The Des Moines Register endorses Mitt Romney

October 29th, 2012 at 10:00 am by David Farrar

The Des Moines Register has endorsed Mitt Romney. Why is this news. The last time the Register endorsed a Republican for President was in 1972. They endorsed Jimmy Carter twice, Walter Mondale, Michael Dukasis, John Kerry etc. For them not to endorse Barack Obama, is momentous.

The Register is the daily newspaper of the largest city in Iowa, and it is a swing state – only six electoral votes, but not a state Obama will want to lose.Iowa has voted Democrat five of the last six presidential elections.

Why did they endorse a change:

American voters are deeply divided about this race. The Register’s editorial board, as it should, had a vigorous debate over this endorsement. Our discussion repeatedly circled back to the nation’s single most important challenge: pulling the economy out of the doldrums, getting more Americans back in the workforce in meaningful jobs with promising futures, and getting the federal government on a track to balance the budget in a bipartisan manner that the country demands.

Which candidate could forge the compromises in Congress to achieve these goals? When the question is framed in those terms, Mitt Romney emerges the stronger candidate.

The former governor and business executive has a strong record of achievement in both the private and the public sectors. He was an accomplished governor in a liberal state. He founded and ran a successful business that turned around failing companies. He successfully managed the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City.

Romney has made rebuilding the economy his No. 1 campaign priority — and rightly so.

Romney wants this election to be about the economy.

He is still trailing in the electoral college vote, but slightly ahead in the popular vote. It is possible Obama could do a George W Bush and lose the popular vote, but still get elected.

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65 Responses to “The Des Moines Register endorses Mitt Romney”

  1. Mighty_Kites (85 comments) says:

    So a newspaper with a history endorsing failed candidates has endorsed Romney? Good to know

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  2. eszett (2,432 comments) says:

    He is still trailing in the electoral college vote, but slightly ahead in the popular vote. It is possible Obama could do a George W Bush and lose the popular vote, but still get elected.

    I wonder if that then would be enough to finally get support to ditch this outdated and antiquated electoral system of the electoral college.

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  3. dime (10,135 comments) says:

    still 8 days to go? a long time in politics.

    Romney has the religious right turning out this time. They didnt really bother with mccain.

    A big percentage of obamas base are nothing but lazy sacks of shit. will they bother? maybe the dems will give out free kfc?

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  4. Manolo (14,084 comments) says:

    As the most prominent NZ political blog, I look forward to KB’s endorsement of Romney.

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  5. rouppe (984 comments) says:

    But Romney wants to keep enormous military spending going. One of the best ways of getting their expenses down is to get out of Iraq and Afghanistan. The cost in munitions alone of the free-firing US military must be enormous

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  6. Fairfacts Media (372 comments) says:

    The Democrats haven’t been giving out KFC but they did get various state governments to give out Obamaphones.

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  7. Tom Jackson (2,553 comments) says:

    Does it really matter who wins? American electoral politics lost its tenuous hold on reality some time ago. What’s the phrase? “Two bald men fighting over a comb”?

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  8. Fairfacts Media (372 comments) says:

    Great video on what Obama supporters think of His actual policies.
    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/10/26/question-for-obama-supporters-what-do-you-think-of-mitt-romneys-kill-list/

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  9. Manolo (14,084 comments) says:

    Does it really matter who wins?

    Yes, it does!
    Do you have any investments, Tom? Do you care about the value of your portfolio going up instead of down?

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  10. dime (10,135 comments) says:

    but but manolo, the stock market has gone up under obama… zzz

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  11. Tom Jackson (2,553 comments) says:

    Do you have any investments, Tom? Do you care about the value of your portfolio going up instead of down?

    The fact that you and countless others have been reduced to thinking that this sort of thing is a sufficient reason to vote for or against a candidate is the problem.

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  12. dime (10,135 comments) says:

    tom – slight difference between hoping some guy in another country wins to improve your portfolio and voting in your own country for that reason.

    apart from that, Dime always gives a huge weighting to the national economy when voting.

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  13. Manolo (14,084 comments) says:

    Dime, not entirely true. Take a look at DJI and Nasdaq indices and correct them after the decline in value of the US dollar. Tell me if you’re better off.

