General Debate 2 October 2018

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krazykiwi

“The art of taxation consists in so plucking the goose as to obtain the largest possible amount of feathers with the smallest possible amount of hissing”. — Jean-Baptiste Colbert, Finance Minister to Louis XIV

Well Jacinda, if you could tear yourself away from the narcissistic rush you get from the fawning media, you would hear a hissing.

No it’s not faint, you’ve just not heard since your surprise appointment. But the hissing is growing louder, as every New Zealander has their livelihood impacted by your fuel tax increases which are creeping through to prices and unemployment.

The hissing is growing louder as your vanity tax see whole industries cancelled by decree, and we hear proposals for you to plunder private wealth.

The hissing is growing louder still as our taxes are wasted on cronies, personal jets, wealthy students, working group consultants (see cronies), slush funds and multi-million dollar talkfests.
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October 2, 2018 8:00am
- oldgolfer
  
  You are right, Krazy, the hissing is getting louder.
  Oil reached $85 a barrel this morning; the pain is just starting.
  Didn’t NZ once have an oil and gas industry?
  Oh, that’s right.
  
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  October 2, 2018 8:10am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    and Trump is looking to expand theirs, with an aim at becoming the largest producer.
    
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    October 2, 2018 8:34am
  - Fisiani
    
    But we have millions of $85 a barrel oil deposits all around New Zealand that might soon be worth $100 a barrel that we will soon be able to use instead of costly imports. But only if we get rid of this knee -jerk government.
    
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    October 2, 2018 9:41am
    - stigie
      
      “But only if we get rid of this knee -jerk government.”
      
      Might be a bit late now Fisiani, the investors are packing up and running.
      Even if these existing permits find something, will this rabble issue a mining license..?
      
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      October 2, 2018 11:35am
      - gorse
        
        Emphasis on “jerk”
        
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        October 2, 2018 12:35pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  The best way to destroy the capitalist system is to debauch the currency.
  Vladimir Lenin
  
  The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation. Vladimir Lenin
  
  Sound familiar?
  
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  October 2, 2018 8:19am
- fylde
  
  The socialist taxes are just starting ! Remember they inherited a fiscal surplus. With never enbding sopending incraeses more taxes are inevitable. How to destroy an economy.
  
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  October 2, 2018 8:26am
  - Viking2
    
    Yep and lookout for Jacinda to give the teachers more. Plaintive cry on the news this morning. We are doing all we can!!!!Please be patient with us.
    
    Like housing and other things they actually have no idea of what needs doing and like all good socialists think it gets fixed with giving more money from other peoples pockets.
    
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    October 2, 2018 8:46am
    - waikatogirl
      
      “Please be patient with us”, too late, the horse has bolted from the barn because you opened the door and smacked it on the rump! All that green light virtue signalling to the unions before the election coming back to bite Cindy and plenty more strikes in the wings for you and your’s to sort…
      
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      October 2, 2018 9:02am
      - Morrissey
        
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        You’re correct that it’s not an easy task ahead of the government. Labour’s having to clean up after nine years of incompetent, hostile mis-government by National.
        
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        October 2, 2018 9:12am
      - holysheet
        
        You forgot it’s the poor taxpayer, NOT FUCKING CINDY who is paying for all this.
        
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        October 2, 2018 11:21am
      - Paulus
        
        No, No, No, there will be no Strikes on my watch !
        Remember who said that ?
        
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        October 2, 2018 1:19pm
      - riffer
        
        Horrendous misquote. Please don’t use outright lies to back your point of view.
        
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        October 2, 2018 1:59pm
    - Fisiani
      
      When you have pissed away $2,800,000 on rich tertiary students of course there is no money for those who teach. Labour already know that they have their votes so do not care,
      
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      October 2, 2018 9:44am
      - alwyn
        
        I suggest that you put the right number of zeroes on the number.
        Try $2,800,000,000.
        Or if you want to satisfy the Accountants put the cents on as well.
        $2,800,000,000.00
        
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        October 2, 2018 12:18pm
      - riffer
        
        Hmmm… Slightly more than they used to prop up those who were gonna lose money in Hubbard’s failed financial company.
        
        But that’s good spending eh… making sure that those with money don’t lose it.
        
        I wonder how many of those people voted Labour? Not many… if any.
        
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        October 2, 2018 2:01pm
      - waikatogirl
        
        Ah Riffer, Hulun passed that policy before she sank SSLabour at the next election. National were obliged to pay out.
        
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        October 2, 2018 2:38pm
      - riffer
        
        Kind of like the Tahr cull, you mean?
        
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        October 2, 2018 3:13pm
- KevOB
  
  The art of taxation is founded in equity, certainty, affordability, acceptability & collectability.
  
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  October 2, 2018 8:33am
- Classic Liberal
  
  Taxinda and team are drumming up expectations: own houses for most people, much higher-quality rentals for the rest, teachers wanting a 16% pay increase, much higher fuel costs already etc…..
  
  Looks like immense inflation is on the way.
  
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  October 2, 2018 10:30am
  - igm
    
    Bet no-one would want to own a house in this environment. Bet these scumbags vote Labour and drag millions off taxpayers.
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/107529652/the-nightmare-of-housing-nzs-sustainable-tenancies
    
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    October 2, 2018 6:20pm
- freethinker
  
  In time with no change of direction the noise changes to that of a small package being delivered at high speed.
  
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  October 2, 2018 12:34pm
redeye

One of the most humorous things I have seen all week is $27,000 MC Alison Mau fronting a pay equity project on Stuff.
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October 2, 2018 8:00am
- Left Right and Centre
  
  I like a stuff comment about her; she sees problems everywhere she looks.
  
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  October 2, 2018 8:15am
  - sooty
    
    She is the problem!
    
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    October 2, 2018 9:24am
    - Surely Knott
      
      Patrick Gower was virtue signalling up a storm yesterday too. Remember when journos reported the news, then they started giving opinions, now they are having a crack at writing policy. Gower wants to pay parents for extra school holiday leave. The comments were almost unanimous that they are screwing the economy and there will be nothing left to give.
      
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      October 2, 2018 9:30am
  - Philview
    
    Today she (AM) is ranting about too many white people on Married at First Sight. Most of us aren’t fixated by the colour of someone else’s skin and don’t keep score of the ethnicity of people on TV programmes.
    
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    October 2, 2018 10:23am
  - freethinker
    
    Including the mirror.
    
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    October 2, 2018 12:35pm
Chuck Bird

MOST POWERFUL TRUMP VIDEO EVER – THE VIDEO YOU WERE NEVER SUPPOSED TO SEE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=213&v=7A1b0g9EKO8
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October 2, 2018 8:00am
- Inandout
  
  No, no, the AM Show said Trump was abusive to a couple of female reporters. CNN fed news everyday, no change there.
  
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  October 2, 2018 8:06am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Today the US Canada and Mexico signed a NEW trade deal,did away with NAFTA.
  BUTBUTBUT…
  The MSM told us he was anti trade
  
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  October 2, 2018 8:22am
  - stephieboy
    
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    RW Capitalist, did they just? Where?
    
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    October 2, 2018 8:53am
    - DJ Ward
      
      You have to be deaf and blind to reality to have said that.
      
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      October 2, 2018 9:18am
      - sooty
        
        They tell me it makes you go deaf and blind!. Stephies proved it.
        
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        October 2, 2018 9:25am
    - backster
      
      Glad you liked it Stephie.
      
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      October 2, 2018 10:25am
  - Cobolt24
    
    The MSM have always lambasted him about being anti trade, i don’t think he ever said he was, he’s for it provided it’s fair.
    
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    October 2, 2018 1:24pm
    - riffer
      
      I don’t think he’s anti-trade. I do, however, think he’s an ignorant blowhard, with narcissistic tendencies and an empathy problem.
      
      He’d fit in fine here.
      
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      October 2, 2018 2:03pm
      - RW Capitalist
        
        Achievement is all that matters.
        Besides if that is what you think of him..fine.
        You opinion is your opinion…welcome to it.
        BUT
        To be consistent, you must be using the same words
        “Ignorant blowhard, with narcissistic tendencies and an empathy problem. ”
        To describe
        Helen Clarke
        Jacinda Ardern
        DAVID LANGE
        
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        October 2, 2018 4:04pm
- Harkman
  
  Floyd Mayweather hit it on spot, these same MSM folks loved Trump for years, then he runs as a Republican and suddenly he’s a racist and a rapist.
  
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  October 2, 2018 9:25am
- waikatogirl
  
  “The silent majority is back and we are going to take our country back.”
  A great electioneering slogan for National.
  
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  October 2, 2018 9:45am
  - Paulus
    
    But so much real damage has been done already that is almost impossible to correct it – even in three terms.
    And there is a lot more to be damaged that will be to be introduced before the next election that cannot be undone.
    
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    October 2, 2018 1:23pm
    - riffer
      
      I can’t work out whether you’re talking about Labour or National, or whether that would make any difference.
      
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      October 2, 2018 3:15pm
igm

Well Crockery is going to “Preform”! — Is “Watchink”! — and is “Thinkink” about “Somethink”!
Best media lay off Bridges’ speech problems, this lying POS is a disgrace to her unelected position as PM.
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October 2, 2018 8:03am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  She’ll stay posadiv even if things are fustrading.
  
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  October 2, 2018 8:38am
dave_c_

Bloody Adhern on Breakfast this morning :
‘We are aware of that’
‘We understand that is the case’
‘We will be looking into that’
……….
Not one indication of what is being done, or will be done.
Not one indicator that she has any clue about how to deal with the growing list of serious issues facing NZ and it’s people.
What a narcissistic bitch.
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October 2, 2018 8:05am
- DigNap15
  
  Yes I think was schooled in how to answer all those questions.
  
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  October 2, 2018 8:07am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    or….not answer them.
    
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    October 2, 2018 8:24am
- Inandout
  
  She has lost the fairy sparkle though, looking spookily like a young Helen from protesting days with creepy Goff. Cindy appears like a floundering fish, gasping and perhaps realising the end is nigh.
  
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  October 2, 2018 8:11am
DigNap15

At least Simon knows how to pronounce productiviTy
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October 2, 2018 8:06am
- RW Capitalist
  
  and seems to know what it actually is…..
  
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  October 2, 2018 8:25am
secondcumming

Went to head out to the gun club last night and the reserve fuel-light came on. Shot into the local BP and filled up….. $167.00 later I was on my way. This time last year it was about $115. That’s Labor I guess.

Interesting to compare what it would cost for the same fill in *any other country in the world*……check this out:

https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/gasoline_prices/
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October 2, 2018 8:07am
- Inandout
  
  Just be a good socialist and pay up.
  
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  October 2, 2018 8:14am
- cmm
  
  There is a huge problem with looking at global petrol prices. They don’t cover the same costs.
  
  For instance, our petrol price covers ACC (ie. essentially injury insurance) while in places like USA you have to pay separate injury insurance. That makes up some of the difference.
  
  Still, when people see $50 added to a fill up and PriNZess handing out billions to universities and the Islands, they make a connection and it doesn’t look good.
  
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  October 2, 2018 8:20am
- fylde
  
  Indeed and the chart is dated Sept 2018 before the latest tax impost plus the recent fall in the dollar. WIth ACC looking like they will increase petrol taxes we are onlyu getting dearer.
  
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  October 2, 2018 8:30am
- simpleton1
  
  It seems the COL have found an up welling stream of $$$$ to siphon of from the fuel pumps.
  
  An enticement for the ones seeking a green heaven, as it takes more from the ones that do not don lyrca, or use a bus pass. 🙂
  
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  October 2, 2018 8:39am
  - Paulus
    
    Plus GST on every increase.
    
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    October 2, 2018 1:24pm
- KiWombat
  
  Second, you should consider those who use diesel, like the productive sector. Diesel has doubled in price since October last year.
  
  On the coast one of our outlets was nicknamed “dollar diesel” because they were always able to sell diesel below $1. This time last year it was -88 per litre, now the days of “dollar diesel” are gone with it being almost $1-70 !
  
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  October 2, 2018 8:54am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Yes I’ve noticed this. Can anyone explain why diesel and petrol prices don’t track each other more closely? Is it driven by retail pricing, or wholesale supply, or?
    
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    October 2, 2018 9:02am
    - KiWombat
      
      More like a case of squeaky wheel syndrome I would think !
      
      And then on top of that, from yesterday RUC charges were increased by 10%. Two tax increases for diesel vehicles within one week – expect prices increases to flow through to your Big Mac soon !
      
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      October 2, 2018 10:34am
      - Paulus
        
        My Supermarket yesterday when questioned the Manager, who we know, said that they have to put up prices as delivery charges are up.
        And there will be much more to come before Christmas.
        They are dreading the backlash not of their doing.
        
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        October 2, 2018 1:26pm
- MCos
  
  According to that chart its $NZ1.78/lit in Thailand; far cheaper than here. Min wage in that country is less than $NZ20/day. Not many people would earn fifteen thousand a year. Food is cheaper, housing can be cheaper, cars are not, pay for motorways & healthcare, so on & so forth.
  Here in Godzone nothing is cheap except small matter of healthcare, basics of education, beaches, parks, motorways (except one)
  
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  October 2, 2018 9:00am
  - starboard
    
    91 octane is 30 baht a litre here in Thailand.
    
