Labour candidate seeking a poor person

June 7th, 2014 at 10:00 am by David Farrar

SN FB - Poverty Story 2

This tells us a number of things.

  • asks the Labour candidate to supply a poor person to use in their story on poverty in the HB.
  • HB Today don’t know anyone in poverty, but want to find someone as they wish to write a story on poverty in the HB
  • doesn’t know anyone in poverty. He’s had to go to Facebook to try and find someone in poverty

 

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47 Responses to “Labour candidate seeking a poor person”

  1. Other_Andy (2,676 comments) says:

    He should talk to John Campbell.
    He has a list of left wing activists ready to make up sh!t.
    After all the past disasters, the new ones have been vetted so nothing will trace them back to the ‘greens’, labour or ‘mana’.

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  2. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    What a crock . . . another leftie talking shit.

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  3. Longknives (4,742 comments) says:

    John Campbell will pay a Student Actor like he usually does….

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  4. bringbackdemocracy (427 comments) says:

    There is someone with poor ethics standing for New Lynn.

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  5. itstricky (1,830 comments) says:

    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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  6. twofish (94 comments) says:

    He should talk to Meridian, is it?
    The Government SOE that has some truly wet front-person claiming one in four New Zealand children don’t have shoes or umbrella’s.
    So check out any four kids – one ought to be able to help you – unless someone is telling fucking lies :-)

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  7. burt (8,269 comments) says:

    There will be no poor people in NZ if internet/mana/labour and the Greens team up and form a government. We’ll all be rich once the tax rates go to 99% for all earnings over what a beneficiary gets and of course – the printing presses start cranking out billions of dollars a day to make everybody rich. Inflation…. Won’t be a problem, we’ll print our way out if that pretty quickly.

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  8. Scott1 (552 comments) says:

    It probably would not be a good thing if Nash just put forward his poorest friend for this sort of thing.

    The first point is an interesting one though.. why ask the labour candidate for it unless one wanted it to be a propaganda piece? I hope they are charging Labour for it….

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  9. itstricky (1,830 comments) says:

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  10. Peter (1,712 comments) says:

    Poor people don’t have computers.

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  11. adze (2,126 comments) says:

    “why ask the labour candidate for it unless one wanted it to be a propaganda piece?”

    Probably because you couldn’t really ask the National candidate.

    So why not ask the Sallies or some other organisation that actually works with poor people?

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  12. Ryan Sproull (7,141 comments) says:

    Well done posting a full screen shot that shows that this was a Parlimentary insider that has sent you this. Someone older, who uses Telecom as an ISP as well, hmmm what else…

    It’s creepy how much you can work out from that screenshot.

    Also, half the country’s problems are probably attributable to public servants using Internet Explorer.

    A single Christian female (or perhaps gay male) public servant living in Hawkes Bay, probably Havelock North, probably in their 50s, with the candlestick in the conservatory.

    You should edit that screenshot for privacy, DPF. It has three people’s actual names right there. Well, two people’s actual names, and a “Wink Groome”, who I think was a Bond villain in the early ’70s.

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  13. itstricky (1,830 comments) says:

    So why not ask the Sallies or some other organisation that actually works with poor people?

    Perhaps they did, adze, perhaps they did. An absence of evidence doesn’t mean something didn’t happen. It just means that it’s not that exciting for DPF in election year.

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  14. Anthony (796 comments) says:

    Amazing how left wing types just have to come to Kiwiblog and find something to say about posts they don’t like, and when there’s no logical argument they can run they find something else to try to get attention. Like needy teenagers!

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  15. adze (2,126 comments) says:

    “An absence of evidence doesn’t mean something didn’t happen. ”

    Except we do have evidence of them asking a Labour MP. Which is more telling than if they had asked a non-partisan organisation, isn’t it?

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  16. thor42 (971 comments) says:

    “This tells us a number of things.”

    One of the things it tells us is that the government is running the country so well that people in so-called “poverty” are hard to find.

