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Hone has really screwed more than just himself.
It will interesting to see now what happens about the harbour bridge and the maori lag – because the Tino flag came from a competition run (for a better flag of protest) , and I think judged, by one Hone Harawira.
So not only is this flag one of protest – it is now the flag someone who thinks some 70% of the population are raping motherfuckers………..
The maori party must be really pissed off with him
But Maori Party co-vice president and retired judge Heta Hingston appeared to defended Harawira yesterday, and argued his day trip to Paris was just “bad timing”. from the herald. Looks like nothing will happen to him because the party leaders are defending his irresponsible behavior. He went to Europe for a purpose on taxpayers money. He could have stopped off in Pakeha Paris on the way home but decided to lie. The Maori Party has no mana.
The rapist cometh. No not the whiteman but his servants. All you “rich Pricks” Bill and the Dunny are about to visit you enclaves.
Taxman to set sights on top bosses
By SUSAN PEPPERELL – Sunday Star Times
Last updated 05:00 08/11/2009
The IRD is turning its sights on the country’s top earners, as the recession leaves a gaping hole in the government’s tax take.
This year, for the the first time, the tax department has sent questionnaires to some of the country’s biggest companies demanding details of the salary and perks of its three highest-earning staff. Top executives in New Zealand earn as much as $7 million a year, attracting tax bills in the millions of dollars. The questionnaire asks for details of all the perks and non-cash benefits of employment contracts.
The IRD focus on executive high-fliers comes hot on the heels of the department’s huge court victories against Westpac and Bank of New Zealand, which must now pay $918m and $645m to the IRD respectively in taxes and penalties.
The most common perks for top execs include cars, share options, bonuses, superannuation and sports club memberships. But there are more gold-plated versions, such as those in Telecom boss Paul Reynolds’ contract.
His package for the year to June 2009 was worth $7.1m, and included a base salary of $1.75m plus a $1.75m annual performance incentive. Telecom is also paying for Scottish-born Reynolds and his family to travel business class between New Zealand and the UK for his first three years in the job (he took over in September 2007) and giving him accommodation costs of $100,000 for the first two years. His salary package also includes $20,000 towards legal advice on his contract and $6000 for tax advice.
The spotlight on CEO pay is part of IRD’s new “compliance focus” document released in June, which spelt out where it will be placing greater scrutiny in the coming year.
There about 4500 large businesses in New Zealand with an annual turnover of more than $100m. The questionnaires ask companies to disclose the non-cash percentage of executive packages for the last three financial years, details of share options, superannuation contributions and non-cash benefits of more than $10,000 per year.
IRD says the new focus comes because many top bosses’ salary packages are complex and have been identified as an area of “potential risk”, where the appropriate tax may be overlooked or misinterpreted.
In other words, IRD appears to be looking at extracting more money from areas that have previously remained under its radar, and in extracting the right level of tax from the non-cash parts of executive pay packages.
But tax experts say putting these high-value taxpayers in the gun may also be connected to the recession, and suggest the IRD is trying to claw back some of the huge drop in tax income in the past year.
A Treasury report out last week showed the government accounts for the first three months of this financial year were far worse than forecast. The deficit for the three months to September 30 was $2 billion, or 77% worse than forecast in the May Budget. Lower corporate tax revenue was pinpointed as the main contributor to the higher deficit.
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“Unemployment is up which means the PAYE take is down,” says specialist tax expert Greg Harris, of Deloitte, and meanwhile “spending is down, which means that revenue from GST is down. IRD seems to beefing up its interest in areas it hasn’t looked at before, partly in response to the recession”.
Harris says there has long been confusion surrounding executive salaries. While PAYE and fringe benefit tax was easily identified, it was trickier to work out exactly what tax was owed on share options and bonuses.
Martin Scott, group manager assurance for IRD, says so far about 100 executive pay questionnaires have been sent out.
IRD emphasises in a letter that accompanies each questionnaire that the responses will not necessarily lead to a company audit, but instead will form part of its “risk assessment”. However, the compliance focus document states results “will be evaluated against supporting information and analysis”. That may then lead to specific reviews.
Harris described IRD’s approach this year as far more targeted than in previous years. “In the past, everyone expected to be audited every five years, but it was inconsistent and random. This is a far more consistent approach.”
Harawira could murder 50 white people and still his scumbag maori party and scumbag hanger on’s would run to his defence
We should be out protesting in droves..but no..bend over a little further NZ…take it a bit more up the arse from the racist party..and keep smiling…wheres Kyle Chapman when ya need him…
As a parent and former teacher I am right behind the Government’s introduction of National Standards.
Sure the system will need some tweaking as it goes along, but the principle is sound. So much so that
it is a suprise to me that it hasn’t always been in place!
God forbid that parents may actually have access to information telling them how their children are doing?
Or receive plain language reports that make recommendations as to how parents can help their children at home?
It’s about time that our primary school teachers realised that their job is to teach children. FULL STOP
Most parents receive more quality information about their children’s cereal that they purchase at the supermarket than on how their children are doing at school.
