Dim Post thinks this might be a real ad
July 14th, 2012 at 1:41 pm by David Farrar
Danyl at Dim Post blogs:
The question is: is this a real ad, or a satire? Seems too extreme to be real – although dawn-raids era National was an overtly racist party. But were they this overt? If this was real wouldn’t it have entered into notoriety, along with the dancing cossacks ad? Wouldn’t we have heard about it before?
On the other hand, the nation was a lot more regional back then. It’s not impossible that this was an ad in a regional publication put out by a rural MP that nobody ever noticed until now.
Anyone who thinks this ever could have been a real National advertisement is somewhat detached from reality. I think it says more about them, and how desperately they’d want it to be true.
Jack Marshall was National Leader in 1972. He was known as Gentleman Jack for a reason – well known for his being non-confrontational and not liking aggressive politics. Marshall also was an opponent of the Springbok Tour, so this little smear campaign poster is very misplaced.
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July 14th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
He wasn’t the only one who considered the possibility that this may have been authentic. It says a lot about National and much of its legacy that a number of people have entertained the possibility that it is real
[DPF: Thank you for proving my point]
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
No it says a lot about the perverted mindset of the leftie nutters who came up with it.
Also it shows that the same leftie nutters are quite comfortable describing non white folks as niggers.
That tells me that the same leftie nutters are themselves unconsciously racist.
I hope the source of this can be traced – will be a mean smackdown – perhaps equal to when Labourites got snapped stealing wine bottles.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
Is that les gander? Hedid not strike me as overly racist. This is a labour Party hoax. The N word has been non pc for years
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
I thought that the dawn raid era followed the Kirk/Rowling Government which allowed almost uncontrolled immigration. Kirk died before that era and so the reference to him prostrating himself is a major blunder.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
I’ve just through the DimPost comments thread. It’s full of people trying to project their own stupidity, gullibility, and racism on to others. Now I remember why I stay away from the place.
I also suspect that no one there sees the irony that the racist parties these days are all on the left. The Greens, NZ First, and Labour are the ones that come out with knee jerk opposition every time China or Chinese people are involved in a political issue. It won’t need 40 years to elapse before people look back on the racist utterances of Russell Norman and Winston Peters and wonder how our era came up with that sort of filth.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 2:21 pm
I thought that the dawn raid era followed the Kirk/Rowling Government which allowed almost uncontrolled immigration. Kirk died before that era and so the reference to him prostrating himself is a major blunder.
Vote:Gandar was education minister and it is unlikely that he was an immigration spokesman
July 14th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
If there is a strong reaction by those on the Left regarding this trumped-up claim of ‘hate speech’ – then this is the kind of behaviour we associate with Eastern Europe under communism.
The Left can stay away from government for a little while longer while these sickos are in their ranks.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 2:28 pm
The thing with that ad though is that it pretty much says what many Kiwiblog commenters think. Harriet’s comment above being an example.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Another example being the retarded view of those who are against homosexuality (Andrei, Fletch, Scott, etc). They’d be perfectly fine with an ad saying: “Labour are faggot lovers.” About as detached from reality as those who think Labour are nigger lovers.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
No surprise, the extreme right wing Nat and ACT types would be more than happy to use the term nigger among themselves. Would be a touch dangerous to call a Maori that to his face.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
You guys have to remember that DimPost liberal urban elite lemmings are much more clevera and edumacated than everyone else.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Jimmy Smits#
You wouldn’t need a degree in history, or for that matter a degree in garage sales, to work out that at least one racist in the entire country would have kept one of these posters.
If your sicko mates on the left have to go this far to win an election – then yes – the country will be as fucked as the USSR was under state media control.
And NO we wouldn’t be fine with “Labour are faggot lovers” because Labour doesn’t like gays.
Why did Labour not go to the last election with Gay Marriage on the table ? Because they never went to an election with ‘prostitution’ on the table either. Labour sees gays as a liability.
The treatment of gays and prostitutes by Labour is dispicable.
