Inflation less than expected

July 17th, 2014 at 10:00 am by David Farrar

cpi

was 1.6% in the last year, which is less than expected. The lower is, the more spending power households and businesses have.

This should mean that interest rates do not rise as much as projected, even though I still expect one more 25 basis points increase later this month.

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67 Responses to “Inflation less than expected”

  1. EAD (1,297 comments) says:

    There are lies, damned lies and government statistics. The present social democrat coalition inherited an addiction to fiddled and selective interpretation of inflation and growth figures, having found that the media is not interested or mentally capable of stripping down the raw numbers to arrive at the truth the government has happily supplied and increasingly made up set to palm off onto pleb land. If you think government debt is large wait until it hits one hundred billion, two hundred billion or even more.

    A new version of the Soviet grain harvest/traktor production report has been created, and its mostly simply made up fantasy. At what point did government make the conscious decision to begin lying? I blame Clarke and her mental case Cullen, the source code of most of our woes which the National Party has utterly failed to turn round. Vote in a real fiscally conservative regime in and the sudden change from made up lies to the real actual figures will come as a wake up call, after years of a wall of lies and deception our real predicament when it is finally revealed will shock us to the core.

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  2. wiseowl (930 comments) says:

    Hear,hear.

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  3. mister nui (1,030 comments) says:

    Well said EAD.

    Although, it might be a good idea to have the Greens run the show for one term first, totally destroy the economy in the process, thereby relegating them to the dustbin of history, where they belong.

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  4. virtualmark (1,536 comments) says:

    EAD,

    Why do you think the CPI figures are “made up fantasy”? It’s a pretty simple calculation, a pretty simple process for arriving at the numbers, and the process is fundamentally unchanged for the last 25 years or so (apart from adjusting weightings as shopping habits change).

    I don’t see any pragmatic grounds for thinking the CPI calculation has somehow been hijacked and manipulated for political purposes.

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  5. ShawnLH (5,722 comments) says:

    “There are lies, damned lies and government statistics.”

    Got any actual evidence for that? Just repeating the claim they are lying is not much of an argument.

    “The present social democrat coalition”

    It’s not a social democrat coalition. You and Red have very little clue as to the breadth and variety of conservative thought and government. You have both chosen your Marxist-style ideological purity, totally disconnected from reality, and insist that anything that does match your purist notions is thus left wing.

    It’s a childish and ignorant argument.

    And before you start ranting about the Matrix (though it’s telling that you use a fantasy story) I used to be both a libertarian anarchist and an advocate of Austrian school economics. But I decided to grow up and face reality. There are good reasons why very few people take either ideology seriously.

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  6. m@tt (631 comments) says:

    National need to be told that they can’t continue to blindly blunder down the path that they inherited and keep blaming everyone else. Maybe the best way to do that is to send them out for a term to have a think about it.

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  7. ShawnLH (5,722 comments) says:

    “Why do you think the CPI figures are “made up fantasy”?”

    It’s a massive conspiracy, and if you just drop a pill you will see it too! You don’t need any facts, just take this pill! :)

    That’s about all the substance you can expect from EAD.

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  8. Redbaiter (9,561 comments) says:

    “But I decided to grow up and face reality. ”

    You have admitted here to supporting National since & including Bolger.

    You will never grow up and go to your grave an enabler of socialist deceit & destruction.

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  9. ShawnLH (5,722 comments) says:

    “National need to be told that they can’t continue to blindly blunder down the path that they inherited and keep blaming everyone else.”

    I see no evidence they are doing that.

    “Maybe the best way to do that is to send them out for a term to have a think about it.”

    Sure. A Labour/Green/IMP government won’t cause any damage at all.

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  10. wiseowl (930 comments) says:

    You seem to be a very confused person Shawn.
    You will get better.

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  11. ShawnLH (5,722 comments) says:

    “You have admitted here to supporting National since & including Bolger.”

    I said I voted for them come the election. Like some others here, that was not an indication of what I believed at the time, just a belief that the Left was likely to do far more damage.

    “You will never grow up and go to your grave an enabler of socialist deceit & destruction.”

    That would be you Red. People like you do the real damage to the Right, by associating it with extremist, unthinking blather, fringe economics, and batshit ranting about National being socialists.

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  12. Redbaiter (9,561 comments) says:

    “and batshit ranting about National being socialists.”

    John Key himself has proudly described the National Party as Progressive.

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  13. ShawnLH (5,722 comments) says:

    “You seem to be a very confused person Shawn.”

    Only to those on the far left and far right, who insist on narrow definitions of ideological purity.

    I much prefer serious and deep thinking to shallow, fringe and impotent posturing, which is a recipe for never, ever, getting anything at all accomplished. It’s a convenient way to not take any real responsibility for society and the nation. You just stand outside and sneer at people who do take responsibility and who genuinely care for their country, and when it is pointed out that you have achieved zero, you just hide behind a conspiracy theory. “Oh it’s not MY fault. It’s all a conspiracy you know. Here drop this pill and you will see it too.”

    Bloody childish, and no different to whackjob commies selling the latest edition of the ‘The Spark’ on the street while everybody with a life passes you by.

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  14. Redbaiter (9,561 comments) says:

    You’re just another socialist enabler with the same old excuses.

    You and your ilk have destroyed the National Party and now that people are waking up to this fact, and challenging you on your lack of fight, you don’t know what to say or do.

    So you come on here and posture and whine and with your unsubstantiated bluster try to cover for your mistakes.

    You need to wake up. Times are changing and people are no longer happy with appeasement.

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  15. ShawnLH (5,722 comments) says:

    “John Key himself has proudly described the National Party as Progressive.”

    Idiot. “progressive” in NZ does not mean the same thing as it does in the US. In Europe there is an old tradition of conservative thought called liberal/progressive conservatism.

    Here is a list of the various conservative strains of thought.

    Liberal conservatism. Conservative liberalism. Libertarian conservatism. Fiscal conservatism. Green conservatism. National and traditional conservatism. Cultural and social conservatism. Religious conservatism. Progressive conservatism, revolutionary conservatism and Traditionalist conservatism.

    On the economic front different tribes of conservatives have at various times supported mainstream capitalism, agrianism, distrubitism, libertarianism, Austrian School, Chicago school, Rhine capitalism, the social market, and likely various other schools of thought

    There is no one right version of conservatism. It’s a tree with branches, and always has been.

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  16. wiseowl (930 comments) says:

    Well Shawn I can tell you I am a deep thinker and have actually spent many years being responsible for society .I have also been in the mire boots and all and have taken on battles in the interest of bettering this nation.

    I am extremely disappointed with where we are as a nation and the politicians we have currently,of all hues, are the ones that are shallow, posturing and a major let down.

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  17. ShawnLH (5,722 comments) says:

    “You and your ilk have destroyed the National Party and now that people are waking up to this fact,”

    LOL!!!! :) Oh really? Have you seen the latest polls? Tell me red, where are all these people who are “waking up”??? :)

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  18. Redbaiter (9,561 comments) says:

    I will grant you John Key may not know of the origins of Progressivism, but he is undoubtedly committed to it, as his enthusiastic endorsement of the redefinition of traditional marriage showed so well.

    That Key doesn’t know what he is doing is why he should not be leader of National. He was foisted on the party by a group of moneyed donors with no idea of the parties meaning or traditions. He is lead in his decisions by progressive mainstream media advisers.

    You may wish to continue to support this fake version of the National Party but I never will.

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  19. Redbaiter (9,561 comments) says:

    “Have you seen the latest polls?”

    Yes, and I know they represent a triumph for deceit and a failure of principle.

    That Key governs by popularity and polls I do not dispute. Of course he does. This is exactly why Conservatives are complaining. Key’s manipulation of the media and his failure to lead make very much like Obama, who once enjoyed the same degree of popularity for much the same reasons.

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  20. thedavincimode (6,871 comments) says:

    Times are changing and people are no longer happy with appeasement.

    Vive El Guava: the peoples’ warrior.

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  21. thedavincimode (6,871 comments) says:

    You may wish to continue to support this fake version of the National Party but I never will.

    Yes, we know; after the changes wrought on this country between 1998 and 2008, you would rather have liebour/melon/mana/peters than the traitor Key.

    Keep ranting into the wind and keep achieving less than fuck all.

    Edit: I take that back; you appear to have converted EAD. Wow.

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  22. ShawnLH (5,722 comments) says:

    “Yes, and I know they represent a triumph for deceit and a failure of principle.”

    So you admit that your first claim, contradicted by this new one, was wrong, and that in fact people are not “waking up” according to your definition.

    Which of these contradictory statements is the one you actually believe Red?

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  23. Redbaiter (9,561 comments) says:

    “Keep ranting into the wind and keep achieving less than fuck all.”

    If that was so I wouldn’t have people like you stalking me so intently.

    Or Key dicky lickers like Shawn mentioning my nick in almost every one of his comments.

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  24. ShawnLH (5,722 comments) says:

    “I will grant you John Key may not know of the origins of Progressivism”

    Not what I said. I said you don’t know that the word has multiple meanings depending on history and culture. Your insistence that it has only one meaning is pure ignorance.

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  25. ShawnLH (5,722 comments) says:

    “If that was so I wouldn’t have people like you stalking me so intently.”

    I’m debating with you. That’s what people do on a debating forum. Silly child! :)

    “Or Key dicky lickers like Shawn mentioning my nick in almost every one of his comments.”

    Most of the time I don’t mention you at all. But you are good for laugh now and then.

    Nobody is stalking you Red, your just not that important.

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  26. ShawnLH (5,722 comments) says:

    By the way Red, in about half an hour I’m off to do some work.

    What do you do for a job?

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  27. Redbaiter (9,561 comments) says:

    “Which of these contradictory statements is the one you actually believe Red?”

    You’re even more of an idiot than I thought if you cannot detect a growing dissatisfaction with the National Party. People who understand that a slide to the left in order to attract votes from Labour supporters is no real victory.

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  28. ShawnLH (5,722 comments) says:

    “You’re even more of an idiot than I thought if you cannot detect a growing dissatisfaction with the National Party.”

    Show me the poll proving this.

    Either there is growing dissatisfaction with National, which if true would show up in the polls, or not. Note that between them ACT and the CP can barely muster 2-3%.

    So your claim is based on……???

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  29. ShawnLH (5,722 comments) says:

    Silence still on the job front. How does Red spend all day on blogs? He wouldn’t be, shock, horror, a socialist welfare bludger, would he? :)

    Nah, surely Red is the paragon of consistent principle, right? :)

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  30. Redbaiter (9,561 comments) says:

    Polls are measurements of political ignorance.

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  31. ShawnLH (5,722 comments) says:

    So you admit that your claim about people “waking up” is total bollocks then. Good for you!

    How do you fund your “twenty year campaign” Red? You wouldn’t be bludging off folks who actually work, would you?

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  32. Redbaiter (9,561 comments) says:

    “So you admit that your claim about people “waking up” is total bollocks then”

    Your constant need to construct strawmen and attack people with completely false and baseless allegations are indications of the same weak soft unprincipled character that identifies most on the left. People like you have been claiming to represent the right while simultaneously prostrating yourself to the left for decades, and leaders like John Key, David Cameron and Barack Obama are what we have to show for it.

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  33. ShawnLH (5,722 comments) says:

    “Your constant need to construct strawmen and attack people with completely false and baseless allegations” is exactly what you do Red.

    “indications of the same weak soft unprincipled character that identifies most on the left.”

    I identify most with the Conservative Right. I just don’t feel the need to be batshit crazy about it.

    Now, unlike you I’m not a soft, weak, socialist dole bludger. I work for a living and pay my taxes, so by for now! :)

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  34. Redbaiter (9,561 comments) says:

    “Now, unlike you I’m not a soft, weak, socialist dole bludger.”

    Where is the evidence for your statement that I receive the dole?

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  35. thedavincimode (6,871 comments) says:

    I much prefer serious and deep thinking to shallow, fringe and impotent posturing, which is a recipe for never, ever, getting anything at all accomplished. It’s a convenient way to not take any real responsibility for society and the nation. You just stand outside and sneer at people who do take responsibility and who genuinely care for their country, and when it is pointed out that you have achieved zero, you just hide behind a conspiracy theory abuse.

    With that minor amendment, Shawn could just have easily been addressing you Russell. Lie, blather, obfuscate and abuse. What a patriot loser.

    But thanks for coming anyway, thanks for the 20 year master plan and most of all, thanks for the laff.

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  36. Redbaiter (9,561 comments) says:

    “thanks for the laff.”

    Just keep laffing Key fanboy.

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  37. thedavincimode (6,871 comments) says:

    Sounds ominous. You must be close to launching your croup d’etat

    What’s the plan – start with a blitzkrieg assault on the Tauranga Senior Citizens’ Club? Your armoured division hitting them hard straight up the guts using mobility scooters through the car park, coinciding with an encircling manoeuvre by the 1st Zimmer Frame Mobility Troup around the back to cut off any retreat? Can I suggest placing a few disoriented elderly shock troops on the harbour bridge to wander about slightly dazed and causing confusion to slow down reinforcements and give you time to take control. Your could borrow some from Winston, although you better hurry because the polls suggest that his ones are dying or wandering off and getting lost.

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  38. Redbaiter (9,561 comments) says:

    Oh wow, we’re back to the same old boring unimaginative dross.

    No wonder Key’s daily briefings read like they’re written by some mindless bubble living prog.

    Still, I have to admit that as far as my 10 year plan to confront the fake right is concerned, Key has really put a spanner in the works. I never for one minute counted on a Helen Klark reincarnation taking over the National Party and leading it further into the ideological wilderness. I knew they were bad, but that bad? FFS..!!

    Key hasn’t brought the Labour voters to National, he’s taken the National Party to the Labour voters, and idiots like you consider this to be some kind of victory.

    And as far as his “popularity” goes, he’s got at best 50% of the few who bother to participate in voting in this Cuban hole. What kind of real achievement is that? Its not the staggering degree of popularity you and other mindless progs make it out to be that is for sure.

    If Key had the brains and the balls to stop listening to prog morons and pathological communists like you TVDM, he might amount to something, but it doesn’t look like that’s going to happen.

    Hence we’ll have Cuba in the Pacific for some time yet.

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  39. thedavincimode (6,871 comments) says:

    No no. It was 20 years remember. In two 10 year phases. You might recall trumpeting the conclusion of phase 1 by announcing here, by way of an exclusive, that phase 1 had been a roaring success in gathering support and that you were moving on to phase 2 and indicating in effect that this would deliver the killer blow. This turned out to be your bog and launching your twitter offensive before swallowing your pride to come back here for the third time just to be rude and offensive.

    I have to give credit though; you seem to be driving voters back to National in droves.

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  40. Redbaiter (9,561 comments) says:

    “No no. It was 20 years remember.”

    Get up to speed you decrepit old queen. The first ten years was spent confronting the left, who didn’t exist back then because fools like you had allowed left to become the status quo. I can easily remember being on usenet where leftists frequently denied being what they were. Claimed they were middle of the road. Today they can’t get away with that. The internet has blown their cover. They’re left and they admit it.

    However the real truth is that they are not just left, they are extreme left, and we have the left, by that I mean clueless progs like you, posturing as centre right.

    So that was the second part of my plan, to expose the centre right for the leftists they really are. It is working. For example every time I see some poofter poseur like you jumping about like a wallaby on an ant hill I know I am getting somewhere.

    Don’t make me explain it again old fruit. This must be the 10th time and you’re still confused. Fuck knows how someone so slow witted gets employment. Govt I guess.

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  41. thedavincimode (6,871 comments) says:

    So that was the second part of my plan, to expose the centre right for the leftists they really are. It is working. For example every time I see some poofter poseur like you jumping about like a wallaby on an ant hill I know I am getting somewhere.

    So … let me get this right … me teasing you for the idiot you are … is success?

    OK, not the measure that I’d have thought was relevant but hey, it’s your cunning master plan so you get to decide on your KPIs.

    In that case, I can only see your plan becoming more and more successful as time goes by.

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  42. ShawnLH (5,722 comments) says:

    Red, your twenty year plan has failed only because hardly anyone takes you seriously. A few days back I checked out your blog. You get bugger all participation, and most of that is from a small number of sycophantic followers.

    You over estimate your importance, but that’s just a function of your massively inflated ego.

    That said, your fantasies are good for a laugh.

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  43. stigie (1,315 comments) says:

    Old fruit, old queen….sounds as though you are as camp as a row of tents !~

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  44. ShawnLH (5,722 comments) says:

    “However the real truth is that they are not just left, they are extreme left, and we have the left, by that I mean clueless progs like you, posturing as centre right.”

    The only person posturing is you Reddy. You have proven that you know almost noting about the conservative right. You know almost nothing about it’s history, it’s breadth, it’s diversity. You throw around political labels in a way that proves this over and over.

    Did you know that the first British Tory Conservatives were agrarians who opposed free market policies?

    Or that Distributism, which opposed both socialism and capitalism has been one of the economic ideas that at various times some prominent conservatives have followed?

    Or that Continental European conservatives rejected both socialism and free market capitalism in favor of the social market?

    Apparently, no.

    Conservatism has always been a tree with many branches, yet like a good little Marxist you insist on a very narrow “purist” definition that ignores all of that, not to mention political reality, and also like a good little Marxist you insist that anyone who does not sign up to your personal definition be expelled as a traitor.

    You don’t sound like a conservative. You sound like a Stalinist ready to purge the “unfaithful”.

    That’s the real reason your fantasy of a twenty year plan (Marxism again) has failed.

    You don’t know what your talking about.

    Well, that and the fact that your extreme personal abuse turns any potential supporters off.

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  45. Redbaiter (9,561 comments) says:

    Hey Shawn- you’re a liar.

    On 3 occasions at least.

    1. Your posts don’t frequently mention me. They do.

    2. I am unemployed and receiving the dole. A complete lie and a cowardly unsubstantiated smear.

    3. I post here “all day every day”.

    All plain and obvious lies.

    Piss off and stop stalking me. I have no time for idiots and even less for trolls. But the people I have least time for are people with a pathological communist mindset who lie at the drop of a hat and without the slightest hesitation. That’s you, so kindly FO.

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  46. stephieboy (3,386 comments) says:

    Redbaiter, directing to the help you so desperately need,

    http://psychcentral.com/disorders/paranoid-personality-disorder-symptoms/

    Do post us feedback about your choice of treatment options.

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  47. ShawnLH (5,722 comments) says:

    “Piss off and stop stalking me. I have no time for idiots and even less for trolls.”

    No, you have no time for anyone who can destroy your arguments. Truth is you don’t have the intellectual ability to debate with me, which is why you resort to abuse.

    Try to rationally answer the facts I have posted about the Conservative Right.

    I won’t hold my breath.

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  48. ShawnLH (5,722 comments) says:

    “Your posts don’t frequently mention me. They do.”

    Nope. Most of them don’t. Your just not that important.

    “I am unemployed and receiving the dole. A complete lie and a cowardly unsubstantiated smear.”

    You failed to answer the question about whether you have a job or not. Why?

    “I post here “all day every day”.”

    And yet here you are! :)

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  49. Redbaiter (9,561 comments) says:

    “No, you have no time for anyone who can destroy your arguments.”

    Like every other leftist, you don’t address the argument.

    Here you are lying your stupid fucking head off on issues that have no bearing on the issue at all.

    Its the same old same old left wing strategy of distraction. You know you can’t defend the charge that you’re a leftist enabler so you raise a bunch of cowardly false allegations to hide the fact. Not only a liar but an intellectual coward.

    Keep supporting Helen Key. Its definitely your most suitable political niche.

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  50. ShawnLH (5,722 comments) says:

    “Like every other leftist, you don’t address the argument.”

    I HAVE addressed your argument many times. You just don’t have the nous to respond.

    As to being a leftist: I’m opposed to abortion and gay marriage. I believe in a flat tax, less and smaller government, the death penalty, a strong military and respect for tradition. A person would have to be insane to think I’m a leftist.

    The difference between us is that I am realistic about what is achievable and understand that political leaders cannot go too far beyond what the voters actually want.

    Red, if all you can do is be childish and scream “leftist” and “traitor” to anyone who disagrees with you then you clearly do not have the knowledge and intelligence to sustain a debate and rationally defend your claims.

    Which is exactly why your so-called twenty year plan is a total failure.

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  51. Redbaiter (9,561 comments) says:

    “I’m opposed to abortion and gay marriage. I believe in a flat tax, less and smaller government, the death penalty, a strong military and respect for tradition. A person would have to be insane to think I’m a leftist.”

    I might even believe that if you hadn’t admitted to voting for twenty years or more for a party who was for & against all of those things

    “Red, if all you can do is be childish and scream “leftist” and “traitor” to anyone who disagrees with you”

    Even if this idiotic womanishly emotional rhetoric was true, it would still at least be relevant to the argument, rather than your weak and false allegations of being unemployed etc. Just spiteful childish off topic attempts to belittle an opponent you cannot fathom.

    Its quite easy really Shawn. I have nothing but contempt for you and your ilk, and I have no wish to convert you to my POV. Think of yourself as a sacrificial lamb. An example for others with a keener intellect to observe as you flail about here desperately trying to defend yourself. Do your best. Its to no avail. You’ll soon be as irrelevant as the extreme leftists (like Stupefiedboy) who you have enabled all these years are today.

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  52. ShawnLH (5,722 comments) says:

    “I might even believe that if you hadn’t admitted to voting for twenty years or more for a party who was for & against all of those things”

    And exactly which party was I supposed to vote for Reddy? There is not and has not been a seriously conservative party in NZ that has had a remote chance of getting into power. So unless I don’t vote at all, which is dumb, conservatives have little choice. This is where you refuse to face reality. You are living in a fantasy world.

    “Even if this idiotic womanishly emotional rhetoric was true,”

    It is true Reddy, it’s all you ever do on KB.

    ” Just spiteful childish off topic attempts to belittle an opponent you cannot fathom.”

    LOL. Puhleeease, I can “fathom” you easily Red. Your not complex, or very smart. You are an angry little man who cannot deal with reality, and you screech like a spoiled child at anyone who refuses to share your delusional thinking.

    ” have nothing but contempt for you and your ilk, and I have no wish to convert you to my POV. ”

    Because you do not have the intelligence to do so. Simple as that.

    Your “POV” is too hand the country over to a Labour/Green/IMP coalition because your childishly angry that John Key is not dumb enough to adopt your pathetic strategy.

    Your irrelevant to the Conservative movement in NZ. You have nothing to offer it except the failed tactics of the far left.

    Time to retire Reddy, and let the adults who really care about their country get on with keeping the real Left out of power.

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  53. ShawnLH (5,722 comments) says:

    Love the “womenishly” comment though. Bloody hilarious. Seriously Red, I spent a good deal of my youth while my Dad was away in the US Navy with an uncle who lived in the swamps of Florida. I killed my first gator with a knife when I was 11. In my time I have worked as a bouncer and a body guard.

    You might want to be careful with the insults my son. There are dragons in the world, and you boy are not one of them.

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  54. Redbaiter (9,561 comments) says:

    Your “POV” is too (sic) hand the country over to a Labour/Green/IMP coalition because your (sic) childishly angry

    Good grief, can’t even fucking spell or use grammar correctly and preaching to others of their failings.

    FFS, only a leftist could be so unaware of himself.

    “There is not and has not been a seriously conservative party in NZ that has had a remote chance of getting into power.”

    The National Party was that party until it was taken over by Progressives who were supported by dimwits like you, too numbskulled to work out what was going on.

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  55. Redbaiter (9,561 comments) says:

    “You might want to be careful with the insults my son.”

    You’ve already proved yourself a conscienceless liar. Your boasting of your courage and your skill with a knife is as hollow as your head.

    FY and your threats you leftist stooge. Right now I am starting to doubt that lack of intelligence is the only problem. It just could be more likely to be DNA.

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  56. ShawnLH (5,722 comments) says:

    “The National Party was that party until it was taken over by Progressives”

    Under Muldoon perhaps, but you would have called him a socialist because of his economics.

    There has been no conservative party in NZ with a serious chance of gaining power since the 70’s at least. And this has nothing to do with your fantasy of a progressive takeover, it’s just electoral reality.

    And there has never been one which reflected your views in any substantial way.

    Grow up Red. Reality is leaving you behind.

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  57. dad4justice (8,309 comments) says:

    ” I killed my first gator with a knife when I was 11. In my time I have worked as a bouncer and a body guard.

    You might want to be careful with the insults my son. There are dragons in the world, and you boy are not one of them.”

    You write utter rot, are you another identity of the bigot blouse you blowhard wanker. Go back to the standard you lefty turd tapper.

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  58. thedavincimode (6,871 comments) says:

    Please let it go Russell. I’m starting to feel embarrassed for you. Nobody reading your straw man abusive responses is going to think anything other than that in your dementia, you’re starting to channel Winston. For heaven’s sake man, pull yourself together.

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  59. Redbaiter (9,561 comments) says:

    “I’m starting to feel embarrassed for you.”

    You never feel anything for other men except sexual desire TDVM. You know that is the truth. Why not come out of the closet?

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  60. thedavincimode (6,871 comments) says:

    Goodness me. NZ’s leading male role model and father figure has joined the fray.

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  61. Redbaiter (9,561 comments) says:

    You pack of jackals and your cowardly attacks on a man in the state D4J is in are just utterly disgusting.

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  62. dad4justice (8,309 comments) says:

    Don’t worry red the likes of big blouse and thedavincimode are laughable gutless cowards who don’t faze me in the slightest.

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  63. thedavincimode (6,871 comments) says:

    Do you think that stunning riposte will divert attention from the fact that he’s making you look a fool Russell?

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  64. thedavincimode (6,871 comments) says:

    Why don’t you two hook up on line rather than pleasure each other this publicly?

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  65. Redbaiter (9,561 comments) says:

    “Do you think that stunning riposte will divert attention from the fact that he’s making you look a fool”

    I’m always mystified TDVM by your arrogant but inexplicable presumption that I should care about the thoughts of loser prog fuckwits like you.

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  66. thedavincimode (6,871 comments) says:

    Is that why you are so uninhibited in advertising your pre-occupation with homosexuality? It seems to serve as some sort of emotional grab-bag for you.

    Are you homosexual Russell. I promise I won’t think less of you.

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  67. Redbaiter (9,561 comments) says:

    “I promise I won’t think less of you.”

    I’m not homosexual TDVM, and given your everlasting fascination with me, I know that’s a big disappointment to you. Try someone else. Stupefiedboy or Milky might enjoy your advances.

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