And I don’t mean all the PC reports that come home, pages upon pages that tell you nothing, because the teachers don’t want to look bad. I know a teacher (an excellent new entrants teacher) who told me her school has set phrases and language they can use on reports and when she mistakenly told the truth, was asked to re-write the reports by the school’s principal.
The first step to lifting the educational standards of New Zealand’s children is to find out how they are really doing.
Simple really – not rocket science.
NYT 8.11.2009 ….“What have the Americans done in eight years?” asked Abdullah Wasay, 60, a pharmacist in Charikar, a market town about 25 miles north of Kabul, expressing a view typical of many here. “Americans are saying that with their planes they can see an egg 18 kilometers away, so why can’t they see the Taliban?”
Trouble is they can see the egg but not inside to see if it is addled or not.
‘When Wanganui sort out their mayor we’ll sort out Hone’
Hingston conceded Harawira’s email comments, in which he rallied against “white motherf*****s”, were “unpleasant,” but said the MP was provoked by reference to his wife Hilda.
“There is a Maori way of seeing things and a Pakeha way,” said Hingston, who played down the prospect of serious disciplinary action by the party.
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“When Wanganui sort out their mayor we’ll sort out Hone.”
Wanganui mayor Michael Laws said yesterday that Harawira’s comments were indicative of the Maori Party as a whole.
So for that I thank Mr Joris De Bres and other members of the bro-aucracy for once and for clearing up that racism is simply freedom of expression and no matter how repugnant it is it is one of our inalienable human rights to express it how ever we desire.
I think he has it wrong though on the wearing of strange uniforms and the such because that also is simply a persons freedom of expression much like a tattoo. But then that would also put an end to the silly gang patch ban, because surely those are a person’s right, nay “entitlement” as Joris De Bres says, to freedom of expression.
According to Joris De Bres it is now safe to tell jokes about spics, frogs, tulip-chompers, japies, krauts, niggers, coons, blacks, dagos, wops, wogs, chinks, slopes, chows, plug-sockets, wet backs, coconuts, fobs, freshies and Australians because they are simply our “entitlement” to freedom of expression.
Phew! I am glad we got that settled.”
What a can of worms de Bres has opened in his haste to exonerate the racist Hone Harawira. I wonder if Phillip Ure has developed a loathing “with an intensity that is visceral” yet towrads the racist Maori Party MP. Somehow, I doubt it.
Racism in Gods Own – In some sort of sad semi final chapter in the John Harawanker debacle we now have Doris de Bres, a political appointee, trying to tell us “Mr Harawira’s comments are not a breach of the Human Rights Act, because he is entitled to freedom of expression.”
What a load of PS bullshit, this spineless flop needs to go, no doubt he wore blisters on his palms whilst wringing his hands on how he could deflect the shit storm that was sure follow this outburst.
John Harawanker obviously has mental issues much bigger than we have seen, and should be suspended from Parliament pending some form of inquiry.
What the ruling from Doris has done has cleared the way for anyone to say anything and claim it as “freedom of expression.”
What sort of a car is Rodney Hide driving these days?
Woodham in the NZ Sunday Herald today labels Jekyll-Hide’s mid-age crisis a MenoPorsche. Woodham says this is the male form of the menopause, “in which erstwhile sensible husbands and fathers trade in the Volvo and the wife of 20 years for the Porsche and the hot young woman”.
I’m gonna paint me one big motherfucking sign today that says: “A brown motherfucker lives here” and stand outside Mr de Bres’ house for the next few days.
I am quite within my rights to do so and should expect no adverse reaction to my stand – well according to Mr de Bres’ logic, when defending that brown cunt Harawira.
..bring it on whore…we need to find some way of paying for your chosen lifestyle..fine for you to sit back on your lazy arse and complain and whinge..the bank account is running dry whore and we need to top it up .
Since when could you ask to have fines waived in lieu of community service? So if I get a parking ticket, I can now just play music for 45 minutes to some students and I’m sweet? I’ve not often agreed with Mikey Havoc when I’ve heard him on bFm and now I’ll never trust him or his opinion. Mikey Havoc swaps $20k in fines for playing music to students aka doing his normal job.
“Wanganui mayor Michael Laws said yesterday that Harawira’s comments were indicative of the Maori Party as a whole.”
Laws is correct. The Maori party, a racist organisation, thrives on ethnic division (after all, that was its genesis).
It sees the white man as responsible for Maori depressed status in society, and plays the ‘others-are-to-blame’ game to avoid taking responsibility for its people’s actions.
When have you seen a serious effort from kamatuas and other leaders of Maoridom to tacke the illnesses that afflict their people? When have you seen results on less criminal activity, less baby killing, less welfare benefits and dole reliance, more education? Never. It will never happen.
The racist maori Party is there to advance its own cause, that is line the pockets of its members.
Kris, thanks for the reply yesterday. Sorry for the slow reply. Kiddies went to Peter Pan and it turned into an all afternoon and evening thing.
OK, so you think Muslims have unwittingly fallen into a trap set by Satan. And God is fighting a battle save us all from Satan. And has given us a route to be saved via Christ.