Any one who knows me will tell you I have been saying as much for a year or more.Just ask over at stuff what Field Marshall has been saying about Labours treatment of gays.
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Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
grumpyoldhori – I have never heard that word used by anybody associated with National or ACT, even the tiny minority I considered closet racists. Not that it matters anyway – we support lower taxes and a state that is the servant of the people, not its master, and if you and bigoted ilk don’t like that, you can get fucked. Whatever you think we think of you, that’s what you are, my friend.
I don’t know who the fellow in the poster is, but it looks like some sort of student prank from the 1972 election.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
I’m not sure what all these accusations about ACT being anti-nigger are all about. Haven’t they met Richard Prebble?!
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
grumpyoldhori #
Maoris have Mana. Pakehas have pride. Asians save face.
Then we have the low-lifes who steal rape and kill.
Niggers. White Trash. Gooks.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
I have never heard an adequate explanation of why the dawn-raids were “racist”. Enforcing the law is not racist, though the law itself may be. If the issue is the law, then that should be attacked, not the people charged with enforcing it.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Interesting how similar things tend to appear at similar times on opposite sides of the globe.
Here’s a similar post on is it / isn’t it genuine.
Of course, when it comes to Americans who can tell truth from lie?
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Jimmy Smits (22) Says:
July 14th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Another example being the retarded view of those who are against homosexuality (Andrei, Fletch, Scott, etc). They’d be perfectly fine with an ad saying: “Labour are faggot lovers.” About as detached from reality as those who think Labour are nigger lovers.
It is a brilliant example of DPF’s point!
It took me about 10 seconds to do a google search on nzconservative.blogspot.com, and didn’t find a single use of the word “faggot” on the blog outside a couple of comments from non-authors of that blog.
I can also say that I have never used the word myself – even in real life. Thought I have published a couple of quotes such as this one:
http://halfdone.wordpress.com/2007/06/27/time-for-a-sermon/
One can only wonder what possessed you to make such an ironic comment that demonstrates the very biggitory this post is about.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
I think the fact that the poster is so offensive in today’s context says it all.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
The kerning is terrible – compare to a real one:
Vote:http://www.listener.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/nationalblackmailed.jpg
July 14th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Oh the irony of unfounded bigoted accusations like that in a thread like this!
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
‘not impossible this was an ad put out by a rural MP’
I take strong bloody exception to this statement. What does that mean? Only rural types would do something like that.
Vote:An apology would be what I expect from ms Levy.
Pronto.
July 14th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
The dawn raids were racist I recall the minister saying at the time in a heard of cown the freisans tend to stand out.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
grumpyoldhori, the most racist poster I have ever encountered on Kiwiblog, accusing others of racism. Classic, and backs up DPF’s post 100%.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Race baiting at its finest.
Vote:Either the National Socialists or the International Socialists.
A Mana or Labour ‘supporter’……take your pick.
Still works on the feeble minded as some of the above commenters prove.
July 14th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Why would that be? A Treaty of Waitangi claim? Some koha to settle?
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Most likely the effort of some ‘varsity students association – Auckland or Victoria I expect. In which case, paid for by compulsory union fees.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
I don’t think many people seriously considered this to be a real ad, besides it must be at least 40 years old. So…relevance?
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 4:16 pm
@alex
“I don’t think many people seriously considered this to be a real ad, besides it must be at least 40 years old. So…relevance?”
Relevance…
Vote:Somebody decided to post it on Facebook and both the Listener and Dimpost picked it up.
July 14th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
“The dawn raids were racist I recall the minister saying at the time in a heard of cown the freisans tend to stand out.”
That comment does not make enforcement of the (existing) law racist. It is a simple fact that someone who looks different will stand out. Did that particular Minister draft the Bill tvb? and who passed it into law?
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Kea dear boy, I remember the Seventies dawn raids, and the targets of those raids were the well tanned from the Islands.
Vote:If the government of the day had any interest in enforcing the law of the land they would have been locking up overstaying visitors from Britain.