    By poverty, I mean bad circumstances that are not self-inflicted (as in having too many children, spending on booze and smokes and being lazy).

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  17. itstricky (1,830 comments) says:

    Except we do have evidence of them asking a Labour MP. Which is more telling than if they had asked a non-partisan organisation, isn’t it?

    I’m sure if you had all the information and asked the right people, you’d find they asked a lot of people. It’s just *likely* that a Labour (i.e. Opposition) candidate will know a good story already. Use your noggin.

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  18. itstricky (1,830 comments) says:

    Amazing how left wing types just have to come to Kiwiblog and find something to say about posts they don’t like

    I find putting forth some conjecture a little more entertaining than becoming a brain washed squirrel soaking up everything DPF posts like a numpty and patting fellows who think just like me on the back with a hearty “didn’t we do well”

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  19. adze (2,126 comments) says:

    itsthicky, yes, because there’s been no previous examples of such “stories” having later turning out to be Labour/Green supporters and/or campaigners. Oh and take your own advice. :)

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  20. itstricky (1,830 comments) says:

    You should edit that screenshot for privacy, DPF.

    Agree.

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  21. itstricky (1,830 comments) says:

    adze – Meh – whatever you want to think. I’ve said my piece now; better things to do.

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  22. Steve Wrathall (284 comments) says:

    Amazing…just amazing. I mean, KB & WO have been running this meme for years now, that the hard luck stories are fed to pet journos by Labour & Greens. Then this chump comes along any totally confirms it.

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  23. slightlyrighty (2,475 comments) says:

    So Labour is looking for a poor person, on the internet.

    Really?

    You could not make this shit up….

    Labour thinks a poor person in NZ has net access and a cellphone.

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  24. Caleb (479 comments) says:

    Hawkes Bay Today

    Full of far left columnists’ and opinion pieces

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  25. burt (8,269 comments) says:

    Clark had a corpse to cuddle because they couldn’t pay their power bill at a time when government profits from power generation were obscene – the left are seemingly incapable of seeing the disconnect between their policy intentions and their outcomes, yet they are still militant about their ideology. Leftism must surely be a mental illness.

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  26. thePeoplesFlag (245 comments) says:

    I’ll take this ridiculous post as proof that National is going to lose the Napier seat.

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  27. Nukuleka (325 comments) says:

    Text Mr Nash on the number he provides and tell him what you think of his pimping for ‘poverty’.

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  28. OneTrack (3,092 comments) says:

    slightlyrighty – “Labour thinks a poor person in NZ has net access and a cellphone.”

    Labour and Green support the “Living Wage” which is calculated on the basis that poor people need at least one overseas holiday per year.

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  29. OneTrack (3,092 comments) says:

    I’ll take this ridiculous Labour request as proof that Labour/Greens “poverty” meme is just a load of propaganda bullshit.

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  30. OneTrack (3,092 comments) says:

    itstricky – “”So why not ask the Sallies or some other organisation that actually works with poor people?”

    Perhaps they did, adze, perhaps they did. ”

    So even the sallies couldn’t provide an example of a “poor” person in John Key’s New Zealand.

    Damn.

    Ok, as you are off to the Green Party fund raising meeting now, we’ll see you later.

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  31. Mark1 (90 comments) says:

    It always amuses me how lefties come to this site, post irrelevant comments to distract from the point, then when they are called out they say they have said their piece and have better things to do. Presumably if they really had better things to do they wouldn’t come to this site and take the effort to post in the first place?

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  32. wikiriwhis business (3,998 comments) says:

    If you can’t find an impoverished person in the Hawkes Bay you deaf, blind, and definitely dumb and thick as two bricks and have no business being in a profession.

    Or you’re a card carrying member of the governing National Socialist party

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  33. I Say Look Here (57 comments) says:

    Hawkes Bay Today go to the Labour candidate to find a poor person for a story. How balanced, impartial and professional is that story going to be? Not a flash look for Labour, but an absolute shocker for this APN (NZ Herald) -owned media outlet.