If God created the universe and everything in it, why did he create Satan? OK so maybe Satan was a mistake. It all got out of hand. If so why doesn’t God just destroy Satan? And all would be honky dory. Anyway how could this happen as God is all knowing? So he must have foreseen this? Also Satan seems to have worked out quite well, as he’s an effective recruiting and retention tool. You’re always warning us about Hell.
With regards to Satan and Hell, is God just winging it (making the best of a bad situation) or was it all part of the plan? If it wasn’t plan then can God really be all knowing?
Do you ever think it’s like a sloppy movie script? One that hasn’t been thought through properly, but nonetheless needs to be bought together at the end. So it gets more and more incredible. Or something which started out as a simple idea (God made the world and us) and has been added to over the years, each time another question is asked. A hole is found so another patch is slapped on.
Take the thing about Jesus paying for our future sins with his suffering on the cross. That’s just silly. Who was he paying? God? What kind of payment was it anyway, if Christ was really God? Or his son? Like inter-company pricing to transfer profits without attracting tax. How does a bit of suffering pay for my sins? It’s just a token payment at best. And why does a bit of suffering cancel out all future sin. Also why am I born with sin? Seems a bit unfair.
“Do you ever think it’s like a sloppy movie script? One that hasn’t been thought through properly, but nonetheless needs to be bought together at the end. So it gets more and more incredible.”
Dan Brown wrote the bible in a previous incarnation? Sheeesh now there’s a conspiracy theory if if I saw one. Come in KK.
Hi David,
Just to change the subject somewhat. Think about this: today is Remembrance Sunday – quite why we don’t have a national holiday for 11th November I’m not sure, but a very large number of us will be celebrating Armistice today, and a select few will also be celebrating the day of UDI, which also happened on the 11th.
Like I wondered yesterday: How does Commissioner Joris de Bres says reconcile “Mr Harawira’s comments are not a breach of the Human Rights Act, because he is entitled to freedom of expression.” with Maori Party President Whatarangi Winiata saying Harawira’s behaviour involved “serious breaches of the kaupapa and tikanga of the party.”
Is de Bres therefore condoning comments that breach Maori kaupapa and tikanga and is that a good thing for the Race Relations Commissioner to do?
Gentleman i have decided i will be throwing my shoe at Mr De Bres if i ever get the opportunity, i accept the consequences but will do it for great justice i encourage you all to do the same.
John Harawanker now says he is considering quitting at the next election, geez John don’t wait that long do the country and your party a big favour, fuck off now you parisite.
BTW take Phool with you, you two deserve each other.
November 8th is a day to remember.
Two people resigned immediately on November 8th 2008. So quick, so decisive, so prepared.
No answers on the night and none since. Lots of bad news when the books open slowly.
Where are they now? those two full of self pride?
well I saw one of them on Q&A this morn and believe it or not its gotten even uglier..good to hear though that she’s troughn up large flyin the world sticken her nose in where its not wanted….come back plaque…theres some questions about the countries chequebook we want you to answer…
“..We don’t want our tax dollars aiding companies that increase social inequalities.
So why do we let our tax dollars help companies that increase economic inequality?
Back in 1974, the inaugural year for Dollars & Sense, young economic justice activists — like me — felt we had our hands full.
I was working, at the time, in upstate New York, helping mobile home owners organize against trailer park landlord extortion.
I had one friend active on a campaign to win bargaining rights for the local university’s food service workers, another pushing for public housing, still another advocating for a badly needed primary health care clinic.
Everywhere we all looked, we saw people hurting, we saw unfairness, we saw economic injustice.
Now today, 35 years later, I’ve come to understand what we didn’t see: ..
.. the big picture.
Yes, back then in 1974, we certainly did face injustice at every turn.
But we were living, thanks to years of struggle—and success—by our activist forebears, in a society where politics actually revolved around confronting those injustices ..
..and making change that could really help average working people.
And, even better, we had a realistic shot at achieving that change.
The reason?
Our activist forbears had sliced the single greatest obstacle to social progress—the rich and powerful—down to democratic size.
In 1974 we were living in a society with an enfeebled wealthy .. and we didn’t know it.
Shame on us.
By not understanding—and not appreciating—the equality our progressive predecessors had battled so hard to achieve .. we failed to defend it.
We let the wealthy come back.
We let grand concentrations of private wealth reconstitute themselves across the American economic landscape.
We let the super rich regain their power to dictate and distort America’s political discourse.
How rich—and powerful—have today’s rich become?
Some numbers can help tell the story.
In 1974, the most affluent 1% of Americans averaged, in today’s dollars, $380,000 in income.
Now let’s fast-forward.
In 2007, the most recent year with stats, households in America’s top 1% averaged $1.4 million ..
.. well over triple what top 1% households averaged back in 1974—
– and, remember, this tripling came after adjusting for inflation.
Americans in the bottom 90%, meanwhile, saw their average incomes increase a meager $47 a year between 1974 and 2007 ..
.. not enough to foot the bill for a month’s worth of cable TV.
The bottom line: ..