    The limitless printing of money by the Federal Reserve, under the watch of the Messiah’s administration, has devalued the USD.

    Be my guest, Tom. You and your ilk can vote for financial incomptence and poverty as much as you want.

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  14. tom hunter (5,096 comments) says:

    So a newspaper with a history endorsing failed candidates has endorsed Romney? Good to know

    Jimmy Carter loses in 1980
    Walter Mondale loses in 1984
    Michael Dukakis loses in 1988
    Al Gore loses in 2000
    John Kerry loses in 2004

    But ….
    Jimmy Carter wins in 1976
    Bill Clinton wins in 1992
    Bill Clinton wins in 1996
    Barack Obama wins in 2008

    So a record of 4/9, a predictive success rate of 44%.

    On the other hand this is Mighty_Kites, whose ambition is to replace Hamnida as KB’s dumbest left-wing commentator.

    Does it really matter who wins?

    I’ve argued much the same over the last few months.

    But here’s the thing I note about left-wing commentators around the world when it comes to US elections – when a Democrat wins, the air is filled with triumphant cries and noises about Americans finally coming to their senses, progressing beyond “old” ideas, and following the Social-Democratic path of the rest of the West, yada, yada, yada.

    Whereas every time it looks like the Democrats are going to lose, we get comments like the one above. In fact the last time I remember NZ leftists shrugging their shoulders about the failure of a useless US Presidential Democrat candidate, and saying that it didn’t matter who won ….. was in the 2000 election.

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  15. Tom Jackson (2,553 comments) says:

    Be my guest, Tom. You and your ilk can vote for financial incomptence and poverty as much as you want.

    “Either way you look at it you lose…”

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  16. dime (10,135 comments) says:

    Manolo – sarcasm.

    Companies have run out of expenses to cut. They have been stock piling cash, rather than reinvesting the money. If Obama gets back in its downhill me thinks

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  17. Redbaiter (9,659 comments) says:

    “Two bald men fighting over a comb”

    That’s good Tom, and thanks for the laugh. There was a time when I would have most likely agreed with the sentiment that joke implies.

    However since I have witnessed the strategies of the left in supporting Obama, and become more aware of the absolute corruption this Chicago based gang of crooks and their nationwide backers bring with them, I find myself at the point where I consider it essential for America’s freedom that Obama is stopped and therefore Romney, as pitiful as he and the Republicans are, must win.

    Obama I think has achieved something he never really intended to do, and that is awaken people who were previously slumbering in blissful ignorance, to the news that the American republic is facing the greatest threat to its survival it has ever faced.

    Worse than any war they have fought overtly abroad, is the desperate war they must fight within America against an army of shadowy and deceitful subversives led by Obama and who seek to deliver that country, hog tied and bound, to its global enemies.

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  18. Grendel (1,005 comments) says:

    http://www.dilbert.com/blog/entry/firing_offense/

    Interesting article about why, regardless of the benefits for or against Romney, Obama should be fired.

    Adams tries to portray himself as an independent, as do lots of wealth democrats. however he is slightly more intelligent than most democrat celebrities in that he can think rationally.

    a fascinating read anyway, and in this case, i completely agree with him. read it at his blog, so you get the whole thing in context.

    hes followed it up here

    http://www.dilbert.com/blog/entry/interesting_day/

    after the usual bouts of ranting and raving and reading out of context.

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  19. Redbaiter (9,659 comments) says:

    “I wonder if that then would be enough to finally get support to ditch this outdated and antiquated electoral system of the electoral college.”

    An example of the same kind of uneducated ignorant of history viewpoint that is abroad among Obama supporters in the US, who find the complexities of a Constitutional Republic style of government far beyond their comprehensive abilities.

    They can though text their mangled English derived language real fast on their taxpayer supplied Obamaphones.

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  20. Reid (16,638 comments) says:

    It certainly is looking Romney at the mo.