July 14th, 2012 at 4:39 pm
tvb (2,720) at 3:51 pm
“The dawn raids were racist I recall the minister saying at the time in a heard of cown the freisans tend to stand out.”
Frankly, I’m not prepared to accept that as factual without some corroborating evidence. We have been given no name of the Minister allegedly responsible, no description of the context in which the alleged statement was uttered, no medium that we can research to find the supposed quote – nothing.
Can you give us any reason, tvb, to rely upon your statement as being historically accurate? (At least a bit more accurate than your punctuation, your spelling and your keyboard skills.)
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
I think it was mcready member for otaki who made that comment about the freisans. Calendar girl go back to school teaching with cheap remarks about keyboard skills
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Make that Alan McCready.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
“If the government of the day had any interest in enforcing the law of the land they would have been locking up overstaying visitors from Britain.”
And they did of course……
Te Ara – History of immigration
“…there was a controversial campaign to find Pacific Island ‘overstayers’ in dawn raids. Pacific Islanders were not the only targets of public opprobrium – anti-British ‘bash a Pom’ T-shirts appeared in Auckland.”
http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/history-of-immigration/16
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
grumpy: The only people I have heard using the N word for years are brown people to each other…apparently that’s quite alright..
I personally find “redneck” very offensive, but that doesn’t stop people using it with “gay abandon” as we said back in the day…
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
There is absolutly nothing I find offensive – other than lies, or the leaving out of facts.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
I saw this poster being promoted on Twitter and Facebook on Monday night, being used to try and drive racila divisions.
This was done by someone who helped run the Green election campaign. They have since removed links and apologised to National:
That’s fine – but there’s no apology for using it to promote racial division. Even if the poster had been real that was from forty years ago and has nothing to do with the current situation.
There are activists asssociated with different parties who will do some nasty stuff to try and achieve their goals.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Harriet: What a silly statement…so if you stumbled across a graphic image of, say, a baby being sexually abused you wouldnt find it offensive? How about a T shirt with “Harriet [surname] will have sex with anyone Ph…..” ? Not offended by that?
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
“There are activists asssociated with different parties who will do some nasty stuff to try and achieve their goals.”
No Pete, not different parties. They are always the same ones.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Yes, I’m sorry Captain Sensible’s adjutant, he’s got you there…I am struggling recall any character assasination or billboard defacing by other than Labour or the Melons…
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
There was a white supremacy faction within National in the early 1970s, who split from National in 1975 (over continued immigration from the Pacific Islands) to found the National Front. It’s not impossible that they printed out this kind of material and distributed it, much as Young Labour, Young Nats, ACT on Campus etc do today.
But Scott Hamilton pointed out to me that the language used is closer to that of UK based racists in the 1970s (Kenyan Wogs, etc) which suggests the idea that it was a UK pamplet cut and pasted onto a National Party one by one of the far right groups at the time (National Socialist White People’s Party etc). Which seems pretty plausible.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
“Of course, when it comes to Americans who can tell truth from lie?”
That is a bit racist, isn’t it Luke Mutton?
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Danyl: You are a couple of days behind old son…it’s now been conceded that it is a fake….
As anyone aged over 50 could have told you…
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
I still like the slogan: ‘Man for man, the strongest team’
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
@Gary2
“That is a bit racist, isn’t it Luke Mutton?”
No it isn’t, he meant white Americans.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
“No surprise, the extreme right wing Nat and ACT types would be more than happy to use the term nigger among themselves. Would be a touch dangerous to call a Maori that to his face.”
One of the worst anti Maori racist I came across in ACT was ex Labour of many years standing. BTW – why do you use a pseudonym?
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Yes I recall that slogan in 1972 but it did not work against Big Norm who was a bigger man in every way than them all. So the slogan man for man the strongest team was an own goal.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Mikey: I can actually remember that slogan…that part is accurate enough. but as someone pointed out a couple of days ago, it was also an accurate statement at the time…You could count the female MP’s on one hand in 1972…Actually if memory serves, that was the 1975 slogan….it worked too…a Labour landslide in ’72 followed by a Nat landslide three years later…
tvb: Are you sure that was the ’72 slogan?? I seem to remember it was ’75….doesnt matter I guess…
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
DG #
“….What a silly statement…so if you stumbled across a graphic image of, say, a baby being sexually abused you wouldnt find it offensive? How about a T shirt with “Harriet [surname] will have sex with anyone Ph…..” ? Not offended by that?..”
