Labour doesn’t want Hosking

July 24th, 2014 at 9:00 am by David Farrar

Stuff reports:

The Party is in a standoff with TVNZ over plans to use presenter to moderate the live televised leaders’ debates.

The state broadcaster is refusing to budge, declaring: “Mike is our man.”

Leader David Cunliffe’s inner circle believes the Seven Sharp host is too close to National and has compiled a dossier of examples.

I think it is pretty obviously that Mike Hosking has a centre-right worldview. Just as John Campbell has a centre-left worldview. The issue is not their world-view, but whether they would be biased and be unfair moderating a debate.

I’ve never heard of National demanding (for example) that John Campbell not moderate a TV3 leaders debate, so am surprised that Labour is so sensitive that they are trying to demand a moderator they agree with.

National’s campaign manager, Steven Joyce, rejected this and said he was happy with the current format of prime minister versus opposition leader.

He said the party had no issues with TV3 using John Campbell for its televised debate. “We’ve all got to trust the professionalism of the interviewers,” he said. “There are people who think John Campbell is to the Left but the prime minister is more than happy to front on both TV channels.”

Sensible.

 

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94 Responses to “Labour doesn’t want Hosking”

  1. gravedodger (1,566 comments) says:

    Complaining about the ref before the game is a recipe for Counterproductive, would you like sour grape sauce with that, people.

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  2. All_on_Red (1,581 comments) says:

    Who on earth watches TV3?

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  3. Pete George (23,558 comments) says:

    I thought David Cunliffe just pledged to focus on the issues that matter and not get distracted by sideshows.

    And here they are creating a sideshow themselves.

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  4. Changeiscoming (189 comments) says:

    So tell me why JK on approx 50% support would debate DC on approx 25%. I think it would be more appropriate for Labour to go into the minor party debates.

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  5. WineOh (630 comments) says:

    I thought that too Change, except if JK was left to debate himself he might run the risk of losing the debate.

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  6. thedavincimode (6,759 comments) says:

    Good point. Leave cunners lining up against winnie, colly and the mcgillidcuddies. That would enable him to compete at his own level.

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  7. Pete George (23,558 comments) says:

    Labour and it’s social media beavers seem to be busy making excuses for losing already. It’s difficult to explain their conspiracy, anti media “poor us” obsession any other way.

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  8. Rick Rowling (813 comments) says:

    Josie Pagani – What does Laabour do now? “First, stop blaming the media.”

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  9. OneTrack (3,085 comments) says:

    Wah. Wah. That Mike Hosking is just a big mweany and he might ask me some questions that I don’t know the answer to. Like where the money will come from to pay for my “policies” (aka soundbites).

    I only want to be interviewed by “fair”(tm) interviewers, like my mate John Campbell, who are quite happy when I say Yeah and then Nah. John also gives me hugs after the interview.

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  10. JC (955 comments) says:

    The conclusion for me is that for the first time in decades Labour hasn’t had control of the moderator process and.. for the first time in decades TV1 has felt fear of National and of being out of step with public opinion. It also means something about the long term future of Labour and politics in this country.

    JC

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  11. Tarquin North (295 comments) says:

    Diddums.

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  12. Longknives (4,737 comments) says:

    Are they pushing for someone ‘impartial’ like Katie Bradford to ‘moderate’??

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  13. shoreboy57 (140 comments) says:

    Genius from the War room. Was Matt not in the Caucus meeting about staying one message? So much for jobs, education, housing. Another day of media focus on anything but. What does this tell the voting public? Cunliffe is scared

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  14. Matthew Hooton (131 comments) says:

    I really don’t see why John Key, leading a party on 50% in the polls, should agree to debate a person leading a party polling 25% in the polls. The debates should be between Mr Key on one hand, with 50% of the time, and David Cunliffe say, 25% of the time, and Russel Norman and Metiria Turei with, say, 12.5% of the time each. This would more accurately reflect the true political situation. Anything else would be systematic bias towards Labour. The National media team should talk to the Green media team and agree to a format like this, and then present it to Labour, TVNZ and TV3 for further refinement. But a debate involving Key and Cunliffe alone is simply silly.

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  15. Komata (1,191 comments) says:

    Tarquin

    Your use of the word ‘diddums’ has (unintentionally) raised an interesting point:

    Given that she has fingers in many NZLP pies, one has to wonder what Aunty Helun is making of all this, although as she ‘engineered’ the disaster by her own, very deliberate actions, she’s probably not concerned, and has no doubt already issued her ‘instructions’ concerning Cunnliffe’s replacement, and how it is to be done.

    As I said, an interesting point. Thanks

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  16. anonymouse (715 comments) says:

    I’ve never heard of National demanding (for example) that John Campbell not moderate a TV3 leaders debate

    Thats because Key pwnd Campbell during that GCSB one-on-one , Key woudl be more than Happy to show him up again if he started to appear biased in any debate moderation,

    Basically the whole Hosking thing seems to indicate that the Labour media team are afraid to send Cunliffe out into a situation where he may encounter a hostile host who may show him up.

    It doesn’t exactly bode well for someone wanting to be PM….

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  17. toad (3,674 comments) says:

    I think it is pretty obviously that Mike Hosking has a centre-right worldview.

    There is nothing “centre” about Hosking (except for Redbaiter, of course).

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  18. Longknives (4,737 comments) says:

    Go on Toad- Tell us who you think is ‘Centre’ then….

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  19. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    It doesn’t matter what worldview he has, if he doesn’t demonstrate his impartiality in the debate, the audience will pick up on it, and give their sympathy to the team he picks on.

    Although as I pointed out in GD. Research results demonstrate that when a moderator has a particular bias, they tend to over compensate for it and if anything give the opposing team more leverage. If anyone should complain it should be National, because Hoskings is more likely to be harder on them.

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  20. OneTrack (3,085 comments) says:

    “Go on Toad- Tell us who you think is ‘Centre’ then….”

    Marx

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  21. Mark Thomson (81 comments) says:

    Is there really no one else in the NZ media with the right skills who isn’t associated with some ideological position? Whatever your political perspective, doesn’t that cause concern?

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  22. Rich Prick (1,699 comments) says:

    Wow. Labour is scared of the ref. Imagine how they must be feeling about the opposition. Key could equally say “I’m not going to debate with a sorry girl’s blouse on 9.5%”, but I think he quietly relishes the opportunity.

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  23. thePeoplesFlag (245 comments) says:

    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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  24. Brian Smaller (4,023 comments) says:

    Labour always stack the deck with these debates to get an advantage. Their squealing is pathetic.

    Hoskings is a politically compromised partisan who has personally endorsed the National party. He is nothing like John Campbell.

    Labour should boycott the debate if Hoskings is the moderator, and if they do at the end of the day TVNZ will have to buckle, unless they think Mike Hoskings is bigger than democracy.

    You are joking – Campbell the guy who stated that he was an advocate of left wing causes and publicly stated who he voted for (and guess what – it wasn’t National or Act )?

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  25. Pete George (23,558 comments) says:

    Cunliffe a couple of days ago:

    “I am sure that the caucus will be as determined as I am that we stick to our knitting and to our core messages about jobs, homes and families, and avoid distractions,” Cunliffe said.

    “We have got past anger a long time ago, we are focused on what a campaign needs – a positive contribution by everybody and focused on the issues that matter.”

    It looks like Labour sticking to their knitting means sharpening their needles and poking at the media.

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  26. dime (9,970 comments) says:

    “There is nothing “centre” about Hosking (except for Redbaiter, of course).”

    lol said the extreme leftist.

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  27. Longknives (4,737 comments) says:

    “Labour should boycott the debate if Hoskings is the moderator..”

    I’d take it one step further PeoplesFlag and say that Labour should boycott the election!
    It’s simply not fair that only the handful of Beneficiaries that can be bothered getting out of bed and the bulk of Karangahape Road’s Transgender community are going to vote for them…

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  28. Sponge (176 comments) says:

    thePeoplesFlag (170 comments) says:
    July 24th, 2014 at 9:55 am
    Hoskings is a politically compromised partisan who has personally endorsed the National party. He is nothing like John Campbell.

    Correct PeopleFlag at least Hoskins has the courage of his convictions to openly admit what his position is. Not like Campbell who tries to pretend he is in some way neutral.

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  29. OTGO (548 comments) says:

    If Hosking does the Nat v Lab debates then I’d love top see Paul Henry moderate the minor parties. That would be something else.

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  30. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    thePeoplesFlag

    Labour should boycott the debate if Hoskings is the moderator, and if they do at the end of the day TVNZ will have to buckle, unless they think Mike Hoskings is bigger than democracy.

    Ha ha, to serve democracy Labour should throw their toys out the cot.

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  31. thedavincimode (6,759 comments) says:

    Labour should boycott the debate if Hoskings is the moderator

    We live in hope.

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  32. mjw (396 comments) says:

    I don’t think it is about peoples private leanings. It is about their public statements. Hoskings has publicly supported JK and publicly dissed DC. If that isn’t bias, what would be?

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  33. Psycho Milt (2,412 comments) says:

    I have every confidence that Mike Hosking is no more biased than I am. Mind you, I hate right-wing political parties with a passion and no-one in their right minds would ask me to moderate a debate involving them, but yeah – I’m confident that Hosking is no more biased than I am.

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  34. Tauhei Notts (1,710 comments) says:

    JC’s comment at 9.26 is so important that I am going to repeat it.
    “For the first time in decades Labour has not had control of the moderator process”.
    Anybody can see the anxiety this is causing.

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  35. dime (9,970 comments) says:

    Psycho – you are from the extreme left.

    Hosking is hardly from the right. Centre right at best.

    Good to see you admitting your hate though.

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  36. kowtow (8,428 comments) says:

    There’s nothing “centre” about Campbell.

    He is a self confessed socialist activist.

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  37. Rich Prick (1,699 comments) says:

    Labour’s “War Room” is now officially the panic room.

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  38. emmess (1,428 comments) says:

    When is David Cunliffe going to say ‘sorry for being a pussy’?

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  39. kaykaybee (152 comments) says:

    The tell tale tit, whining, snotty-nosed kid tantrums from Labour need to stop. What on earth is happening in the War Room – they’ve entirely lost the plot!

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  40. gravedodger (1,566 comments) says:

    I understand the visceral dislike for John Key that some who would wish him gone display but there is only one Hosking here, not plural as in Hoskings.I suppose they make a similar error with “Keys”

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  41. ShawnLH (4,994 comments) says:

    Whenever Cunlifee says that he and Labour are going to focus on the issues, it’s a good indication that within 24 hours they will be focusing on something petty and silly and totally irrelevant.

    Matt McCarten, the game changer! Yeah right. :)

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  42. Psycho Milt (2,412 comments) says:

    Good to see you admitting your hate though.

    It’s something Hosking doesn’t have the bollocks for.

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  43. Manolo (13,734 comments) says:

    Oh dear, the divas and queers at The sub-Standard are all up in arms:
    Campbell has proven in the past that he’s capable of putting his personal preference to one side. It’s called professionalism. Hosking has proven himself incapable of doing that.

    In addition, Hosking is a twat.

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  44. stigie (1,163 comments) says:

    Say something over at the Stranded about what a top bloke Hosking is and you will most likely get a permanent ban !!~

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  45. Simon (719 comments) says:

    The guardian & the telegraph are trying to get a leaders debate in the UK organised through you tube for next year. Questions are emailed in.

    Not sure why DC & JK need to be on tv. This all turns in the Mike Hosking & John Campbell show and about them. Too stupid.

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  46. Grendel (1,002 comments) says:

    If they want impartiality, they could get perigo, he cannot stand either party.

    why do the left hate so much? i guess it could be a natural side effect of the pointlessness of their policies and the requirement for violence most of them have, or it could just be that hateful people are more attracted to the left?

    at least psycho is finally admitting he is a hatefilled drone, saves having to worry about any semblance of rationale thought from him.

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  47. Pete George (23,558 comments) says:

    Laura McQuillan ‏@mcquillanatorz

    Cunliffe says he doesn’t have a personal opinion on Hosking hosting TVNZ’s debate, and is leaving it to staff to look into.

    That’s real leadership, leaving it to Matt the Knife. Back.

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  48. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,903 comments) says:

    The poor little petals.

    I say delegate the task to Bob Jones.

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  49. rangitoto (247 comments) says:

    TVNZ should just get a neutral outsider. Cam Slater would be ideal IMO.

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  50. Keeping Stock (10,337 comments) says:

    @ thePeoplesFlag – by all means criticise Hosking, but it does little for your credibility if you can’t spell his name right.

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  51. dime (9,970 comments) says:

    If Hosking is “far right”, id love to hear what our resident lefties think the far right actually is?

    Ive never heard hosking campaign for a flat tax, an ultra low tax, an end to welfare, an end to the maori gravy train, demanding govt spending be slashed.

    hell, hes behind labours latest slush fund for councils ffs.

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  52. James Stephenson (2,171 comments) says:

    Is there really no one else in the NZ media with the right skills who isn’t associated with some ideological position? Whatever your political perspective, doesn’t that cause concern?

    People who aren’t associated with ideological positions are generally those who never express an opinion, which by and large means that they’re boring. Boring people don’t tend to get picked to front TV programs.

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  53. Richard Hurst (855 comments) says:

    Well its not like Hosking is using his workplace as a campaign base for National party activists …unlike a certain situation involving the Labour party and Maori TV earlier this year.

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  54. Psycho Milt (2,412 comments) says:

    If Hosking is “far right”, id love to hear what our resident lefties think the far right actually is?

    This from someone who doesn’t know what extreme left is – kind of fitting…

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  55. Psycho Milt (2,412 comments) says:

    at least psycho is finally admitting he is a hatefilled drone…

    at least Grendel is finally admitting he is beating his wife…

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  56. thedavincimode (6,759 comments) says:

    … oops … and in breaking news, he’s just made it worse :P

    Milt

    Chill. You need to let go and get into the swing of things. Goof and the fish man were never this funny.

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  57. dime (9,970 comments) says:

    “If Hosking is “far right”, id love to hear what our resident lefties think the far right actually is?

    This from someone who doesn’t know what extreme left is – kind of fitting…”

    so, dont want to explain?

    Extreme left = marxist imho = you

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  58. Pete George (23,558 comments) says:

    More on this, from the Herald:

    Mr Cunliffe confirmed this morning that his office had raised concerns about the choice of Mr Hosking for the one on one debate between Mr Cunliffe and National leader John Key because of Mr Hosking’s pro-National views.

    “Concerns were raised by my staff when it became apparent Mr Hosking had introduced Mr Key at his 2013 State of the Nation speech and appeared to warmly endorse him. We are in discussion with TVNZ about that and other matters.”

    His staff were preparing a dossier on statements made by Mr Hosking that were of concern because TVNZ had asked for evidence of the concerns Labour had raised.

    He refused to comment when asked if he was considering pulling out of the debate if Hosking did moderate the debate.

    “I will take further advice. I’m not prepared to comment on that now.”

    He said Mr Hosking’s apparent endorsement of National “raised some questions that TVNZ will want to very carefully consider.”

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11298450

    Will take advice rather than lead on this and go back to his knotting.

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  59. dime (9,970 comments) says:

    LMAO the moron cunliffe also upset at a rugby magazine.

    Cunliffe, there is a word for dudes like you. We call them “bitches”.

    Mr Cunliffe also said he was “very surprised” by a Rugby News magazine cover featuring Mr Key dressed as an All Black and flanked by other All Blacks, including captain Richie McCaw.

    ” I was surprised to see it. It’s not often you see a major sporting body getting involved in politics.”

    He did not know if the All Blacks had known about the cover or given their consent. “I would like to know more about the background to that. I think it is a very surprising thing to see.”

    He would not say if he thought it was fair.

    “That is a matter for the public to make up their own mind about. All I can say is I’m a passionate rugby fan, a huge All Blacks supporter and I will continue to be when I am Prime Minister.” Asked if was a bit over the top, he said: ”

    The question of style and humility is a separate question from the question of appropriateness.”

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  60. Pete George (23,558 comments) says:

    Today it”s Cunliffe may boycott leaders debate over Hosking

    Will his next step be to boycott the election of media and pollsters don’t stop being mean to him?

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  61. Rich Prick (1,699 comments) says:

    Perhaps Cunliffe needs to explain why his taxpayer funded Chief of Staff is involved in this election matter. Is McCarten’s appointment a thinly veiled rort of the taxpayer as we always suspected?

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  62. Mark (1,488 comments) says:

    Labour are right to be concerned about Hosking who’s political bias is blatant but whinging about it is simply stupid. No one cares and there is nothing Hosking can.do to derail labour that Cunlife hasn’t already done in more spectacular and effective fashion already.

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  63. tom hunter (4,805 comments) says:

    The US Republicans have often made similar attacks on various debate moderators as leaning to the left or even being outright partisans for the Democrats – George Stephanopoulos, Gwen Iffil and Candy Crowley being merely the most obvious targets.

    A frequent response from the US left wing has been to simply dismiss these attacks as cynical pre-debate spin. In other words the GOP did not really believe this but figured it would put the interviewer/moderator on the back foot when it came to questioning the GOP representatives.

    Could the same be said here? Are Matt McCarten and company cunning enough to try the same thing or do Labour and the left really think this and are genuinely outraged?

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  64. jonar (19 comments) says:

    Apparently John Campbell is a “self confessed socialist activist”, if he’d ever called John Key a moron do you think he’d be appropriate to host the debate?

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  65. marcw (247 comments) says:

    Yet another demonstration of why David Cunliffe is unfit to be Prime Minister. Does he think everyone he meets as Head of State will be ‘nice’ to him? How will he handle hostile negotiators when in talks critical to the country’s welfare? Perhaps he will act like this – delegate to his Head of Staff to ask some questions and further advice, or maybe ask them to send someone else! This is pathetic and a sign of a very weak person. Not someone I’d like to represent NZ.

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  66. doggone7 (801 comments) says:

    Richard Hurst
    “Well its not like Hosking is using his workplace as a campaign base for National party activists …”

    What’s an activist? What’s a campaign base? Is a microphone a base?

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  67. tom hunter (4,805 comments) says:

    Mind you, I hate right-wing political parties with a passion …

    That seems very unhealthy. I assume that Kiwiblog is a way of partially getting the rage out of your system – before something bad happens?

    Although I suppose there are people who thrive on it.

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  68. Barnsley Bill (983 comments) says:

    Seriously, is Cunliffe such a complete and utter wimp as well as a weapons grade fake.
    I cannot believe they would come out and say this. Completely clueless.
    They are in serious danger of falling into the teens if this keeps up.
    Even Marcus Lush was giving him shit this morning.. MARCUS FRICKIN LUSH. A man whose grasp on politics stalled sometime around his 15th birthday and he was all over Cunliffe like a fat lass on a cream cake. Cunliffe started by demanding a subject change and then meekly just fell into line. He is broken, busted, beaten and bereft of ideas, charisma, believability and credibility.

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  69. Sponge (176 comments) says:

    all over Cunliffe like a fat lass on a cream cake

    Gold. To top it off the fat bird in my office just asked why I was laughing…

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  70. Psycho Milt (2,412 comments) says:

    I assume that Kiwiblog is a way of partially getting the rage out of your system – before something bad happens?

    You seem to be confusing me with igm. I come to Kiwiblog for the comments-thread equivalent of mud-wrestling with circus freaks – it’s messy, ugly and I should probably be ashamed of it, but it is entertaining.

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  71. Psycho Milt (2,412 comments) says:

    Are Matt McCarten and company cunning enough to try the same thing or do Labour and the left really think this and are genuinely outraged?

    An electoral debate moderator who’s personally endorsed one of the participants would probably be a step too far even for the Americans.

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  72. lastmanstanding (1,293 comments) says:

    The perfect unbiased impartial moderator is……………………….. Bryan Edwards!!!!!!

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  73. RJL (146 comments) says:

    DPF (and Joyce) nice try at the false equivalence between Hosking and Campbell.

    Sure, Campbell appears to have left(ish) opinions, but in his journalism he merely seeks answers from those in power. It is just a consequence of National being in government that most of the answers he seeks are inconvenient to National.

    Whereas, Hosking is barely a journalist at all. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=10862709

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  74. Paulus (2,626 comments) says:

    Why not Andrea Vance – I love the Irish lilt.
    She knows all the secrets so she can shut down either party.

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  75. OneTrack (3,085 comments) says:

    Psycho – “This from someone who doesn’t know what extreme left is – kind of fitting…”

    Extreme left is the Greens. And Mana.

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  76. Pete George (23,558 comments) says:

    A solution to this is on it’s way, another petition:

    http://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/television-new-zealand-calling-to-have-mike-hosking-dropped-from-moderatingthe-political-debates

    That’s should really push Cunliffes case for him (he doesn’t seem capable of doing it himself).

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  77. OneTrack (3,085 comments) says:

    rjl – “Sure, Campbell appears to have left(ish) opinions, but in his journalism he merely seeks answers from those in power.”

    What a load of …. The guy is a green party sycophant. The love fest he gave to Len Brown was not “seeking answers from those in power”. It was doing his bit for the cause to get “his” man out of trouble.

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  78. Psycho Milt (2,412 comments) says:

    Extreme left is the Greens. And Mana.

    Not even close. The extreme left want at minimum the socialisation of the means of production, at maximum the violent overthrow of the existing social order. Haven’t seen either of those in the Green or Mana manifestos.

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  79. OneTrack (3,085 comments) says:

    Pete @1:41 – so the left are doing their best to screw the scrum in their favour. Again.

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  80. OneTrack (3,085 comments) says:

    “The extreme left want at minimum the socialisation of the means of production”

    Do you remember a little policy called New Zealand Power? I am sure it is still in their manifesto. Socialising the means of production. You said it yourself.

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  81. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    I hope TVNZ does cave and switch to someone else. Cun’liffe has been handed a bonus with Hosking, as the sympathy vote because the moderator is a Nat supporter would be his best hope of picking up support.

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  82. oldpark (316 comments) says:

    Heard Cunliffe bleating about Mike Hoskins being a moderator in TVNZ election debate.Cunliffe doesn’t have to turn up IT IS NOT COMPULSORY..Labour would get more votes if he wasn’t in the debates.Every time he appears on TV Labour loses votes.

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  83. Richard Hurst (855 comments) says:

    Doggone7 you ask “What’s an activist? What’s a campaign base? Is a microphone a base?”

    Well, TVNZ’s Maori and Pacific unit was being used as a base for Labour Party campaigning. Labour Party members were ushered into TVNZ for a meeting. Making money for Labour was discussed, TVNZ emails used. Three other staff were involved.
    Hosking isn’t doing any of that, and neither is Campbell so if I was Labour I wouldn’t be frightened of Hosking and if I was Key I wouldn’t be frightened of Campbell and yet it seems Labour are not only frightened of Hosking they so terrified they don’t want him as presenter. If Cunliffe is so easily frightened off Labours chances are even worse than the most pessimistic, bias TV presenter would claim. Its wonder David Cunliffe steps outside his million dollar home these days he must be so frightened that someone is going to ask him a question or worse- challenge him to a debate!

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  84. OneTrack (3,085 comments) says:

    “I hope TVNZ does cave and switch to someone else.”

    Maybe they could get Tamati Coffey back on a contract basis. Do you think Cunliffe would be happy with him?

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  85. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    Ha, yeah Tamati Coffey would probably be ok with them, or perhaps Shane Taurima.

    NZ can breathe a big sigh of relief that “Bomber” Bradbury has decided to boycott the show after learning Hosking would be the moderator though. There’s a face made for moonless nights.

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  86. jonar (19 comments) says:

    Do you think John Key would be happy with a moderator that had called him a moron?

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  87. thedavincimode (6,759 comments) says:

    Joyce (leadership)

    He said the party had no issues with TV3 using John Campbell for its televised debate. “We’ve all got to trust the professionalism of the interviewers,” he said. “There are people who think John Campbell is to the Left but the prime minister is more than happy to front on both TV channels.”

    cunners (pussyship)

    I will take further advice. I’m not prepared to comment on that now

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  88. big bruv (13,879 comments) says:

    It is no surprise that vermin such as Bradbury are against Hosking moderating these debates. It demonstrates what the left in NZ is all about. They don’t want free speech, they want, and demand, totally biased broadcasting and one sided coverage. After all, this is what they have enjoyed for at least the last fifteen years.

    They are not asking for fair and balanced (no pun intended) coverage, they want all moderators to be like Comrade Campbell, to them this is the norm.

    Will it strike them as another case of blatant hypocrisy?, not at all, this is how the left see things and what they have come to expect.

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  89. Reid (16,439 comments) says:

    The issue is not their world-view, but whether they would be biased and be unfair moderating a debate.

    Why?

    Who pays any attention to a moderator. If an aspirant to be Prime Minister can’t handle a biased little twerps with the limited intellect and narrow worldviews of either Hoskings or Campbell then I wouldn’t vote for them even if they were on my side.

    I would expect all participants to walk all over the moderator and wipe their boots on his face without even breaking a sweat even if they’re not being biased and if they are why it’s even more fun. And if they don’t or can’t do that then in my view they’re just not the sort of person I want in the PM seat when the pressure’s on and the really smart clever people in the international opposition camp are being great big meanies towards us. Which happens all the time at that level.

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  90. OneTrack (3,085 comments) says:

    DPF – Shouldn’t the title of your post be “Labour is scared of Hosking”

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  91. Johnboy (16,483 comments) says:

    Seems fair to me. Key and Hosking could say.

    “SORRY David isn’t here…..Let’s get on with debating the stuff that really matters to New Zealanders without a useless distraction like him! ” :)

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  92. Sir Cullen's Sidekick (888 comments) says:

    Oh no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If Cunning Cunliffe do no debate John Key, Labour’s poll ratings could actually improve…Why not ask Crim DotCon to moderate the debate?

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  93. Chuck Bird (4,880 comments) says:

    I see Russell Norman was on TV making fun of Cunliffe with his whining it is not fair.

    Then I seen Hosking’s brief comments and the end of Seven Sharp. He has a very sharp wit. It was only a minute long but it is worth watching on TVNZ on demand.

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  94. Pete George (23,558 comments) says:

    It seemes that in April Cunliffe was happy to do an election debate with Hosking.

    Audio of Labour leader David Cunliffe speaking to Newstalk ZB’s Tim Fookes in April and stating he will happily take part in an election debate with Mike Hosking.

    http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/auckland/listen-on-demand/audio/tf-david-cunliffe-says-he-ll-debate-with-hosking-25thjuly2014

    This seems to be par for Labour’s course.

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