    The issue I have with Romney apart from the way he made his money, is his relationship with Netanyahu dating back to BCG days, which almost certainly will result in an attack on Iran, which is world-level emergency territory and furthermore its not even necessary because Iran is never going to do anything aggressive. It hasn’t for 300 years. That’s how long it’s been since Iran invaded anyone. That’s not a bad record, is it. Somehow this fact has become lost in the carefully crafted messaging however resulting in lots of people thinking Iran is going to do something really mental at any minute, so we must attack her first, to save ourselves. So a lot of people are thinking that right now, and not as many people are thinking about what happens after that.

    This is good from the both-sides-are-bad dept:
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/stop-calling-this-number-why-the-us-is-sick-of-barack-obama-and-mitt-romney-8228763.html

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  21. dime (10,135 comments) says:

    hey reid. ive never assualted anyone. ive never been charged with anything. a clean record.

    if i start saying im going to make a lead pipe and when i finally construct the thing, im going to beat the living fuck out of you with it. youre cool with that? cause i have no history of doing it.

    ill go on tv saying it, ill do youtube videos etc. obviously the police shouldnt have an issue…

    lemme guess. reid isnt a big US fan? or a big israel fan…

    as to how romney made his money – Dime is a big fan of capitalism and god bless him for being an inspiration

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  22. GJKiwi (175 comments) says:

    I must have missed something somewhere. When G W Bush was running the economy, it went right down hill, and Obama has successfully assisted in its recovery. Now, you want to endorse another Republican candidate who you think will create more jobs and grow the economy, when in fact Romney will probably print even more money, increase the spending on the military, decrease taxes for the rich and increase the taxes on the middle-class, and decrease spending on education, and attempt to remove the health-care reforms that the Obama administration has implemented. The Obama administration saved the US automobile industry which saved millions of jobs. GM, Ford and Chrysler almost all went to the wall, along with companies in other industries, all because the Bush administration policies, which included lending to people who were so poor they should never have been loaned money in the first place. Republicans outspend Democrats by a huge margin, yet always blame the Democrats for spending too much. During the prime Republican years of 1981 to 1992, the US debt went up by USD 12 Trillion. Under GW, it again increased. Obama has been implementing policies to decrease spending and he gets the blame for the dive taken by US economy in 2008. Without him, who knows where they would be? Using Romney’s policies, the US car manufacturing would have ceased to exist. He voted against the bail-out. Under Clinton, the US economy grew at an unparalled rate, because Clinton invested in education and healthcare, making the US a knowledge based economy. I despair at the thought of what Romney would bring to the US. He would reverse positive social policy, increase spending on the US military and probably implement other policies that would make the US a worse place to live and the world would be worse off to boot. That being said, he would probably be 10x the president that GW Bush was.

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  23. dime (10,135 comments) says:

    GJ – thanks for the huff post bulletin. you seemed incredibly well schooled on the US economy.

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  24. RRM (10,034 comments) says:

    Meh – Obama cut state spending and hammered home the war in Iraq. So naturally the right hate him. Wtf?!?

    What’s the “right” party in U.S. national politics stand for, exactly?

    (Something about women who get pregnant from rape must have enjoyed it?)

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  25. Lance (2,719 comments) says:

    It’s kinda hard getting excited about Romney when he was the best of a bunch of second rate options.
    There must have been a Republican out there that could capture the public’s imagination that doesn’t have a zipper problem, fraud or other fundamental failing.
    Regan was the last one to do that.

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  26. GJKiwi (175 comments) says:

    Lance: Oh, you mean the Reagan who increased the US debt by 8 trillion?

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  27. Redbaiter (9,659 comments) says:

    GJ – thanks for the huff post bulletin. you seemed incredibly well schooled on the US economy.

    FFS, what hope is there?

    That is such an incredible litany of lies and distortions and it is only in NZ, where ignorance of America is so deep, that such unmitigated and partisan bullshit could get uncritical traction.

    Watch this video-

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  28. Reid (16,638 comments) says:

    Dime is a big fan of capitalism and god bless him for being an inspiration

    No I meant it was drug money, dime. His fund returned something amazing like a year on year 24% average when the market was around the 6-10 and he did that for ten years. No-one is that lucky. He did it because he was laundering drug money.

