyed about Cullen using our money to pay his debts…”

    So long as the figures are accurate (and I don’t have time to check them sorry) then no problem, but we are still better off for the debt that Cullen paid off.

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  13. Bevan (3,965 comments) says:

    So long as the figures are accurate (and I don’t have time to check them sorry) then no problem, but we are still better off for the debt that Cullen paid off.

    All wiped out by the debt levels the legacy of his last budget will leave us.

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  14. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    Sounds like Philin needs a bit of electroconvulsive shock treatment and it probably wouldn’t hurt to give his mate Racer a few volts while they are at it. It’s obvious the drugs are not strong enough anymore, sad deluded individuals.

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  15. getstaffed (9,188 comments) says:

    but we are still better off for the debt that Cullen paid off.

    racer – would you be happy to be eaten by a shark if it had nice clean teeth? FFS, repaying $6b debt over a decade is irrelevant in the light of the money he squandered on his continuous ideological burps… which have left future generations with a need for increased indebtedness to the tune of $40b.

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  16. Murray M (455 comments) says:

    Is there anyone out there who have actually spoken personally to Goff. If so, is he really as thick as he comes across?

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  17. RightNow (6,350 comments) says:

    racer, Cullen failed by only paying such a piddly amount in the circumstances. The fact that all the lefties keep repeating the line about how much debt Cullen paid off only proves how foolish they are.

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  18. garethw (205 comments) says:

    This seems as good a place to ask – what exactly did the increased spending in the 08 Budget go to? This supposed $4.5billion a year? Any reports from the time seem 100% focussed on the tax cut.
    Considering they seem to have been so misguided, why haven’t National simply reversed them?

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  19. wreck1080 (3,533 comments) says:

    The government was earning a ton of cash on the back of an economic boom.

    Even a monkey could have kept government debt down.

    They should have known that income levels were unsustainable, and could easily go into reverse.

    Instead of anticipating this, and spending the cash on things that improve productivity the govt went on a spending spree. They increased their staff numbers and salary levels. It was pigs in the trough for civil servants and commercial government suppliers.

    Helen and Cullen are directly responsible for the mess we are in now. And, remind me again, why was she the greatest leader?

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  20. Auberon (820 comments) says:

    He’s a hoot, that’s what he is!

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  21. dad4justice (7,406 comments) says:

    Helen is our greatest economy wrecker, far worse than Helen of Troy! Kullen and her should be in a cellblock now!~!

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  22. gd (2,286 comments) says:

    aardvark For some years Ive suggested we should ban political parties and gangs as both cause society trouble.

    We should have independent Members representing the people of their electorate and going to the Parliament toargue for the best outcome of both their electors and for the country.

    What we have is a shambles of governance where parties are more interested in the power for powers sake than they are in doing the right thing for the citizens

    Is it any wonder that MPs rate at the bottom of the list of those the citizens trust and respect.

    These political gangs perpertrate much harm on the citizens make bad decisions and waste most of the funds they take from the citizens.

    And because the Parties come and go from power they are a moving target and have no long term committment to the citizens and so cant and wont be held effectively accountable

    If a household ran its financial affairs like the politicans run the countries the household would be bankrupt but of course governments have always got the sucker tax payers to bail them out.

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  23. NoCash (232 comments) says:

    We won, they lost, eat that!

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  24. bwakile (757 comments) says:

    Being a comedian is the only thing Goff has left going for him.

    He is single handedly presiding on the self destruction of Labour but to be fair to him every other potential leader would have done exactly the same. As was pointed out the other day, Clark and Cullen parked the Labour Party and sadly our economy in a Cul de Sac. It was only ever going to turn into a No Exit for Goof.

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  25. bka (133 comments) says:

    # garethw (9) Vote: Add rating 0 Subtract rating 0 Says:
    April 29th, 2009 at 10:48 am

    Was it actually $4.5billion a YEAR? Or in total across the budget?

    If you look here: http://www.treasury.govt.nz/budget/forecasts/befu2008/befu08-pt4of9.pdf
    core Crown spending goes from 57,364 billion to 61,883 from 08 to 09.

    The increase in spending presumably doesn’t include the 2008 Budget tax cuts package which would affect incoming revenue not spending.
    Here: http://www.treasury.govt.nz/publications/informationreleases/budget/2008/pdfs/b08-cabmin08-18-17.pdf it says the drop in revenue for the 08/09 year was forecast to be 1,343 billion allowing for more money coming in from gst etc.

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  26. lyndon (330 comments) says:

    Perhaps Goff meant Cullen looks better than the people who were demanding he stop running surpluses during an economic boom?

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  27. Seamonkey Madness (328 comments) says:

    “So long as the figures are accurate (and I don’t have time to check them sorry)”

    Sounds like something Cullen would say…

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  28. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,787 comments) says:

    If Phil Goff is trying to be funny then National provided the punch line with “Me too”.

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