Trevor’s deleted post
Trevor has withdrawn this post at Red Alert as friends of his found it offensive.
The Internet doesn’t like censorship though. So for those wondering the subject line of the post was:
Once a rainbow warrior
And Trevor commented:
Advised not to use the line but I do think the day needs lightening up.
Presumably the Rainbow Caucus didn’t lighten up enough for Trevor.
Trevor’s also deleted comments, including this one from Chris:
If anyone else wrote that comment you would be calling them homophobic and put them in moderation. Still I guess when your on the out the true feelings start coming to the surface.
But Trevor did have support from Loota:
Nothing worse than a bunch of over-sensitive PC mommas boys who can’t take what they give.
An ability to laugh at one’s own quirks and stereotypes is simply gold.
Someone else pointed out a better line might have been “Once was a rainbow warrior”
July 31st, 2010 at 11:51 am
“Friends found offensive”
A blatant lie; everyone knows that Trevor Mallard has no friends left
July 31st, 2010 at 11:57 am
@inventory2 – hahaha great call!
July 31st, 2010 at 12:02 pm
The left are self destructing all over the net as they lose control of the narrative. Tripped up by their own ridiculous censorship and devotion to the madness of political correctness. That these fools actually presume to run the country when they can’t even run a blog is the height of irony.
Red Alert is just a propaganda outlet and it pains me to see self professed “right wing” bloggers begging to be taken out of “moderation”. Pathetic. The blog is run by a collective who are the dangerous and destructive enemies of liberty and they deserve no dialogue.
July 31st, 2010 at 12:05 pm
You’re
Sorry, being pedantic, I know.
July 31st, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Talk about ridiculous censorship, i got banned for life at the sub-standard the other day for calling Irish (one angry son of a bitch) Bill an anonymous coward after he called me a ‘fucking moron’ for spelling nuts as ‘nutts’.
Good god, it’s a fucken blog, not a spelling and grammar test. Those guys at the left wing wank fest called The Standard are so out of touch with reality it scares me to think that the left in this country may in fact get the keys back to the government benches again one day!
July 31st, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Is Trevor lacking conviction (read balls), or was he forced to withdraw by the rainbow wing of the socialists?
Either way, the thuggish Mallard ends up looking like a complete fool.
July 31st, 2010 at 12:20 pm
Redbait you and your ilk have always had a very twisted perception of what liberty actually is and who should get it.
July 31st, 2010 at 12:24 pm
*redbaiter.
July 31st, 2010 at 12:44 pm
Your
So, this guy used to be a teacher, huh…..
July 31st, 2010 at 12:49 pm
While Chris “Once was a rainbow warrior” Carter may seem to have reached the end of his rope, I’m sure the ‘Sisterhood’ (of which he’s an honourary member) still have further use for him in the lead-up to the next election, and perhaps following as well.
Time will tell, but I can almost sense ‘Her Exaltedness’ maintaining her finger on the pulse from her #3 position at the UN.
Watch this space …
July 31st, 2010 at 12:49 pm
“Redbaiter you and your ilk have always had a very twisted perception of what liberty actually is”
Typical baseless smear. Red Alert is a propaganda outlet for collectivists whose end game is totalitarian socialism. It’s the objective that underpins almost every example of censorship that occurs at that site. And unlike your smear Nicola, this thesis is substantiated by a read of any socialist document you care to pick up, including the objectives of Socialist International of which Klark and the Labour Party are long time members, or if you want, you can seek out Claire Curran’s treatise on the control of language from a decade or so ago.
The left’s objective has always been to shut alternative ideas out of the debate. The over the top censoring on Red Alert is proof enough on its own.
July 31st, 2010 at 12:54 pm
“Trevor has friends”.
Trevor has had his balls chopped from within… the labour rainbow wing of the socialists have planted him with one of their elk … a female partner.
July 31st, 2010 at 1:08 pm
As I said last week on red alert, “who moderates the moderators.” Its Mallard who should now be in moderation. Mallard is just a bully boy thug
July 31st, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Mallard often talks before he thinks. His biggest weakness, and National’s greatest asset.
July 31st, 2010 at 1:16 pm
Once was a labour party.
July 31st, 2010 at 1:22 pm
The left are self destructing all over the net as they lose control of the narrative.
The Left are alive and well and in power. National is giving NZers exactly what they got from Labour: more government, more taxes, more regulation, and the same welfare state Labour ran for a decade.
Ok, you might argue National are not socialist but conservative i.e. no change to status quo. Perhaps – but if the status quo is socialist nonsense, then socialism is what you get under the so called Right.
It would be nice if someone, anyone, credible stood up and said enough.