Of course I would find any assault detestable.It’s also illegal.
I was meaning freedom of speech.That is also btw different to ‘freedom of expresssion’ – giving someone the fingers is not speech.It is another anatomical action.T-shirts as you suggest are the same.I’m being serious.Everyone should have the right to say something, but t-shirts, placards ect are really ‘published’ matters.There is no need for these as you are not being denied any of your rights to freedom of speech by being denied these.People who want stuff published in the public arena can do so – who of late has taken newspaper editors or printing companies to court for their ‘rights being denied’ ? No one is.
Talking about activity such as legalising child sex and matters like that, I believe should definetly be allowed, but you have to by law, put your face, name, address, and maybe your parentage to two generations ago to it.
I did say ‘other than lies’ – it is a lie that I would sleep with anyone.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
tvb:It is fascinating – but also a bit pointless I suppose – to wonder what would have happened if Kirk hadn’t died when he did…I suspect they would have been re-elected in ’75 but would have made a complete hash of things…do you remember the MRP scheme? They were right into the kind of regulation that Muldoon tried and which was such a miserable failure in the early 80′s…
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
The left and the unions are nuts about race. They hold working men in contempt.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Danyl: You are a couple of days behind old son…it’s now been conceded that it is a fake….
David Garrett – I did miss that. Can you link to your source so I can post it on my blog?
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Dg
Vote:One can only imagine what the NZ Superannuation Fund would be worth today had it not been dumped in 1975.
July 14th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Mikey: Yes indeed…are you aware Roger Douglas designed that? Probably Muldoon’s biggest mistake – and that’s saying something – was scrapping the Super Scheme…
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
It was designed when Douglas was a socialist, of course, but before he discovered it was much easier to legislate on the basis of Treasury briefing papers than come up with one’s own ideas.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
MM#
“…One can only imagine what the NZ Superannuation Fund would be worth today had it not been dumped in 1975…”
For an individual, bigger than the average aussies – their’s started in ’91.
NZ’s was a differant form though, so -
I don’t know what the average withdrawl each week from super by those who ‘are’ retired in aus is.
But the average amount accumulated is about $55k – but that includes the 14ylds at maccas who opened an account last week with $5.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Oh dear Mikey….you actually had some in depth discussions with Roger, did you?
His view certainly changed…he worked out – among other things – that throwing money at the poor and at welfare didn’t work…
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
A lot of the opposition to the NZ Superannuation Fund came from those who saw it as a backdoor method to state control over the private sector. There was little scope for investing in the overseas equity markets. Eventually the fund would have grown to a point where it owned controlling shares in every listed company.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
Oh yes, and did we stop throwing money at the poor? But specifically on Sir Roger, it is interesting to compare his prescription in ‘There’s Got to be a Better Way’ and the Treasury’s ‘Economic Management’ to see where the ideas behind ‘Regoernomics’ actually came form.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
I’ve been accused of racism a few times lately too, it seems to be that any perceived criticism or offence directed at Maori is a major offence. John Key found this out with his Monday comment.
There is someone at TS who calls themselves Te Reo Putake (previoulsy used a different pseudonym). They have harrassed me for a year, sometimes virtual stalking. Over the last month he has frequently called me a liar – no proof of course, just decided that’s the current attack line.
This morning he posted:
PB was wrong. I decided to dig back and called him Te Reo Puthetic.
Someone caling themselves ‘marty mars’ (a mangle of English) jumped in:
I suggested that Te Reo P was repeatedly discrediting Māori with his repetitive attacks using a Māori name. Response:
I said I’d apologise after he got Te Reo P to apologise. That hasn’t happened yet.