.. top-1% households made 12 times more income than bottom-90% households in 1974..
.. 42 times more in 2007.
The numbers become even more striking when we go back a bit further in time and focus not on the top 1%, but on the richest of the rich ..
.. the top 400 ..
.. the living symbol of wealth and power in the United States ever since America’s original Gilded Age in the late 19th century.
In 1955, our 400 highest incomes averaged $12.3 million, in today’s dollars.
But the top 400 in 1955 didn’t get to enjoy all those millions.
On average, after exploiting every tax loophole they could find, they actually paid over half their incomes, 51.2%, in federal income tax.
Today’s super rich are doing better, fantastically better, both before and after taxes.
In 2006, the top 400 averaged an astounding $263 million each in income.
These 400 financially fortunate paid .. after loopholes ..
If you ask me I think 17% in federal taxes is extremely high, and 51.4% pure evil; it is most important that the richest people pay the least as it encourages more people to become rich.
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phil(whoar.co.nz)
Oh please, don’t ever stop the comedy routine Phool. Nobody reads your blog and most people certainly don’t read your dyspeptic rants. Your lucky if you get a handful of people to ever notice you here.
You’re the Kiwiblog joke, nobody- even in the Greens- gives a toss about what Philip Ure writes or thinks.
Phool,
you need a speeling chika
It is “Chthoniid” you fucking idiot
We look forward to photos of maggots crawling around in the brain of Phools. Not a lot of room, it’s full of shit.
“with a more equitable society..a lot of our other problems will disappear..”
Guess what, I agree with you!
In a more “equitable society” scum like you would be forced to work, scum like you would not be allowed to steal money from the other “workers” so you can sit on your lazy arse doing nothing all day and scum like you would be pilloried by the entire community for taking everything and contributing nothing.
What do the “poor” really thing of you Phool?, the same “poor” who work two or three jobs to give their kids the best chance in life?, the same poor who would more than likely spit in your face if you told them the truth about your parasitic existence.
How about you think of the money you steal from them every week Phool, how about you consider how much food you take from their tables and how their standard of living would be so much higher if vermin like yourself actually contributed to our society.
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-Apparent lack of remorse or empathy; inability to care about hurting others
-Inability to keep jobs or stay in school
-Impulsivity and/or recklessness
-Lack of realistic, long-term goals — an inability or persistent failure to develop and execute long-term plans and goals
-Inability to make or keep friends, or maintain relationships such as marriage
-Poor behavioral controls — expressions of irritability, annoyance, impatience, threats, aggression, and verbal abuse; inadequate control of anger and temper
-Narcissism, elevated self-appraisal or a sense of extreme entitlement
-A persistent agitated or depressed feeling (dysphoria)
-A history of childhood conduct disorder
-Recurring difficulties with the law
-Tendency to violate the boundaries and rights of others
-Substance abuse
-Aggressive, often violent behavior; prone to getting involved in fights
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-Persistent attitude of irresponsibility and disregard for social rules, obligations, and norms
-Difficulties with authority figures
November 8th, 2009 at 8:10 am
Hone has really screwed more than just himself.
It will interesting to see now what happens about the harbour bridge and the maori lag – because the Tino flag came from a competition run (for a better flag of protest) , and I think judged, by one Hone Harawira.
So not only is this flag one of protest – it is now the flag someone who thinks some 70% of the population are raping motherfuckers………..
The maori party must be really pissed off with him
November 8th, 2009 at 8:21 am
But Maori Party co-vice president and retired judge Heta Hingston appeared to defended Harawira yesterday, and argued his day trip to Paris was just “bad timing”. from the herald. Looks like nothing will happen to him because the party leaders are defending his irresponsible behavior. He went to Europe for a purpose on taxpayers money. He could have stopped off in Pakeha Paris on the way home but decided to lie. The Maori Party has no mana.
November 8th, 2009 at 8:42 am
The rapist cometh. No not the whiteman but his servants. All you “rich Pricks” Bill and the Dunny are about to visit you enclaves.
Taxman to set sights on top bosses
By SUSAN PEPPERELL – Sunday Star Times
Last updated 05:00 08/11/2009
The IRD is turning its sights on the country’s top earners, as the recession leaves a gaping hole in the government’s tax take.
This year, for the the first time, the tax department has sent questionnaires to some of the country’s biggest companies demanding details of the salary and perks of its three highest-earning staff. Top executives in New Zealand earn as much as $7 million a year, attracting tax bills in the millions of dollars. The questionnaire asks for details of all the perks and non-cash benefits of employment contracts.
The IRD focus on executive high-fliers comes hot on the heels of the department’s huge court victories against Westpac and Bank of New Zealand, which must now pay $918m and $645m to the IRD respectively in taxes and penalties.
The most common perks for top execs include cars, share options, bonuses, superannuation and sports club memberships. But there are more gold-plated versions, such as those in Telecom boss Paul Reynolds’ contract.
His package for the year to June 2009 was worth $7.1m, and included a base salary of $1.75m plus a $1.75m annual performance incentive. Telecom is also paying for Scottish-born Reynolds and his family to travel business class between New Zealand and the UK for his first three years in the job (he took over in September 2007) and giving him accommodation costs of $100,000 for the first two years. His salary package also includes $20,000 towards legal advice on his contract and $6000 for tax advice.
The spotlight on CEO pay is part of IRD’s new “compliance focus” document released in June, which spelt out where it will be placing greater scrutiny in the coming year.
There about 4500 large businesses in New Zealand with an annual turnover of more than $100m. The questionnaires ask companies to disclose the non-cash percentage of executive packages for the last three financial years, details of share options, superannuation contributions and non-cash benefits of more than $10,000 per year.
IRD says the new focus comes because many top bosses’ salary packages are complex and have been identified as an area of “potential risk”, where the appropriate tax may be overlooked or misinterpreted.
In other words, IRD appears to be looking at extracting more money from areas that have previously remained under its radar, and in extracting the right level of tax from the non-cash parts of executive pay packages.
But tax experts say putting these high-value taxpayers in the gun may also be connected to the recession, and suggest the IRD is trying to claw back some of the huge drop in tax income in the past year.
A Treasury report out last week showed the government accounts for the first three months of this financial year were far worse than forecast. The deficit for the three months to September 30 was $2 billion, or 77% worse than forecast in the May Budget. Lower corporate tax revenue was pinpointed as the main contributor to the higher deficit.
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“Unemployment is up which means the PAYE take is down,” says specialist tax expert Greg Harris, of Deloitte, and meanwhile “spending is down, which means that revenue from GST is down. IRD seems to beefing up its interest in areas it hasn’t looked at before, partly in response to the recession”.
Harris says there has long been confusion surrounding executive salaries. While PAYE and fringe benefit tax was easily identified, it was trickier to work out exactly what tax was owed on share options and bonuses.
Martin Scott, group manager assurance for IRD, says so far about 100 executive pay questionnaires have been sent out.
IRD emphasises in a letter that accompanies each questionnaire that the responses will not necessarily lead to a company audit, but instead will form part of its “risk assessment”. However, the compliance focus document states results “will be evaluated against supporting information and analysis”. That may then lead to specific reviews.
Harris described IRD’s approach this year as far more targeted than in previous years. “In the past, everyone expected to be audited every five years, but it was inconsistent and random. This is a far more consistent approach.”
November 8th, 2009 at 8:43 am
Harawira could murder 50 white people and still his scumbag maori party and scumbag hanger on’s would run to his defence
We should be out protesting in droves..but no..bend over a little further NZ…take it a bit more up the arse from the racist party..and keep smiling…wheres Kyle Chapman when ya need him…
November 8th, 2009 at 8:47 am
As a parent and former teacher I am right behind the Government’s introduction of National Standards.
Sure the system will need some tweaking as it goes along, but the principle is sound. So much so that
it is a suprise to me that it hasn’t always been in place!
But I see in today’s papers http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3041972/National-standards-disaster-feared the media and teachers are mounting a campaign to prevent the Minister from introducing a system that will provide a measurement for the performance of children at our country’s schools.
God forbid that parents may actually have access to information telling them how their children are doing?
Or receive plain language reports that make recommendations as to how parents can help their children at home?
It’s about time that our primary school teachers realised that their job is to teach children. FULL STOP
Most parents receive more quality information about their children’s cereal that they purchase at the supermarket than on how their children are doing at school.
And I don’t mean all the PC reports that come home, pages upon pages that tell you nothing, because the teachers don’t want to look bad. I know a teacher (an excellent new entrants teacher) who told me her school has set phrases and language they can use on reports and when she mistakenly told the truth, was asked to re-write the reports by the school’s principal.
The first step to lifting the educational standards of New Zealand’s children is to find out how they are really doing.
Simple really – not rocket science.
November 8th, 2009 at 8:48 am
NYT 8.11.2009 ….“What have the Americans done in eight years?” asked Abdullah Wasay, 60, a pharmacist in Charikar, a market town about 25 miles north of Kabul, expressing a view typical of many here. “Americans are saying that with their planes they can see an egg 18 kilometers away, so why can’t they see the Taliban?”
Trouble is they can see the egg but not inside to see if it is addled or not.
November 8th, 2009 at 8:50 am
‘When Wanganui sort out their mayor we’ll sort out Hone’
Hingston conceded Harawira’s email comments, in which he rallied against “white motherf*****s”, were “unpleasant,” but said the MP was provoked by reference to his wife Hilda.
“There is a Maori way of seeing things and a Pakeha way,” said Hingston, who played down the prospect of serious disciplinary action by the party.
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“When Wanganui sort out their mayor we’ll sort out Hone.”
Wanganui mayor Michael Laws said yesterday that Harawira’s comments were indicative of the Maori Party as a whole.
November 8th, 2009 at 8:58 am
WhaleOil nails it:
So for that I thank Mr Joris De Bres and other members of the bro-aucracy for once and for clearing up that racism is simply freedom of expression and no matter how repugnant it is it is one of our inalienable human rights to express it how ever we desire.