July 31st, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Isn’t it ironic the very party that champions political correctness and thus the supposed moral high ground (human rights, equal opportunities etc ) are dirty as us children eating right wing mongrels. Scratch the scab off and the bastards are at each others throats, they have no honour, never had and their lives are nothing but a charade. As far as I’m concern they deserve each other. I gives me the shits to see how these socialist bastards have fucked up this country good and proper, I hope the whole damn lot self destruct.
July 31st, 2010 at 2:01 pm
Absolutely SSB – they’ve all lined up behind Phil Goff to kick the life out of Chris Carter because he wouldn’t toe the party line.
And for those with short memories, remember that Tiato Philip Field WASN’T expelled from the Labour caucus because he was corrupt and took advantage of immigrants. TPF was kicked out of the Labour Party because he floated the idea of becoming an independant on the day that Helen Clark was giving her State of the Nation address to Parliament. His dishonesty and corruption wasn’t the issue; what got him sacked by Labour was raining on Helen Clark’s parade.
July 31st, 2010 at 2:06 pm
Yeah, I have been on moderation there at RedAlert for some weeks now. Clare made it clear over there, that I am a troll (in other words, I am not welcome there) which is bullshit. She (& their co-bloggers) doesn’t like the fact that the knowledge I posted in my messages (in a wide variety of topics) goes unchallenged by their choir members. So, I am being moderated for my knowledge and Clare knows that but not for being nasty/abusive or anything like that.
There is an idiot there call Loota who has been trying to act like a McGyver at RedAlert (meaning he has an opinion in everything & anything ranging from science, economics, philosophy, politics, etc, …) but I have exposed him there all the time for his lack of knowledge on things that he purported to have knowledge in. He is a fake. I know when I encounter fake McGyvers on the internet, because once I start to get deeper in the debate (even on introduction level only); they simply disappear from the thread.
Recently I debated there on the issue of software patents. Clare (& her colleagues) wants to lobby Simon Power to scrap it. My argument is that it shouldn’t be, but the govt should tighten it. They should differentiate between real innovation (i.e., R&D) for original invention and pub-invention (i.e., an idea just born out of a discussion in a pub), because these 2 are completely different. Since Clare has no understanding of real R&D, she is a proponent of scrapping software patent laws. She had only heard submissions from the Open source community and never had one from real R&D people who know what software inventions are about. This is a clear case of when our lawmakers have been misinformed or simply have no clue about the issues that they’re suppose to know about.
July 31st, 2010 at 2:13 pm
“Redbait you and your ilk have always had a very twisted perception of what liberty actually is and who should get it.”
Wow Nicola I cant believe you still cling to the delusion that anything you stand for constitutes liberty.
Question; do you support electoral finance laws which limit speech such as the Electoral Finance Act? And If so how would you justify those on the basis that they enhance liberty?
July 31st, 2010 at 2:13 pm
“The Left are alive and well and in power. National is giving NZers exactly what they got from Labour: more government, more taxes, more regulation, and the same welfare state Labour ran for a decade.”
Sure- that’s why I said “all over the net”.
There is still much work to be done to dismantle the power base of the left. Nobody rational would think otherwise.
National are a pale imitation of Labour because as I said before, the left have cornered the political narrative over the last few decades. As they continue to lose control, and alternative views become more widespread, so shall National swing back away from the left.
The left only ever succeed in their political ambitions through corruption. All their gains in NZ have been down to their corruption of the media, the education system and the bureaucracy. Break one part of that cronyist corrupt triumvirate, and the others will eventually crumble.
We have undercut the left’s corruption of the media, and in another decade or so they will lose education and the bureacracy.
The totalitarian fascists running Red Alert know this, and that is why they struggle so hard to keep the debate in that part of the political spectrum they consider “approved”.
I have a message for those soviet bastards and their control freak style. Do what you want commies. You’re irrelevant now and soon you’ll be a lot more irrelevant. Enjoy your little power trip on Red Alert while you can. We’re coming after you. Your power is slipping away, and your final day is fast approaching. And there’s nothing you can do about it.
July 31st, 2010 at 2:19 pm
DPF – three points. First no caucus colleague or anyone acting for a caucus colleague made contact with me about the post. Secondly while as you know I’m not very technically literate I did know that my post would be available to you guys notwithstanding me taking it down. Thirdly, when I reflected on it I thought it crossed a taste line that I shouldn’t – so I took it down in the same way I’ve taken colleagues posts down twice in the past.
July 31st, 2010 at 2:22 pm
I actually rate Mallard highly. He’s no idiot and he is effective relative to his peers. I don’t care about his aggressive approach because it’s not important in that while it’s indicative of his underlying personality it’s nothing more than a small part of it. You look at the rest of it objectively and it stacks up fine.
Trevor can I ask, seriously, why it is that you don’t allow deviations from your party line on Red-Alert. I’m sure many here can name dozens of cases if you want to know what I’m talking about. It’s a serious question, a blog is a free forum, isn’t it?
July 31st, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Well I thought you were right Mr Mallard – the day did need lightening up and that was a non-controversial post and comment.
You should have left it there and told people to take a chill pill who took offence.
July 31st, 2010 at 2:41 pm
reid – on Clare’s post http://blog.labour.org.nz/index.php/2010/07/27/a-note-on-moderation/ there is a recent discussion on moderation and the reasons for our tightness and sometimes slowness. But the rules are pretty simple, don’t abuse, don’t tell lies and stick to the thread and you will be ok. On abuse and language I tend to draw a line at what I would be happy for intermeidate school aged kids using for school project work. Much tighter than Standard, Whaleoil or here but doesn’t stop reasoned debate. And as for not allowing deviations from the party line have a look at the comments on todays ECE post. We even allow ignorant rubbish.
July 31st, 2010 at 2:42 pm
“Trevor can I ask, seriously, why it is that you don’t allow deviations from your party line on Red-Alert.”
Kiss kiss.
July 31st, 2010 at 2:44 pm
Trevor Mallard said
And Spud! Is he Red Alert’s equivalent of Phillip Ure?
July 31st, 2010 at 2:54 pm
“the rules are pretty simple, don’t abuse, don’t tell lies and stick to the thread and you will be ok”
You think we’re ignorant plebs who came down in the last shower don’t you Trev?
July 31st, 2010 at 2:55 pm
“We even allow ignorant rubbish.”
Well, you’d have to, being on the left and everything…
;P
July 31st, 2010 at 3:04 pm
“Question; do you support electoral finance laws which limit speech such as the Electoral Finance Act? And If so how would you justify those on the basis that they enhance liberty?”
Surprise surprise Nick- no answer.
If you do turn up again Nichole, here’s a few other questions. Who said this-
“There is the great, silent, continuous struggle: the struggle between the State and the Individual; between the State, which demands, and the individual, who attempts to evade such demands.”
Or this-
“We must abolish the cult of the individual decisively, once and for all.”
Or this-
“We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society.”
Three different people, same old ideology.
July 31st, 2010 at 3:31 pm
At mallard – I call bullshit on your reason for pulling it. And think you gutless for doing so.
July 31st, 2010 at 4:03 pm
Dame missed the big T… or is that the lame T for trying to justify his action on censorship… Trevor has no friends let alone rainbow friends… within Labour… so he’s come to the right blog… we understand redneck males… especially red blooded ones… I would be happy for him to replace Philu.
And if your still around big T… (Q) do you think Andrew Little or David Cunliffe.
July 31st, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Moderation must be the PC word for censorship. Orwell would laugh – or cry.
So Fran O’Sullivan, after telling us the unions have scored an own goal and spitefully rained on NZ’s FTA parade by telling the US TU bloke not to visit this den of iniquity, tells us Helen Kelly buys her suit at Bloomingdales and stays at the Waldorf Astoria (her father would turn in his grave!) and the sainted Helen lives in the gilded Trump Tower of all places!
What with Chris’s flowers, helicopters and junkets and Anderton’s lavish travel, what can we poor taxpayers think of our socialist leaders? Even Mallard, who I think should find his cojones and roll Goff, lounged round Valencia for weeks to watch rich men racing their fancy boats.
Why do so many of our MPs and local body politicians think the public purse is theirs to raid for coffees and muffins and trips and bottles of Bolly?
Haven’t we had enough of this venal crowd? Time to clean out and clean up the Labour stables and return to some civic virtue.
July 31st, 2010 at 5:05 pm
A caller on the radio thought that the whole thing was a set up by Helen, and that she probably has a cosy little job set aside for Carter at the UN.
July 31st, 2010 at 5:08 pm
Fletch, does Helen need a new Gimp?
July 31st, 2010 at 5:15 pm
@ Fletch – I made the suggestion on Thursday night that Carter would be absolutely perfect for the role of UN Ambassador for the rights of GLBT people. He could travel the world to his heart’s content.
July 31st, 2010 at 5:25 pm
C’mon Trevor Mallard, be man enough admit you lacked the courage and balls to keep the post and bowed to rainbow pressure.
For once in your life, an honest admission of wrongness would be well received.
July 31st, 2010 at 5:31 pm
@inventory2
Very funny,his first port of call should be Iran followed by Saudi Arabia……He’d never collect his pension.
July 31st, 2010 at 5:42 pm
Trevor Mallard said
“And as for not allowing deviations from the party line have a look at the comments on todays ECE post. We even allow ignorant rubbish.”
Hipkins put up the post, which I guess is where the ignorant rubbish began. I thought Fisiani was on the money with his comment, and then Trev posted some ignorant rubbish. Neither Trev nor Chippy seem to have deviated from the party line, which is clearly to post ignorant rubbish.
July 31st, 2010 at 5:48 pm
The Rainbows now control Red Blurt. Trevor is a masterbanner. Give yourself two weeks on the mat for being naughty Trevor.
Lucky you did not ban yourself for life you jerk
July 31st, 2010 at 5:51 pm
sweetd says:
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
July 31, 2010 at 5:05 pm
“We have obligations towards the sick and the ailing because they cannot care for themselves”
Does this include help for Chris Carter, who, by reports from within labour is suffering mental health problems?
http://blog.labour.org.nz/index.php/2010/07/31/from-the-archive-walter-nash/comment-page-1/#comment-87342
Anyone are to take a bet if this passes “moderation” on red alert?
July 31st, 2010 at 6:31 pm
He deleted a blog post. Big whoop.
July 31st, 2010 at 6:52 pm
When Carter was calling Geoff Palmer a National Party lackey and lying through his teeth over whaling Mallard was Carter’s best mate.
Apparently lying is OK sometimes. Lying about whaling is fine if your’re in the Labour caucus. “Lying” about Goff not being able to win is a far greater sin.
Getting back into power is so much more important than whales.
Still, good to know Labour prefered to support Carter and insult Palmer. Shows all that’s wrong with Labour.
July 31st, 2010 at 7:28 pm
Trevor, it is mowree luggage week
Uma rapiti, uma rapiti, uma uma uma
July 31st, 2010 at 8:06 pm
At least Trevor Gets it.
chris73 says:
July 31, 2010 at 12:00 pm
A vote for Phil Goff is a vote for a prosperous NZ
One month ban for lying. Trevor
http://blog.labour.org.nz/index.php/2010/07/31/keys-lie-puts-free-trade-deal-down-us-agenda/
July 31st, 2010 at 8:12 pm
What a joke.
That is not a lie. That is merely the expression of opinion.
They’re just totalitarian thugs.
July 31st, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Andrew 12:09 .. I visited and commented on the Standard for about 2 weeks .. I pulled the pin and suggested that these people are so out there that they need serious investigation .. they are close to NZ’s Taliban.
Those who are banned, censored, under moderation etc on Redalert .. again, do what I did and post a goodbye and wish them well. Some, even Cactus from memory (god protect me if I am wrong), suggested that Redalert would become the No1 blog .. ummm does that prediction still stand I wonder?
ps .. Spud is a interesting person and we have a bet about the next election with a bottle of vodka on it .. not sure why vodka as I’m a whisky/rum guy .. I suspect my next comment on Redalert will be after the next election when I tell Spud where to send my winnings
July 31st, 2010 at 8:37 pm
@ Doug:
LOL
July 31st, 2010 at 8:43 pm
Trevor (177) what you said about allowing debate is rubbish.
In January I got a warning for challenging Claire on an issue.
When I pointed out that DPF had said the same as I did on the same thread without comment I copped a 3 month ban.
As you will be well aware I do not use bad language or abuse people but let me say this – there is a lot of hypocrisy at Red Alert and with its moderators. If you were as liberal as you say I should be able to say that at Red Alert without censure.
July 31st, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Trevor, it is mowree luggage week…
Trev thinks Maori get off lightly in the courts and his party put into law the FSA and Goff gave the “Nationhood” speech and they all opposed Maori TV getting the rights to the RWC.
they must think white union members are really stupid.
July 31st, 2010 at 11:10 pm
Trevor Mallard said:
You missed out: never ever mention Erin Leigh.
August 1st, 2010 at 12:18 am
Redbaiter and Nick Cross I think it’s fair to give everyone a level playing field, yes.
August 1st, 2010 at 10:58 pm
But the rules are pretty simple, don’t abuse, don’t tell lies and stick to the thread and you will be ok.
Missed out the biggest sin of all – don’t point out any mistakes, lies or hypocracies in their posts.
And don’t abuse – what a joke – this from the man who seems to think “the penguin” is a term of endearment for DPF.
Red Alert is basically informal press releases. Fine its their blog but it would be nice if they stopped pretending that they don’t weed out any comments that go against the party line.
August 1st, 2010 at 11:04 pm
I have made numerous comments on numerous issues at Red Alert that have gone against the Labour Party line, and haven’t had one of these deleted yet.