    And no chance whatsoever of said Labour candidate schooling up his tame poor person on a few choice anti-Government quotes to feed the journo… Oh no no no.

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  34. Johnboy (16,529 comments) says:

    He could pop round and see me. I’m down to my last couple of mill under the Blinglish jackboot! :)

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  35. OneTrack (3,092 comments) says:

    wiki – “If you can’t find an impoverished person in the Hawkes Bay you deaf, blind, and definitely dumb and thick as two bricks and have no business being in a profession.”

    Come on wiki, Stuart Nash isn’t that bad is he?

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  36. noskire (842 comments) says:

    Text Mr Nash on the number he provides and tell him what you think of his pimping for ‘poverty’.

    I did, and I think he is a wee bit peeved.

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  37. OneTrack (3,092 comments) says:

    I say look here – “Not a flash look for Labour, but an absolute shocker for this APN (NZ Herald) -owned media outlet.”

    Ah, no. This sort of rubbish is pretty standard for the Left Stream Media NZ Herald.

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  38. noskire (842 comments) says:

    Stuart’s reply is that he was just helping out the HB Today and it wasn’t politically motivated. Tui sign anyone?

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  39. stigie (1,173 comments) says:

    If you are starting to get a bit hard done by JB, you could always sell one of those Fergys you have to Griff….

    I believe he is paying good prices these days !~

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  40. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    A relative of his conveniently lost Government books in the Avon River didn’t he?

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  41. wiseowl (893 comments) says:

    HB Today has had a succession of left wing editors ,the latest a South African who many hoped would be more objective.

    But no, the paper is full of left wing angles and big support for a super city in the Bay.
    An appalling paper.

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  42. Anthony (796 comments) says:

    Of course a ‘poor’ person can have internet access nowadays – you can get a smartphone for as little as $39 and 100MB of data for $6! Don’t tell the Mana Internet party though because they think internet affordability is a major problem!

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  43. greenjacket (465 comments) says:

    wikiriwhis business: “Or you’re a card carrying member of the governing National Socialist party”
    .
    OK – so call anyone that disagrees with your views a Nazi.

    That’s a great strategy of winning over converts to your cause – keep it up! Calling people who disagree with you Nazis probably hasn’t won you any arguments so far, but do keep trying.

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  44. goldnkiwi (1,304 comments) says:

    Totally politicised, solo mum story and Nash on deprivation two top stories in Hawkes Bay today, got to campaign about something.

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  45. Harriet (4,969 comments) says:

    Martyrs drive fanaticism. :cool:

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  46. Cactus Kate (551 comments) says:

    And when you question such stories you are thrown all manner of abuse mainly from people who have made terrible life choices and don’t own up to personal responsibility such as having more and more children to keep them company in their misery. Then there is the God awful choice in men when most women would be better off on their own. Once is understandable but repeating the same terrible choice in father for your children is not. Sure there are terrible cases of poor people but I wouldn’t say any suffer from poverty because its temporary until they receive welfare assistance which may even include state housing. In that thread it is questioned as to whether I know anything about poverty because apparently I am privileged. I say everyone born in NZ is.

    Be that as it may I carefully walk around people every day to my work in poverty in Hong Kong and ten years of travelling in Asia. They are missing legs and holding begging bowls, they are 80 years old collecting cardboard to recycle for a few dollars and they are lying in the shade of the few trees in the city in 35 degree heat because its too hot in their caged housing.

    You don’t have to be in poverty to spot it. The difference in Asia is they are all determined from birth not to be in poverty and would jump at the chance of being in NZ’s state education system at even a bad school. New Zealand is one of the easiest countries in the world to make something of yourself and there is no such determination which is why when Asian countries get their act together properly even New Zealand’s lower middle and maybe even middle class will get one hell of a fright fighting for resources.

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  47. Shazzadude (529 comments) says:

    It’s not all that tactful to approach someone saying “Hey, poor person? Can you put your name forward for this story please and tell everyone about how poor you are?” I can see the merit in putting the message out there and getting someone to volunteer.

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