I think he has it wrong though on the wearing of strange uniforms and the such because that also is simply a persons freedom of expression much like a tattoo. But then that would also put an end to the silly gang patch ban, because surely those are a person’s right, nay “entitlement” as Joris De Bres says, to freedom of expression.
According to Joris De Bres it is now safe to tell jokes about spics, frogs, tulip-chompers, japies, krauts, niggers, coons, blacks, dagos, wops, wogs, chinks, slopes, chows, plug-sockets, wet backs, coconuts, fobs, freshies and Australians because they are simply our “entitlement” to freedom of expression.
Phew! I am glad we got that settled.”
What a can of worms de Bres has opened in his haste to exonerate the racist Hone Harawira. I wonder if Phillip Ure has developed a loathing “with an intensity that is visceral” yet towrads the racist Maori Party MP. Somehow, I doubt it.
November 8th, 2009 at 8:59 am
Hone is a racist, little better than a national front member.
Anything he says from now on must be put into the context of his hatred of europeans.
November 8th, 2009 at 9:16 am
Racism in Gods Own – In some sort of sad semi final chapter in the John Harawanker debacle we now have Doris de Bres, a political appointee, trying to tell us “Mr Harawira’s comments are not a breach of the Human Rights Act, because he is entitled to freedom of expression.”
What a load of PS bullshit, this spineless flop needs to go, no doubt he wore blisters on his palms whilst wringing his hands on how he could deflect the shit storm that was sure follow this outburst.
John Harawanker obviously has mental issues much bigger than we have seen, and should be suspended from Parliament pending some form of inquiry.
What the ruling from Doris has done has cleared the way for anyone to say anything and claim it as “freedom of expression.”
November 8th, 2009 at 9:17 am
key on q&a..pimping ’surgical-mining’..
phil(whoar.co.nz)
November 8th, 2009 at 9:25 am
What sort of a car is Rodney Hide driving these days?
Woodham in the NZ Sunday Herald today labels Jekyll-Hide’s mid-age crisis a MenoPorsche. Woodham says this is the male form of the menopause, “in which erstwhile sensible husbands and fathers trade in the Volvo and the wife of 20 years for the Porsche and the hot young woman”.
The link:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10607913
November 8th, 2009 at 9:27 am
Does anybody have Joris de Bres’ home address?
I’m gonna paint me one big motherfucking sign today that says: “A brown motherfucker lives here” and stand outside Mr de Bres’ house for the next few days.
I am quite within my rights to do so and should expect no adverse reaction to my stand – well according to Mr de Bres’ logic, when defending that brown cunt Harawira.
November 8th, 2009 at 9:28 am
..bring it on whore…we need to find some way of paying for your chosen lifestyle..fine for you to sit back on your lazy arse and complain and whinge..the bank account is running dry whore and we need to top it up .
November 8th, 2009 at 9:45 am
hulun clark…the great traveller..london , madrid , rome , lisbon , NY…fuck what a rort..makes rodney look like a saint…
November 8th, 2009 at 10:06 am
what is that foul smell..?
oh..!..it’s that star-bored..!
phil(whoar.co.nz)
November 8th, 2009 at 10:10 am
Since when could you ask to have fines waived in lieu of community service? So if I get a parking ticket, I can now just play music for 45 minutes to some students and I’m sweet? I’ve not often agreed with Mikey Havoc when I’ve heard him on bFm and now I’ll never trust him or his opinion. Mikey Havoc swaps $20k in fines for playing music to students aka doing his normal job.
November 8th, 2009 at 10:19 am
ooohh look its the armed robber/junky/parasite/handbag carrying phil ure…
November 8th, 2009 at 10:34 am
“ooohh look its the armed robber/junky/parasite/handbag carrying phil ure…”
You forgot the “accomplished baker and cook.”
November 8th, 2009 at 10:43 am
oh , and I forgot public masterbater
November 8th, 2009 at 10:45 am
“Wanganui mayor Michael Laws said yesterday that Harawira’s comments were indicative of the Maori Party as a whole.”
Laws is correct. The Maori party, a racist organisation, thrives on ethnic division (after all, that was its genesis).
It sees the white man as responsible for Maori depressed status in society, and plays the ‘others-are-to-blame’ game to avoid taking responsibility for its people’s actions.
When have you seen a serious effort from kamatuas and other leaders of Maoridom to tacke the illnesses that afflict their people? When have you seen results on less criminal activity, less baby killing, less welfare benefits and dole reliance, more education? Never. It will never happen.
The racist maori Party is there to advance its own cause, that is line the pockets of its members.
November 8th, 2009 at 10:53 am
all these rightwing racist trolls ..calling the maori party ‘racist’..
hilarious..!
and irony-awareness-free..
briliiant..!
thick as pigshit..!
all of them..
phil(whoar.co.nz)
November 8th, 2009 at 10:59 am
“When have you seen a serious effort from kamatuas and other leaders of Maoridom to tacke the illnesses that afflict their people?”
Hey bro look what happens when they do. Those racist, mother******, honkies arrest them! But no sweat cuz they all got off just like Hone will.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/wellington/2466627/Ritual-just-like-Exorcist-movie
November 8th, 2009 at 10:59 am
Joris De Bres calls Hones comments “unhelpful”. Flip it on its head and make it a white man and Joris would be crawling up his ass with elgal action.
Get fucked phil you snivling little bit of parasitic crap.
November 8th, 2009 at 11:00 am
WTF would a veggie like you know of pigshit magpie?
November 8th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Kris, thanks for the reply yesterday. Sorry for the slow reply. Kiddies went to Peter Pan and it turned into an all afternoon and evening thing.
OK, so you think Muslims have unwittingly fallen into a trap set by Satan. And God is fighting a battle save us all from Satan. And has given us a route to be saved via Christ.
If God created the universe and everything in it, why did he create Satan? OK so maybe Satan was a mistake. It all got out of hand. If so why doesn’t God just destroy Satan? And all would be honky dory. Anyway how could this happen as God is all knowing? So he must have foreseen this? Also Satan seems to have worked out quite well, as he’s an effective recruiting and retention tool. You’re always warning us about Hell.
With regards to Satan and Hell, is God just winging it (making the best of a bad situation) or was it all part of the plan? If it wasn’t plan then can God really be all knowing?
Do you ever think it’s like a sloppy movie script? One that hasn’t been thought through properly, but nonetheless needs to be bought together at the end. So it gets more and more incredible. Or something which started out as a simple idea (God made the world and us) and has been added to over the years, each time another question is asked. A hole is found so another patch is slapped on.
Take the thing about Jesus paying for our future sins with his suffering on the cross. That’s just silly. Who was he paying? God? What kind of payment was it anyway, if Christ was really God? Or his son? Like inter-company pricing to transfer profits without attracting tax. How does a bit of suffering pay for my sins? It’s just a token payment at best. And why does a bit of suffering cancel out all future sin. Also why am I born with sin? Seems a bit unfair.
Does any of this trouble you?
November 8th, 2009 at 11:10 am
“Do you ever think it’s like a sloppy movie script? One that hasn’t been thought through properly, but nonetheless needs to be bought together at the end. So it gets more and more incredible.”
Dan Brown wrote the bible in a previous incarnation? Sheeesh now there’s a conspiracy theory if if I saw one. Come in KK.
November 8th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Hi David,
Just to change the subject somewhat. Think about this: today is Remembrance Sunday – quite why we don’t have a national holiday for 11th November I’m not sure, but a very large number of us will be celebrating Armistice today, and a select few will also be celebrating the day of UDI, which also happened on the 11th.
November 8th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Yes it was a sad day for that poor country when the monkies took over Rhodie.
November 8th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Sorry for new subject….
I think this person is the embodiment of every workplace’s worst nightmare….
http://bit.ly/1vOZbj
How ironic that she would work in the Dept of Labour. Where do all these hypersensitive wets come from?
November 8th, 2009 at 11:56 am
i know ’shit’ when i see/smell/read it..johnboy..
phil(whoar.co.nz)
November 8th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
mad-muzza..!
weren’t you one of those ones who left kiwiblog..never to darken the portal again..
’till i was banned from kiwiblog..?
wha’ happened..?
and i must say..you weren’t missed..
and very quickly became an ‘i’ll never forget what’shisname..?
(like so many of you rightwing trolls have become..)
don’t tarry..!
off you go..!
back to yr self-imposed exile..
go and play with yr soldier-toys again..!
that’d be better for all concerned..eh..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
November 8th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
“i know ’shit’ when i see/smell/read it..johnboy..”
I know that phool you smoke it every day I asked about ‘pigshit’.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Like I wondered yesterday: How does Commissioner Joris de Bres says reconcile “Mr Harawira’s comments are not a breach of the Human Rights Act, because he is entitled to freedom of expression.” with Maori Party President Whatarangi Winiata saying Harawira’s behaviour involved “serious breaches of the kaupapa and tikanga of the party.”
Is de Bres therefore condoning comments that breach Maori kaupapa and tikanga and is that a good thing for the Race Relations Commissioner to do?
November 8th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Opps – okay, not ‘Joris de Bres says reconcile’ but just ‘Joris de Bres reconcile . . .’
November 8th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Is that the same as when you whine about Hide troughing, Mr King of Troughs?
How much have you spent on holidays off the taxpayer’s cent, huh?
Perks of the non-job!
..eh..?..
November 8th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Gentleman i have decided i will be throwing my shoe at Mr De Bres if i ever get the opportunity, i accept the consequences but will do it for great justice i encourage you all to do the same.
November 8th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Shoes are too valuable. Throw a sack of shit instead.
November 8th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
I thought about it …. liquids tend to be a double edged sword
November 8th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
but woiuld star-bored be willing to be thrown..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
November 8th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
or are you volunteering..?..hurf..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
November 8th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
“Throw a sack of shit instead.” Ill volunteer for that. Anyone know what phool weighs?
November 8th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
“Anyone know what phool weighs?”
Seen fork hoists at the vege shop?