This shows how (only some) Māori dish out crap and demand respect in return. They’re blind to their hypocrisy, and make it much harder for Māori who do understand what’s necessary to get on together.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Dawn raids……extraordinary how the lawful activity of the authorities can be cast by the left and the MSM as racist.
But that’s the point isn’t it,to undermine your opposition with falsehoods and name calling rather than open ,fair debate.
Control the language and you control the argument.
And before long “racist” language or hate speech will be a crime.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
“….I’ve been accused of racism a few times lately too, it seems to be that any perceived criticism or offence directed at Maori is a major offence. John Key found this out with his Monday comment…”
racism is being redefined to include not only hateful references to someone’s colour, but any reference to it at all.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
PB: So why do you bother going there? You are never going to change any of their utterly closed minds…Do you actually LIKE being insulted?
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
As you are reading the thread Danyl could you apologise to those of us who are rural, for insinuating it could have been a rural MP who came up with the poster.?
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 7:22 pm
This on the other hand, is genuine.
Vote:http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/08/labours_donor_letter.html
July 14th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Ah, the rural thing reminds me of a question I once saw on Yahoo Answers. Basicially, they asked why rural folks leaned to the right.
Naturally, I started thinking of the way that rural people have to deal with the realities of life – dependent on the weather and their own wits.
First answer “they never meet black people so they’re bigots”.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 7:42 pm
tvb: “I think it was mcready member for otaki who made that comment about the freisans.”
“Make that Alan McCready.”
“Yes I recall that slogan in 1972 but it did not work against Big Norm who was a bigger man in every way than them all. So the slogan man for man the strongest team was an own goal.”
Thank you for doing some spell-checking of your later comments, rather than subjecting us further to the carelessness of 3:51pm. (The cattle breed is “friesian”, but anyone could get that wrong.)
Sadly, you have still provided no corroboration for your original claim of racism, other than your own memory. That’s simply not good enough for such an allegation against a deceased man who can no longer defend himself.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
What Danyl said at 5.44 has yet to be discounted. He might be warming up for the last laugh.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Labour Party, the nasty Party. This reeks from Red Blert and the Strandard.
Vote:Child psychology anyone? Just Dan making noises. Strandard are famous for monochrome images to get attention
July 14th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
What happened in thwe 1970s might be of historical interest but it has nothing to do with what’s happening now.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Standard propaganda. Why is anyone surprised? The only repeat only thing I’m surprised about is how long its taken the left to cotton on to the wide open opportunity the conservatives have left for it, all this time.
Der.
Doesn’t anyone from either side, know what they are doing, in the propaganda field, in this country?
Evidently not. So what the fuck is wrong with these idiots and is the final vote going to come down to propaganda, not substance?
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
I remember a debate during the Springbok tours. A Maori rugby player was called “Uncle Tom” for speaking in favour by Trevour Richards. Angered he made scathing reference to “coming with other mens wives (referring to Trevour Richards?).
The left needs racism because they need membership, because they don’t make much headway with Joe Public.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 9:24 pm
scrubone – The kerning is terrible – compare to a real one
http://www.listener.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/nationalblackmailed.jpg
Not only is the kerning [letter spacing] terrible on ‘Labour are nigger lovers’ it is hopelessly wrong between the r and e of ‘are’, and o, v and e, and r and s of ‘lovers’.
Then the typeface of the ‘nigger’ headline is a different font to ‘blackmailed’ – notably the letter ‘e’ end cut slopes in ‘nigger’ line, is parallel in the other and indents in ‘a’ and ‘r’ are deeper on the ‘blacmailed’ typeface.
All caps body type in ‘nigger lovers’ is non-format compared to ‘blackmailed’ with is accepted as an original in the 1972 campaign.
The ‘nigger’ poster, had it existed, would surely have featured in
Vote:Anti-racism and Treaty of Waitangi activism
- http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/anti-racism-and-treaty-of-waitangi-activism/3/5
July 14th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
Having seen how the Dim Post has been going lately, wouldn’t particularly surprise me if Danyl me old mate, you pasted that up yourself, or you know damn well who did. Good fun though isn’t it, and just might get that poor old load of pseudo uncle Toms in the maori Party to break off with national and come home to where they can be truly patronized. However it does display all the professionalism and ability of the left, and the credulity of the same.
Nasty little closet racists the left, the whole fucking lot of you. Deliberate falsehoods designed to induce race hatred and overt violence, and the likelihood of any action by the race hating “race relations ” office, zilch.
Vote:July 14th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
An ‘improved’ copy which nobody would take seriously anyway. If it had been mass circulated we would all recall, but who knows who might have reproduced it and when. Danyl is suggesting it was a nazi breakout in the relevant time, distributed to the disaffected. Personally I don’t care and wonder why DPF published it.
Vote:July 15th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Smacks of Trevor and Grunty at work.
Vote:July 15th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Humans are racist. One of the fundamental things an organism has to do is distinguish them and us. in fact they have done experiments where they group subjects around eye (or hair? ) colour and people favour their own group. It is a matter of how you deal with it and your degree of prejudice. The racists aren’t necessarily wrong all the time however when at particular times/ circumstances certain racial groups may demonstrate bad behaviours significantly over and above the rest of the population.
Vote:The left-stngers (like Luc Hansen, Scott Hamilton, Water Melon’s etc) distinguish themselves by being racist to their own race. They would argue that this isn’t possible?
July 15th, 2012 at 9:53 am
I think you confusion racism (behaviour motivated by racial stereotypes) with an underlying psychological reaction to physiological differences.
Vote:July 15th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
“Psychologists have long known that many of our prejudices operate automatically, without us even being aware of them. Most people, even those who care deeply about equality, show some level of prejudice towards other groups when tested using the IAT. Despite this overwhelming evidence that our brains are wired for bias, our society continues to think about prejudice as premeditated behavior. Our current laws against discrimination, as well as the majority of diversity training programs, assume that prejudice is overt and intentional. Rarely do we teach people about how automatic prejudices might taint their behavior towards others.
The fact that prejudice often occurs automatically doesn’t mean we can’t find ways of overcoming its negative effects. For example, there is evidence that when people are made aware of their automatic prejudices, they can self-correct. And when we are encouraged to take the perspective of an outsider, it reduces our automatic prejudice towards that person’s group.”
Vote:http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=evolution-of-prejudice&page=2
July 15th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
I’m not doubting that. I think when we talk of racism, we should really be thinking of conscious actions based on bigotry. For example, believing that one race is superior, or inferior, to another and purporting to show that such a belief is based on ojective grounds.
Vote:July 16th, 2012 at 6:29 am
I can just imagine the tittering that must have accompanied the production of this hoax. Do they kiss their mothers with those potty mouths?
However, I shudder to imagine the number of people who will be taken in by it and believe it is genuine, as it slowly slips into the cultural pool, to re-emerge as ‘fact’ every so often. For once, I agree with sponsors putting their names and addresses on their political posters…
Is poster this ‘legal’, if it’s by anyone affilliated to a political party can it be investigated??
Vote:July 16th, 2012 at 11:53 am
Bahahaha the faux outrage of the DPF is quite funny also…
I notice a lot of people in the discussion are saying it is almost certainly not real (there is no tradition of using “nigger” in NZ, and especially not “yellow niggers” etc etc) but that nevertheless the general tone of it isn’t all that much more racist than many National Party people of that era actually were.
I also notice a lot of the people commenting on there write a lot more calmly and concisely than most people here, that helps me think they are more likely to be right…
Vote:July 16th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Posters like these were regular features in student newspapers in the 70′s. At a guess I would say that this one would be a reproduction from Craccum.
Vote:July 17th, 2012 at 7:21 am
I just think this verges on being an electoral issue, have we entered an era where this kind of media and political activity is becoming acceptable by some? If possible the people who did it should be unearthed. If it turns out they are linked to one of our political parties, then it is a serious issue.
Vote: