Goff attacks Key again
November 9th, 2011 at 10:42 am by David FarrarIt is becoming obvious that the last two weeks of the campaign are going to be non stop attacks on John Key. 3 News reports:
Labour leader Phil Goff says United States President Barack Obama is a great leader whereas Prime Minister John Key is a poor leader despite both nations having high unemployment and receiving credit downgrades since both leaders took office.
Unemployment in New Zealand has doubled and our credit rating has been downgraded twice by Standard and Poors since 2008.
The United States’ unemployment has also doubled since before the global financial crisis and they have received a credit downgrade too.
Mr Goff told Firstline this morning that President Obama and Mr Key are incomparable because they inherited different fiscal situations.
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November 9th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Yes, but , will people be happy if national get 49% of the vote, and Act fails to win epsom.
Goff can then patch up a government with maori and green support.
If so, gst will be removed from food, income taxes raised, minimum wage increased to $15, capital gains taxes, regressive union changes, $60 bucks a week more to dole bludgers with kids ……..urrggghhh!
I put Nationals chance at winning to be slightly above half. The problem for national, is the lack of credible partners on the right. Conservative party sounds like rubbish.
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 11:04 am
This election has been marked by bouts of pupulism. Labour’s efforts have been opportunistic, either new spending or restoring cuts. How far does that push Labour’s spending.
Vote:As for the Conservative Party, how dare they take that label with quite socialistic principles-opposing assets sales for example. They certainly won’t poll well in the regional areas(either will Labour) where only the unwashed would vote for them.
An election that will reflect very like the 2002 with National.
National voters get out and vote National on the List.
November 9th, 2011 at 11:05 am
Labour leader Phil Goff says United States President Barack Obama is a great leader
Really? Since when is Obama a “great leader”?
Name one good thing Obama has done since he has been in office.
He’s actually made things a whole lot worse as far as his country’s economy and with diplomatic relations – trying to befriend enemies like Iran (who make no secret of hating the U.S and everything it stands for), and turning against friends like Israel. Iran is well on it’s way to getting the nuclear bomb, by all accounts, and the U.S is doing nothing to stop it.
Obama is no great leader. And if Goff thinks he is, then I wouldn’t want Goff as a leader, either. Obama is not a good example to model yourself after.
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 11:07 am
He isn’t even sad. Just a completely pointless irrelevancy.
An utter fuckwit who still hasn’t worked out that one of the reasons for Key’s popularity and the surge in the melons’ support is because they just don’t engage in this type of bullshit (with the exception of the bitter old hobbit-hating slapper Malcolm).
And wrapped up in the repetition of yet another of his bare-faced lies that conveniently ignores the 2008 PREFU.
This fuckwit, this guild-edged premium-grade tool, with his silly walk, will go down as the biggest political failure in NZ politics.
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 11:18 am
tdm,
Vote:Your analysis of Mr Goff is spot on- but it is “gilt” not “guild” unless you are suggesting that he has some masonic associations.
November 9th, 2011 at 11:18 am
Poor old Phil. One really should feel for him.
Vote:He just continually says stupid things. Anyone would think Trevor was training him.
November 9th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Labour leader Phil Goff says United States President Barack Obama is a great leader
Cue more voters on Labour’s left moving across to the Greens,
Gee, did Phil not get the heads up on the Fairfax poll this morning which showed the Greens canabillising Labour’s vote, – Guess it must be time to tee up Clare Curran for another defensive stand on the left flank…..
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 11:22 am
Goff is desperately trying to appeal to the element of society who worship Obama as the “Messiah”. Trust me they are out there-even way down here in NZ.
Vote:I work with a girl who was gushing to the office that he is the “Greatest President they have ever had..” during one of his impressive teleprompter speeches on the news. When I dared to point out otherwise I was accused of being “racist”….
November 9th, 2011 at 11:24 am
Too early to say. My moneys still on English with Key running a close second.
The thing is to extrapolate out to say, 2018 and use a number of seemingly disparate indicators like ummm…education, crime , incarceration rates, jobless, debt, inequality.
cos going by those now Key is definitely the hands down winner at the mo.
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 11:25 am
Expecting anything of substance, let alone remotely factual, from Goff is solely the vapid preserve of Labour’s dreamers.
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 11:29 am
I wonder if Labour has group-hate sessions like in Orwell’s 1984 where they all stand in front of a photo of John Key and chant “Hate! Hate! Hate!” That seems to be their mindset, and it goes well with their doublethink policies.
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 11:29 am
Yes, but , will people be happy if national get 49% of the vote, and Act fails to win epsom.
Depends on the vote wastage. If 2-3% is wasted on parties that do not make it to parliament (Act, NZ First) then National’s 49% will be greater than the %age of the remaining parties combined….
Although they might be in trouble if there is an over hang.
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Diddums DPF
Vote:Its one of the downsides of going into an election campaign without coherent policy ,while hiding the unelectables
behind Mr smiley cardboard cut out man.