November 8th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
John Harawanker now says he is considering quitting at the next election, geez John don’t wait that long do the country and your party a big favour, fuck off now you parisite.
BTW take Phool with you, you two deserve each other.
November 8th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
November 8th is a day to remember.
Two people resigned immediately on November 8th 2008. So quick, so decisive, so prepared.
No answers on the night and none since. Lots of bad news when the books open slowly.
Where are they now? those two full of self pride?
November 8th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
well I saw one of them on Q&A this morn and believe it or not its gotten even uglier..good to hear though that she’s troughn up large flyin the world sticken her nose in where its not wanted….come back plaque…theres some questions about the countries chequebook we want you to answer…
November 8th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
it’s past time to rein in the rich..
http://whoar.co.nz/2009/have-the-very-wealthy-achieved-victory-in-their-class-war/
November 8th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
.its so easy to copy and paste dickhead..’ oodle wardle ardle “
November 8th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
If people want to read your shitty blog, they’ll go to your shitty blog. Stop spamming us with your poorly-formatted crap.
November 8th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
‘whoar.co.nz..infuriating rightie trolls since 2005′
phil(whoar.co.nz)
November 8th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
never mind the ‘format’..dog..feel the quality..!
phil(whoar.co.nz)
November 8th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
If you ask me I think 17% in federal taxes is extremely high, and 51.4% pure evil; it is most important that the richest people pay the least as it encourages more people to become rich.
http://www.nightcitytrader.blogspot.com
November 8th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
What quality?
I feel it’s past time we reined in (or shot, either’s good) the bludgers like phool.
November 8th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
Whoar, what would you know about the rich or the condition of being rich?
You live a pathetic and miserable existence: the life of a idler for whom someone making even 30,000 dollars/year seems to be rich!
Remember, the taxpayers give you your weekly benefit. Rather than atttacking productive people, you owe us, so be grateful and count your blessings.
Without our taxes you would be even more of the whinging bludger and parasite you’re today. That would be intolerable.
November 8th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
with a more equitable society..a lot of our other problems will disappear..
we have spent over twenty years going in the wrong direction..
it’s past time to put it right..
phil(whoar.co.nz)
November 8th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Oh please, don’t ever stop the comedy routine Phool. Nobody reads your blog and most people certainly don’t read your dyspeptic rants. Your lucky if you get a handful of people to ever notice you here.
You’re the Kiwiblog joke, nobody- even in the Greens- gives a toss about what Philip Ure writes or thinks.
November 8th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
With whose money, phool? Your money? Oh yeah, that’s right. Fuck off.
You ignore the fact that our society had just as much poverty and crime before 1984, combined with economy-strangling laws.
November 8th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
I’ve read far more elegant and cogent analysis on the walls of public toilets.
November 8th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Can the left come up with any, at all, one, single idea that does not involve taking my money and/or pissing it away on utter shit?
November 8th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
was it the whale photos..?..clintoiid..?
that ‘hurt’ so much..?
(i feel/hear your pain/frustration/sense of impotence..)
phil(whoar.co.nz)
November 8th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
And again, I refer to you
“You’re the Kiwiblog joke, nobody- even in the Greens- gives a toss about what Philip Ure writes or thinks.”
November 8th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Phool,
you need a speeling chika
It is “Chthoniid” you fucking idiot
We look forward to photos of maggots crawling around in the brain of Phools. Not a lot of room, it’s full of shit.
November 8th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
whereas..clintoiid..we hang off yr every word..eh..?
(who..?..)
phil(whoar.co.nz)
November 8th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
Phil – have you explained yet how you can “work each day” on whoar.co.nz and still draw the DPB? Or are you using the verb “work” rather loosely?
November 8th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Well Phool, you manifest an inordinate fondness for replying to my posts.
Fwiw, so far this year I’ve given multiple print, radio and TV interviews. You’re clearly not keeping up with environmental issues.
November 8th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Phool can’t keep up with “environMENTAL issues” as the cloud of smoke from the bong is far to dense!
November 8th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
Phool
“with a more equitable society..a lot of our other problems will disappear..”
Guess what, I agree with you!
In a more “equitable society” scum like you would be forced to work, scum like you would not be allowed to steal money from the other “workers” so you can sit on your lazy arse doing nothing all day and scum like you would be pilloried by the entire community for taking everything and contributing nothing.
What do the “poor” really thing of you Phool?, the same “poor” who work two or three jobs to give their kids the best chance in life?, the same poor who would more than likely spit in your face if you told them the truth about your parasitic existence.
How about you think of the money you steal from them every week Phool, how about you consider how much food you take from their tables and how their standard of living would be so much higher if vermin like yourself actually contributed to our society.
November 8th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
just like pavlovs’ dogs..
ring a bell..
and the whole pack starts to slaver..
phil(whoar.co.nz)
November 8th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Found this definition: Antisocial Personality Disorder
Extract
Sound like anyone here?
November 8th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
um..!..just about every rightwing troll..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
November 8th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
um..!..you..?
(am i getting warm..?..)
tho i do find it hard to see your ’superficial charm’..eh..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
November 8th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
Heh