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/10/15/breaking-romneys-bain-capitol-drug-front-for-bush-cartel-video/

    reid isnt a big US fan? or a big israel fan…

    To the contrary dime I love the American and the Israeli people, I simply don’t think either govt ever but rarely does the right, as in, correct thing. This is detrimental to their own people, IMHO, and unlike some people, I don’t seem to have any trouble looking straight through all the treacly patriotic b.s. that some people seem to get all tangled up in. I mean seriously dime, you could use your analogy of Iran with a bat with precision on the way that Israel has demonstrably acted, time after time, for years and decades. Operation Cast Lead, the invasion of Lebanon, the wall, the storming of the aid convoy, to name a few recent and ongoing measures that it didn’t need to take and simply exacerbated the situation.

    I mean lots of people caught up in the treacly patriotic b.s. mess seem to hallucinate that for example, it was really necessary for “secuwity purposes” to use white phosphorous on civilians during Cast Lead, or invading Lebanon because of the tewwible storm of weally big wockets. But no, looking at it without the treacly patriotic b.s. glasses on, one sees it was all a bit counter-productive. In Lebanon, the IDF took the biggest hit to its reputation it has ever taken, when it was forced to withdraw.

    I see the same things with the US dime like the way they’ve prosecuted the war on terror which didn’t need to be done this way and could have been done much more successfully but instead the way it’s been prosecuted has now resulted in instability and violence for the foreseeable future, with elevated risk levels of unfriendly forces taking over in a number of different countries. It didn’t have to done this way. It isn’t a military failure, it’s a political failure.

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  29. GJKiwi (175 comments) says:

    Dime: well-schooled? Oh, you mean I pay attention. I take it you were jesting when you mentioned the Huffington Post, which I don’t subscribe to at all.

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  30. Redbaiter (9,659 comments) says:

    Obama’s mission is to destroy the US economy so as to sequentially destroy the American armed forces.

    Help him all you can commies.

    You’ll love it when you’re made to line up at parades in Wellington and Auckland and tug your forelocks to the Chicoms (already in Fiji) or the Russkies as their “statesmen” drive past and wave graciously to you.

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  31. Redbaiter (9,659 comments) says:

    “Oh, you mean I pay attention.”

    I think what he meant is you ought to stop relying so exclusively on left wing propaganda and get some real information.

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  32. dime (10,135 comments) says:

    red – i was being sarcastic.

    GJkiwi – i cant be assed fact checking your “8 trillion debt increase” under reagan.. i just keep hearin the 4 trillion under obama is the most of any president.. i think their total debt is 12 trillion? so i guess no other president increased the national debt huh

    quick question GJ, what was the increase in GDP under Reagan? and what was it under Obama?

    RRM – obama kept to bush’s iraq schedule. as for decreased state spending. huh? is that cause federal spending went through the roof???

    if Obama wins he is planning 500 billion worth of tax increases, per year. that is not a good thing for the world economy.

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  33. tom hunter (5,096 comments) says:

    I love rants like those of GJKiwi, as it creates a target-rich environment. Let’s start with some of the easy stuff:

    During the prime Republican years of 1981 to 1992, the US debt went up by USD 12 Trillion. Under GW, it again increased.

    LMGTFY: as you can see from this chart, US Federal Gross debt increased from about $US 2 trillion when Reagan became President to about $US 6 trillion in 1992. It then increased to a little under $7.5 trillion during Clinton’s time, $US 11 Trillion under Bush and has now reached $16 trillion under Obama.

    I might deal with your other points as the day progresses, but the sheer, blatant ignorance of this one point – so easily checked – makes me feel that it’s not worth my time. About the truest thing you said was: I must have missed something somewhere.

    Substitute “everywhere”.

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  34. dime (10,135 comments) says:

    This hurricane – potentially good for Obama? The media will paint him as a saint no doubt.

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  35. Tom Jackson (2,553 comments) says:

    Obama’s mission is to destroy the US economy so as to sequentially destroy the American armed forces.

    Pray tell who gave him this “mission”?

    I would have thought they were doing it themselves without him. After all their latest fighter plane chokes its own pilots.

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  36. Fairfacts Media (372 comments) says:

    This Lena Dunham parody cleverly highlights how Obama has conducted his own ‘war on women’ by thinking females only care about their ladyparts.

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  37. tom hunter (5,096 comments) says:

    I did like this update from Dilbert’s piece:

    [Update: Congratulations to Politico for being the first to take this post out of context. I’m a little disappointed in Jezebel, Gawker and Salon for being slow to the party. Are all of their context-removers on vacation or something?]

    [Update 2: Nipping on the heels of Politico, Mediaite.com weighs in with their own out-of-context outrage. They managed to throw in some charges of racism and something about rape. Well done.]

    Sounds like Mediate is run by Luc Hansen.

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  38. Tom Jackson (2,553 comments) says:

    You’ll love it when you’re made to line up at parades in Wellington and Auckland and tug your forelocks to the Chicoms (already in Fiji) or the Russkies as their “statesmen” drive past and wave graciously to you.

    That won’t be Obama’s fault. It’s coming because the United States transformed itself from a Republic into a Meritocracy. Americans are now so obsessed with themselves and their own private lot that they are mostly incapable of the kind of collective action that enabled earlier victories. Case in point: having formerly been the designers of many of the world’s best military aircraft, they now produce expensive lemons.

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  39. Redbaiter (9,659 comments) says:

    A good blog article on the Benghazi attack and mainstream media complicit cover up-

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/09/21/boldly-into-the-breach/

    Read the comments.

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  40. dime (10,135 comments) says:

    expensive lemons?

    really? the F22 is light years ahead of anything any other country is capable of! que the pics of chinese planes on runways with no engines. from memory the f22’s were grounded for a few months.. turned out to be a problem with the pilots vest.

    nothing like a kiwi, giving the yanks shit about their technology. what the fuck have we done lately? a new and improved sheep drench!? course, the pc/tablet or smart phone you typed that shit on has no tech from the US…

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  41. Enzo (45 comments) says:

    So the last Republican they endorsed was Richard Nixon. How’d that work out for them? No wonder they haven’t done it again since.

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  42. dime (10,135 comments) says:

    the yanks hope to have the X51 flying at mach 6 next year.. its already done mach 5.. but hey, during the last test the prototype crashed so their tech must be garbage…

    and then of course there is the shit we dont know about. im scared to think :P

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  43. RRM (10,034 comments) says:

    The U.S. air force first got to Mach 6 in 1961. I note that they built three aircraft, and didn’t bother replacing them when they broke, or building anything else that fast subsequently.

    I’m no military strategist genius… but how fast do you need to fly to take out angry little islamic fuckers with AK47s and explosive belts?

    It took them the best part of ten years to find public enemy #1 Osama bin Laden, and all the time he was just commuting between a cave and his great big house in the burbs. I don’t really understand why they think a new high-performance stealth fighter is what they need…

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  44. Lance (2,719 comments) says:

    @RRM
    Kick ass hyper drive fighters make great movies.

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  45. Lance (2,719 comments) says:

    You know, where Arnie single handed takes out all terrorists in one mission while ‘pissing metal’ as they all cooperatively line up to be shredded by the new kick ass fighter.

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  46. Changeiscoming (200 comments) says:

    Yip you can lose the popular vote and still win the election. Happened in our country too and we dumped the horrid FPP system on its butt.

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  47. dime (10,135 comments) says:

    RRM – maybe the yanks dont have major threats because their tech is so good? or would you prefer a fair fight?

    “it took them the best part of ten years to find public enemy #1 Osama bin Laden, and all the time he was just commuting between a cave and his great big house in the burbs. ”

    wouldnt have taken us kiwis that long? nup, we are orsome!

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  48. Manolo (14,084 comments) says:

    RRM, do not let your anti-American bias betray you.
    Much to your chagrin, the United States is a great nation and the only super power of the world.

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  49. RRM (10,034 comments) says:

    Manolo (7,963) Says:
    October 29th, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    RRM, do not let your anti-American bias betray you.

    :lol: Quoted for general wrongness and just for the lols.

    Tell me Manolo, do you ever wish Wedbaiter would let you be on the top, even just once?