November 9th, 2011 at 11:35 am
It’s election season so of course Goff will try to attack/discredit Key at every opportunity. That’s his job. And to be balanced Goff also said this yesterday about Key’s first term:
- Unemployment increased by 50 per cent, leaving 157,000 people out of work.
Vote:- 100,000 Kiwis left for Australia
- Prices up nearly four times faster than incomes.
- First credit rating downgrade in 13 years.
- 60,000 more on benefits costing $1b
- Wage gap with Australia increased by $32 a week.
- 55,200 people aged 15 to 24 not in education, employment or training.
- Economy grown by just 0.4 per cent
- Tax cuts actually cost an extra $1.1b in their first nine months.
- Underclass grown with 32000 more children living on benefit dependent households.
November 9th, 2011 at 11:36 am
Hey hannity, your team is gonna lose, and its gonna lose HARD!
Vote:You might wanna suggest to Phil, nows the time to stock up on lube cause it aint gonna be pretty and it will be painful.
November 9th, 2011 at 11:37 am
diddums hannity. 3 more years (before Greens overtake Labour as the main opposition party)
Every time Phil Goff opens his mouth he loses another hundred voters
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 11:44 am
@ coolas, all that can be explained by two things, first the GFC, second by Labours complete mis-management of the NZ economy prior to National taking office – and guess what – the NZ public see that and blame Labour for it. Every time Phil Goof opens his mouth about the poor state of the NZ economy all he does is remind the voters how much Clark, Cullen as well as himself seriously screwed the kiwi economy.
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 11:45 am
projecting much ?
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 11:48 am
John Key may be dishonest but hes not stupid.
“Cup of tea Mr Banks”
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Because attacking Key worked so well in 2008.
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 11:51 am
projecting much ?
Sniff sniff BWAV, taking it a little hard with the polls? Just don’t take it too hard on election night when you see you team get completely rejected by the NZ electorate. Might pay to keep some tissues on hand for all the tears.
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 11:55 am
Banzai
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Taking it hard with the polls (poles) and keeping the tissues on hand
hmmm…fantasizing much too ?
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
it’s time for the Unions to unleash their dogs
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
So Bevan how do you scope this into your assertion of Labour’s ‘complete mis-management of the NZ economy prior to National taking office’
“Bill English had to swallow the proverbial dead rat this morning and effectively acknowledge that Michael Cullen had done something right in his stewardship of the Government’s finances in the past nine years.
Having condemned his predecessor for many years for paying off debt too quickly, English said: “I want to stress that New Zealand starts from a reasonable position in dealing with the uncertainty of our economic outlook.”
Audrey Young – December 2008
“In New Zealand we have room to respond. This is the rainy day that Government has been saving up for,” he told reporters at the Treasury briefing on the state of the economy and forecasts.
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Just one phrase: Three more years!
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
You lefist dickheads have about two weeks left to work out that saying “John Key is like mmmbad ya know” is not making anyone vote labour.
Keep your hand on it blackie, love your work for the national party.
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Anyone know if the Labour Party President (whoever he/she/it is) is about to do what Labour Party Presidents do at this point in the election cycle and bugger off to Aust to go dirt mining or whatever on John Key?
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
@Michaels “Anyone would think Trevor was training him”
To be honest I think it’s more likely to be Peter De Villiers …. Its that particular kind of mindless giberish that gives it away
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Cheers Murray…means a lot
no really !!!
Though for me it’s not about making anyone vote Labour.
It’s more about just saying that “John Key is like mmmbad ya know” and knowing that no one believes a man of integrity, such as myself, but time will always prove him right.
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Masterley
Thanks for the correction.
I must have been thinking of his moronic connections.
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Ross Miller – more likely they’ll bugger off to to the French Riviera with whatever is left in the Labour Party bank accounts.
Vote:Actually given the likely state of Labour’s finances, they’d be lucky if they could afford to bugger off to the Riviera of the South (Timaru)
November 9th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Tell Key to double what hes paying you Balckie, comedy gold right there.
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
BWAV
“My moneys still on English with Key running a close second.”
That’s why you don’t deserve to have any.
Maybe you should bet the chip on each shoulder. It would’t do you any harm to lose those.
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
What do you guys make of this from 2008 ?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sunday-star-times/features/249633/Who-is-John-Key
pick a line from it that best sums up your view of Key.
mine would be this…
But contrary to Key’s claim, bankers don’t always take a broad view of things. They focus on money, and are not necessarily rewarded for taking a long view.
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
So Bevan how do you scope this into your assertion of Labour’s ‘complete mis-management of the NZ economy prior to National taking office’
Was that before or after the Nats discovered the billion dollar hole in the ACC accounts?
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Ghost chips cuz….seeing thing that aren’t there !
…just like Key’s ghost jobs, creating the illusion of jobs with a smile, a wave and a magic slogan.
How soon before Key exits stage right in a vanishing act to parallel his arrival to NZ’s political theatre ?
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
ipredict should open a book on how many of the Liarbore partys top 10 will quit before the 2014 election.
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Goff is a sad little loser – he’ll never get any more voter support cos all he can do is whinge and whine, it’s all negative. The long-suffering voters of NZ had to put up with nearly a decade of that shit from Uncle Helen – voting for more of the same would be like turkeys voting for an early Xmas.
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Goff has no choice but to attack, it’s game on and Labour are rolling out their post RWC strategy. This will make for an entertaining pre amble to the election which would be hideously dull without Labour going feral.
Vote:Goff is an experienced politician, his attacks are expected and predictable, his target being Labour voters who may stray into the Greens camp or worse for Labour into Nationals camp.
This election may go down to the wire with the Greens and Maori Party holding the keys to the treasury benches.
November 9th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Blah blah John Key is evil blah blah.
Yeah thanks blackie, your insight has been shared, you can go now since you’ve got nothing else to say.
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
This election may go down to the wire with the Greens and Maori Party holding the keys to the treasury benches.
See, this is what is wrong with MMP.
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
no thanks neccessary Murray
Does that also mean only one of you nutjobs can run Key’s lines and the rest can just wank off privately ?
though i wouldn’t say he was evil per se, just untrustworthy and dishonest.
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
For the labour party politics is deeplypersonal. If you donot support them they hate you. Goff will now run a deeply personal campaign full of hate towards John key. Main thing for key is not to look weak when faced with these attacks.
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Murray’s contribution to this discussion:
>>”You lefist dickheads have about two weeks left to work out”
>>”HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Tell Key to double what hes paying you Balckie, comedy gold right there.”
>>”Blah blah John Key is evil blah blah.”
>>”Yeah thanks blackie, your insight has been shared, you can go now since you’ve got nothing else to say.”
~What a great advertisement for the right you are Murray. Such well reasoned points, delivered with devastating charm and wit~
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
ciaron
You could still be right, but perhaps not this election but 2014.
STOP PRESS
No H Fee yet but still looking
John Key slept with a woman last night.
A woman called “Bronnie” – Labour to investigate this behavior.
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
Obama is going to be a one-term president most probably, it doesn’t say much about Goof that he thinks Barack is something to aspire to…
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
Goff will now run a deeply personal campaign full of hate towards John key.
Good! That will surely turn off even more voters.
Red Wussel could find himself co-leader of the opposition the way Labour are going!
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
Lets not for a second think this isn’t deeply personal for Key either.
He seems such that he needs to prove himself the better man by winning this election not for the sake of the country, but for the sake of his competitive ego.
It’s not so much the kill, as the thrill of the hunt. Though he appears to relish sinking his fangs in and gorging on the fresh blood too…heh
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Underestimating the man again BWAV? Isnt that what has got the left into this mess?
Keep going, they way your lot is tracking the Nats will be rubbing their hands with glee at the prospect of the 2017 election!
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Paulus, my point was about disproportionate influence held by smaller parties, and as a consequence how policy that was campaigned upon can be now subject to all manner of compromise, all in the name of “stable government”.
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
A different attack, this time Gareth Hughes on Labour. The Dom Post has just had a Live Chat with the Ohariu candidates. Hughes carefully phrased round Labour in relation to their electorate support arrangement, but closed off the chat with a poke at Labour’s filibustering. Hughes versus Chauvel.
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Nah Bevan…i’m picking my estimation is about right. We’ll see in the long term if he gets in again and takes a backseat while others drive the economy off the cliff.
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
On a related note, Labour’s other Phil (Twyford) has attacked the political neutrality of a government department:
http://www.interest.co.nz/property/56615/labour-accuses-stats-nz-spinning-building-consent-numbers-during-election-campaign-do
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Nice spin again there David, though that’s not at all what happened. You got your dog whistle as usual though.
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
What really annoys me about Labours, and all on left, approach is that they are berating Nats for increased unemployment etc… and seem to be conveniently ignoring the global situation.
I found some of this very interesting, it really puts our situation into perspective.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13359367
Its a bit of a summary of the Eurozone situation with some nice simple graphs of various aspect for each EU Country. Deficit, GDP, Unemployment & Debt. Not a single Eurozone country has shown improvement in any of these areas since early 2008, yet Labour are grilling National that they havent improved things. Look at ireland… annual deficit of 30%, thats horrendous!!
Surely its obvious that there is more to it all than just the NZ governments management of the situation??
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
sure jem…
…but how many of those countries are flogging off their family silverware to supposedly pay the bills ?
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Nah Bevan…i’m picking my estimation is about right. We’ll see in the long term if he gets in again and takes a backseat while others drive the economy off the cliff.
BWAV, we’re talking about National, not Labour….
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
@ BWAV
Its not family silverwear, its property stolen by the state.
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/fairfax-media-poll/5931281/National-heading-for-outright-win
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
BWAV .
“but how many of those countries are flogging off their family silverware to supposedly pay the bills ?”
A slightly different situation wouldnt you think. Ireland for example , didnt have to sell anything, they simply asked for a huge bailout from the Eurozone…
I doubt Oz will bail us out….
Vote:November 9th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
the point is jem.
we dont HAVE to sell anything either. Key and English just want to !
Vote: