MPs surveys
July 1st, 2010 at 12:44 pm by David FarrarThe muppets are up in arms over a postal survey from a National MP.
A reader happened to have received a copy of this survey from Labour MP Pete Hodgson.I’ll let readers make their own minds up about how outrageous (or not) these are.
I must say that the National graphic designer should get a pay rise – their surveys are far better laid out than the rather ugly Labour one.
Tags: Labour, Pete Hodgson
July 1st, 2010 at 12:54 pm
Small technical point… I thought arms we up in muppets
Vote:July 1st, 2010 at 12:58 pm
“muppets”
Vote:That is a very chartiable description DPF.
In fact muppets would be very upset to be likened to the oiks at the standard
July 1st, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Tired of Hodgson’s hypocrisy. Isn’t he retiring soon. Why doesn’t he just bugger off?
Vote:July 1st, 2010 at 1:02 pm
David I think you should bring back the rating system so we can all give krazykiwi a big thumbs up
Vote:July 1st, 2010 at 1:20 pm
BAHAHAHA
“Nats push polling on your Dime”
when did the standard start caring about government expenditure?
Vote:July 1st, 2010 at 1:32 pm
But it’s okay to rent a bus on our money eh?
Vote:July 1st, 2010 at 1:34 pm
@ Dime
“The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money to spend” – Dame Maggie Thatcher
Kind of relevant.. just wanted to share the quote
Vote:July 1st, 2010 at 1:42 pm
I imagine the intent is mostly the same however the questions in the National survey clearly do not want an answer. They are obviously biased to saying the budget is good. The Labour survey appears to be asking much more neutral questions.
Vote:July 1st, 2010 at 1:44 pm
dime
November 2008.
Vote:July 1st, 2010 at 1:48 pm
I thought National aspired to higher standards than Labour? I don’t want to pay for rubbish like this regardless of its source.
Vote:July 1st, 2010 at 2:13 pm
I guess its good in that.. Hodgey will know what what all of NZ and his contituents already know.. National is doing a good job.
Vote:yes.. we think the ETS is unfair but it would be twice as bad under labour.. yes…the drinking age should go up to 20.. and mining is ok in some section 4 areas..nothing new there… wasted survey really except that it will let Hodgey know he made the right choice in leaving next year.
July 1st, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Socialists being hypocritical… shit never saw that coming.
Vote:July 1st, 2010 at 2:43 pm
So when Labour does push polling that is bad – when National does it that is good. Roll on the next election – I can’t wait for the blog biffo to start.
Vote:July 1st, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Murray – I am sure that hypocrisy is not limited to the left , the right has its own flavour of hypocrisy – is it not the nature of politics ?
Vote:July 1st, 2010 at 2:54 pm
I’m with JamesP. It’s quite funny seeing the Standard getting up in arms about it, but ultimately this survey from Melissa Lee (actually from head office) has no useful purpose, and is wasting my taxpayer money.
I doubt it’s even useful as a push poll – I doubt anyone who didn’t already support National is looking at it and saying “wow, look at all that cool stuff National is doing.” Frankly, for the cost and value, they’d have been better just doing a newsletter.
Vote:July 1st, 2010 at 2:59 pm
There’s only one question they’d need survey me on. The answer might take a bit of guesswork.
“Do you want me to
A) Hang around or,
B) Fuck off?”
That goes for Hodgson or Melissa, who as far as I know has never earned a dollar that hasn’t had the taxpayer as its original source. What she is doing in National I would not know.
Vote:July 1st, 2010 at 3:00 pm
Labours survey waste of money..
Nationals survey money well spent ..
What am I saying both Lee and Hodgson are abusing the realms of office at our expense.
The hypocrisy of labour continues.. and so does the unjustified spending of both.
Vote:July 1st, 2010 at 3:39 pm
The labour survey seems to have more balanced questions, the National survey looks more like party political advertising masquerading as survey.
Both are clearly being paid for by the tax payer, I guess that is OK now that National are in charge.
Vote:July 1st, 2010 at 4:01 pm
Political advertising posing as surveys, but apparently the National poser is prettier. Maybe both parties think they are genuinely surveying what they want to be told, but that’s not what we should be paying for.
Room for an independent opinion checker and people’s lobby group?
Vote:July 1st, 2010 at 4:26 pm
2005 election. Pledge Card. Blowing the electoral finance cap. Enough said.
Vote:July 1st, 2010 at 5:18 pm
Yeh, would be good if it was about real questions. Bridges put his out, added a couple of questions about the local council who are socialists just like him so it was all pallsy wousy stuff. Complete bollocks. Are the National Party good or what? well the answer is not. at this point. About 3 out of 10 10 being setting people free from state tyranny.
Vote:July 1st, 2010 at 5:48 pm
“Some people say the Government is reacting responsibly to the global economic downturn; others say they are doing too little”
What about others say they are doing too much…
Vote:July 1st, 2010 at 6:54 pm
# krazykiwi (5776) Says:
July 1st, 2010 at 12:54 pm
The muppets are up in arms over a postal survey…
Small technical point… I thought arms we up in muppets
It was false memories. Grover was a lying hussy. Those claims were never proven !
Vote:July 1st, 2010 at 8:39 pm
This is actually very funny
Vote:July 1st, 2010 at 11:23 pm
I think taxpayer funded surveys by whatever party should not ask me who I voted for or “what party best represents my interests”, any more than an electorate MP should ask me that if I went to talk to them abut some matter. There is no governmental reason to ask about my political leanings. I see it as information that will be used for party purposes, they can spend their own money to ask me those kinds of questions.
Vote:July 1st, 2010 at 11:28 pm
I would not object to receiving either of these, although the National one is slightly better, in that it does ask a couple of questions that the Labour one does not. I dont mind my local MP asking me what I think, in fact I feel that it is a tendency to be encouraged. Whether or not the MP’s concerned will actually act accordingly is another matter. Certainly I have seen far worse ways of wasting taxpayers money than either of these two examples
Regards
Vote:Peter Jenkins
July 2nd, 2010 at 12:36 am
Peter above, why do you not object to the government using your money to ask who you vote for, so that when you tell them what you think in the rest of the survey, the MPs of either party can then choose whether to ignore or take notice of what you said, and hone their PR strategies, based on your political demographic and how that fits into their electoral strategies? I am sure there is much larger absolute waste going on all over the place, but this is as bad in kind as any of the diversions we have had over expenses, use of party parliamentary funding during elections, pledge cards and the like over the last little while. It is public money being claimed for public use, but the use is fashioned substantially to suit private (political) purposes.
Vote:July 2nd, 2010 at 10:04 am
Neither Labour nor National have our interests at heart, so as somone who wouldn’t vote for either party, perhaps I can be somewhat less biased than DPF:
I think that the Melissa Lee ‘survey’ is certainly pushing an agenda. It contains statements like ‘Budget 2010 focuses on building …’ . The entire blue card with John Key’s face on it is campaign material not actual questions.
The Labour one doesn’t seem to have any statements except in relation to the administration of the survey, and about what happens to personal information if it is provided. Labour, however, are clearly using the survey as an exercise to get voters onto their contact database, which is probably allowed by the rules.
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