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  50. tom hunter (5,096 comments) says:

    After that dog of an advertisement for Obama the other day – the Vladimir Putin ripoff about the need for a girl’s first time to be with a really great guy – people have spotted that the US cartoonist, Michael Ramirez, anticipated it by about a month with What America Has Become. Key quote:

    …. and HE gives me FREE STUFF!

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  51. Longknives (4,889 comments) says:

    The Des Moines Register is clearly racist. Isn’t anybody who doesn’t support Obama ‘Racist’??

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  52. RRM (10,034 comments) says:

    Not at all Longknives.. although when people talk about “That anti constitutional nigg… um, err, I mean…” they really are racists ;-)

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  53. kiwi in america (2,511 comments) says:

    Gj Kiwi
    Oh dear – as Tom Hunter says – such a target rich environment. The economy under Bush prospered way more than under Obama. In the wake of a recession that began roughly seven weeks after President Bush took office, America experienced six years of uninterrupted economic growth and a record 52 straight months of job creation that produced more than 8 million new jobs. During the Bush presidency, the unemployment rate averaged 5.3 percent. We saw labor-productivity gains that averaged 2.5 percent annually — a rate that exceeds the averages of the 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s. Real after-tax income per capita increased by more than 11 percent. And from 2000 to 2007, real GDP grew by more than 17 percent, a gain of nearly $2.1 trillion. The new jobs Obama says were created barely erases the massive job losses that occurred under his watch and he has presided over an unemployment rate that has averaged over 8%, added $6 trillion in new debt and seen average incomes decline. Unlike Obama who promised to halve the deficit but increased it more than any other President, Romney plans to reduce the deficit. As Governor of Massachusetts he reduced a $3 billion budget deficit he inherited without raising taxes by the end of his second year in office. He hauled the Olympics out of a $150 million hole and made a profit so I know who I’d rather trust to reduce the deficit. As for “implementing policies for reducing spending” what prey tell are they? His 2 budgets that were so widely panned that they were unable to garner even a single DEMOCRAT vote in either the House or the Senate!

    The bailout of GM and Chrysler – please note that Ford NEVER took any government money and survived fine without it – came at the price of forcing the bondholders to take an inferior position to protect bloated union pension and benefits, locking in the same cost structure that caused the problem in the first place. The tax payers are still on the hole for $30 billion based on current stock prices and may never get their money back. A managed bankruptcy would seen a far mre rapid recovery as the bloated costs could’ve been permanently shed – this was a bailout for the United Autoworkers Union and no one else.

    Romney will unleash the pent up entrepreneurial genius of America currently shackled by the uncountable cost of Obamacare and Dodd Franks and the various EPA regulatory wars on coal, oil and fracking (given half a chance) as Obama tries to implement the Cap and Trade laws he knew would never pass even when he had one party rule in Washington. Freed from these risks the $2-3 trillion in cash that has been parked on the sidelines waiting out this President who is the most ignorant and hostile to business in US history will spark a Ronald Reagan style strong recovery where the rising tide of business will lift all boats and reduce the record poverty and numbers on food stamps.

    Obama was an empty suit that gave a good speech. When you elect a hard left ideologue with a wafer thin legislative record and the only executive experience that of running the Harvard Law Review – permanent staff of 3 – is it any wonder he has been in over his head. When Romney could make his case to the American people at the first debate without the filter of the Obama loving media and mix it up with Obama sans any teleprompter and obsequious softball questions from the few selected media interviews that he gave, Obama got run over by the train of a candidate who is smart, experienced and with a vision in tune with the aspirations of America’s battered middle class. Romney won’t just win – he could win big – just like Reagan who polls showed was neck and neck with Carter at this point in the 1980 campaign.

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  54. Redbaiter (9,659 comments) says:

    Communismiscoming says-

    Yip you can lose the popular vote and still win the election. Happened in our country too and we dumped the horrid FPP system on its butt.

    Yet another example (do we need anymore) to illustrate the fact that if you dumb the education system down enough, you can get a lot of the people to vote for an idiot.

    Hey moron- the US is a Constitutional Republic and the Electoral College is a mainstay of that system of government and designed to overcome the tyranny of the majority that is I would guess what you didn’t like about FFP.

    Such ignorant knuckle dragging drongos, they’re just everywhere since the left took over education.

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  55. dime (10,135 comments) says:

    Americas fastest growing sector – the public sector. shock horror.

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  56. ISeeRed (236 comments) says:

    Isn’t it a bit misleading to say “debt went up X trillion under President Y” when it’s Congress that dictates spending? Don’t you have to check which party controlled Congress in the 80s, 90s, and 00s before pointing fingers of blame?

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  57. RRM (10,034 comments) says:

    Two things are certain:

    (1) If Obama wins, we’ll be blaming him (and the whole corrupt system that made his re-election possible) for all America’s and the world’s problems for the next 4 years. It’s all the left’s fault, and whaddya expect when you elect a leftist?

    (2) If Romney wins, we’ll be blaming his duplicity, his selling-out to the Democrats and his getting into bed with the Democrats, his failure to “live up to the founding conservative traditions of the G.O.P” (and the whole corrupt system that made his election possible) for all America’s and the world’s problems for the next 4 years. It’s all the left’s fault, and whaddya expect when you elect a leftist?

    The problem is that just about everything is to the left of the Kiwiblog comments… including most of the real world :-P

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  58. tom hunter (5,096 comments) says:

    Isn’t it a bit misleading to say “debt went up X trillion under President Y” when it’s Congress that dictates spending? Don’t you have to check which party controlled Congress in the 80s, 90s, and 00s before pointing fingers of blame?

    That’s quite true, but since GJKiwi indulged in the usual Dem-Presidents-Good-GOP-Presidents-Bad, I thought I’d simply string him along on the same front.

    Besides, it makes sense to stay in that mode with the likes of GJKiwi, since most leftists develop a cult of personality about some Great Leader Of Genius. In this case it involves them thinking the US President is actually an emperor – at least until it’s time to start whining about how the country is ungovernable due to those dratted obstructionists in the Senate and Congress.

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  59. tom hunter (5,096 comments) says:

    It’s all the left’s fault, and whaddya expect when you elect a leftist?

    That’s also quite true, and while we will have to see what Romney does if he wins, I’m not filled with confidence. I’m afraid that he will follow the path of another businessman-turned-politician, Rick Snyder, of Michigan. The following is a sad story of lost opportunities.

    The writer points out the failure of the UAW and other institutions. It’s a little unfair, in that they were aided by the idiot management of the Big Three automakers, who also sucked at other aspects of running the car companies. So nobody is surprised that Michigan has slowly settled into the shit. And yet they responded responded politically.

    One indicator of the political fallout is the fact that, in 2010, the Republicans in Michigan won a landslide, taking both houses and the governor’s chair. Grand Rapids and western Michigan more generally – districts for the most part Republican and prosperous – are now weightier than Detroit and its satellite communities.

    And the newly elected governor was an ex-businessman. Yay!

    What makes matters worse is the fact that the Republican governor elected in 2010 is a businessman all too typical of the businessmen who go into politics. If you have never heard his name, there is a reason. He brings to the political arena the amoral, apolitical mindset all too common among men of commerce, whose only concern is to buy cheap and sell dear; and his thinking is resolutely short-term.

    Bummer – and that sounds awfully familiar does it not?

    Rick Snyder had the votes in the legislature to make Michigan a right-to-work state and cripple the unions. But, like most businessmen, he is timid in the face of potential conflict, and he instinctively shuns anything that would really ruffle feathers. He did not have the courage or perhaps the imagination to stage a confrontation with the unions in the manner of Scott Walker, and so he nixed right-to-work. In effect, he opted for half-measures; and, in the process, he squandered a mandate to change things in the state.

    That also sounds familiar and I would not be at all surprised if this is the path that Romney takes – which will lead to even worse fallout:

    Snyder’s fecklessness has left the Republicans divided and demoralized; and, sensing timidity and weakness on their part, the unions and their allies in the environmental movement and in the feminist left have gone on an offensive. The UAW may be on its way out. But, before it disappears, it will, if it can, pass the torch to the public sector unions and the left more generally.

    The latter are pushing a whole bunch of ballots – all aimed at amending the state constitution. Among other things these will embed collective bargaining in the state constitution, enabling the public unions to become a permanent political player armed with the money to get their nominees into local public office, where, without any legal restrictions whatsoever, they can turn around and negotiate with the unions to which they owe their election agreements enriching these same unions. Exactly what Scott Walker gave the boot to in Wisconsin. There are also ballots that will force utilities to get 25% of their power from “renewable” resources (while restricting them from raising prices by more than 1%. There are three hardline, radical feminists up for the Supreme Court. And the opposition to all this:

    All over Hillsdale, in the yards of schoolteachers and others who work for the government, I see signs supporting this ballot proposal. I have seen no signs opposing it, and I have received no literature in the mail or through email urging that I vote against it. One side is organized; and, as far as I can tell, the other side is not.

    Debbie Stabenow (arguably the least intelligent current member of the United States Senate) is leading Pete Hoekstra, a former Republican Congressman from Grand Rapids, by 13% in the Real Clear Politics polling average. Rasmussen has her 12% ahead. I have seen her advertisements with some frequency on the internet. I have heard nothing about her opponent. If I were not following the race, I would not even know that Hoekstra is the Republican candidate.

    The writer sums up the meaning for Romney pretty well -the danger of a technocratic, apolitical bipartisanship at the Federal level:

    If my fears are realized, it will be due to the fecklessness of a single Republican – who had a chance to set things right but failed to recognize that bad management is not the chief source of Michigan’s problems and that he had to confront more fundamental problems and articulate an argument appealing to justice in defense of what he intended to do.

    The USA cannot afford more of that crap.

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  60. mikenmild (11,781 comments) says:

    Was that an “I agree” to both of RRM’s points, tom?

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  61. tom hunter (5,096 comments) says:

    For you and your attention span mikenmild …

    Yes :)

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  62. mikenmild (11,781 comments) says:

    I’m just enjoying your ‘plague on both your houses’ theme recently. Not exactly one I disagree with, but I’m really hanging out for Redbaiter’s detailed exposition of the merits of the electoral college.

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  63. tom hunter (5,096 comments) says:

    Well, that’s the politicians. However I don’t want to be entirely nihilistic so am still very much against Left-Wing ideas. For all the moaning and bitching about the fiscal approach of Mr “Compassionate Conservative” and his merry GOP band through the double OO’s, the fact is that the three US States that are most in thrall to the Democrats ideas are the ones that are most in the shit: California, Illinois, and New York.

    Unsurprisingly they’re going to provide Obama with 104 of his electoral college votes. Obama’s leading by 14-15 points in CA for fucks sake and the Illinois Teachers Pension Fund is bankrupt:

    Ultimately, there are only two numbers that matter: the amount of money the pension fund will pay out for earned benefits, and the amount of money it has on hand. Between now and 2045, TRS will pay $376.5 billion to retired teachers. It has just $36.3 billion on hand. In order for these assets to cover future payouts, TRS would need to see average investment returns of more than 18.5 percent per year.

    The simple fact is that TRS is broke. Under new accounting rules, TRS has less than 23 percent of the money it should have in the bank today in order to make its pension payments. The system doesn’t even have enough money on hand to pay out benefits to the people who have already retired. Pension experts and TRS’s own actuaries agree: the fund could soon be insolvent.

    As Illinois goes, so will the rest of the USA if Obama has his way.

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  64. BlairM (2,365 comments) says:

    Obama has been implementing policies to decrease spending

    I’m sorry, I just squirted wine out my nose. WTF?!!! Pray tell what are these magical policies? Is this some sort of grand strategy whereby Obama adds 7 trillion dollars to the national debt as some sort of investment to reduce it later?! Because I’m not sure what part of almost doubling the debt that you missed when you made that statement.

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  65. mikenmild (11,781 comments) says:

    I guess some of it is the inevitable personification of wider political trends. So you have if “Obama gets his way” versus Mitt ‘several vertebrae short of a backbone’ Romney.

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