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    October 2, 2018 12:19pm
- Harkman
  
  Ha! Last night I shot down to my local BP (the one Donna Marie Lever was standing outside of 2-3 nights ago) to check an account. While waiting for the atm I looked to my left, “$2.79” for a Mars bar. I could have sworn they were only $0.80 the last time I looked. Petrol through the roof, Mars Bars in hyperinflation, currency in free fall. We are Venezuela, we are a basket case.
  
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  October 2, 2018 9:23am
- Surely Knott
  
  Agree. Someone on my facebook group sent a share to their american friends gloating about how lucky we are to have Jacinda compared to their president. She should have included a link to the petrol prices to give them an idea of what the downsides are. Imagine being able to fill up for 87cents a litre!
  
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  October 2, 2018 9:28am
  - KiWombat
    
    We DO fill up for -87 per litre – then they add taxes !
    
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    October 2, 2018 10:21am
Left Right and Centre

hmmm . . . I’m just starting to sit up and take notice of the End Of Life Choice Bill.

And I represent a large section of semi-informed morons in NZ society. If I’m starting to pay attention – it must be starting to ‘grow legs’ and ‘get oxygen’.

Bloody interesting mate – what a great issue to test the politicians and their ‘beliefs’ etc.

(psssst – get typing – you know you’re triggered . . .)
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October 2, 2018 8:07am
KevOB

But wait there’s more: first NZ next Australia?

https://www.rt.com/news/440015-crowe-new-zealand-australia/
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October 2, 2018 8:08am
cmm

Has the worm turned on Global Warming?

Even the Herald is now running stuff that would have been labelled “denier” a year ago.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12135151

Perhaps all the “trannies are women too” stuff is being amped up to replace it. There always has to be some way to bash successful Western society.

Capitalism has failed, nope; global warming, nope; gotta find something else: men are women if they want to be This one is less rational and easier to disprove than anything before, so surely won’t last as long.

It makes you wonder what’s next? Or has that turned too and we’re going to head back to sanity.
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October 2, 2018 8:09am
- KevOB
  
  MIT with the National Science Foundation has recently published a paper showing the earth has to get to 68 deg.C before runaway heat can occur. That’s hotter than most hot water systems.
  
  https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/09/24/mit-climate-tipping-point-busted-globe-needs-to-reach-152f-before-runaway-greenhouse-effect-kicks-in/
  
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  October 2, 2018 8:43am
  - cmm
    
    Yup, so basically the whole “got to do something now because the temperature might go up 2 degrees in 50 years”/”tipping point” narrative is complete bullshit.
    
    There is no need to do everything in a mad rush. There is no need to stress the economy and potential food supply etc on the off chance something might happen in 50 years.
    
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    October 2, 2018 8:56am
    - krazykiwi
      
      We’ve never needed to do anything, because there’s never been a crisis.
      
      The entire scam was cooked up by the UN looking for ways to fund their un-elected, socialist, global governance aspirations.
      
      It’s been working so far, as the average guilt-shamed taxpayer has kept their wallet open.
      
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      October 2, 2018 9:07am
      - stephieboy
        
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        krazykiwi, give your paranoia a break!
        
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        October 2, 2018 9:09am
      - Poppa
        
        Open your eyes Stephie
        
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        October 2, 2018 9:23am
      - Dave Mann
        
        Yep…. same with plastic bags and drinking straws
        
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        October 2, 2018 12:31pm
    - KevOB
      
      Good quality science support too.
      
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      October 2, 2018 12:45pm
    - Stamper
      
      The tide is definitely changing CMM. I have followed this hoax for 20 years. I recommend looking at:
      https://wattsupwiththat.com/
      and https://www.thegwpf.com/
      My guess is that by 2020 the stampede will be away from Green Energy etc to safe supplies. It is now really just a political issue.
      
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      October 2, 2018 4:58pm
holysheet

President Trump walks into the oval office at the white house .
Everywhere all his black staff are oiled up, lying on tables being worked on by a team of masseurs.
Trump turns to his aid and rages ” I said we need to get back to the oval office to massage the figures you deaf prick”
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October 2, 2018 8:10am
- VicParking
  
  Holy good joke but why Trump.
  Why not Clare or Robbo, especially Robbo.
  I sense the democrat in your crawling out.
  
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  October 2, 2018 8:28am
  - holysheet
    
    After yesterdays joke being deleted by SOMEONE, after getting 39 upticks, I thought I would tone it down a bit for today. We don’t call our darkies here nigras do we?
    Me A democrat?
    Wash your mouth out. I would rather eat dog shit than have anything to do with those losers
    
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    October 2, 2018 11:26am
lifesgood

Looks like that appalling Jan Thomas has got away with it. She just waited for the fuss to die down and it seems it has. What a disgrace to NZ and free speech. I just hope that some day her stupidity will bite her in her bum and that the reputation of Massey plummets. It is obvious the whole campus is being run by intimidating Maori activists.
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October 2, 2018 8:11am
- Scott
  
  Yes as an old boy of Massey University and with one of my sons studying there today its a shame the level of political correctness that the university has fallen into.
  The official policy of the university appears to be – all things Maori good. All white people who resist the takeover by all things Maori are bad. And white people of the right are especially bad and beyond the pale and should not even be allowed to speak in our university.
  Given that universities are the product of Western Christian civilisation and that pre European Maori had no written language, many of us find this stance a little hard to take. ?
  
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  October 2, 2018 8:21am
  - DigNap15
    
    If I was a parent, I would take my child out of that wananga and tell them why I am doing it.
    Then when they only have 100 students left, they will disappear up their own ass.
    
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    October 2, 2018 8:36am
  - Paulus
    
    And that move to becoming the other Maori University (for 15% of the population) under the auspices of an Australian.
    Surely she should go back to Australia and do something for their own aboriginals and stop putting us non Maori in her perception of their place.
    The University will suffer mark my words.
    Wait for next years entries which will be down.
    
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    October 2, 2018 8:53am
    - lifesgood
      
      I hope so but I suspect they’ll struggle on by lowering their standards of entry and taking students rejected by other universities.
      
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      October 2, 2018 9:16am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Massey has been slipping in University ratings.
      It is now ranked down with Lincoln at the bottom by the Times Higher Education rating.
      (That’s a shocker as everyone knows Lincoln is on Life-support)
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12132216
      
      https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/359052/most-nz-universities-slip-in-global-rankings
      
      Massey will fail to attract top staff, and soon will be full of 2nd-raters who can’t get employment in other universities.
      
      (I am sorry to see Massey in this state… Hubby & I got a pretty good Science undergrad education from there … set us up to do well at University of Wellington aka Victoria)
      
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      October 2, 2018 9:42am
      - Scott
        
        Yes Massey still has some good degrees but the social justice warriors are doing their best to drive it into the dust.
        Massey has in the past been driven by innovation and forward thinking. It could be again.
        But first they need to get an innovative clear thinker at the top, not a hard left idealogue. The University board needs to take action immediately to restore Massey’s good name and reputation.
        
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        October 2, 2018 10:18am
      - SGA
        
        Massey has been slipping in University ratings.
        
        Maggy, do you know how these global rankings work? I’m curious – Let’s say you make the top 250 (as Auckland, Otago, Vic, and Canterbury did). If there are 2,500 universities in the global survey, then that’s top 10%, 5,000 then it’s top 5%, 10,000 then it’s top 2.5%. In absolute terms, I have no idea how well they are doing. In the USA alone, for example, most states have at least 2 or 3 major state universities (and in larger states nearly every major city has at least one significant university – UCLA, UCSD, USF, etc). Then there are the important private ones dotted throughout (e.g., Harvard, Yale, Princeton, …). And that’s just the USA – then add in the UK, Germany, France, Japan, China, Canada, Australia, etc., etc.
        We should, of course, be encouraging high standards of our own universities, but I have no feel for the context of these ratings.
        
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        October 2, 2018 10:18am
      - Jack5
        
        I posted this link in the General Debate thread late last night on the Massey culture war, but repeat it as it’s relevant here:
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/107502374/don-brash-raises-concerns-about-massey-universitys-treaty-plans
        
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        October 2, 2018 10:29am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @SGA
        
        The way THS ranks Universities is provided on their website.
        It’s been operating its ranking system (worldwide) since 2004.
        https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/about-the-times-higher-education-world-university-rankings
        
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        October 2, 2018 10:53am
      - Scott
        
        Thanks Jack 5. It seems the social justice cultural warrior stance is further entrenched than previously thought. It means special treatment for Maori culture and Maori people and a general lowering of standards if more Maori don’t make the cut. It undermines academic excellence and the concept of merit which needs to be at the heart of everything the university does.
        
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        October 2, 2018 11:43am
      - wiseowl
        
        Jacks link to the story about the maorification of Massey ,is the most disturbing thing I have read for a while although the whole debacle is disturbing.
        A university in this country should have NO domination by any culture in any circumstance.
        Maori had no education facilities or universities and have absolutely no place trying to dictate what the Uni does or doesn’t teach.
        The Government should be stepping in and stopping this rot but I fear it is too late.
        It is so serious and yet the takeover grows like a cancer and is going to destroy this country slowly from the inside.
        
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        October 2, 2018 3:07pm
- dave_c_
  
  Sounds to me like this has been a bloodless, illegal and cynical takeover of the university, to progress racist agenda/s
  
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  October 2, 2018 6:10pm
MT_Tinman

The Dutch have just placed a blanket ban on a type of electric vehicle: The Stint.

Apparently one got taken out by a train recently.

The Dutch say the vehicles cannot be relied upon to brake nor to keep going.

The technology required for these vehicles is obviously not yet up to a standard where they can be considered safe yet a certain government I know have stated that they want all transport to be of this type in the very near future.

Obviously that government cares more about virtue signalling than they do about people’s safety.
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October 2, 2018 8:11am
- waikatogirl
  
  Last night in response to petrol pump rises TVNZ did a promotion (news?) piece on purchasing electric vehicles over combustion engines. However, there was not even a comparison between electric and petrol car prices, nor any information on the future replacement cost of batteries. Just a promise for many more charging stations. Tell that to the country people deep in the regions.
  
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  October 2, 2018 8:25am
  - oldgolfer
    
    TV1.
    News for the infants by the infants.
    Sorry, did I say news?
    
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    October 2, 2018 8:31am
  - DigNap15
    
    If you can afford to buy an electric car,then you have enough money to petrol for your current vehicle!
    
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    October 2, 2018 8:34am
    - dave_c_
      
      Absolutely agree Dignap – It’s the typical marketing strategy of those introducing new technologies – Tell people what they “may save”, but only after 10-15 years, rather than what they can do with the money in the mean time. Hook, line, and sinker stuff.
      
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      October 2, 2018 9:04am
      - DigNap15
        
        Its the same when they tell poor people to save power by installing a heat pump.
        That is true, but poor people cannot afford them, nor can they afford double glazing or insulation.
        
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        October 2, 2018 9:12am
      - MCos
        
        Heatpumps are not a huge expense, nor is insulation except in the walls , of course.
        The cost of Double glazing is prohibitive unless it’s in combination with major alterations.
        
        A couple of years ago I was involved with just such alterations to my daughters house. When we removed the old gib we found there wasn’t even building paper under the weatherboards. No wonder the place had been cold, draughty & damp.
        
        NZs older timber frame housing, her house was built in the fifties, could be a serious health risks to poorer people.
        
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        October 2, 2018 9:37am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Yes, pure virtue signalling by well paid journalists. Tell your fellow Auckland cleaners and factory workers in South Auckland they should be laying out big $$ for cheap running electric vehicles. Doh!
      
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      October 2, 2018 9:10am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        South Auckland electric vehicles are called trolley buses
        
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        October 2, 2018 10:05am
      - Jack5
        
        No mention of the big slice of NZ’s petrol price that is taxes to pay for national roads, and now, for Auckland streets.
        
        Electric vehicles won’t be so economical when some sort of roading and ACC taxes are imposed on them.
        
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        October 2, 2018 10:31am
  - VicParking
    
    Your just upset because it looks like your Horse and Trap, which I hear is the vehicle of choice in the Waikato, is on the way out.
    Mind you the council has just promoted a new line of Fred Flintstone cars for Whanganui.
    
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    October 2, 2018 8:36am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Leave my cart horse out of this. She is at least reliable unlike your leg operated Flinstone car on your return from the pub! ?
      
      Was in Wanganui a weekend or 2 ago. Beautiful weather and the white tulips up the main street were gorgeous. Splendid place except the Thai restaurant didn’t have any chilli in its food!
      
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      October 2, 2018 9:16am
      - VicParking
        
        “Thai Chili’s or Birds eye chilis, are not a native of Thailand, they actually originated from the west indies in the Caribbean”. Here in Whanganui our restaurants a genuine unlike Cowsville.
        
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        October 2, 2018 10:53am
      - waikatogirl
        
        At least our Thai restaurants in the Waikato know chilli is a definite component of authentic Thai food. You isolated country folk need to work on your taste palate. Crikey, even Palmerston North Thai restaurants can get it right. ?
        
        “Thai Chili’s or Birds eye chilis, are not a native of Thailand, they actually originated from the west indies in the Caribbean”.
        If not eating introduced foods was the criteria for what we ate NZ’ers would have eaten all the kiwi and fern fronds by now.
        
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        October 2, 2018 11:40am
  - KevOB
    
    Battery life 7yrs.
    Replacement approx $10K NZD.
    
    May all be history in 10 years if LENR becomes a reality. Airbus have taken out patents on its use for aircraft. Commercial trials are underway.
    
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    October 2, 2018 8:48am
    - Paulus
      
      You did not mention that there is a real cost of the removal of the old batteries by the garages.
      Some Government ruling of removal ,for some years, of all old vehicle batteries.
      
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      October 2, 2018 8:56am
      - dave_c_
        
        AND – there is absolutely no indicators of how greedy governments will tax the use of such vehicles. I predict, that somehow, over time, they will make energy efficient technology owners pay as much (by way of taxation, levies etc) as they currently do.
        
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        October 2, 2018 9:08am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        And so they bloody well should! Fucking parasites!
        
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        October 2, 2018 10:07am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      LENR may be real, but is not yet replicatable, and if you are still holding onto hope that Rossi is not a shyster then you are hopelessly naive. To talk of commercialisation when there is no widespread replication is laughable.
      
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      October 2, 2018 11:26am
      - KevOB
        
        There are now several other competitors to Rossi offering commercial trials. The Navy and aircraft industry are also watching. Airbus has acquired patents.
        The science is becoming unteased. Universities world wide are investigating the phenomenon. It’s fascinating. It appears that subatomic particles can change states when interacting with each other with energy being released but not the usual gamma rays. Isotopic changes have been proven– a new field of science has been opened up.
        
        Rossi may yet have the last laugh. The trash to ethanol plant in Edmonton is founded on Rossi’s patent. Others have adopted his work too. NZ could do with that.
        
        Next year may be historical if commercial trials prove successful.
        
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        October 2, 2018 1:09pm
  - simpleton1
    
    I did like the signage, needs more of those signs and should be taught in the road code. 🙂
    
    Horses are sustainable, just breed another and replace.
    None of putting in a new motor, or another set of batteries.
    A bit of down time for breeding and problem solved, and easily done down in the Waikato.
    https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=horse+and+buggy+signs&safe=off&rlz=1C1GGRV_enNZ751NZ751&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjXmvDegebdAhWJdd4KHYIhDnkQ_AUIDigB&biw=1097&bih=536
    
    The pace of life, well there are many pacers being breed. 🙂
    
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    October 2, 2018 8:52am
    - SGA
      
      Not sure this a good time to be having faith in the horse breeding industry… 🙂
      
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      October 2, 2018 9:56am
  - igm
    
    wk: Electric car would be ideal to pull a double float with some gear . . . what a bloody rort.
    
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    October 2, 2018 8:55am
  - JIV
    
    The problem is the hilly terrain. If you look through the suburbs, every car parked on the road outside the property cannot be an electric vehicle. The owner needs a garage to charge which is powered. That puts paid to most houses in Wellington.
    Also those who are renting cannot rely on the landlord to provide a garage with charging. So thats another third of the population that the Tesla is unsuitable for.
    
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    October 2, 2018 9:15am
    - dave_c_
      
      Don;t worry, A JA led COL will make it a mandatory requirement to provide charging facilities at all rentals !
      
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      October 2, 2018 9:27am
    - SGA
      
      The owner needs a garage to charge which is powered.
      
      Interesting point. My guess is that someone will develop a charging “pole” (imagine something looking like an parking meter) that could be fitted in a driveway or carport. However, I’m not sure how that helps people with no off-street parking.
      
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      October 2, 2018 9:54am
      - Komata
        
        SGA
        
        Have a look at your local Warehouse. If there isn’t already a ‘Charging Station’ installed, one is certainly going to appear soon. The company seems to have gone all ‘gween’ and are installing ‘Charging Stations’ for their customer’s electric cars. That they are loosing custom by depriving ‘normal’ vehicles of one, perhaps two, parking spaces, doesn’t seem to bother them.
        
        Image is all important…
        
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        October 2, 2018 11:35am
      - SGA
        
        Image is all important…
        
        I wonder if it is just image. Charging takes some time, and the closest thing to do is … ? It might be a pragmatic decision.
        If you’ve got a big enough car park that’s rarely full, why not.
        
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        October 2, 2018 11:43am
    - Piniwi
      
      But JIV with the COL cutting back on using funding gathered for roading being wasted on non roading there will be only short trips for vehicles that can only do short trips. Tourists who double their money when they arrive because of devalued NZ$ might be the only travelers on the Roads of National Significance while being easy targets for roving gangs. A new regional tax free growth industry.
      
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      October 2, 2018 5:47pm
  - cmm
    
    The only thing that matters is the smugs.
    
    You can feel smug as hell in an a virtue signalling EV.
    
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    October 2, 2018 9:22am
  - Harkman
    
    I saw that WG, and as you could expect I was swearing at my TV. It took them 2-3 minutes to ask an expert, who took three seconds to point out the “range” isn’t there yet. I wonder who pushed One News to do this piece. Now that would be an interesting story.
    
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    October 2, 2018 9:35am
    - geoff3012
      
      I am yelling and screaming more and more at the bloody TV. Apparantly they can’t hear me….well according to my wife anyway.
      
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      October 2, 2018 10:05am
      - Piniwi
        
        Perhaps geoff3012 but you do realise that one of those pixels that produce a picture for you also takes pictures of you?
        
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        October 2, 2018 5:51pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Yep, it didn’t take TV 1 long to cut off the expert.
      
      And no mention of how much the EV costs are going to be when the RUC go on… looks like there is a 3-year window when RUC don’t apply.
      
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      October 2, 2018 10:56am
  - Niz
    
    They also failed to mention how many times you’d need to stop and wait for the Leaf to recharge on the 500km journey.
    
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    October 2, 2018 6:34pm
- riffer
  
  Hang on. The Stint isn’t a car. It’s like a modified golf cart, and can’t be registered as a car. Thing looks like a Segway with a dirty great basket at the front. You’re talking about a totally different thing.
  
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  October 2, 2018 3:20pm
secondcumming

One of the guys at the gun club was telling us his new partner has a ‘Sea-Shell’ tattooed on the inside of her thigh.

He reckons when you put your ear on it you can smell the ocean.
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October 2, 2018 8:14am
- Dafixeruppa
  
  Hmmm something smells a little fishy to me
  
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  October 2, 2018 8:20am
- MCos
  
  So that’s what you paid all that money to fill the tank for.
  
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  October 2, 2018 9:05am
oldpark

Seems the massive Two Billion Dollars gouged off fixed income promised entitlements by Peters and his gang of no hopers and paid out on July 1 this year to Beneficiares is not enough for the Far Left Lunatic Green Party full of Misandrists.
Sounds like no support by them for Teachers and Police increased wage endeavours, an insulting 3%.Message by sick fughs in Lunatic Greens is more help and support for Beneficiares they want them to get 20% on top of their huge benefit payments which were increased on July 1 2018.
Remember mad dog Lunatic Greens are in bed with Peters Party. After all whether he denies that. Just check out who voted for Peters anti Democratic Waka jumping Bill. All united in the mad dog rush to turn NZ into the Venezuela of the South Pacific. Some say we are at least halfway there already.
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October 2, 2018 8:17am
Left Right and Centre

Bad joke of the day not called Jacinda . . .

Angry person with no bread ?
Lack toast intolerant. Thanks youtube – love you.
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October 2, 2018 8:19am
- krazykiwi
  
  Lols. I had a chuckle at the Shack of Sit furniture showroom recently 🙂
  
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  October 2, 2018 8:29am
  - dave_c_
    
    I have it that the COL are considering changing their collective name to this !
    
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    October 2, 2018 8:37am
oldgolfer

We said it would happen. Check the lead at NZ Herald: Landlords bailing out.
Jeez, Phil, you are going to be even busier.
You might have to grab an Estwing and start yourself.
Muppet.
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October 2, 2018 8:20am
cmm

Stuff with more MegaThrust earthquake porn:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/science/107498184/megathrust-stress-bent-central-new-zealand-like-a-piece-of-elastic-before-kaikura-quake

These normally get fired off to draw eyes away form the PriNZess and her muppets.

Ok, what has happened now?
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October 2, 2018 8:24am
- Viking2
  
  Very interesting and makes a lot of sense to me.
  
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  October 2, 2018 8:52am
- Inandout
  
  cmm: Wait until Friday for another CoL fuckup, more certain to happen than earthquakes.
  
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  October 2, 2018 10:53am
  - cmm
    
    Yup, don’t need Ken Ring to predict there’s another ClusterCOL coming.
    
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    October 2, 2018 1:35pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  The 2016 Kaikoura Earthquake seems to have shaken up the consensus view of how an earthquake is always associated with one fault.
  
  Lamb expected the paper, published on Tuesday in Nature Geoscience, to be widely discussed. “It’s quite a new idea. We encountered, as you do in science, lots of counter arguments from reviewers, but we finally convinced people of our ideas.
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/science/107498184/megathrust-stress-bent-central-new-zealand-like-a-piece-of-elastic-before-kaikura-quake
  
  Abstract of paper
  https://www.nature.com/articles/s41561-018-0230-5
  
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  October 2, 2018 11:37am
RW Capitalist

Can’t seem to find a reference.
BUT
Wasm’t there a big to do, the last time we spent money upgrading Vogel House?
Or is it only not OK if JK did it?
Don’t get me wrong, it is an asset of the people and should be kept up.
It’s just Labour’s attitude to it.
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October 2, 2018 8:30am
- MCos
  
  Wrong place
  
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  October 2, 2018 9:09am
- MCos
  
  Premier House in Thorndon is where the PM lives when she’s in Wellington. It was upgraded about twenty years ago in the ninties, but Internal Affairs reckon more maintenance work is needed.
  Probably about three quarters of the money will go on administration.
  
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  October 2, 2018 9:19am
  - dave_c_
    
    and overpriced contractors making the improvements.
    
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    October 2, 2018 9:29am
    - backster
      
      providing they make a donation to Labour.
      
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      October 2, 2018 10:53am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Nursery hand painted silk wall paper, the Princess will install a low toilet for bubs herself . . . . .
    
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    October 2, 2018 10:12am
  - KevOB
    
    It’s a overly large, old rickety wooden building. It is big enough to have spent some years as a school dental clinic.The PM wouldn’t need 1/10 of it for occupation but there are other large rooms for state purposes.
    A $1m may well be needed to deal with the potential massive joinery work involved. Borer could be holding hands.
    
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    October 2, 2018 1:19pm
    - simpleton1
      
      So plenty of room for some desperate homeless and refugees.
      Come on Jacinda, you have plenty of room and that million dollar do up, would be put to good global use! 🙂
      
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      October 2, 2018 1:30pm
RW Capitalist

I’m so mad, I’m re posting this…sorry won’t do it again.
Last month, I asked Chris Bishop to look into why my wife’s diabetes podiatry care visits had been halved. This is my response to his reply.
and the reply he got from the DHB>
Thank you Dawn,
So what they are saying.
That, without a medical reassessment, my wife’s podiatry appointments have been HALVED ie cut.
By this letter, we are being told to, basically, shut up, because everyone else is in the same boat.
ie they don’t have enough MONEY to run the service.
Is this true of other ancillary services?
Thank you for all you have done.
Hopefully Chris can somehow hold them to account for this.
I find it hypocritical of this govt. to talk about “caring” when they are cutting HEALTH services, due to a lack of funds and not clinical need.
Again thank you, for all your work.
Please take it that as soon as there is an election, this collection of incompetent circus clowns, masquerading as a government, will NOT get my vote.

Yours Sincerely
me
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October 2, 2018 8:37am
- dave_c_
  
  Alas, the term ‘caring’, in their estimation is to ‘increase the handouts, and somehow hope that that fixes their every ailment’.
  
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  October 2, 2018 8:55am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Hand out of our cash
    Not
    Provide actual services.
    
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    October 2, 2018 9:05am
DigNap15

Todays Maori vocab lesson comes from an article on Shane Jones in the MSM.
They said he used
Polysyllabic
language.
I know what that means, but sadly its not in my Maori dictionaries.
And he is a Maori!
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October 2, 2018 8:40am
- VicParking
  
  he maha nga kupu.
  Yes no word but maori is such a simple language
  
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  October 2, 2018 11:01am
flipper

This Government (Regime, really) will not require a 1000 cuts.
in fact as soon as some of their media-vaunted policies come into play, the number required will reduce daily.
Even committed L-P-G idiots are coming to the realisation, albeit painfully, that Ardern could not manage a chip shop let alone a Nati0n.
All thr media bullshit on electric cars will count for nothing. Those gouging fuel tax impositions will kill them since they are the most regresssive and have immediate effect.
Good night nurse!
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October 2, 2018 8:51am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  flipper, (Regime, really)??? In what way can it be compared to the Dictatorship of the Proletariat as for example in North Korea?
  
  What BS on electric cars? Why the irrational fear and hysteria about the same?
  
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  October 2, 2018 8:58am
  - starboard
    
    “FAP FAP FAP FAPPPPPP FARRRTTT FAP”….
    
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    October 2, 2018 12:45pm
stephieboy

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Lets get a better understanding as to why petrol prices at the pump are higher ( other than regional and central; government taxes )

Oil prices hit 2014 highs on Iran sanctions and NAFTA deal

* Brent crude trades above $84 a barrel ahead of a November deadline for oil buyers to comply with U.S. sanctions on Iran.
* Investors and analysts are beginning to anticipate the possibility that Brent will hit $100 a barrel.
* Higher oil prices, a strong dollar and trade disputes threaten global crude demand.
*
Published 17 Hours Ago Updated 2 Hours Ago
Reuters

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/01/oil-markets-brent-crude-futures-us-sanctions-on-iran-trade-in-focus.html
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October 2, 2018 8:54am
- igm
  
  Dickhead: Our dollar is far too low.
  
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  October 2, 2018 8:58am
  - Poppa
    
    The way the US economy is going our dollar will likely drop more
    
    Oil going up & dollar going down & increased tax = hello $3.00 per L
    
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    October 2, 2018 9:06am
    - stephieboy
      
      Lots of other factors impact on the price of oil independently as to what happens here as the Brent demonstrates!
      
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      October 2, 2018 9:12am
    - Inandout
      
      Oh Poppa, think about the homeless, after you think about her baaabbbyy.
      
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      October 2, 2018 10:51am
  - Philview
    
    The dollar went south the day after the Oil and Gas announcement in April.
    
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    October 2, 2018 10:28am
    - Jack5
      
      The kiwi dollar’s been held up by hot air for years.
      
      It’s 40 or more years since NZ had a positive balance of payments balance.
      
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      October 2, 2018 10:35am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Cindy lives by the virtue signal, and hopefully dies by the virtue signal in 2020.
      
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      October 2, 2018 11:21am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      It slid the very day winnie proclaimed JA PM
      
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      October 2, 2018 4:09pm
- Nigel Kearney
  
  Talking about the cost of petrol “other than regional and central government taxes” is like asking Mrs Lincoln whether the play was any good.
  
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  October 2, 2018 10:16am
Rich Prick

… whatever.
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October 2, 2018 9:00am
- stephieboy
  
  Rich Prick, the stats overwhelm you?
  
  At 18 Donald John Trump; is sitting pretty!
  
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  October 2, 2018 9:03am
- Morrissey
  
  You’re No. 41, Rich Dick.
  
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  October 2, 2018 9:05am
Paulus

And 98 oct is about 16c higher than 91 oct everywhere but the garages do not show it in their advertising..
So why buy a modern small economic car.
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October 2, 2018 9:01am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  “So why buy a modern small economic car.”
  
  Because there are plenty of these available that run on 91.
  Just stay away from European.
  
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  October 2, 2018 9:11am
  - stephieboy
    
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    And consider, of course, a Prius or other hybrid. Not forgetting Nissan Leaf, Telsa etc
    
    https://info.japanesecartrade.com/content-item/155-popular-japanese-models-of-electric-cars
    
    Besides 98 only means an extra few dollars for a full tank.
    
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    October 2, 2018 9:14am
    - dime
      
      “Besides 98 only means an extra few dollars for a full tank.”
      
      yeah, whats a few extra dollars if you’re struggling like hell and cant afford a hybrid.
      
      the “caring left” in action.
      
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      October 2, 2018 9:33am
      - Jack5
        
        New Prius C is not too badly priced, but it’s small.
        
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        October 2, 2018 10:36am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Captain, Do all European vehicles NEED 98?
    
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    October 2, 2018 9:32am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Not sure, but most of them need at least 95. Even the ones with a Ford or Holden badge.
      
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      October 2, 2018 10:07am
      - RalphT
        
        My 1.2 litre job takes 95. And while it costs me an extra $5-6 for a tank full, I get about 20% better mileage than my Japanese car that takes 91.
        
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        October 2, 2018 10:41am
      - Elaycee
        
        FWIW: In our garage there’s a 2017 Holden with a sticker inside the fuel flap saying it’s tuned to run on E85 in Australia (Holden NZ confirmed it’s fine to run on 91 here).
        
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        October 2, 2018 11:15am
    - Ed Snack
      
      Actually I believe that most can manage with 95 but 98 is recommended. If you have the car “chipped” they often include alternative profiles for the different octane ratings.
      
      Turbo cars have the most issues but some modern direct injection engines run at pretty high compression ratios (my VW is at 11.5:1 for example) and that can lead to pre-detonation if the octane rating is too low.
      
      I use 98 but I’ve run both on 95 without issues. There are quite a few places in NZ without much access to 98. Example Wanaka, nearest 98 is Cromwell or Queenstown, so 95 it is if you’re visiting Treble Cone with your Quattro Audi.
      
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      October 2, 2018 11:21am
  - Paulus
    
    Capt
    I buy real Quality !
    
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    October 2, 2018 1:34pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  If you want economy and low maintenance costs buy japanese cars that use small petrol turbo charged (various) or Atkinson cycle (mostly toyota). We only use high power about 0.1% of the time when driving so best to use a small engine optimised for efficient 10-25kW cruise power that can get high power via turbocharger when required. Stay away from expensive to buy and maintain European cars, and don’t buy anything that needs 95 or 98, the premium you pay isn’t worth it in improved economy.
  
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  October 2, 2018 10:22am
stephieboy

“..the possibility that Brent will hit $100 a barrel” has nothing to do with the value of our dollar !
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October 2, 2018 9:01am
- Harkman
  
  No but if it hits $100 it will be bloody expensive in NZ pesos.
  
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  October 2, 2018 9:40am
EAD_TWO

20 downticks – the Jewish Troll Army must be going into full damage control mode now as they lash out at any and everyone who points out what is hidden in plain sight. Even the Presidents son is not immune:

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/eric-trump-accused-of-anti-semitism-for-saying-bob-woodward-earned-three-extra-shekels-on-cnn-1.6468707

Eric Trump Accused of anti-Semitism for Saying Woodward Earned ‘Three Extra Shekels’ on CNN
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October 2, 2018 9:01am
- stephieboy
  
  EAD TWO, I thought you might like this,
  
  Psalms 104 sung in ancient Hebrew | ברכי נפשי את ה’ – תהלים ק”ד
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  Psalm 104
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  Praise the Lord, my soul.
  Lord my God, you are very great;
      you are clothed with splendor and majesty.
  2
  The Lord wraps himself in light as with a garment;
      he stretches out the heavens like a tent
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      and lays the beams of his upper chambers on their waters.
  He makes the clouds his chariot
      and rides on the wings of the wind.
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  He makes winds his messengers,[a]
      flames of fire his servants.
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  He set the earth on its foundations;
      it can never be moved.
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  You covered it with the watery depths as with a garment;
      the waters stood above the mountains.
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  But at your rebuke the waters fled,
      at the sound of your thunder they took to flight;
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  they flowed over the mountains,
      they went down into the valleys,
      to the place, you assigned for them……
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=–UABwqW9Sg
  
  Hardly the work of an insidious and nefarious conspiracy?
  
  Yes ?
  
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  October 2, 2018 9:06am
Morrissey

Gaza: An Inquest into its Martyrdom by Norman Finkelstein
(University of California Press, 2018)

Review by NOAM CHOMSKY.

To plumb the depths of human savagery is a formidable task, and not a pleasant one. The task is undertaken with rigorous argument and scrupulous scholarship in Norman Finkelstein’s monumental “inquest into Gaza’s martyrdom.” And with undisguised passion. As he writes, “this book rises to a crescendo of anger and indignation.” It is hard to see how anyone with a shred of humanity could react differently to the bitter record unraveled here.

There have been evocative, often shattering, accounts of the tragedy of Gaza. Some of the most infuriating are live testimony from the scene during the periodic escalations of the crimes: among them the reports by the remarkable Norwegian surgeon Mads Gilbert from the trauma wards of al-Shifa hospital and the painful daily reports by the courageous Palestinian journalist Mohammed Omer. There have also been studies by prestigious commissions of inquiry and by the major international human-rights groups, all mined in Finkelstein’s inquest. Understanding has also been enriched by work of fine journalists and scholars. But in its comprehensive sweep, deep probing and acute critical analysis, Finkelstein’s study stands alone.

Concluding his inquest, Finkelstein cites warnings by UNCTAD and other international monitors that Gaza could become literally uninhabitable by 2020 “due to ongoing de-development, eight years of economic blockade and three operations” from 2009 to 2014. The grim figures on the availability of potable water, energy and housing, on unemployment and dependence on humanitarian aid even for food, depict all too clearly the nature of the catastrophe as 2020 approaches.

Responding to the imminent catastrophe, President Trump ordered that the U.S. contribution to UNRWA — “a lifeline for Palestinians” — be cut to one-sixth the scheduled funding. As he explained, he saw no reason to fund people who show “no appreciation or respect” as he dangles before their eyes his “ultimate deal” while handing Greater Jerusalem over to Israel.

The idea that nearly two million people, median age 17, are locked by force in a small cage that is soon to become uninhabitable while the world looks away is almost unfathomable. True, there is sometimes a reaction of disgust; in one recent case, on May 14, 2018, when, on the eve of Nakba Day, split-scene photographs appeared showing Israeli snipers expertly murdering desperate Gazans protesting their martyrdom, alongside images of Ivanka Trump smiling happily with a beaming Netanyahu at the celebration of the opening of the U.S. embassy in Jerusalem. But such moments are rare.

Visiting Gazan health centers after the Israeli atrocities of spring 2018, UNRWA Commissioner-General Pierre Krähenbühl found scenes that were “shocking and deeply disturbing,” including “a pattern of entry and exit wounds that indicates ammunition used caused severe damage to internal organs, muscle tissue and bones.” One hundred seventeen were killed by Israel forces during peaceful protests and 1,200 injured, many at a distance from the troops and posing no imaginable threat — even a young woman bravely tending to the injured. What he found is “truly staggering,” Krähenbühl reported.

Read more….
http://normanfinkelstein.com/2018/09/30/noam-chomsky-on-finkelsteins-gaza-book/
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October 2, 2018 9:03am
- Morrissey
  
  To the six people (so far) who have downticked this piece by Noam Chomsky: don’t downtick, READ. You will learn something.
  
  Ignorance is a choice you do not have to make.
  
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  October 2, 2018 9:18am
  - sooty
    
    If you stick it up, it ain’t worth reading! just like stephie and hughie. Down tick on the way thru.
    
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    October 2, 2018 9:41am
    - Morrissey
      
      It’s not me, you ignoramus, it’s Noam Chomsky, the world’s most respected thinker.
      
      Carry on in your willful ignorance. Perhaps you could give Leighton a call? (He’s about your level.)
      
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      October 2, 2018 10:33am
      - Jack5
        
        Morrissey, you can be amusing, but to describe Chomsky as “the world’s most respected thinker” makes you the centre of the joke.
        
        Chomsky’s development of grammatical theory was financed by the United States military, who were seeking immediate universal language translation. What a hypocrite Chomsky was to become an international peace activist.
        
        Chomsky’s linguistics theory centres on a language acquisition device or LAD, a hypothetical tool hardwired into the brain that helps children rapidly learn and understand language.
        
        This concept is still very controversial.
        
        Chomsky, the world’s most respected thinker? Morrissey Breen, your brain is being fried by listening to too many radio stations at once.
        
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        October 2, 2018 5:13pm
      - Morrissey
        
        The internet was also developed by the military. Is Chomsky a hypocrite for using the internet, too?
        
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        October 2, 2018 6:39pm
BeaB

Jacinda tells us other PMs paid for photographers to accompany them on overseas trips. Who? When? What did it cost? Did the photographer make a large donation to their political party?
Perhaps one of our intrepid reporters could do a bit of digging. Ha ha.
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October 2, 2018 9:10am
- sooty
  
  With our media, you got to be kidding!
  
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  October 2, 2018 9:46am
- Harkman
  
  Well third world dictators do the same.
  
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  October 2, 2018 10:21am
EAD_TWO

The Jewish owned and edited New York Times does not hold back with its agenda:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/15/opinion/trump-wants-to-make-america-white-again.html

The White House is assertively working to make America white again, and Democrats are too afraid to speak that truth. The aggressive pace of deportations of immigrants of color, the elimination of the DACA program protecting immigrant children and the proposals propounded by the anti-immigration voices in the administration will all have the undeniable effect of slowing the rapid racial diversification of the United States population. Despite this sweeping attempt at racial social engineering, few voices in progressive and Democratic circles are responding with the kinds of outrage that one would expect.

Want to see what gaslighting is? Just read that bit in bold again.
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October 2, 2018 9:11am
- Morrissey
  
  What’s this got to do with it being “Jewish owned and edited”?
  
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  October 2, 2018 9:14am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    I see that Morris Oxford’s two earlier posts have disappeared, thanks to the six reports rule.
    Is this an indication of his popularity here?
    
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    October 2, 2018 10:10am
    - rightoverlabour
      
      Morrisey should be permantly banned for his defamation of John Key and Prince Harry. I am all for free speech but accusing them daily of sexual misconduct has to have consequences. As someone posted yesterday hopefully one on his list sues him. Stupid fucking moronic wanker.
      
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      October 2, 2018 10:35am
      - Morrissey
        
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        I am all for free speech…
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blpe_sGnnP4
        
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        October 2, 2018 10:41am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        Defamation isn’t free speech. I can’t see what Morry wrote, but accusing Key and Prince Harry of sexual misconduct without any proof would be defamation.
        
        If you mean pulling a ponytail while having breakfast with his wife: it was certainly annoying and wrong, but hardly ‘sexual’.
        
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        October 2, 2018 11:15am
      - Jack5
        
        For EADolf’s edification:
        
        https://youtu.be/TrRAWz1WcFs
        
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        October 2, 2018 10:01pm
    - Morrissey
      
      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
      It’s an indication of the intolerance of the extreme right. My posts, in contrast to a great many of those that escape censure here, are not defamatory or obscene or abusive. Mr Farrar’s much vaunted commitment to free speech is rendered worthless by his handing such a tool as “six complaints” to the intolerant and the bigoted.
      
      It also makes a mockery of Kiwiblog’s pretentions to be a place of open and robust discussion.
      
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      October 2, 2018 10:35am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        There is a difference between open and robust discussion and blatant fuckwittery.
        
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        October 2, 2018 10:42am
      - Inandout
        
        You are all for Feel Speech that’s for sure.
        
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        October 2, 2018 10:46am
      - Morrissey
        
        INANDOUT: You are all for Feel Speech that’s for sure.
        
        BREEN: “Feel speech”. Good one! (I think…)
        
        CAP’N MAINWARING: [darkly, through gritted teeth] blatant fuckwittery.
        
        BREEN: You’re funny when you’re really angry, Cap’n! Love it!
        
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        October 2, 2018 10:49am
      - rightoverlabour
        
        Look up defamatory. I don’t care if you call them cunts, but to have them included in a group of convicted sexual criminals is defamatory. So feel free to defame the on your blog (that has 0 followers – I checked) but not here. Now fuck off quickly and stick your head up some hamas terrorists arse.
        
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        October 2, 2018 12:42pm
      - Swifty
        
        Hey, aren’t you that sleazy fucker that keeps suggesting that certain female KB posters to come around to your house?
        
        You should be on your own sleazebag list Morrissey Breen.
        
        Sad little man.
        
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        October 2, 2018 1:22pm
      - KevOB
        
        There are limits, which you don’t seem to have learnt. Disagreement is OK: verbal disembowment is not. Who gains from being unpleasant?
        
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        October 2, 2018 1:32pm
- SerfsUp
  
  https://www.thenewneo.com/2018/10/01/the-left-and-the-double-bind-setting-a-new-standard-for-chutzpah/
  
  Just enjoy the Chutzpah.
  
  https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/10/kavanaughs-partisanship-threatens-supreme-court/571702/
  
  Ronald Brownstein – that Chutzpah is crispy fresh. Kavanaugh is a sex-offender, kill all the white people.
  
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  October 2, 2018 10:51am
- stephieboy
  
  EAD TWO let’s sort out the Jews amongst this lot?
  
  10 Most Influential Media Moguls in History
  
  http://www.businesspundit.com/10-most-influential-media-moguls-in-history/
  
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  October 2, 2018 1:26pm
- SerfsUp
  
  https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2018/10/01/georgetown-professor-n2524450%3Famp%3Dtrue
  
  Georgetown professor says all the white GOP male Senators should be slaughtered and thrown to pigs.
  
  She’s Council on Foreign Relations and American Research Institute. Not looking good. It will be interesting when she’s eventually removed from the jurisdiction. Along with a while coterie of her friends in academia. Remember all the GOP who have been shot, like Scalise? If one gets shot and fed to pigs she should face extra judicial consequences. They have no shame
  They will never stop until stopped.
  
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  October 2, 2018 5:50pm
cmm

Is this Perpetual Guardian four day work week stuff just a huge ploy to get free advertising?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/107525245/perpetual-guardian-makes-fourday-week-permanent

What I find laughable is that apparently the millenials (or whatever they are now) want better work-life balance (ie less work), but they also want more earning opportunities to buy all their cool stuff they “need”.

So which is it? You really can’t have both.
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October 2, 2018 9:27am
Scott

The trouble is EAD that when you hark on about a Jewish conspiracy, when all the Democrats whatever their race oppose Kavanaugh, then you sound like someone in 1930s Germany who made the trains run on time.
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October 2, 2018 9:38am
dime

Colour me shocked. That wimp Prime Minister in Canada has buckled and Trump gets his deal.
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October 2, 2018 9:39am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  I don’t know a lot about this sort of stuff but I think it is referred to as a ‘fisting’
  
  The headline would be ‘ Trump Tickles Trudeau’
  
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  October 2, 2018 10:15am
- Brigitte
  
  Not sure it’s quite the win you’re suggesting.
  
  After all, the deal will preserve the trade dispute settlement mechanism. In return Canada agreed to provide U.S. dairy farmers access to just 3.5% of its $16 billion domestic dairy market.
  
  So, I reckon it’s a give-and-take compromise type of deal as per normal.
  
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  October 2, 2018 10:16am
  - dime
    
    so if the US has agreed to preserve an existing condition… and now has access to a new market..
    
    wouldn’t that be that the US just won and gave fuck all?
    
    sure its win win from trumps initial demands, but that’s negotiation 101.
    
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    October 2, 2018 10:21am
    - Brigitte
      
      I’d leave a couple of words out and suggest that:
      
      wouldn’t that be that the US just won [and gave] fuck all?
      
      I think Canada will be quite happy to give up that little bit as it seems like they’ve done alright out of the car deal (at the expense of Mexico it seems) as well as kept intact pretty much all that they thought was important.
      
      And that small concession gives Trump the opportunity to claim a big win which greases the wheels of the negotiation to get it over the line.
      
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      October 2, 2018 10:30am
      - Ed Snack
        
        Look at the side letters to the agreement. There’s a ratchet m charisma on domestic content that means Canada has a fair bit to do fairly quickly to not get excluded in the near future.
        
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        October 2, 2018 11:26am
- Inandout
  
  Man v Boy, just had to happen.
  
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  October 2, 2018 10:45am
  - MCos
    
    Big country v small country, just had to happen.
    
    Happens to NZ at regular intervals.
    
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    October 2, 2018 3:47pm
- Ross12
  
  Trump has closed the loop hole that existed in the NAFTA agreement. That was his key objective from day one, so big win the team USA.
  https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/10/01/massive-win-nafta-loophole-closed-canada-and-mexico-agree-to-u-s-approval-authority-of-any-future-trade-agreements-with-third-parties/
  
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  October 2, 2018 10:44pm
Fletch

TV presenter, Geoffrey from Rainbow has died, aged 76.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/107525531/geoffrey-hayes-of-rainbow-friend-to-zippy-george-and-bungle-has-died
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October 2, 2018 10:06am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Rainbow for adults:
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgbcQIT7BMc
  
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  October 2, 2018 10:10am
DigNap15

Driving License Tests a Rort

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12135412

I have thought the tests are too hard for years. I know of two middle aged ladies who have tried for years to get their restricted licences, one has failed 4 times, one has failed 3 times. They are both very careful drivers.

No wonder kids of todays don’t bother getting licences.
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October 2, 2018 10:28am
- Morrissey
  
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  Did somebody say “rort”?!!??!?
  
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/2910957/Bill-English-buckles-over-housing-allowance
  
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  October 2, 2018 10:54am
Poppa

So another bad result in the quarterly IER business survey with a prediction of 2% growth

How does that sound sweet cheeks? Not good is it?

So will you resort to your old friend “borrow & spend”?
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October 2, 2018 10:32am
SerfsUp

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/09/nobel-prize-committee-calls-on-nominators-to-give-up-on-merits-and-consider-diversity-in-gender-geography/

This is Marama Davidson’s time. She should enter for the Nobel Prize. It’s the diversity prize now.
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October 2, 2018 10:44am
Biscuit

The winner of the 2018 Nobel Peace Prize is to be announced on Saturday (NZ Time).

I see that Alfred Nobel’s will, setting up the Nobel Prizes, stipulates that the Peace Prize should go to ‘the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.”

I hope Baby Neve has a visa for when she, Jass and Clarkie fly over to Europe for her Mum’s unanimous late nomination…
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October 2, 2018 10:47am
- Brigitte
  
  If not JA then a joint award would be my pick. Not sure whether that should be Assad & Rouhani or perhaps Trump & Putin. Either would set blogs and media alight.
  
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  October 2, 2018 10:52am
  - Biscuit
    
    Brigitte, apparently the ‘favourites’ are the respective leaders of South Korea and North Korea.
    
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    October 2, 2018 10:56am
    - Brigitte
      
      Yes, I saw that. Most interesting, seems like the Committee went and looked up ‘peace’ in the dictionary and found it doesn’t mean ‘virtue signalling’.
      
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      October 2, 2018 11:02am
      - rangitoto
        
        Trump would be a worthy recipient.
        
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        October 2, 2018 11:06am
      - Biscuit
        
        Recent winners of the Award have been real luminaries.
        Not.
        2000: Kim Dae-jung
        2001: United Nations and Kofi Annan
        2002: Jimmy Carter
        2003: Shirin Ebadi
        2004: Wangari Muta Maathai
        2005: International Atomic Energy Agency and Mohamed ElBaradei
        2006: Muhammad Yunus and Grameen Bank
        2007: Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and Al Gore
        2008: Martti Ahtisaari
        2009: Barack Obama
        2010: Liu Xiaobo
        2011: Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, Leymah Gbowee and Tawakkul Karman
        2012: European Union
        2013: Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons
        2014: Kailash Satyarthi and Malala Yousafzai
        2015: Tunisian National Dialogue Quartet
        2016: Juan Manuel Santos
        2017: International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons
        
        For me, the Award became completely devalued when Barack Obama, freshly elected, won the thing for … being freshly elected.
        And even more devalued after Aung San Suu Kyi, the 1991 winner, turned out to be (in power) no better than, and quite possibly worse, than the Burmese rulers she replaced.
        
        The most recent winner of any great merit (in my eyes) was Archbishop Desmond Tutu in 1984…
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_Peace_Prize_laureates
        
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        October 2, 2018 11:26am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Sadly, there have been dodgy goings-on with the Nobel Committee and its hangers-on for quite some years
        
        https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/oct/01/jean-claude-arnault-centre-nobel-scandal-jailed-rape
        
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        October 2, 2018 11:44am
      - stephieboy
        
        MW, dodgy goings on with the Nobel Committee?
        
        Climate Change?
        
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        October 2, 2018 1:28pm
  - Jules99
    
    My mother and many others have been convinced by the media that the outbreak of peace on the Korean peninsula was going to happen anyway and Trump had nothing to do with it. He just turned up for the photo shoot.
    
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    October 2, 2018 2:28pm
- RalphT
  
  No, no, not Jacinda. Surely Neve herself with her bringing together of first the nation and now the world with her performance at the UN deserves the accolade.
  
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  October 2, 2018 11:06am
Hugh Pavletich

Latest NZIER Quarterly Survey of Business Opinion shows worst level of business confidence since March 2009 | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/business/96128/latest-nzier-quarterly-survey-business-opinion-shows-worst-level-business-confidence

The Government’s been given yet another loud wake-up call from the business community, with the influential NZIER Quarterly Survey of Business Opinion showing another drop in business confidence.

This is the statement from NZIER:

The latest NZIER Quarterly Survey of Business Opinion (QSBO) shows a further deterioration in business confidence. A net 28 percent of businesses expect economic conditions to worsen – the lowest level since March 2009.

Firms’ own domestic trading activity is a better indicator of GDP growth than business confidence. Firms’ own activity for the September quarter and expectations for the next quarter both fell, indicating a slowing in economic growth over the second half of 2018. … read more via hyperlink above …
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… latest IPSOS New Zealand poll … lifting 50% Kiwis major concern excessive housing costs … 24% of Aussies … read on …

New Zealand Issues Monitor – Concerns about housing grow

https://www.ipsos.com/en-nz/new-zealand-issues-monitor-concerns-about-housing-grow

https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2018-09/2nd_ipsos_new_zealand_issues_monitor_released_september_2018.pdf

New Zealanders’ concerns about housing issues grow, while New Zealanders are also feeling more positive about the Labour-led government compared to last year when National was in power.

New Zealanders have nominated housing (50%) as the most important issue facing the nation in the latest Ipsos New Zealand Issues Monitor, released today ( 13 September ) . Poverty (32%), healthcare (31%), cost of living (26%) and crime (24%) rounded out the other top concerns.

The Ipsos New Zealand Issues Monitor regularly asks over 600 New Zealanders to select from a list of 20 issues the ones that they feel are the three most important issues facing the country.

While the top three issues in July 2018 are the same as those seen in February 2018, results have increased for all three, indicating increasing levels of concern. These were: housing (50%, up from 41%), poverty (32%, up from 29%) and healthcare (31%, up from 27%). … read more via hyperlink above …
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October 2, 2018 10:54am
VicParking

I hear that if you are a maori you going to get a finger/camera up your bum 10 years earlier (50 not 60) than europeans. This is because maori Life expectancy is less. What if you are 50% maori, will it be 55 or 25% 57.5 ???.
No as usual so long as you can name a tribe, hapu or whānau your in, no matter what your genetic disposition is.
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October 2, 2018 11:13am
- Inandout
  
  How times change. I once saw an old life insurance rate book that had ‘Maori’ as a separate calculation. They were considered a higher risk.
  
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  October 2, 2018 11:24am
- Classic Liberal
  
  Interesting logic by those wanting earlier bowel cancer tests for Maori (btw. just done with a sample, no colonoscopy unless cancer suspected). Bowel cancer tests are producing a far greater prevention statistic in non-Maori, but because Maori have a 7 year shorter life-span, it’s our duty to give them earlier bowel cancer tests.
  
  Yes, that’s their logic.
  
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  October 2, 2018 11:25am
- Jazzby
  
  This is an old chestnut: years ago, I argued with both my local DHB and the National Ethics Advisory Committee over preferential health care for Maori (they were being given free gym membership in order to improve cardio-respiratory fitness). The response was, “We get more bang for our buck this way!” (I kid you not).
  The supposed ethical argument for this discriminatory treatment is, presumably, a Utilitarian one: that the right moral action is that which creates the greatest happiness for the greatest number – crude, but sometimes effective.
  However, in the case of Maori, as there are no longer any pure-bred members of that group, Maori identity is nowadays a matter of choice: if one self-identifies as Maori, then that’s it, regardless of blood lineage. Now, no strategy can be ethically defended on the basis of self-selection, if that represents the pursuit of self-interest, at cost to others – as applies here. For every colonoscopy done on Maori in this selected group, a non-Maori has to go down the list, and could have to wait unacceptably long (the pressure on the service is, I gather, pretty extreme now).
  The only viable solution to the sort of dilemma raised by this example is to completely eliminate any social policy (including franchise) that is predicated on ethno-racial identity. Period.
  
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  October 2, 2018 1:56pm
Philview

I read on Whaleoil this morning that our trade deficit hit a record high in August.

https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/10/trade-deficit-hits-record-high/#more-411804
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October 2, 2018 11:16am
- Poppa
  
  Yes that was reported a few days ago. I think it is probably driven by fuel imports but haven’t seen all of the numbers.
  
  Possibly dairy export was a bit slow during that period also
  
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  October 2, 2018 11:22am
DigNap15

The sad thing with our trade defecit (ie exports versus imports) we always have one. We hardly ever have surpluses.
Then ontop of that we always have a negative balance in invisibles – bank profits and insurance etc etc.
So we keep having to borrow money.
This is not the government, but the private sector.

We need a pro business and a pro exports government
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October 2, 2018 11:28am
- srylands
  
  Lucky we have that high quality Taranaki oil that we export.
  
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  October 2, 2018 1:27pm
Rachael Membery

It is true that perception is everything and that what you see is not what you get. They were Kavanaugh supporters!!! The media didn’t do their research.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12135092
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October 2, 2018 12:36pm
- Jules99
  
  Yeah I studied perception of photos years ago in uni, and it’s very easy to take any photo and convince people it shows the opposite of what is true. People think they are seeing a photo so it must be real. Ditto video – as CNN has demonstrated, just crop before and after, add voice over and voila, you see the opposite of what happened.
  
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  October 2, 2018 2:33pm
DigNap15

Yes Business Confidence in the Quarterly Survey Down again (by a lot)
I hope someone in the media questions Ardern and Robertson on this!
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October 2, 2018 12:39pm
rightoverlabour

Are you just regular stupid or a special kind of labour fuckwitt moronic stupid?
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October 2, 2018 12:51pm
Pateke

You are a nasty piece of work MB. Your sick comments are most revealing. I would prefer you took your venom elsewhere—anywhere but here.
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October 2, 2018 12:54pm
- Muttonbird
  
  Very cynical timing too, right at the beginning of a parliamentary recess. I hope David Farrar references the timing when he eventually posts on this announcement.
  
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  October 2, 2018 1:03pm
- Inandout
  
  If only someone would sue the feathered one.
  
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  October 2, 2018 2:03pm
srylands

The guy could have brain cancer for all we know. Simon says it is unrelated to the leak. If he knew that to be false, it would make him look stupid when, inevitably, the truth came out.
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October 2, 2018 1:01pm
- Muttonbird
  
  Why not just say that then?
  
  As for the truth coming out. Won’t happen – it’s the National Party.
  
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  October 2, 2018 1:02pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Are only Labour Ministers allowed privacy?
    
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    October 2, 2018 1:05pm
    - sooty
      
      When they cover up sex camps?
      
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      October 2, 2018 1:22pm
  - dime
    
    the only reason the truth ever comes out about labour is that they are too stupid to cover it up
    
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    October 2, 2018 1:08pm
Swifty

Prove it, today.

Otherwise you’re just another in the long line of slimy, nasty lefties which pop up here from time to time.

Which is it?
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October 2, 2018 1:16pm
Captain Mainwaring

Looks like Muttonhead and Morris Marina are in a race for the title of most bitter, twisted and nasty poster on this blog.
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October 2, 2018 1:22pm
- Morrissey
  
  Cap’n, this is a forum which tolerates, even encourages, the most extreme and hateful rhetoric and abuse aimed at Māori, Pasifika, Muslims, Jews, Africans, gays, lesbians…. Hell, there is ceaseless, daily abuse of the Prime Minister for having the nerve to be beautiful, having a beautiful baby, and a handsome partner.
  
  Neither Muttonhead nor I indulge in such brutal and vicious ad hominem attacks, we both post serious and considered items here, and we interact with even our angriest critics with politeness and forbearance.
  
  Yet you, in your infinite wisdom, have chosen to call us “bitter, twisted and nasty”. Could you perhaps explain why you have done that? (I don’t think you can, but here’s your chance.)
  
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  October 2, 2018 5:52pm
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    You are a legend in your own dreams!
    
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    October 2, 2018 7:35pm
Kabull

The Washington Post has a very interesting letter from Rachel Mitchell, the independent attorney engaged to question Kavanaugh last week. https://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/documents/politics/rachel-mitchells-analysis/3221/

She concludes that “… Dr Ford identified other witnesses to the event, and these witnesses either refuted her allegations or failed to corroborate them. For the reasons discussed below, I do n ot think that a reasonable prosecutor would bring this case based on the evidence before the Committee. Nor do I believe that this evidence is sufficient to satisfy the preponderance-of-the-evidence standard.”

Mitchell then goes item-by-item through the flaws in Ford’s allegations, and provides a time-line of how the allegations were handled after she raised them with Congresswoman Eshoo on 6 July.

This is a dreadful blight on the American notion of civility and fairness. Actions such as those the Democrats have and are taking over Kavanaugh show the dark side of the political bias that is sweeping the Western world. Including here in New Zealand.
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October 2, 2018 1:29pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  ‘civility and fairness’
  Dude, this is the age of Trump. Civilty and fairness died a long time ago.
  
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  October 2, 2018 2:27pm
- wiseowl
  
  Listening to the coterie of feminists babbling on with Nissen on Live was enough to make me chuck.
  What a shallow bunch of lefty feminazis all supporting that Blase women .They don’t have two brain cells to rub together .
  Glad I only caught about two minutes of leftist dribble.
  
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  October 2, 2018 3:18pm
  - Vory v zakone
    
    Meanwhile the NY Post notes that 86% of conservative women in the US believe Kavanaugh
    
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    October 3, 2018 12:48am
Muttonbird

There is some extraordinary wilful denial on display here today.

Surely you can’t be that stupid.

I’ll do you a deal:

If Bridges’ multiple investigations into who leaked his wasteful spending on crown limos, and ironically themselves costing the taxpayer well into triple figures, results in another National MP being named as the leaker I will never comment here again.

If the investigations do turn up another Nat MP, none of those who comment in reply to mine at 12:39pm will comment here again.

Deal?
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October 2, 2018 1:36pm
- srylands
  
  Why on earth would I agree to never comment on Kiwiblog again?
  
  And BTW you don’t understand government accounting. Those Ministerial cars cost the “taxpayer” little more than the cost of the diesel that runs them. Most of the money is simply transfered from Ministerial services to DIA. Both part of the Crown.
  
  EDIT And comment here as much as you like. The only commenter here who pretty much wrecked the place was ztev. Thankfully he is on a long sabbatical.
  
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  October 2, 2018 1:51pm
- Komata
  
  MB
  
  Why should we believe you?
  
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  October 2, 2018 1:53pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  Are you grasping at plastic straws again? I would imagine when the leaker is found that there will be a very public announcement, just to allow the innocent to get on about their business.
  
  I guess everyone who has mental health issues will be under the scope, across all parties. Inside National isn’t where I would be looking first. National seem quite rational unlike some.
  
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  October 2, 2018 2:29pm
  - KevOB
    
    More MP’s should probably have time out. Love ’em or hate ’em they’re the highest paid social workers in the country. Everyone expects then to be available on demand to deal with whatever their issue may be.
    
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    October 2, 2018 7:06pm
Kiwi_in_Paris

Sometimes Alzheimer’s can be amusing:

“Oh Robert, is that you?”

“Oh Hi Mum.”

“It’s very hard to get hold of you. Some other man keeps answering.”

“Oh I think you probably dialled the wrong number Mum.”

“Well I dialled the number very carefully. But this other man keeps answering.”
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October 2, 2018 1:39pm
Happychappy

SPLOOGE knows all about gremlins controlling your brain as Muttonhead is one of his imaginary friends that has controlled his birdbrain.
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October 2, 2018 1:43pm
Niz

https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/global-warming-climate-change-temperature-rise-earth-experts-a8563966.html?amp
“In order to stem rising temperatures, the world will need to cut greenhouse gas emissions to zero”
Simple really. All we (about 7bn of us) need to do is live like stone-age Africans. Starting now.
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October 2, 2018 2:40pm
- starboard
  
  Maori still do. I’ll give it a miss.
  
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  October 2, 2018 2:59pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  But even if it is as bad as touted by alarmists it turns out that global warming is actually good for warming cold and temperate countries far from the equator, like Russia, Mongolia, Korea, most of Europe, Iceland, Canada, Chile and… New Zealand! Vast areas of US, China and South America also benefit. The Sahel region across the southern end of Sahara is also greening up with more rainfall and higher CO2.
  
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  October 2, 2018 3:44pm
- wreck1080
  
  Large swathes of land will be covered by oceans in the next millennia which is a fraction of a blink of an eye on a geological time frame. I think scientists have vastly underestimated the official sea level rise predictions.
  
  A 65 meter rise is possible with the melting of just 2 icesheets in Antarctica. Once melting starts a positive feedback loop is established and little can be done.
  
  Of course, I could be completely wrong. And, those who predict no rise in sea levels could be wrong too (they are already wrong because the sea level is rising at 3.2mm a year right now)
  
  People will just have to deal with it.
  
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  October 2, 2018 3:50pm
- DigNap15
  
  Muslims still do.
  
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  October 2, 2018 4:41pm
waldonz

Legal action coming in 3……2…….1.
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October 2, 2018 2:55pm
wreck1080

It sounds like a number of landlords are pulling out of the rental market due to strict new rules.

And, some agencies are dropping rentals that don’t meet the new legal requirements.

I predict rents will rise, there will be desperate rental shortages, nationwide. Families will be living in cars / garages in greater numbers than ever seen before in the history of the nation.

The absurd thing is, that many of the newly homeless will have voted labour!

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12132076

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/367715/tasman-landlord-had-people-crying-and-begging-to-view-property

Rental seekers in the nelson / malborough area are really being hit hard, with people in tears over not being able to secure homes for their families.

Its OK for jacinda though, in her government provided housing in wellington and high salary. She is very stalinist , preaching humanity but at the same time ruining peoples lives via poorly considered policy.

Maybe her next special project could be ‘rent control’, or forced appropriation of houses to home the newly homeless?
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October 2, 2018 3:32pm
noskire

So, rang Newstalk ZB with the intention to discuss the Clare Curran leak and the Augusto donation to the Labour Party.
The producer said it was not a conversation that would be accepted.
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October 2, 2018 3:34pm
- wreck1080
  
  They are worried about legal action?
  
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  October 2, 2018 3:51pm
  - noskire
    
    Yup, you’re probably right wreck1080.
    I’m bored so will give Larry Williams a crack next hour.
    
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    October 2, 2018 3:56pm
cmm

Herald with a massively misleading article to pluck at our heart strings:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12135624

First off, a picture showing a young boy of perhaps 8 or 9. Well all crims were once young boys or girls. A picture of him as a kid is deliberately misleading. He was put away when he was 17.

“Travion Blount, who was sentenced as a teen to six life terms for stealing cash and a few phones,…”, so just a wee bit of mischief got him 118 years! Terrible!

… except… “[He] took a gun to a party in 2006 and demanded cash, drugs and anything else… At 17, he was convicted of 49 separate offences and what would have been a 14-year jail term became 118 years.”

So 49 separate offences by the age of 17 and the last armed robbery got him a 3 strikes conviction. This boy was on a one-way ticket to badness.

You will be relieved to know, that now he’s 27 and has been pardoned, likely to be released soon.

Does anyone think this bloke has gone straight?

So not exactly the portrayed story of a sweet little kid going away for 118 years. Anyone that puts money in Herald’s pockets should feel ashamed that they support such “journalism”.
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October 2, 2018 3:49pm
- Inandout
  
  Another Hoorald article:
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12132496
  
  What an arsehole.
  
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  October 2, 2018 4:59pm
Southern Raider

WTF

Just saw a post on LinkedIn from someone promoting how in the same day they had their NZ permanent residence approved and also a work visa to the USA

So another immigrant has effectively used us for our passport to get a back door to another country, probably leaving family here to suck off the taxpayer and tax will go to another country!
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October 2, 2018 3:55pm
- cmm
  
  NZ permanent residence does not give you an NZ passport. NZ citizenship does.
  
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  October 2, 2018 4:17pm
Nostradamus

A horse walks into a bar: Runaway filly sparks chaos in French cafe

The line from an age-old joke turns out to be cause for mad panic in a French cafe when a young horse runs amok inside the premises, sending customers scampering for safety.

Quite a funny video!
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October 2, 2018 4:00pm
BananaLlama

Trudeaus Liberals just got an absolute hiding from the Coalition Avenir Quebec who are a new center right Nationalist party that promised to slash immigration numbers and won with 74 seats to 32. Something National should pay attention to in our coming elections instead of slagging off Trump.
All over the western world voters are rejecting open borders insanity and are opting for a homogeneous culture instead of a diverse one.
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October 2, 2018 4:12pm
- cmm
  
  Sorros has failed!
  
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  October 2, 2018 4:18pm
- DigNap15
  
  Good to hear, but we need much more of it and much quicker.
  Eg those parties got close in Sweden, Germany, Holland and Austria, but not close enough!
  
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  October 2, 2018 4:45pm
Fletch

Breathtaking hypocrisy. You may (or may not) remember that Democrat senator Keith Ellison was credibly accused of assault by his then girlfriend Karen Monahan. This was only back in 2016. Her son helped bring it to light when he found files on the mother’s computer.

Anyway, Democrats said they would investigate. And the conclusion?

“An allegation standing alone is not necessarily sufficient to conclude that conduct occurred..”

Wow, just….wow. Believe women – as long as they are not accusing a Democrat.
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October 2, 2018 4:30pm
- SerfsUp
  
  https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2018/10/2/kavanaugh-is-out/
  
  Kavanaugh has been removed from Harvard Law for being sexist and anti women by the same semites who feted Bill Clinton. His entire life has been destroyed by palpably, transparently false smears. If he isn’t appointed, he won’t be permitted to work – either in Colleges or law firms. Because he was a white European Christian male.
  
  I just hope, one day, that i will be able to use my working great grandfathers Lee Enfield, bayonet attached, to bayonet leftist leadership down the line. And i won’t be a murderer because I wont have dispatched any human beings.
  
  It will be fitting too. Because the Somme was engineered to slaughter the maximum number of English and Empire and German Christian men by the members of the Great Orient Lodge which has other names who directed it. Douglas Haig was a member. As was Rawlinson his deputy commander. As was Von Below for the Germans on the Somme. Edward Grey was a lodge member. John Perishing too. Herbert Asquith, Viscount Haldane and Milner worked for Nathan Rothschild. The Monds, the Sassoons, the Cohens and the Isaacs ensured war. On the German side the Simons, the Emiles, the Rathenaus, the Schwabachs, did the same. Albert Ballin was a member, and he mediated between the German and English crowns to ensure activation of Schlieffen. Von Moltke was encouraged to adopt Schlieffen becsuse once started it could not be reversed.
  
  Together they misled Kaisar Wilhelm on Britains intentions re Belgium, and arranged Princep, another lodgemember, to murder Ferdinand.
  
  Max Nordau, a good friend of Herzl and mentor of Vladimir Jabotinsky who is Netanyahus, and certainly Shamir’s intellectual forerunner, with complete assurance of fore-knowledge predicted both the national socialist state of Israel and world war 1, in 1903. All of this is pure truth
  
  And now Kavanaugh faces the same from the same.
  
  The one consolation of the diversity wars is going to be gently walking the professoriate off cliffs and bayoneting those who don’t comply, singing songs of happiness to honour the real greatest generation. They were the cream of western Christian civilization, cultured, learned, magnificent, slaughtered in their ten million my great grandfather with them, by design.
  
  It will be glorious. Our New Zealand troops were betrayed on the Somme. They were betrayed at Crete. A few were betrayed even in occupied Europe by Edward Majoribanks Dansey and the members of the lodge. They were far greater then us. But we can softly hum their songs to counterpoint the sounds of the bayonets sheathing into the hearts of the descendents of their murderers. Soon.
  
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  October 2, 2018 8:07pm
DigNap15

Meanwhile in Toronto, refugees and asylum seekers are being put up in hotels by the government.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/toronto/article-immigration-canada-extending-hotel-stay-of-asylum-seekers-in-toronto/
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October 2, 2018 4:50pm
Jack5

One of Kiwiblog’s South African-born followers might be able to throw light on the background of the incoming vice-chancellor of Canterbury University.

Professor Cheryl de la Rey shares the surname of one of the Boers’ hero generals, Koos de la Rey. But when she became vice-chancellor the University of Pretoria in 2009, University World News described her as the first black person to take the job. Her photograph could be of a person either white or non-white.

Aged about 58, de la Rey grew up in Sydenham, Durban. Her academic field is psychology.

De la Rey steps into the post as the university increasingly Maorifies. University publications refer to “Waitaha Canterbury” and to “Aotearoa New Zealand”.

The university is promoting an “Equity and Diversity Plan 2018-20” to “deepen that culture of inclusiveness.”

De la Rey’s list of publications (up until about 2013) can be read here:

https://www.up.ac.za/media/shared/87/Psych/Bios/de-la-rey-c-prof-bios.zp43447.pdf
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October 2, 2018 4:56pm
- Jack5
  
  The University of Canterbury’s council members – appointed by politicians, staff, students, or the council itself:
  
  https://www.canterbury.ac.nz/about/governance/university-council/council-members/
  
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  October 2, 2018 5:26pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  Yup, very Black, or maybe not so much?
  
  http://www.aepc.es/PsClinicaXI/1.PONENTESCONF/CHERYL.jpg
  
  Who the fuck cares whether she is black, brown, pink or mauve? Is she capable ( and does she unlike some other Massey Twat), believe in freedom of speech? Sick to death of Racism.
  
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  October 2, 2018 6:36pm
  - Jack5
    
    It is interesting if this woman is both a South African non-white AND a descendant of Koos de la Rey, who is an almost legendary hero of Afrikaaners.
    
    Here’s a song explaining how Afrikaaners feel about Koos de la Rey:
    
    https://youtu.be/vtKKJSfYraU
    
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    October 2, 2018 8:19pm
Muttonbird

It’s really interesting to know what sort of free speech isn’t allowed on this blog, the supposed home of free speech.
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October 2, 2018 5:23pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Muttonbird:
  
  Let’s deal with this in two stages.
  
  Stage 1: Can you give an example of “free speech [that] isn’t allowed on this blog”? The word “allowed” implies a criticism of DPF’s moderating policy, so I’m intrigued to know what specific point you say isn’t allowed to be discussed here.
  
  Stage 2, in case you’re wondering, will be a contrast with what goes down at your other home (The Standard). Definitely no free speech there!
  
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  October 2, 2018 5:41pm
  - Muttonbird
    
    I commented on this very thread that the National Party leaker, Jami-Lee Ross, had been revealed.
    
    There’s an extremely high probability that this is the case and I was exercising my right to free speech by saying it.
    
    The comment has been deleted. That is censorship.
    
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    October 2, 2018 5:54pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Muttonbird:
      
      There are only 2 ways for a comment to be deleted. First, DPF deletes it. That happens rarely, as far as I know. Second, 5 different people click on the report button, and your comment goes into moderation until DPF checks it. I’ve seen cases (involving Hugh) where a comment disappeared but reappeared later, presumably after DPF released it. My view is that, compared to other blogs, DPF has the moderating balance about right – particularly as he’s busy running a business and caring for a family.
      
      But, to your point, you’ve made a tenuous connection between an announcement that Jami-Lee Ross is taking medical leave for personal health reasons and a leaked National Party announcement. I didn’t see your comment. It’s possible, though, that 5 people reported it on the basis that it made light of a serious mental health issue. I assume you’d take the same view if someone on your political side of the fence went on leave for similar reasons and others sought to make fun of it?
      
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      October 2, 2018 6:02pm
      - Muttonbird
        
        Reported comments (5 times) are still visible to the commenter who made them when logged in.
        
        Two of my comments today and one a few days ago have disappeared completely along with all the sub-threaded replies to that comment. I can’t see them so they have been deleted.
        
        I’m not making fun of Jami-Lee Ross – I wish him well – I just wish Simon Bridges didn’t lie to the public today. You’d know that if the comment hadn’t been erased.
        
        Bridges must think we are stupid, and it is appalling that he and whoever put Ross up to the leak (Cameron Slater) would use mental health as a shield which to hide behind.
        
        I actually applaud Farrar doing a bit of moderating for once even if he’s censoring free speech on this occasion because he’s done a piss-poor job to date.
        
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        October 2, 2018 6:34pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I was exercising my right to free speech by saying it.
      
      No-one is stopping you from saying it on your own blog, or shouting it from your rooftop, … but this blogspace is not your personal fiefdom.
      
      We are all here courtesy of our host, DPF.
      
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      October 2, 2018 6:08pm
      - Muttonbird
        
        Let’s apply the same to Southern, Molineux, and Brash, then.
        
        They are free to spout racist intolerance wherever people will have them, and they do.
        
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        October 2, 2018 6:42pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Muttonbird:
      
      I’ve just noticed this exchange at The Standard:
      
      Muttonbird I’ll be very very very surprised if Bridges’ extraordinarily expensive investigations name any other National MP as the leaker.
      
      mickysavage I see you have been having a bit of fun at a site that will not be named …
      
      Were you having “a bit of fun” here at Kiwiblog? Did you notice the recent media coverage about Greg Boyed? Some topics probably don’t lend themselves to having “a bit of fun”.
      
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      October 2, 2018 6:14pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Don’t come over too holier-than-thou, Nostradamus. It really doesn’t suit you.
        
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        October 2, 2018 6:19pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Mike:
        
        You’re hardly one to talk – you chip away at Maggy and say nothing when Stephieboy goes after her. Maggy has commented on your behaviour more than once.
        
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        October 2, 2018 6:26pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Exactly. I’m sick of hypocrites like her and Keeping Stock. I’ve said many times that stephieboy is a bit limited. I think it was itstricky who observed the other day that it’s a bit like the class taunting a retarded kid and them complaining when he punches someone.
        There are plenty of people on Kiwiblog already keeping an eye on stephieboy, doxxing him even. They don’t need my help.
        
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        October 2, 2018 6:36pm
      - Muttonbird
        
        On that note, Mike, I’ll be leaving now.
        
        I don’t like the idea of people here doxxing me because they don’t like what I say.
        
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        October 2, 2018 6:44pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Muttonbird, regarding doxxing it is something I have mixed feelings. It is more a reflection of the kind of people they are ( including Nostradamus ) limited by ignorance, intolerance and utterly contemptible.to boot.
        
        There would be a hell to pay if either of us doxed them with threats of summonses etc.!
        
        “Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”
        
        Martin Luther King, Jr.
        
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        October 2, 2018 7:20pm
    - KevOB
      
      Jami-Lee Ross expressly denied he had anything to do with the leak because he was expecting this sad type of politicking. You say the leaker had been revealed. He had not. You are deliberately taking a position against him without evidence. More MP’s should take leave–it’s a very stressful job 25hrs/day 55 weeks/year.
      
      Freedom of speech may not extend to a statement of opinion as an alternative. Damaging peoples reputation on say so may have legal implications.
      
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      October 2, 2018 7:17pm
      - waikatogirl
        
        Disgusted to see TVNZ news led by mixing JLR taking sick leave and insinuating that he was taking leave as he was the leaker. They promised more to come! Pack of weasels. I hope TVNZ apologise if JLR is proven not to be the leaker.
        
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        October 2, 2018 7:40pm
- nasska
  
  ….”what sort of free speech isn’t allowed on this blog”…..
  
  Defamation, endless trolling (vicious like ztev, not inane like say stephieboy) & acting unhinged (eg. RealityCzech over Jews) are about all that incur the wrath of DPF. Of course if you’re socially liberal & non religious you’ll be downticked into oblivion but shit happens.
  
  Other than that bugger all that I’ve noticed.
  
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  October 2, 2018 6:03pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Nasska:
    
    DPF has (as a public service) kept some of the best rants for Kiwiblog readers to enjoy. Like this one – Dad went from 0 demerits to 110 in 22 minutes!
    
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    October 2, 2018 6:20pm
    - nasska
      
      That was a classic. And he kept it up via email.
      
      Not Dad’s finest hour! 🙂
      
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      October 2, 2018 6:24pm
      - stigie
        
        Christ, just went back and reread that stuff back in 2011, he became unhinged back then when trying to give up smoking.
        Of course he’s a completely different bloke now….He voted Winston !~
        
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        October 2, 2018 7:16pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  Suggesting, or advocating, or hinting we assassinate a politician. I was not aware that this is illegal in New Zealand. In Africa, one can advocate for the assassination of politicians one does not like…., but thankfully, this is not Africa! Hope this is helpful…..
  
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  October 2, 2018 6:17pm
Morrissey

Groper No. 18 wants FBI to investigate Groper No. 43

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2018/10/01/trump-fbi-very-comprehensive-investigation-of-brett-kavanaugh-supreme-court-senate-sexual-assault-sexual-misconduct-judge-christine-blasey-ford.html
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October 2, 2018 5:41pm
- Inandout
  
  OK, you are insane.
  
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  October 2, 2018 5:43pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Groper no. 18 is possibly insane, as is no. 43. Their actions deserve such an epithet. Could you justify your use of it to describe me? (To be frank, I don’t think you can.)
    
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    October 2, 2018 5:45pm
Jack5

Extremists stirring in Germany …

Germany’s federal prosecutor’s office has arrested six men in Saxony and Bavaria on suspicion of forming an armed right-wing terrorist organisation.

https://www.thelocal.de/20181001/breaking-six-alledged-right-wing-terrorists-arrested-in-chemnitz
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October 2, 2018 5:44pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  The other armed nationalist groups and cells will now know to keep their heads down…
  
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  October 2, 2018 6:46pm
- BananaLlama
  
  Got to knock that shit on its head before it gets out of control like in the Ukraine.
  
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  October 2, 2018 6:56pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Banana Llama,
    
    Tough guy Putin’s your man?
    
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    October 2, 2018 7:23pm
- stephieboy
  
  Another take on the same news item,
  
  “Six arrested for creating far-right ‘terror group’ in Chemnitz: police”
  
  Suspects planned to carry out armed attacks against foreigners, according to German authorities.
  
  German authorities on Monday arrested six suspects for allegedly forming a “right-wing terror group” and planning attacks targeting foreigners, a month after large-scale anti-immigrant protests in the eastern city of Chemnitz sparked fierce political debate.
  
  The six men — all of whom are German citizens between the ages of 20 and 30 — are being investigated for their role in establishing the radical right-wing group “Revolution Chemnitz” that was planning “violent attacks” on “foreigners and political dissenters,” according to a police statement….’
  
  https://www.politico.eu/article/six-arrested-for-creating-far-right-terror-group-in-chemnitz-germany-police/
  
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  October 2, 2018 7:33pm
Manolo

An incompetent endorses a socialist:
https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/10/01/barack-obama-endorses-socialist-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-in-new-york/
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October 2, 2018 6:55pm
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo, Breitbart propaganda Dept are expert at playing the smear card.
  
  Still getting back at the former President for allegedly assassinating their former boss?
  
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  October 2, 2018 7:35pm
krazykiwi

Business confidence lowest since 2009

NZIER says the survey points to GDP growth of just 2 per cent in the year to September 30, well below the levels touted by the Finance Minister. Significantly, the survey found that Government policy was the biggest driver of business confidence, followed by labour issues. — Amy Adams

2% when Robertson based his projections on 3%. The fiscal hole will be >$20b.

We’re becoming a banana republic.
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October 2, 2018 7:18pm
- stephieboy
  
  “We’re becoming a banana republic.”
  
  You obviously chose your alias for good reason!
  
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  October 2, 2018 7:26pm
  - starboard
    
    If thats the case shariaboy, when are you changing yours to Pervert ?
    
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    October 2, 2018 7:29pm
    - stephieboy
      
      starboard, there is no cause for that as you know!
      
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      October 2, 2018 7:43pm
  - nasska
    
    Never mind stephie……the voices may not be real but I bet they come up with some great ideas. 🙂
    
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    October 2, 2018 7:44pm
    - stephieboy
      
      nasska , as I quoted earlier,
      
      “Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”
      
      Martin Luther King, Jr.
      
      On your and Starboard’s part. Nostradamus too.
      
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      October 2, 2018 7:48pm
      - starboard
        
        Loon..pervert…
        
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        October 2, 2018 8:29pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stephieboy:
        
        Nostradamus too
        
        Do your St Albans friends know what you get up to at Kiwiblog? I bet you keep your perverted comments (all of them) on the down-low!
        
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        October 2, 2018 8:33pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Nostradamus, I would say the folk at St Albam’s have much better things to do in their spare time than responding to twerps like yourself!
        
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        October 2, 2018 9:06pm
      - Inandout
        
        MLKjnr liked his bit on the side in motels. He was no saint, and quite possibly in today’s terms be described as a ‘groper’.
        
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        October 2, 2018 10:24pm
- DigNap15
  
  Yes I mentioned this new report before.
  I note that its hardly got a mention in the MSM yet.
  Larry Williams did mention it.
  
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  October 2, 2018 8:18pm
nasska

And from the “It Sucks to be an Outed Conservative Moralistic Nut” files: 🙂

…..”She also learned Craig had kissed MacGregor on election night 2011 and touched her breasts.”…..

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/crime/colin-craigs-case-against-former-press-secretary-rachel-macgregor-drags-on/
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October 2, 2018 8:06pm
- stigie
  
  …..”She also learned Craig had kissed MacGregor on election night 2011 and touched her breasts.”…..
  
  Hell, im not sure which is worse, this or the Professor getting snogged on the 2005 erection night..?
  
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  October 2, 2018 8:15pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Stigie:
    
    im not sure which is worse
    
    I’m going with Colin Craig – he went one step further and wrote a poem about it!
    
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    October 2, 2018 8:35pm
    - nasska
      
      Have you ever projected this “affair” Nostra? Okay by 2011 he had advanced to grabbing a bit of tit & writing poetry.
      
      By 2014 he could well of progressed to having (may God forgive us the thought)…..a “feel”?
      
      I reckon ol’ Col could teach Gayford a trick or two! 🙂
      
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      October 2, 2018 8:42pm
krazykiwi

6-year-old school children being instructed to write gay love letters

A video published by the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) showing 6-year-old school children being instructed to write gay love letters has been causing a stir on social media.
The video, originally uploaded to BBC Radio Manchester’s Facebook page, shows young children at Bewsey Lodge Primary School being instructed to write love letters from “Prince Henry” to his manservant, “Thomas”, with the teacher instructing her pupils: “You’re going to tell Thomas why it’s a brilliant idea for him to marry you.”

“This school teaches children about LGBT relationships from an early age,” enthuses the BBC’s subtitled commentary.

FFS.
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October 2, 2018 8:39pm
- nasska
  
  They’ve jumped the shark! Insanity has become reality.
  
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  October 2, 2018 8:46pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Better than forcing them to join military cadets and other useless and/or harmful nonsense that they used to inflict on kids.
    
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    October 2, 2018 9:12pm
- stephieboy
  
  I wonder if the Teacher teaches the children about avoiding gropers like the US President?
  
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  October 2, 2018 9:04pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Stephieboy:
    
    You seem particularly interested in groping activities?
    
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    October 2, 2018 9:22pm
starboard

Filthy feral scum in H/C house, Motueka .

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/107529652/the-nightmare-of-housing-nzs-sustainable-tenancies
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October 2, 2018 8:57pm
- Morrissey
  
  Did someone say “filthy feral scum”?
  
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/election/2017/08/10-transgressions-of-new-zealand-politicians.html
  
  N.B. Number 8 (Peter Fraser) does NOT belong in this company of reprobates.
  
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  October 2, 2018 9:18pm
  - starboard
    
    Didn’t know your relos lived in Mot, morris.
    
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    October 2, 2018 9:49pm
Morrissey

Hmmmm. This Craig chap looks like a contender for our Gropers series….
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October 2, 2018 8:57pm
- stigie
  
  Add it to your suspect list after you’ve edited the one and only Darren Hughes !~
  
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  October 2, 2018 9:24pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Stigie:
    
    Morrissey is probably saving “Dirty Darren” for his special edition of Gropers!
    
    Labour MP Darren Hughes resigned from Parliament yesterday as witness reports emerged of a distressed, naked man on the street near Mr Hughes’ Wellington home on the night a youth complained to police about an incident of a sexual nature.
    …
    One witness told 3 News a flustered man, matching a description of the complainant, was near the Mt Victoria tunnel around 5 o’clock on the morning in question. “He was standing there with one hand over his private parts and the other hand with his thumb out, hitch-hiking,” the witness said. “I thought, ‘Oh boy, the husband’s come home and it’s a quick exit’.”
    
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    October 2, 2018 9:27pm
    - stigie
      
      Would that be the homosexual section of the special edition Nostra..?
      
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      October 2, 2018 9:29pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Gropers – special edition on homosexuals
        Gropers – special edition on transsexuals
        Gropers – special edition on gender-fluid fruitcakes
        
        Heck, maybe Morrissey should simplify things, and just go with Gropers – Labour edition!
        
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        October 2, 2018 9:31pm
      - stigie
        
        Bwahahahahaha !!
        
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        October 2, 2018 9:34pm
EAD_TWO

Does anyone know what has happened to my 8.19am post that bought everyone’s attention the MSM articles highlighting the Jewish vendeta and persecution of Kavanaugh such as the below from the Wall Street Journal and the Jewish Daily Forward?

https://forward.com/opinion/405519/the-jewish-case-against-brett-kavanaugh/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/is-brett-kavanaugh-bad-for-the-jews-1532387026

Just like in 1984 – it appears as if the truth is censored and the news “memory holed”

This is chilling – if anyone dares to post anything factual that paints Jewish behaviour in a less than flattering light, the thought control police comes out censors out right to free speech

Is it possible that the Jewish control over social media has now extended to Kiwiblog (for those not aware, the Jewish ADL are responsible for policing all Social Media for thought crimes)

https://www.adl.org/news/press-releases/facebook-google-microsoft-twitter-and-adl-announce-lab-to-engineer-new
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October 2, 2018 10:09pm
- stephieboy
  
  EAD TWO, that Mark Zuckerberg’s parents are ” Reform ” Jewish is also Chilling?
  
  A world free from hate is undesirable?
  
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  October 2, 2018 10:18pm
  - Jack5
    
    EADolf – sorry to repeat this, but you probably missed my late video clip post for you higher in the thread.
    
    Enjoy:
    
    https://youtu.be/TrRAWz1WcFs
    
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    October 2, 2018 10:38pm
    - EAD_TWO
      
      Jacksie,
      
      I’m not interested on your YouTube videos.
      
      Rather, what are your thoughts on the show trial of Kavanaugh and the Jewish role in it?
      
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      October 2, 2018 10:56pm
      - Jack5
        
        ❗EADolf❗, you think the Kavanaugh challenge is Zionist?
        
        And I thought Netanyahu and Trump were best buddies:
        
        https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-and-netanyahu-a-match-made-in-heaven/
        
        ?
        
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        October 2, 2018 11:10pm
  - starboard
    
    “the thought control police comes out censors out right to free speech”
    
    shariaboy is safe, it doesn’t think…
    
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    October 2, 2018 10:54pm
starboard

Well done liarbor..well done, peters.

http://business.scoop.co.nz/2018/10/02/nz-firms-most-pessimistic-in-nine-years-blame-govt-policy/
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October 2, 2018 11:04pm
Hugh Pavletich

New Zealand and Australian housing markets … update …

… New Zealand …

Falling house prices spread across more of New Zealand | Stuff.co.nz

https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/107542192/falling-house-prices-spread-across-more-of-new-zealand

Falling property prices are becoming a feature of more parts of the New Zealand housing market.

QV has reported a significant increase in the number of properties being listed for sale in September – but value growth remained modest.

Five of the 15 main centres reported a drop in values in the September quarter: Auckland, New Plymouth, Napier, Christchurch and Queenstown-Lakes. That’s up from four the month before and three in July. … read more via hyperlink above …

… Australia …

Australian house prices keep falling … Nine Com Au

https://www.9news.com.au/national/2018/10/01/16/37/australian-house-prices-keep-falling-property

A likely tighter lending environment following the banking royal commission is expected to drive property prices down even further, with national house values registering 12 months of consistent losses. … VIEW & READ More via hyperlink above …

MacroBusiness – Australian Property Shares Dollar Economy

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/
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Latest NZIER Quarterly Survey of Business Opinion shows worst level of business confidence since March 2009 | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/business/96128/latest-nzier-quarterly-survey-business-opinion-shows-worst-level-business-confidence
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… latest IPSOS New Zealand poll … lifting 50% Kiwis major concern excessive housing costs … 24% of Aussies … read on …

New Zealand Issues Monitor – Concerns about housing grow

https://www.ipsos.com/en-nz/new-zealand-issues-monitor-concerns-about-housing-grow

https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2018-09/2nd_ipsos_new_zealand_issues_monitor_released_september_2018.pdf
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Rachael Membery

So here we have it in a nutshell, a British born Iranian commenting on NZ values considers that other cultures could be used as a modifier on our boozie, uncivilised? culture.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12135833
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