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Notsofast

“Her Honour is recognised by her peers and the profession for her superior intellect, her judicial instinct and experience, coupled with strong leadership, qualities that I am sure will make an outstanding Chief Justice,” Ardern said.

Winkelmann, 56, has served as a judge for 14 years after being made a partner in a major commercial law firm (now DLA Piper) when she was just 25 years old.

She was appointed to the High Court in 2004, became Chief High Court Judge in 2009, and was appointed to the Court of Appeal in 2015.

Today’s announcement was a great honour with significant responsibility in an increasingly complex and diverse society, she said.

“An independent, and skilled judiciary is vital to the health of our democracy. “””
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December 24, 2018 8:00am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Let’s make this idiot disappear just as quickly as he vanished yesterday.
  He doesn’t need to mention Lundy’s name – we know who he is.
  
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  December 24, 2018 8:10am
Monique Watson

Ever wonder how the tradition of putting an angel on top of your Christmas tree got it’s start? It’s not as magical as you may think.

When four of Santa’s elves got sick, the trainee elves did not produce toys as fast as the regular ones, and Santa began to feel the pre-Christmas pressure.
Then Mrs. Claus told Santa that her Mother was coming to visit, which stressed Santa even more.
When he went to harness the reindeer, he found that three of them were about to give birth and two others had jumped the fence and were out, Heaven knows where.
Then when he began to load the sleigh, one of the floorboards cracked, the toy bag fell to the ground and all the toys were scattered.
Frustrated, Santa went in the house for a cup of apple cider and a shot of rum. When he went to the cupboard, he discovered the elves had drunk all the cider and hidden the liquor.
In his frustration, he accidentally dropped the cider jug, and it broke into hundreds of little glass pieces all over the kitchen floor.
He went to get the broom and found the mice had eaten all the straw off the end of the broom.
Just then the doorbell rang, and an irritated Santa marched to the door, yanked it open, and there stood a little angel with a great big Christmas tree.
The angel said very cheerfully, “Merry Christmas, Santa. Isn’t this a lovely day? I have a beautiful tree for you. Where would you like me to stick it?”
And thus began the tradition of the little angel on top of the Christmas tree.
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December 24, 2018 8:04am
- G152
  
  Sadly I have but one tick to give
  
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  December 24, 2018 8:31am
- Morrissey
  
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  Very, very Freudian, Monique.
  
  Would you, errrr, like to pop round to Chez Breen some time?
  
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  December 24, 2018 9:49am
  - softail 1450
    
    Moronissey , go have sex with yourself,
    Could I suggest a shepherds crook?
    
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    December 24, 2018 9:58am
    - Morrissey
      
      If the shepherd’s crook, would his….sheep be available?
      
      (Asking for a friend.)
      
      Stephie, actually.
      
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      December 24, 2018 10:00am
      - starboard
        
        You would need a strap on morris, ya noodle is just not big enough to satisfy women.
        
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        December 24, 2018 10:28am
      - SaltyCroc
        
        How come this got downticked? It’s funny!
        
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        December 24, 2018 11:47am
- Ed Snack
  
  I have to say that your rendition is rather more polite than the last version I heard (or recounted).
  
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  December 24, 2018 10:51am
Paulus

Can somebody please tell me what time our real Queen Jacinda is to make her Christmas Day speech to the Nation.
I assume it will show the Royal Princess as well with the believed father in the background.
When I know the time I can get my bottle of Speights and toast our real Royal family.
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December 24, 2018 8:05am
- sooty
  
  I bet it will be before the real and only Queen of NZ, gets tospeak!
  Make yu vomit!
  Might as well strave all day and get pissed!
  
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  December 24, 2018 8:22am
- Inandout
  
  Will her head bob about like a powder freak?
  
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  December 24, 2018 8:45am
  - Morrissey
    
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    I can imagine exactly the manner you fantasize her head bobbing about, you pervert.
    
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    December 24, 2018 9:36am
    - toby1845
      
      Sorry, morris. I accidentally upticked you.
      
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      December 24, 2018 9:41am
      - Morrissey
        
        And there’s an uptick from moi pour vous, mon ami.
        
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        December 24, 2018 9:51am
    - Inandout
      
      Morrissey, apparently Monica Lewinsky suffered from the same trait; just a casual observation, nothing more.
      
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      December 24, 2018 1:39pm
- Biscuit
  
  Paulus, just for you!:
  
  Jass’s 2018 Christmas Address.
  
  6.45 pm: Winston Peters graciously gives permission for proceedings to begin.
  
  6.50 pm: Her Royalness (accompanied by the Lawnmower-in-Chief and the Most Beautiful Baybee in the WorldTM) enter the auditorium.
  
  6.51 pm: His Curmudgeon The Trevor menacingly murmurs ‘No face pictures of the Most Beautiful Baybee in the WorldTM, you lot!’ to gathered photographers.
  
  6.52 pm: There is an impromptu haka.
  
  6.54 pm: An impromptu explosion into applause by the audience follows. Every person in the room jumps up and begins to wildly clap, as if racing each other to see who can get to their feet the fastest.
  
  7.15pm: Who will have the nerve to be the first person to stop clapping in honor of Comrade Jass? No one has the courage, so the clapping goes on … and on … and on …
  
  7.56 pm: Meka Whaitiri puts away that fearsome-looking taiaha…
  
  7.56 pm and 10 seconds: The audience settles down.
  
  7.58 pm: Eleven folk with squeegees mop up the drool from assorted New Zealand media.
  
  8 pm: Her Royalness begins her address to her adoring public.
  
  8:01 pm: Jack Tame, his best profile to the camera, of course, faints with the excitement of it all.
  
  8:02 pm: The media are given the reports praising the speech ‘Rarely have so inspiring words ever been uttered…’ that they are to run as their own.
  
  8:04 pm: Live shots from UN Headquarters show assorted world leaders looking on in awe.
  
  8:05 pm: Meka Whaitiri again puts away that fearsome-looking taiaha…
  
  8:04 pm: The world leaders settle down. Even Donald Trump has taken time off from sacking rogue members of his Administration to attend.
  
  8:02 pm: The Most Beautiful Baybee in the WorldTM burps. Audrey Young stops penning her latest ‘Why Simon Bridges Has To Go’ column and smiles beatifically.
  
  …
  
  10 pm: Her Royalness (accompanied by the Lawnmower in Chief and the Most Beautiful Baybee in the WorldTM) depart.
  
  10.10 pm: There is much wailing and teeth-gashing in the audience, and in the media area especially, as it becomes apparent that there will be no encore and that, ye Gods, the Holy Trinity won’t be seen again in public until January.
  
  10.10 pm: Audrey Young resumes penning her latest ‘Why Simon Bridges Has To Go’ column.
  
  10.15 pm: Execution of the rogue member of the media who asks ‘Did Jass actually say anything?’
  
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  December 24, 2018 9:02am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Brilliant! 100 upticks from me.
    
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    December 24, 2018 9:22am
    - Close Hen Counters
      
      Oh and me too!! That is really ?
      
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      December 24, 2018 10:01am
  - RF
    
    10.30pm: Jethro’s shackles are put back on as he gets back into the Dept of Corrections van to return him back to Parry to complete his sentence.
    
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    December 24, 2018 10:15am
    - pdm
      
      Biscuit – do you think Richie Hardcore will be on show as well?
      
      I am positive he and Ardern are very close friends and he may be an even closer friends with her lawn mowing partner.
      
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      December 24, 2018 10:58am
      - Komata
        
        Pdm
        
        Shouldn’t that be ‘than’ her lawnmowing partner?
        
        Asking for a friend.
        
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        December 24, 2018 1:40pm
Happychappy

It is alright when Peter’s bends the truth to capture votes from National and other Parties but when other with the belief that this immigration policy that Winston and the Coalition have signed portray it as a sign of giving away our right to select who we want in this Country he turns out to be a crybaby as his voters have turned on him calling the Messiah a traitor and other names. Let’s hope he chokes on his Christmas celebration and finally wakes up to the fact that he is well past his use by date.
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December 24, 2018 8:13am
- Doubledimp
  
  What options are available to oust him? There must be some way the members can get shot of him.
  
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  December 24, 2018 8:17am
  - KevOB
    
    Not in MMP.
    
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    December 24, 2018 8:50am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Define ‘shot’ here as I am envisioning some lead and I don’t see an HB
    
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    December 24, 2018 8:53am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    NZ First members should leave in droves, and make it public knowledge, keeping track of the numbers.
    
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    December 24, 2018 9:17am
    - RF
      
      Went to bed early last night and woke up at around 2am. Tuned into Newstalk ZB talkback and could believe the torrent of anti NZ First / Peters comments. Party faithful are leaving in droves. Must not forget Ardern who also received a kicking.
      
      If this is an indication of NZ First’s popularity Peters might as well stay away on his launch and continue fishing until he retires.
      
      Signing the global migration agreement has been the proverbial straw that broke the camels back.
      
      The host – Bruce Russell – also strongly believes that there is a connection with Ardern and the drug dealer who is going to be deported and that ILG has been given instructions.
      
      What was once a no go area is now open slather with no holds barred.
      
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      December 24, 2018 10:35am
      - waikatogirl
        
        Yes, open slather at 2.30am. Once the sun comes up all that has been voiced is silenced…
        
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        December 24, 2018 11:05am
      - Justitia
        
        Excellent.
        
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        December 24, 2018 11:06am
- Justitia
  
  Mr 4% and his band of intellectual pygmies will now be at 2%, going by the NZ First Facebook page.
  
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  December 24, 2018 8:43am
  - realityczech
    
    “Mr 4%”
    
    As opposed to Simon 7% ?
    
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    December 24, 2018 12:40pm
    - Paulus
      
      But stupid, the National Party whom we support not in a Presidential Ardern way, is currently at 47% and rising, so get stuffed.
      Happy New Year.
      
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      December 24, 2018 1:15pm
      - realityczech
        
        Imagine what they could do if they got rid of Simon, the leader loathed by even the vast majority of party supporters.
        
        Maybe you want another two terms of the current regime instead?
        
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        December 24, 2018 3:38pm
- godruelf
  
  Sadly I think the only way we will be rid of him is when he doesn’t wake up.
  
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  December 24, 2018 8:53am
- niggly
  
  Missing in action is the MSM, who like to delude themselves they hold the powerful to account.
  
  If that were true, why hasn’t there been even one single article analysing Winston Peters’ about-face on the UN migration compact, the incredible reaction from NZF supporters which is threatening to break NZF apart, and the repercussions for the Coalition Govt & Labour should NZF support plummet to 1-2%?
  
  Will Labour still have a mandate to govern (it was bad enough that virtually all public polls since the 2017 election had NZF around the 5% mark or under – what now, now that their support would have to be lower)?
  
  And why the secrecy of NZ signing the UN migration compact and why did Winston support it ….. Winston supporting it would be as unlikely as James Shaw and the Greens calling for the resumption of coal mining on the West Coast and building new coal power stations.
  
  It just doesn’t add up!
  
  All in the same week in which Winston allowed the COL Govt to stiff the Singapore govt over basing some of their fighter jets here for training purposes and set back NZ-Singapore relations.
  
  Again this too just doesn’t add up!
  
  Meanwhile where are the pathetic MSM?
  
  They are always eager to report on troubles and about faces in National, ACT, UF etc. But are no where to be seen on these issues affecting the COL!
  
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  December 24, 2018 9:28am
  - madamezucchininz
    
    ….what will happen if NZ Last….have a paid up membership of less than 500?…..Will it be a constitutional crisis?….Would we have an early election?…..Didn’t NZ Last have an urgent meeting earlier in the year due to falling membership numbers?…..Who is keeping an eye on the membership of this loser party?……Certainly not the MSM…
    
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    December 24, 2018 12:38pm
    - waikatosinger
      
      I don’t think Winston plans to stand again at the next election. I think he is just coasting along enjoying the baubles until then. I also think he doesn’t really give a toss about what happens to NZ 1st afterwards, so look for a last minute announcement of his intention to retire just before lists are due. As to why he agreed to go along with the UN pact – remember that refugees are what Jacinda cares absolutely the most about – she is just desperate for us to to have more of them so that we can enjoy the same benefits of multiculturalism that the UK is experiencing right now. He probably just got tired of her hassling him.
      
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      December 24, 2018 10:39pm
MT_Tinman

There have been several deaths on (and just off) the roads since the cops started their annual Thieve-from-the-Motorists christmas progrom.

In which court will the head pig be facing manslaughter charges?
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December 24, 2018 8:16am
- Classic Liberal
  
  Genuine question: how does the police work cause accidents?
  
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  December 24, 2018 9:20am
  - Ed Snack
    
    I believe that this refers the police habit of proclaiming the credit for any reduction in the road toll over a specified period and denying any responsibility for any increases.
    
    Their behaviour fits very well that classic definition of insanity – doing the same thing over and over again yet expecting a different result each time. Though to be fair, there are a number of scientific experiments founded on just this principle, like looking for the decay of a proton (average life of a proton is, in some theories, expected to be finite but > 10^35 years).
    
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    December 24, 2018 10:57am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    People focussing excessively on their speedometer rather than the road. People not accelerating to high enough speed to pass quickly due to fear of cops.
    
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    December 24, 2018 10:59am
    - waikatosinger
      
      Most of the speed cameras are in the city. People really don’t speed all that much on the open road in busy holiday traffic. They can get a lot more money by going after those doing 54 on urban main roads.
      
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      December 24, 2018 10:44pm
  - auckwood
    
    Maybe the lack of police work…? On Saturday (I believe the first full day of the 4km tolerance) in my travels across Auckland I passed 4 patrol cars with their lasers out for anyone over 104km, but paying no attention to the idiots driving at 70-80km for no reason on straight stretches of motorways creating rolling traffic jams…
    
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    December 24, 2018 3:02pm
- Chris R
  
  Ask Ms Genter. She promised a zero road toll. That worked out well didn’t it!!!!
  
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  December 24, 2018 9:20am
- Rocky Jnr
  
  WANKER
  
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  December 24, 2018 9:54am
Huevon

Happy Saturnalia kiwibloggers!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturnalia
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December 24, 2018 8:17am
- Nukuleka
  
  Hueveon: seems surely you are a day too late. Your reference states December 17 till 23rd. The point you are making is…?
  
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  December 24, 2018 8:26am
- Paulus
  
  Saturnalia – I wish !
  
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  December 24, 2018 10:11am
alloytoo

As it’s going to be a busy couple of days, I would like to wish everyone a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
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December 24, 2018 8:25am
Morrissey

GROPERS
No. 62: His Dishonor Clarence Thomas

Uncle Tom [disparaging] 1. a black person who is overeager to win the approval of whites (as by obsequious behavior or uncritical acceptance of white values and goals); 2. a person who is overly subservient to or cooperative with authority

During the televised hearings, which lasted three days, Anita F. Hill, who then taught at the University of Oklahoma’s law school, detailed allegations of workplace sexual harassment by Judge Thomas, who was her supervisor at two government agencies. And Judge Thomas forcefully denied the accusations, claiming they played into stereotypes of black men.

The astonishing testimony aired Ms. Hill’s accounts of crude behavior and vulgar language, the likes of which had never before been discussed in the buttoned-up hearing rooms of the United States Senate. The Senate Judiciary Committee’s dismissive treatment of Ms. Hill by the all-male, all-white Senate Judiciary Committee empowered a wave of women to run for state and national office.

….

Ms. Hill said that Judge Thomas had repeatedly asked her to go out with him in a social capacity and would not take no for an answer. She said he would talk about sex in vivid detail, describing pornography he had seen involving women with large breasts, women having sex with animals, group sex and rape scenes.

Judge Thomas would also talk about his own “sexual prowess” in workplace conversations, Ms. Hill said. And he once mentioned a pornographic film whose star was called “Long Dong Silver,” which turned into an infamous name in American political lore.

“It would have been more comfortable to remain silent,” she said. “But when I was asked by a representative of this committee to report my experience, I felt that I had to tell the truth. I could not keep silent.”

After Ms. Hill’s opening statement, Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr.*, the Delaware Democrat who was then chairman of the committee, began questioning her on the specific locations of her harassment allegations. She mentioned the “incident of the Coke can,” which — as she had described a half-hour earlier — involved Judge Thomas asking her who had put pubic hair on his can of cola.

Mr. Biden asked, “Can you describe it, once again, for me please?”

After a sigh, Ms. Hill did. ….

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/20/us/politics/anita-hill-testimony-clarence-thomas.html

* No. 7 in this series

https://www.npr.org/2018/09/23/650138049/a-timeline-of-clarence-thomas-anita-hill-controversy-as-kavanaugh-to-face-accuse

“GROPERS” is presented by GroperWatch®, a division of Daisycutter Sports Inc.
1 George Herbert Walker Bush; 2 Bill O’Reilly; 3 Al Franken; 4 Robin Brooke; 5 Lester Beck; No. 6 Arnold Schwarzenegger; 7 Joe Biden; 8 Rolf Harris; 9 Harold Bloom; 10 Sir Jimmy Savile; 11 Dr Morgan Fahey; 12 Prince Harry; 13 Bill Clinton; 14 Judge Roy Moore; 15 Matt Lauer; 16 Richard Branson; 17 Warren Moon; 18 Donald John Trump; 19 Damian Green; 20 Gene Simmons; 21 Sylvester Stallone; 22 Louise’s husband Charlie; 23 Father O’Hagan (AKA “Father Gropius”); 24 David Lloyd George; 25 James Franco; 26 Joel Kramer; 27 Rene Naufahu; 28 Steve Wynn; 29 Vince McMahon; 30 Rob Porter; 31 The old buffers at Russell McVeagh; 32 Otago law students; 33 Tom Brokaw; 34 David Scott; 35 Justin Trudeau; 36 Morgan Freeman; 37 Hugh Hefner’s guests; 38 Brock Turner; 39 Les Moonves; 40 Asia Argento; 41 [name withheld]; 42 NY subway groper; 43 His Dishonor Brett Kavanaugh; 44 Corey Lewandowski; 45 Brooke Howard-Smith; 46 Dr. Filth McGraw; 47 Dominique Strauss-Kahn; 48 Roger Ailes; 49 Louis C.K.; 50 Geoffrey Rush; 51 Michael Douglas; 52 Bill Cosby; 53 Andy Rubin; 54 Marcelo Vanzuita; 55 Al Gore; 56 Neil deGrasse Tyson; 57 Samuel Cooper; 58 Craig Graham Wright; 59 Jeffrey Epstein; 60 Gary Glitter; 61 Michael Harris
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December 24, 2018 8:28am
- sooty
  
  Whore bogging again you little shit!
  Edit At 8.28, we will see how long you last.
  
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  December 24, 2018 8:39am
  - Harkman
    
    He’ll soon disappear ?
    
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    December 24, 2018 8:55am
- Awww C-mon
  
  Hey Window licker,
  
  Fuck Off
  
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  December 24, 2018 8:50am
- toby1845
  
  Ha, Joe Biden!
  
  Didn’t his first wife pack the kids into the family car and drive into the front of a truck at high speed? You’d have to wonder what was going on in that household.
  
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  December 24, 2018 8:55am
Ross12

Well it gets worse for CNN’s 2014 reporter of the year.
https://www.france24.com/en/20181223-spiegel-file-criminal-complaint-against-cheating-reporter
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December 24, 2018 8:34am
- lastmanstanding
  
  A reporter not reporting the truth. Well knock me down with a feather. How did that happen. But but but I thought all repeaters only told the truth!!!!!!!
  
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  December 24, 2018 9:35am
- RightFirstTime
  
  CNN…Cesspit News Network.
  
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  December 24, 2018 3:39pm
slightlyrighty

I am aware of the dangers of comparing Hitler to Trump, but when you watch the movie, Downfall, we see a beleaguered leader, having dismissed the wise counsel who might disagree with him, surrounded by sycophants, screaming orders to deal with an impending Russian threat which now seems unavoidable.
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December 24, 2018 8:34am
- Scott
  
  Well slightly righty, or should that be moderately far lefty? Trump’s decision to pull out of Syria and Afghanistan in another universe and with a media with even a modest amount of common sense, would be seen to be a sensible move. Isis is now defeated, they have no caliphate, they have no land. Afghanistan is a backward country of warring Muslim tribes that absolutely hates foreign occupation, no matter how nice you might try to be with them.
  
  So pulling out of those countries, given that the USA has spent $6 trillion on Middle East intervention and however many lives, makes a lot of sense.
  
  And it is a sad reflection on your power of reason that you compare Trump to Hitler when he is pulling out of countries rather than occupying them 🙂
  
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  December 24, 2018 9:03am
  - SGA
    
    Scott
    
    Well slightly righty, or should that be moderately far lefty?
    
    For heavens sake, Scott – just because someone doesn’t share your adoration of Trump doesn’t mean they must be far left. For a start, I don’t imagine all the people that have resigned from the White House or been sacked for not following the Trump line get together to sing the Red Flag.
    
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    December 24, 2018 9:29am
    - Scott
      
      SGA– Fair comment. My small dig at slightly righty is because I am trying to promote truth in advertising. Is slightly righty is even slightly right of centre we would have heard from him some even slightly right of centre opinions. Now he can feel free to contradict me here – but his opinions are generally left of centre.
      
      It’s a little bit like the CNN news channel. They bring in a commentator like Anne Navarro and label her a Republican commentator. This gives the appearance of balance on their panel. But she always bashes Donald Trump, bashes the Republicans and never has a good word to say about anyone on the right. So she never says a conservative thing, she never says a right of centre thing.
      
      So if someone is even slightly on the right then they should be having some right of centre opinions at some point.
      
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      December 24, 2018 9:37am
      - SGA
        
        No, I don’t buy it Scott. There are a few here, you among them, who try to demonise people with “dissenting” opinions. Sadly, it’s one of the worst characteristics of exactly the people and regimes that they claim to despise. Ironic, no?
        
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        December 24, 2018 10:01am
      - slightlyrighty
        
        I get that you would see me as being on the left, and I guess I am left of you. I would place myself as Right of Center. I am, for the record, Anti Union, Pro Euthanasia, Pro Military, Pro Charter Schools, Anti Government Regulation regarding the RMA.
        
        As far as Climate Change is concerned, I do not believe the science is settled.
        
        I believe that we have gone too far in pandering to special interest groups. The Metoo movement, the divisions of Gender and the modern interpretations of Gender, and Gender Politics seem to bee some sort of bad Monty Python Sketch.
        
        I abhor snowflakes, and despise political correctness. I believe in the Free Market and Believe that Government Intervention and Regulation distorts a market driven result.
        
        I believe that Tertiary Education Institutions, and state education in general, has been taken over to a large extent by Leftist Interest, and this is a fundamental danger that must be addressed.
        
        I believe in socialised Healthcare, which should be properly funded, but not extravagantly so, and believe that Public and Private healthcare can co-exist.
        
        I believe the 2nd Amendment in the US is a deeply flawed and misunderstood document that has no place in a modern society.
        
        I believe that the worst oppression of minorities comes from their own leaders who profit from perpetuating the myth that they are oppressed while presenting themselves as some sort of saviour. To a certain extent, we see this from Donald Trump.
        
        I believe that those I might disagree with politically, can be led by great leaders, and I believe that my political allies, can be led by cretins.
        
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        December 24, 2018 10:14am
      - GazzaW
        
        Very well said slightlyrighty and I think your beliefs are shared by a significant number of KBers and that by and large your views on domestic issues reflect the principles of the National Party.
        
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        December 24, 2018 10:24am
      - chwaga
        
        I agree Slightlyrightly. I also believe that school fees and private medical insurance premiums should be tax deductible
        
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        December 24, 2018 11:15am
      - GazzaW
        
        You are correct chwaga and in fact the government profits from both private health care and private education by way of GST on premiums and school fees.
        
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        December 24, 2018 2:10pm
  - Classic Liberal
    
    SlightlyRighty: Trump is doing what he promised the US: get out of finished or pointless wars.
    
    By the time Hitler was abandoned, the Germans were down, defeated and realised that they had been vastly wrong in following him.
    
    Trump is the exact opposite: Americans want to leave these wars. They want the wall. They appreciate the growth in employment. The fact that too many politicians and military aren’t with the people on this is not Trump’s fault.
    
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    December 24, 2018 9:34am
    - KevOB
      
      It’s either America abandon imperial ambitions and look after its home base or cease to be. They may have left it too late while China matured obscured by American hubris.
      The USA is now ungovernable. We need to be careful to not follow their example by allowing MMP to gum up government.
      
      Blessings of the Christmas season to all and an equally blessed new year.
      Jesus is the reason for the Season.
      Ia manuia le Kirisimasi ma le tausanga fou.
      
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      December 24, 2018 10:11am
  - slightlyrighty
    
    Actually, for the record, I am Pro Early intervention. If the likes of Churchill had been listened to earlier, who knows what would have happened in 1939.
    
    The roots of the 2nd World War can be traced to the end of the first, when a punitive approach to peace saddled the German People with a debt that created such ill feeling and Hardship that a continuation of the great war was predicted by many.
    
    Fortunately, this mistake was not repeated by the Western Powers at the conclusion of WW2, However, the failure of the Eastern European states can be laid at the feet of the Allied powers who sued for peace.
    
    Churchill, again was prescient there with his Iron Curtain speech, and generals such as Patton were aware of the incompatibility of Stalinist Russia and the desire for freedom among the liberated people, and the withdrawl from Eastern Europe subjected those on the wrong side of the wall to 30-40 years of tyranny, and the rest of the world to a cold war whose effects we still see today.
    
    Isis is not defeated, and believing so simply because Trump says so is blinkered thinking at best. That part of the world is a mess, and while leaving it to self destruct might be the least expensive option, the half hearted approach employed by previous administrations followed by a premature removal of forces simply leaves fertile ground for a resurgence of insurgents.
    
    It won’t end well, and Mattis has tried to warn us, just a Churchill and Patton did 70 years ago.
    
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    December 24, 2018 9:37am
    - tf78
      
      Didn’t Obama also get rid of Mattis?!
      
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      December 24, 2018 10:01am
      - Paulus
        
        Yes ! Obummer kicked him out too.
        
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        December 24, 2018 10:15am
      - slightlyrighty
        
        I find that if you have an opinion that pisses off both sides, you could be right on the money!
        
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        December 24, 2018 10:47am
    - kowtow
      
      ‘That part of the world is a mess’
      
      The problem is Islam itself.
      
      That being the case , why does the west import its adherents by the millions?
      
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      December 24, 2018 10:45am
    - Scott
      
      Slightly righty – I am happy to be corrected. I would agree with many of your positions such as anti-political correctness. I look forward to seeing your future posts.
      Regarding the situation following World War II people can say well the allies shouldn’t have withdrawn from Europe because that allowed the soviet union to set up the Iron Curtain and its various communist dictatorships. However a reading of the biographies about Churchill, including the latest one, show that Churchill was very realistic about the impossibility of doing much at all about Soviet power.
      
      The sad fact of the matter is that the Soviet union had an army of literally millions of troops in Europe at the end of World War II. It is extremely unlikely that the combined British Empire and United States forces could have dislodged them, even if they wanted to.
      
      Regarding the present day situation in Syria, the sad fact of the matter is that the region is full of bad actors. If US troops stayed there they would be likely to be sucked into the many conflicts in that region of the world.
      
      Secondly the only real question is timing. Trump is saying we’re going to pull out of Syria now and we’re pulling out of Afghanistan soon. For those who disagree the question is, when do you think the Americans should pull out of Syria and Afghanistan? Given there is no plausible endgame given by those who generally oppose Trump, the president of the United States is probably correct in thinking that if he listened to his advisers, American troops would still be there by the end of his first term and indeed by the end of his 2nd term (if he gets a 2nd term).
      
      The Americans are sick of their boys dying in endless wars. Trump is pulling out of endless foreign wars, which is what he promised on the campaign trail, and he is fulfilling that promise.
      
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      December 24, 2018 10:48am
      - slightlyrighty
        
        Yes the Soviets had a large army, but were not a nuclear power, and would not be until 1949.
        
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        December 24, 2018 11:31am
      - KevOB
        
        I believe Trump has seen the writing on the war about Syria. Isis has largely been defeated. Islam jihad will always be with us and Turkey has had to deal with the Kurds, the remnant of the Ottoman Empire. Turkey aspires to that mantle so their mutual co-existence is not easy.
        The Americans have holed up with the Kurds in the Northern 1/3 of Syria so are faced now with what to do? There have been international peace conferences taking place for months with Russia, Turkey, Syria all participating. The Americans have had their invitation too. The aim is now with Isis largely out of the way to rebuild Syria. That is reasonable considering the bombed out mess that remains.
        If the the Americans stay it seems likely that they may get caught in a Turkey-Kurd war with the possibility of firing on Russians unintentionally. Military on site may take a less than generous view.
        
        It is understood that American based corporates have already captured Syrian oil rights through occupation so the USA has little to lose by a graceful exit. Some professional warriors and their suppliers may be irritated at loss of work opportunities but peace at Christmas is good.
        
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        December 24, 2018 12:36pm
    - Ed Snack
      
      The drawback is, that to oppose ISIS, Obama chose to support with money and weapons, an array of Al Qaeda affiliates as well as perhaps the only geneuinely possibly pro-US grouping in the Middle east apart from Israel, the Kurds.
      
      ISIS doesn’t hold significant territory, and the main force preventing the last remnants being wiped out is the US led coalition who don’t want Assad (and Iran & Russia) to win.
      
      It is time to face up to an uncomfortable truth, the US policy started by Obama in Syria has basically failed; and Assad has essentially regained control of the majority of the country supported by Russia who were, as usual, far more astute. Putin basically ate Obama’s lunch as and when he wanted to, so why should Trump have to hew to this failed policy ? I believe Trump in this case is correct, declare a victory (no matter how improbable) and get out with dignity while you can.
      
      If you think the US should stay, you need to come up with a valid strategy and describe what you think might represent a real victory. Don’t use a perfectly sensible decision simply as a means to attack Trump.
      
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      December 24, 2018 11:08am
      - Scott
        
        Ed Snack – very good post and well reasoned. My only regret is that I have but one uptick to give 🙂
        
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        December 24, 2018 11:15am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        Another question is to Merkel: will you send all those ‘Syrian’ young men back now? Oh wait, a large percentage turned out not even to be Syrian…
        
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        December 24, 2018 12:43pm
- Inandout
  
  Read a little more on Hitler and you will realise this trait started way back in his career. Trump is in a different league and has legalities to contend with that Hitler never faced. Yes there is danger when comparing the two men.
  
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  December 24, 2018 9:06am
  - Paulus
    
    Trump and Hitler both from German families although Hitler was actually Austrian but little different to being a German.
    But Trump’s mother was Scottish from the Isles.
    
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    December 24, 2018 10:17am
    - Inandout
      
      Many UK residents have German heritage, hence the similarities in facial features. Hitler desperately wanted Britain to join forces with him against the Soviets.
      
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      December 24, 2018 1:44pm
- Morrissey
  
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  Trump hasn’t got a moustache.
  
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  December 24, 2018 9:18am
  - Inandout
    
    Oh I forgot Mossey, Hitler was a pedo around his nieces, and then along came Eva. But then in your mind everyone is a pedo.
    
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    December 24, 2018 9:30am
    - Morrissey
      
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      Really? That sounds like a possible “Gropers” entry. I’ll have a word to Hector.
      
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      December 24, 2018 9:33am
      - Jack5
        
        Here is the story of Angela Maria “Geli” Raubal and Uncle Adolf, who seems to have kept her captive from when she was 17 until she shot herself in Hitler’s apartment at the age of 23:
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geli_Raubal
        
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        December 24, 2018 10:29am
      - Morrissey
        
        Thanks, Jack. I actually read a book about Hitler and Geli a few years back. He was definitely a Groper. He’s on the list now.
        
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        December 24, 2018 4:12pm
      - realityczech
        
        Mozzie. Yeah those Nazi eh, but don’t forget these people.
        
        The Child-Rape Assembly Line
        
        Rabbi Nuchem Rosenberg—who is 63 with a long, graying beard—recently sat down with me to explain what he described as a “child-rape assembly line” among sects of fundamentalist Jews.
        
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        December 24, 2018 4:23pm
- kowtow
  
  Trump is right on illegal immigration.
  Anyone siding with illegal immigration is a traitor to their own country.
  
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  December 24, 2018 9:44am
  - slightlyrighty
    
    I think that Trump’s views on immigration have merit, but the wall is a waste of money.
    
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    December 24, 2018 10:50am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Whinny and Taxinda have an answer: just make it all legal!!
    
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    December 24, 2018 12:45pm
- kloyd0306
  
  No, you are not aware at all.
  Trump was elected to drain the swamp, which includes many Republicans.
  To make an omelette you have to break a few eggs.
  The omelettes are on the menu for another two years at least and hopefully for four more after that.
  
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  December 24, 2018 11:01am
sooty

Whinney of NZLast just happened to be in the hood, when the Comrade JacinDUH, called.can you pop around to the UN, for me and sign something.
Sure thing, said Whinney. I am in the area and it will help fill in time before my chrissy dinner at the Whaldof!
I hope the little dwarf chokes on it!
Yep! Kighthood around the neck (tightly).
Waka bill passed to quieten down the slaves.
Gold pension in the back pocket.
Flying pointy end for life and limo on call.
He’s out of here, you wont see his heels for dust!
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December 24, 2018 8:37am
secondcumming

Fuck I hate Xmas shopping…..

The missus was busy over the weekend packing all the stuff we need to take up to the bach at Tindals, so she gave me a list about a mile long of what to get from the Supermarket.

I headed over to New World with a color-copy of the mother-in-laws *Disability Card* on the dashboard so I could get a spot near the entrance. Bugger me, every bloody Disabled Park was full. Ended up having to park over the other side of the complex. The only consolation was, at least this time I didn’t need to get out of the car looking like a spazz.

Made my way into the store and it was absolutely chokka. Noticed a lot of Asians in the Produce Dept squeezing the fruit and putting it back, so decided I’d get the fruit and veges elsewhere. I pulled about 50 meters of those plastic bags off the roll and hid them under my free copy of the Property Press in the bottom trolley. They come in handy on the boat for any rubbish, or for picking up dog-shit off the beach.

It must have taken me at least 45 minutes to get most of the stuff on the list before heading for the checkouts. They’ve got 6 aisles there, as you might expect on the busiest fucking day of the year, two of them were closed

I end up standing in a queue of 4 other trolley loads. It take about another twenty minutes before the woman in front of me finally gets all her stuff on the conveyor and places the little block thing between us.

Just before I start to unload, I have a quick glance around at the crowd. Standing right behind me is an old lady leaning on a walking stick, clutching a loaf of sliced bread…..I ask her, “Is that all you’ve got?” She smiles and nods. I tell her, “You might me better off going to another checkout, I’m going to be quite a while”.
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December 24, 2018 8:37am
- lifesgood
  
  Bach at Tindalls? You rich prick! 🙂
  
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  December 24, 2018 8:50am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  I always get my fruit, veges and especially mushrooms from the back of the pile as the asians can’t reach that far . . . .
  
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  December 24, 2018 8:57am
  - DigNap15
    
    I hate the term asians
    What sort of asians
    Nice east asian people
    Or south east asians
    Or asians from the middle east?
    
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    December 24, 2018 9:14am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      The use of the term “Asians” shows (deliberate?) lack of precision on the part of the speaker.
      If you mean “Chinese,” then say so.
      
      It’s about as helpful as refering to “Westerners” or “Foreigners.”
      
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      December 24, 2018 10:16am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Prince Phillips asians
      
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      December 24, 2018 3:42pm
  - Classic Liberal
    
    You should always wash your fruit anyway. Of course people (including pickers and staff) have handled the fruit. Heck, I’ve put the odd piece of fruit back when it’s obviously over-ripe.
    
    Paulus: in NZ I think we mean Chinese, Koreans, Japanese mainly. People I’ve found to be good immigrants. In the UK they are very annoyed that the term ‘Asians’ is always used when a Middle Eastern terrorist causes another ‘lone wolf’ horror.
    
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    December 24, 2018 10:14am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      If you see someone who might be East Asian, take a quick look at their clothing and jewelry coloration.
      
      Japanese prefer: black, tan, white, gray, indigo. They prefer platinum over gold. (It may look like silver, but it is platinum.)
      
      If you see an East Asian wearing gold jewelry (especially a lot of it) then they are unlikely to be Japanese.
      
      Leopard or other animal prints, fake fur, and the color purple are strongly contra-indicative of a Japanese wearer.
      
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      December 24, 2018 10:25am
      - secondcumming
        
        How long since you’ve been back to *The Land of the Rising Sun*, Odakyu-sen?
        
        https://i.imgflip.com/27etro.jpg
        
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        December 24, 2018 10:43am
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        Footnote: My comments mostly cover people from Tokyo.
        
        Osakan middle-aged women can be difficult to distinguish from their Chinese or South Korean counterparts.
        
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        December 24, 2018 10:51am
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        Damn!
        
        secondcumming is on to me.
        (Looks over shoulder…)
        
        Time to change disguise!
        
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        December 24, 2018 10:52am
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        Stereotypes within Japan
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Col6RI-qkLA
        
        (I need to visit Osaka. Too much time spent in Tokyo.)
        
        Tokyo: Think “London”
        Osaka: Think “Manchester”
        
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        December 24, 2018 10:59am
    - lifesgood
      
      In the UK ‘asian’ refers to Indians and Pakistanis, not chinese, japanese etc.
      
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      December 24, 2018 10:33am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        All are ‘Asian’ in the UK, I think. But there are so many more Indians and Pakistanis there that they are what is usually meant.
        
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        December 24, 2018 11:05am
  - Inandout
    
    Asians have little hands so why worry?
    
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    December 24, 2018 1:49pm
- GazzaW
  
  Online supermarket shopping has immense advantages particularly at this time of the year. Times spent in supermarkets are hours I will never get back.
  
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  December 24, 2018 9:19am
  - Inandout
    
    Shop very early in the morning or late at night.
    
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    December 24, 2018 1:50pm
- tf78
  
  Secondcoming in the spirit of Christmas you should have swiped the old ladies loaf of bread through with your shopping and sent her on way a very happy lady.
  
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  December 24, 2018 10:08am
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Nah, told the operator, the Lady behind you is your mom who has offered to pay for the groceries as a Christmas gift…
    
    (At least that’s what I would do if I could prove she was an NZ1st or Labour supporter…)
    
    Actually, no I wouldn’t, but I have heard it’s been done before. Don’t evet get too chatty with a person in front of you, and be suspicious if they do start getting too chatty…)
    
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    December 24, 2018 11:26am
- Jules99
  
  My New World delivery arrived at 9.30 this morning. Not planning to leave the house until at least Thursday.
  
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  December 24, 2018 10:27am
- KevinH
  
  The little old lady patiently standing behind you in the queue had been silently observing you with your trolley load of snacks and was marvelling at how well trained you were for a spas to be able to go shopping by yourself. She recalled the dark old days when they locked away people like you and gave them the occasional shock treatment to quieten them down. Despite the fact that your hair was on end and you were wearing a jumpsuit with a bib, she wasn’t in the least frightened.
  Being the kind granny she is she reached over and patted you on the end saying that’s a good boy and don’t worry your mummy will be here soon.
  
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  December 24, 2018 5:41pm
  - secondcumming
    
    The ‘little old lady’ you describe Kevy was none of those things!
    I’d seen the old mole take the last Disabled Park right next to the door.
    
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    December 24, 2018 7:20pm
Paulus Gnome

I have duties tomorrow as will many others here so I will take this moment to wish all fellow travellers here the very best for Christmas and the coming New Year. I sincerely hope you enjoy your family time as that is the only really important thing in your life, take a moment and give thanks for what you have and not so much for what you want.

Thank you for the great entertainment and enlightenment during the year, I look forward to all the interactions to come!
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December 24, 2018 8:48am
- lifesgood
  
  Excellent PG, and back at you!
  
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  December 24, 2018 8:51am
- Harkman
  
  I was just going to start a post with the same. Merry Christmas all, enjoy yourselves tomorrow, charge those batteries up for 2019, we’ve got an extreme evil to fight next year.
  
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  December 24, 2018 8:57am
  - tf78
    
    I received an email from Muriel Newman (NZ Centre for Political Research) last night saying that they are ready to take up the fight on behalf of all of us next year.
    
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    December 24, 2018 10:13am
Captain Mainwaring

The fuckwit Morris Moron didn’t last as long as Notsofast, and I didn’t even get a chance to get my second report in.
There are some idiots who might as well not even come here.
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December 24, 2018 8:58am
- Morrissey
  
  Censorship can’t stop me, Cap’n.
  
  http://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2018/12/gropers-no-62-his-dishonor-clarence.html
  
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  December 24, 2018 9:17am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  And he’s reposted his crap and gone again!
  
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  December 24, 2018 10:16am
KeaRea

Merry Christmas everyone! Dpf thanks for not banning me and sorry for my negative themes. Hopefully im completely wrong about everything. Hope everyone has an awesome day. That is all.
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December 24, 2018 9:03am
- EAD_THREE
  
  Merry Yule to you Kearea,
  
  You and UpandComer have been breathes of fresh air on this blog in 2018.
  
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  December 24, 2018 9:07am
EAD_THREE

There seems to be a growing consensus that the Big One is coming in 2019.

Much worse than 1929.

It’s not just Zerohedge claiming it now. It’s the New York Times.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjbv9Dc37bfAhXRUhUIHacoBUIQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2018%2F12%2F10%2Fstyle%2F2019-financial-crisis.html&psig=AOvVaw1Mr31s5kUlzSfoHESgWiNE&ust=1545681846906525
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December 24, 2018 9:04am
Harkman

Recycling! Many years ago Penn and Teller had a TV series called ‘Bullsh*t” and in one episode they showed how in leftist California, people have to put out 7/8 different recycling bins. Anyhow they looked into the economics of the industry and it is only profitable to reuse the metals. So why don’t we just burn/incinerate everything else? The things we put out in our yellow bins can’t be recycled and they have to pay people to remove it or it stuffs the machines (apparently a common occurrence), making it even less economic when investigated.
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December 24, 2018 9:07am
- DigNap15
  
  Yes I have always thought that most “recclying” is a joke.
  Far more expensive to collect, clean and process it than it is to buy new.
  We have plenty of valleys here in NZ for landfills for the next thousand years!
  
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  December 24, 2018 9:17am
- kevn
  
  @Hark… Yes, it is just being moved from one place to another.
  Sweden has the most efficient rubbish burning/power generation clean system ever. It is so good they import rubbish to burn.
  I did send the link to sage the green whatever. Just got a stock reply.
  The solution is here right here now. Just needs a government with vision.
  
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  December 24, 2018 9:18am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    “Just needs a government with vision.”
    
    And that’s not the one we have at present.
    
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    December 24, 2018 9:26am
    - Morrissey
      
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      We had one under the Gripper and the Dipper, did we, Cap’n?
      
      You silly old fool.
      
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      December 24, 2018 9:58am
  - cmm
    
    Our morons wanted to build one on the West coast.
    
    That would mean that you’d burn a whole lot of fuel transporting the waste to be burned.
    
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    December 24, 2018 9:34am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Huntly is the place. The furnaces are already there and the rubbish can be brought from all over the country by electric-powered trains.
      
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      December 24, 2018 9:39am
      - Viking2
        
        Guess what or who?
        
        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=15021
        
        then this.
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/109411303/bold-new-waste-energy-plant-concept-proposed-for-huntly
        
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        December 24, 2018 10:27am
    - cmm
      
      Whether or not that is possible will depend on the design of the Huntley furnaces.
      
      They don’t just burn piles of coal. They first grind the coal into powder and blow it into the furnace. If you watch the flames you would swear they’re burning gas.
      
      To switch fuels to waste is a non-trivial engineering exercise and will depend on the actual design.
      
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      December 24, 2018 11:06am
      - KevOB
        
        Ennerkem, Canada, are already economically converting waste to energy following from from Andreas patents.
        
        https://enerkem.com/
        
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        December 24, 2018 1:32pm
      - cmm
        
        Enerkem seem to also suck the taxpayer tit quite hard too, so I’m not too sure about “economically”.
        
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        December 24, 2018 1:41pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Add a waste incinerator, plumb into existing steam turbines + flue treatment and chimney.
        
        Better still barge to offshore island facility with grid connection.
        
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        December 24, 2018 2:52pm
- cmm
  
  It’s all feelz, not facts.
  
  Same with the plastic bag scam. 99.9% of the eco-footprint of shopping is the crap you buy and put in the bag – not the bag, but now people feel all eco-smug because they are not using a bag!
  
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  December 24, 2018 9:33am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Even better, the “reusable” alternatives actually have a bigger environmental footprint. But who cares when virtue signalling not environmental protection is the intention ?
    
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    December 24, 2018 11:17am
Scooter

Wow did the PM just say in the Herald she wants her daughter to be brutalised? Maybe she doesn’t even know the meaning of the word.

I would like her to be brutalised through repeat runs of Mariah Carey’s All I Want for Christmas, as I was as a teenager. Over, and over, and over again. It was something I loathed as a child but now I view quite fondly.
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December 24, 2018 9:11am
- lifesgood
  
  What a despicable mother. Fancy wanting her child to be brutalised and to make her listen to Mariah Carey is even worse.
  
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  December 24, 2018 10:37am
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Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Post of the day so far,

The Trump Train Wreck and shambles continues

‘A rogue presidency’: The era of containing Donald Trump is over

ANALYSIS: “ For two years, they tried to tutor and confine him. They taught him history, explained nuances and gamed out reverberations. They urged careful deliberation, counselled restraint and prepared talking points to try to sell mainstream actions to a restive conservative base hungry for disruption. But in the end, they failed.
For US President Donald Trump, the era of containment is over.

One by one, the seasoned advisers seen as bulwarks against Trump’s most reckless impulses have been cast aside or, as Defence Secretary Jim Mattis did last week, resigned in an extraordinary act of protest. What Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Corker once dubbed an “adult day care centre” has gone out of business.

Trump will enter his third year as president unbound – at war with his perceived enemies, determined to follow through on the hard-line promises of his insurgent campaign and fearful of any cleavage in his political coalition….”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/donald-trumps-america/109571577/a-rogue-presidency-the-era-of-containing-donald-trump-is-over

Otherwise Merry Christmas everyone.
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December 24, 2018 9:19am
- stigie
  
  A very merry christmas to your goats Stiffy !~
  
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  December 24, 2018 9:23am
- kevn
  
  A poor septicboy effort complete with link as per Hugh.
  
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  December 24, 2018 9:23am
- holysheet
  
  Reporter: “Excuse me, may I interview you?”
  Stooopidboy: “Yes!”
  Reporter: “Name?”
  Stooopidboy: “Abdul Ralph Al-Taylor.”
  Reporter: “Sex?”
  Stooopidboy: “Three to five times a week.”
  Reporter: “No no! I mean male or female?”
  Stooopidboy: “Yes, male, female… sometimes camel.”
  Reporter: “Holy cow!”
  Stooopidboy: “Yes, cow, goat… animals in general.”
  Reporter: “But isn’t that hostile?”
  Stooopidboy: “Yes, horse style, dog style, any style.”
  Reporter: “Oh dear!”
  Stooopidboy: “No, no deer. Deer run too fast. Hard to catch.”
  
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  December 24, 2018 9:30am
- Jules99
  
  A thinly veiled propaganda piece by the deep state to justify the assassination of a democratically elected leader – look at how many commenters were triggered.
  
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  December 24, 2018 10:31am
- Ed Snack
  
  Amazing, and when Obama’s last 3 defense secretaries resigned after and average of around 700 days (Mattis will serve 698) who got so hot and bothered ? And Obama was responsible for the debacles of Libya, Syrian “red lines”, the Iraq regression, amongst others. It would seem that if anyone needed an adult supervisor, it was Obama ?
  
  Oh, and Mattis was also summarily fired by Obama, queue outrage in 3, 2, 1, …
  
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  December 24, 2018 11:21am
kevn

@Scooter… Maybe JA should have thought a bit harder before her and whinney got conned by the UN migration bullsh*t.
Sorry NZ.
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December 24, 2018 9:20am
waikatogirl

Merry Christmas to everyone.
May Santa bring you a little surprise, and your families the joy only they can.
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December 24, 2018 9:21am
- Harkman
  
  You too WG ?☝?
  
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  December 24, 2018 9:25am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Thanks, but haven’t we had enough surprises this year?
  
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  December 24, 2018 4:18pm
Harkman

While I’m on the topic of recycling a friend of mine sent me a pic yesterday of a piece of paper he picked up out on the street. He was outside and it was yellow bin night in Chch and he walked out to the road to put an empty milk container in his bin and there was his neighbour chucking scores of loose sheets into his bin, but it was gusting and a few blew away on him, so my friend, which the paper blew towards bent down and picked them up for him and he glanced at the contents and was titled, “The importance of relationships with Maori and Pacifika students.” He quickly kept this sheet but handed two other bits back to his late 30s neighbour, who was embarrassed. Anyway, making comment with his neighbour “That’s alot of paper”etc and his neighbour told him that was just this year’s teaching curriculum and that he was sick of all the nonsense and was changing careers next year. It really is worse than we think.
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December 24, 2018 9:24am
- Sacha
  
  If teachers stuck to teaching instead of trying to manipulate society they might be happier. I think I would be happier knowing that I had taught my class how to – oh, write well constructed sentences – than have waffly sessions on Maori /Pacifika relationships.
  Why don’t teachers simply tell their students to get on with their learning, mind their manners, live and let live, etc?
  As a profession they seem to have been distracted from their key role.
  
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  December 24, 2018 9:46am
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    waffly sessions on Maori /Pacifika [sic] relationships.
    
    “Waffly”? How so?
    
    Why don’t teachers simply tell their students to get on with their learning, mind their manners, live and let live, etc?
    
    They do. Every day. Learning something about Maori/Pasifika/Pakeha culture is part of that. Not the only thing, but an important component.
    
    As a profession they seem to have been distracted from their key role.
    
    No they haven’t.
    
    How much do you know about the teaching profession, I wonder?
    
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    December 24, 2018 9:56am
    - KevOB
      
      You don’t aspire to be a teacher do you?
      
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      December 24, 2018 1:35pm
    - Jack5
      
      “…sessions on Maori /Pacifika [sic] relationships.”
      
      That’s politics. Not maths, grammar, spelling.
      
      The Left has turned the NZ public education system into an indoctrination machine. Teachers by themselves have introduced compulsory learning of Maori language, but most teachers are ignorant in mathematics and slow in general language skills. They want to teach Maori but can’t teach English, currently the world’s premier language.
      
      The answer is more non-State schools, and more choice for parents.
      
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      December 24, 2018 1:39pm
      - Morrissey
        
        And what the hell is the function of ANZAC-themed assemblies, lining up like soldiers, regimented sports training, and school uniforms?
        
        The fact is, Jack, everything is political. Your comment about “The Left” as an “indoctrination machine” is risible. Why should teachers blindly enforce the status quo like they’re required to do in the U.S. and North Korea?
        
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        December 24, 2018 4:09pm
      - realityczech
        
        Jacksie, don’t you accept the right of Maori to exist in their homeland?
        
        If you don’t like it you can go back home. You won’t be missed.
        
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        December 24, 2018 4:27pm
lastmanstanding

Dear Santa

My Christmas wishes are as follows;

1. Senior members of the Labour Party are forced to resign in a major scandal.
2. The COL collapses as a result.
3. A general election is called.
4. The Nats win 51% of the vote.
5. They cancel all 206 plus working group et al.
6. They get on with governing the country for all the people not just selected groups.
Yours
LMS

And to all KBers including my sparing partners may I wish you a Merry Christmas to you and your families. Drive safe.

Don’t eat or drink too much……………leave that to me.
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December 24, 2018 9:27am
- DigNap15
  
  I hope your Xmas wishes all come true!
  
  And 7
  
  Reverse most of the measures the COL implemented.
  
  And 8
  Double down on many of them
  
  Eg make union membership illegal
  Make it two strikes and you are in
  Build more jails
  Start Cutting back on WFF
  Start Cutting back on accom0dation allowance
  
  And
  Stop all Indian students coming here and send most of them back
  Stop Third world immigrants coming here.
  
  Build more major roads – dual carriageway
  
  Make councils remove all bus lanes and cycle lane at the councilors and staff expense
  
  End all government funding for the news media.
  
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  December 24, 2018 10:36am
secondcumming

I see in the Herald this morning a local barber in our area just got arrested for selling drugs.

Blew my mind. I’ve been his customer for years. I had no idea he was a barber.

[AND A MERRY XMAS & HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL ON KB! 😎 ]
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December 24, 2018 9:29am
- holysheet
  
  You new years resolution is to learn to read between the lines and to recognise a lawnmower when you see one.
  
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  December 24, 2018 9:36am
Inandout

OMG, Trump woke up breathing.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=12181922
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December 24, 2018 9:33am
Niz

The police thank the two people arrested in relation to the Gatwick drone incident for their cooperation.
They make it sound like they were just a couple of helpful citizens.
THEY WERE ARRESTED!
They’ve been released because the police worked out that didn’t do it.
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December 24, 2018 9:39am
- Inandout
  
  Niz, meanwhile the real offenders have disappeared into the darkness of Rotheram?
  
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  December 24, 2018 9:45am
  - Jack5
    
    Seems there likely was no drone at all.
    
    And these are the guys standing between Britain and ISIS.
    
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6524457/Police-continue-quiz-double-glazing-worker-Gatwick-drone.html
    
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    December 24, 2018 10:05am
    - realityczech
      
      The ISIS threat is another hoax dimwit. Just as the threat of Jews in Nazi Germany was. Or was it?
      
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      December 24, 2018 12:16pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Can you show us on the dolly where the nasty Jew touched you?
        
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        December 24, 2018 3:03pm
      - realityczech
        
        Sure, once you show me where the nasty Moooosleeem touched you?
        
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        December 24, 2018 3:39pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    No, now the Police are admitting that it is possible there was never a drone in the first place; what a clusterf*ck!
    
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    December 24, 2018 10:11am
    - Steve (North Shore)
      
      If there was a custom made drone, the Police should have let the local drone owners try to find it. But no, sounds like they were not allowed. Dad’s Army stuff.
      
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      December 24, 2018 3:14pm
    - tavita
      
      Very strange since elsewhere it is described as flying in a way that suggested that the owner was familiar with the airport, and buzzing the comtrol tower close enough for people to describe it in sufficient detail for them to ascertain the make. What is more likely is that once a drone had been reported there were many reports some of which were false or imagined and this has made the job of tracking the source more difficult.
      
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      December 24, 2018 4:31pm
      - KevOB
        
        Mr Plod (UK) is not very bright. I knew instantly when I read the age of the couple arrested that Mr Plod was wrong.
        
        This whole business is weird.
        
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        December 24, 2018 5:28pm
  - Jack5
    
    The head of the police’s first name is Jason. Mmm.
    
    And he looks so embarrassed.
    
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    December 24, 2018 10:19am
    - realityczech
      
      These are the same police who think anti semitism and islamaphobia are real things too.
      
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      December 24, 2018 12:23pm
      - Classic Liberal
        
        The first is racist. The second is criticism of an ideology.
        
        You’ll never understand the important difference.
        
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        December 24, 2018 12:56pm
      - Jack5
        
        ❗❗?Kea❗realityczech is showing symptoms of parrot fever – pstittacosis. Here we see a newly recognised symptom – susceptibility to conspiracy theories. ?
        
        Merry Christmas, old bird! May your disorder be non-hereditary!
        
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        December 24, 2018 1:49pm
      - realityczech
        
        Classic, wow I see what you did there. Even the defenders of that vile desert cult of Judaism, resort to lies, deceit and trickery.
        
        Jews are NOT a race. They are a tribal religious cult. The “race” is European, if you must pick one.
        
        https://phys.org/news/2018-09-ashkenazic-jews-mysterious-unravelled-scientists.html
        
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        December 24, 2018 3:43pm
- peterwn
  
  Seems UK Police arrest first then ask questions later, unlike NZ Police.
  
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  December 24, 2018 10:07am
  - marcw
    
    I believe it is the law there – you can’t hold for questioning without arresting. We seem to work in the alternative order, which seems fairer and with less paperwork.
    
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    December 24, 2018 10:09am
    - MCos
      
      So why do the poms release their names, which as far as the tabloids are concerned is guilty, particularly if you are of a certain ethnicity/religion.
      Even worse in the States where they drag you off in handcuffs.
      
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      December 24, 2018 10:19am
      - marcw
        
        By releasing their names all those who had alibi’s for the couple were able to immediately come forward. The process was cut much shorter, and the couple were able to be sent home much earlier than otherwise. So far as the tabloids go, well they have their Stuffed and Horrid shrills the same (or even worse probably) as here. We can’t account for the taste of those that subscribe sorry.
        
        If the names had been suppressed, they may still have been in a cell waiting for everyone to wake up.
        
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        December 24, 2018 2:30pm
      - MCos
        
        Isn’t there something in the law about innocent until proven guilty.
        
        Surely you can’t just go locking people up on a hunch otherwise they could lock up every drone owner in the area and sit back and see what happens.
        In this particular instance they must have had a reason to suspect them. Whatever it was was extremely flimsy seeing as they’re not even sure the offending drones even existed.
        
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        December 24, 2018 5:36pm
Sofia

UN Immigration Compact
The Australian government claims there is no distinction between legal and illegal migrants, particularly regarding welfare; the compact could impose obligations to support migrants even when they have returned to their country of origin; and the Australian government believes that the compact would undermine their current migration policies.

The Australian people and New Zealand have historically and culturally been said to be closely related.

So New Zealand has signed the Compact but Australia has not.
Can Winston explain that – not with some glib throwaway line, but a convincing reason for the difference.
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December 24, 2018 9:51am
- stigie
  
  “NO”
  
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  December 24, 2018 9:54am
- Jack5
  
  The explanation is that Peters wants to be Sir Judas.
  
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  December 24, 2018 10:20am
  - calendar girl
    
    I myself would gladly bestow Peters’ knighthood if a binding condition was that he would be known officially, and forever, as Sir Judas Peters.
    
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    December 24, 2018 4:03pm
- Justitia
  
  Winston gave his response a few days ago. He said those had issues with the UN Migration Compact were “alt-right”. So there you have it, right from the horse’s arse. His comment has gone down like a bucket of cold spew with his (erstwhile) faithful.
  
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  December 24, 2018 11:12am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    “He said those had issues with the UN Migration Compact were ‘alt-right'”.
    
    I guess the Chinese government is alt-right.
    Who knew!
    
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    December 24, 2018 6:11pm
- tavita
  
  Whatever else it does, it will certainly further restrict free movement between aus and nz.
  
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  December 24, 2018 12:40pm
Hugh Pavletich

Sydney property prices are crashing – MacroBusiness Australia
… behind paywall …

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/12/sydney-property-prices-crashing/

By Leith van Onselen

It’s been a black December for Sydney property. With 8 days still left in the month, Sydney dwelling values have fallen a whopping 1.5% in December, according to CoreLogic – the biggest monthly decline since October 1986:

The quarterly decline has steepened to 3.8% – the largest fall since January 1985: … read more via hyperlink above …
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December 24, 2018 10:01am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  Apartment market faces years of implosion – MacroBusiness Australia
  
  https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/12/apartment-market-faces-years-implosion/
  
  Plenty of hand-wringing for the apartment bust today as the year ends, via the AFR:… read more via hyperlink above …
  
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  December 24, 2018 11:54am
  - starboard
    
    Here ya go Hugh..
    “Of Interest- NZ Vs Australia: A Property
    Comparison
    With house prices now falling significantly in
    Australia, the inevitable question is beginning to
    arise: “will the downturn spread across to NZ?”
    Here are 3 reasons that it won’t:
    First, NZ does not generally have an oversupply of
    property of any type or in any region. Indeed, our
    largest city of Auckland has the opposite problem:
    a large shortfall of housing, which is propping up
    values even though property is relatively
    unaffordable in our biggest city. By contrast, it is
    widely accepted that there are too many
    apartments in Sydney and Melbourne, and this is
    dragging down prices. So-called settlement risk
    (where a buyer who purchased off the plans some
    time earlier suddenly walks away from the
    transaction) is a growing problem for some of these
    large-scale developments.
    Second, NZ is yet to see the same increases to
    mortgage rates that other countries are seeing,
    including Australia. In fact, although there are now
    signs that it might be ending, the banks here have
    recently engaged in a “rate war” with borrowers
    enjoying some pretty sharp fixed-rate deals in
    recent weeks. On a related point, about 80% of
    mortgage debt is on fixed interest rates in NZ,
    giving borrowers time to adjust their finances in
    advance of an interest rate increase being pushed
    through to their mortgage.
    
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    December 24, 2018 12:54pm
  - starboard
    
    Whoops..third point. All from a reliable source, unlike your good self, Hugh.
    
    “Third, NZ’s regulators have arguably been much
    more proactive than Australia’s in curbing the riskiest
    lending practices. Interest-only lending is more
    controlled in NZ, and it’s also easy to forget that
    we’ve actually had the LVR restrictions (in one form
    or another) here for five years now. This has put our
    mortgage market on a surer footing than Australia’s.
    To be fair, none of this precludes a housing market
    downturn here in NZ at some stage in the future. But
    for now, and with the labour market a huge support
    for property, we’re confident that Australia’s
    problems won’t be replicated in New Zealand for the
    foreseeable future.”
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    December 24, 2018 12:57pm
    - sooty
      
      Hugh, will be filthy at you taking his thunder!
      He posts here all year and what does get.
      Downticked is what he gets.
      Even Twitford does not listern to him.
      Nz is a better place, because no one listerns to hugh!
      
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      December 24, 2018 2:10pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Starboard … Don’t forget grossly undersupplied California, which ‘blew’ in 2007 … as Leith van Onsolen of MacroBusiness Au illustrated last week (behind paywall) …
        
        Auckland Council: house prices won’t follow Sydney/Melbourne down … MacroBusiness Australia
        
        https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/12/auckland-council-house-prices-wont-follow-sydneymelbourne/
        
        … and I discussed back in 2010 …
        
        Housing Bubbles: Jumbo Mortgages = Jumbo Problems | Scoop News
        
        http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO1003/S00019.htm
        
        I posted on the Irish 07 events (again) recently …
        
        https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/12/deutsche-australian-property-crash-like-ireland/#comment-3240973
        
        Starboard … it is the ‘multiple stretch’ (in both price and lending terms) that are the problems.
        
        Note what various dwelling types should be, to be ‘affordable’ …
        
        http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/affordability.html
        
        I briefly touched on aspects of the current Aussie contagion on Stuff back late October as well …
        
        Falling Australian house prices a warning for NZ: commentator … Catherine Harris … Stuff NZ
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/property/108168646/falling-australian-house-prices-a-warning-for-nz-commentator
        
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        December 24, 2018 2:21pm
      - starboard
        
        Hugh quoting from Stuff. Pleeeease !! All of their repeaters are children.
        
        Right, off to the airport..groooan.
        
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        December 24, 2018 2:59pm
MCos

I see those people that were arrested for flying drones around Gatwick Airport have been let loose again.
Not only that the police let slip that there may never have been any drones. This seems extraordinary.
If anyone wonders why name suppression isn’t such a bad precaution early on in proceedings here is evidence.
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December 24, 2018 10:01am
- Inandout
  
  Why? Those two will now be famous on TV shows.
  
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  December 24, 2018 10:05am
  - MCos
    
    Most people prefer a quiet life, except Americans who seem to have prepared their whole life for their five minutes of fame on some talk show.
    
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    December 24, 2018 10:25am
EAD_THREE

testing….
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December 24, 2018 10:03am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  test~~ing….~~e
  
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  December 24, 2018 9:28pm
Manolo

Today’s violent Brazil:
https://www.bloombergquint.com/law-and-policy/license-to-kill-policing-to-get-a-trial-run-in-rio-de-janeiro#gs.iIu2udY

Teams of marksmen next year will patrol swaths of Rio de Janeiro with high-powered weapons and a license to kill, said a security adviser to Governor-elect Wilson Witzel.

As many as 120 sharpshooters will accompany police incursions into the slums of Brazil’s postcard city to exterminate gun-toting criminals. The shooters will work in pairs — one to pull the trigger, one to monitor conditions and videotape deaths.
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December 24, 2018 10:07am
- DigNap15
  
  We should do this in some parts of NZ.
  
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  December 24, 2018 10:28am
kowtow

Yet another natural disaster in Indonesia.

Warning buoys , not working due to theft , vandalism or lack of maintenance……

How much foreign “aid” in disaster prevention was pocketed by corrupt officials ?

……media interview numerous expat Red Cross / NGO workers ( in a country with a huge military budget ,why do they have expat charity workers)

So despite massive costs and interventions locally in Indonesia they can’t tell you a wave is about to ruin your weekend , while globally how much is being stolen by gubmints in taxes pretending to go to stopping the temperature rising .

Surely the UN and politicians would be better employed trying to create civil society in those shit holes instead of telling us not to use plastic bags at the check out ?
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December 24, 2018 10:09am
- VicParking
  
  I wonder what the National Religion of Indonesia is ??
  
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  December 24, 2018 10:35am
- Jules99
  
  I’ve heard that the buoys aren’t that reliable a warning system even when they are in full working order. Especially when you are near the quake that caused it.
  
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  December 24, 2018 10:37am
  - Ed Snack
    
    This is a true comment, even if the buoys were in full working order, the warnings would have been probably too short to have been much use. Anak Krakatau (the volcanic island that has appeared in the caldera of what was the island of Krakatoa) is a very short distance from the affected sites on Java and Sumatra, and Tsunami waves travel very fast in deep water.
    
    Would better than nothing of course, especially for sites further away.
    
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    December 24, 2018 11:29am
  - cmm
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12181903
    
    The mean tsunami struck without warning.
    
    Well duh, you get no warning from a tsunami that is caused by something just below your feet.
    
    Early warning systems only work for distant tsunami events
    
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    December 24, 2018 12:07pm
- MCos
  
  Every year in Australia & NZ natural disasters cause havac in the same old places too.
  
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  December 24, 2018 10:59am
- howitis
  
  A quick look at al Jizzera last night 11pm ‘news’.
  It had a rag head reporter spluttering on, complaining about how the US Govt shutdown meant there was no-one there in the USA to monitor and provide advice to the great, wonderful, and caring, peaceful mooslems of Indonesia.
  So it was the USA’s fault there was no information and ongoing monitoring!
  The five times a day carpet munchers of Qatar were whinging that the Great and Evil Infidels of U. Satan. A. were not at work to provide warning for the five times a day carpet munchers of Indonesia.
  
  Oh the irony.
  I had a chuckle. This great nation of Qatar spent over USD 2 billion dollars in the first two years of the attack in Syria on the legitimate government. They continued funding the uprising in another sovereign state and use their Al Jizzera to jizz all over the world with lies and truth contortions.
  
  The bastards have no friends and yet the soccer world goes to this over-cooked shit hole for the 2022 FIFA world cup because FIFA top dogs (and dogs they are, in the basest sense) took bribes to host the event there.
  
  Perhaps they could have spent some of that bribery and insurgency dosh on some monitoring equip for their moozlem cousies in Indonesia ! Ah, silly me.
  
  I did not watch much of it for the fear of being tainted. All Jizz TV is almost 100% propaganda from this Absolute Monarchy run by an Emir, with zero democracy, under Sharia Law.
  I poured a drink -which I could not do in Qatar – and changed channels.
  
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  December 24, 2018 11:26am
  - tavita
    
    On the contrary, the sports bar in the basement of the Doha Sheriton serves a great range of alcoholic beverages.
    
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    December 24, 2018 12:48pm
Steve (North Shore)

…and in other news, Santa’s Elves have joined the EPMU union and gone on strike. Trouble started when Santa reminded them he could not guarantee work beyond the 25th… so a small band of trouble-makers joined the Elves, Pixies, Munchkins, Union where they were promptly told to go on strike until all demands were met.
Severe disruptions are now to be expected with Global Parcel deliveries as a result.
“No strikes on my watch”
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December 24, 2018 10:18am
tf78

Wishing you and your families a very happy Christmas and a very healthy and prosperous 2019. God bless you all.

Let’s make New Zealand great again!!!
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December 24, 2018 10:28am
Maggy Wassilieff

It’s P..ing down in Gizzy, so may as well start the annual piroshki cook-up today.
They will be eaten tomorrow afternoon when we plan to crash the neighbour’s festivities and introduce the gathering to Russia’s secret weapons.
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December 24, 2018 10:28am
- Don the Kiwi
  
  Why Maggy? Do they make you fart a lot? 😉
  
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  December 24, 2018 11:13am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I follow the father-in-law’s recipe:
    filling of very stewed chopped cabbage, finely chopped sweated onion, and chopped hard-boiled egg….. wrapped in an eggy, fatty bread dough.
    
    After 24 hours the filling seems to be a fermented mix of thiols and methane…. pretty explosive stuff, but ever so tasty.
    
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    December 24, 2018 11:48am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Sounds lethal Maggy.
      ‘Fermenting’ happy mischief! ?
      Asparagus will have the same result and is much less work.
      Merry Christmas to you and thank you for your interesting comments on KB.
      
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      December 24, 2018 12:53pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Did you say “piroshki”?
  (I feel some Polish memes coming on…)
  Ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf_KCVA9JXE
  
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  December 24, 2018 3:23pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Nyet!!!!
    
    Piroshki /Пирожки are Russian.
    
    Poles have Pierogi – boiled dumpling/ravioli type pies…….
    Russians call these Pelmeni or vareniki if sweet
    
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    December 24, 2018 3:48pm
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      Piroshki
      Pierogi
      Pierogi …
      
      So much foreign culture to learn.
      
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      December 24, 2018 6:13pm
BananaLlama

If you want a good laugh go look at NZFirsts face book page.
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December 24, 2018 10:35am
- DigNap15
  
  I just did
  and I sent them an email about the open slather immigration policy!
  And why I dislike them intensley!
  
  PS I did not vote for them
  
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  December 24, 2018 11:20am
Keeping Stock

I’m about to log off for Christmas, and spend some time dealing with people face to face, which is one thing I don’t particularly enjoy!

I wish everyone on Kiwiblog, and especially DPF and his family the most blessed Christmas, and a successful and prosperous 2019. However you celebrate Christmas, and whatever you believe, take some time to reflect on the year that’s almost over. I’m certainly finishing the year in a far better place than I began it, and for now, the Black Dog is back in his kennel.

Merry Christmas Kiwibloggers!
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December 24, 2018 10:44am
- Awww C-mon
  
  Merry Christmas KS.
  
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  December 24, 2018 10:54am
- Manolo
  
  KS, all the best for you and family.
  
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  December 24, 2018 11:04am
- mandk
  
  Thank you KS.
  
  I hope the Black Dog stays in its kennel.
  
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  December 24, 2018 11:08am
- Poppa
  
  And to you KS
  
  Thank you for all of your very good comments
  
  Cheers Poppa
  
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  December 24, 2018 11:34am
- waikatogirl
  
  Merry Christmas KS. I have enjoyed your political insights. Plenty more to get your teeth into next year…
  
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  December 24, 2018 12:56pm
- Monique Watson
  
  Merry Christmas KS. I hope you have a wonderful time with your family.
  
  I totally relate re finishing the year in a far better place. That bloody Black Dog sure hounded me this year.
  
  I’m blessed to have a wonderful husband who is a Prince. I’ve learned the true meaning of Enduring Love and a lack of judgement. From family, friends and community. It lasts across time and distance. It doesn’t make the painful times less painful but instills an overwhelming sense of humility and gratitude, without which I wouldn’t be pulling through.
  
  Best wishes,
  
  M
  
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  December 24, 2018 2:11pm
- lofty
  
  Merry Christmas mate.
  Enjoy
  
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  December 24, 2018 2:14pm
Jack5

Merry Christmas, KS, and to all Kiwiblog scribbers.
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December 24, 2018 11:22am
- Jack5
  
  Edit: Kiwiblog scribblers.
  
  Looks like the edit function is taking a Christmas break. Or maybe just when you have to re-logon.
  
  Have a good one, folk, and also the mountain parrot. ?
  
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  December 24, 2018 11:24am
Ed Snack

And from me also, Merry Christmas to all and sundry, regardless of any differences in opinion.
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December 24, 2018 11:32am
- RF
  
  Same here KS.
  
  Stay safe. I enjoy your comments…..
  
  Merry Xmas to our host and the fine people who contribute to this blog….
  
  A pox on the COL.
  
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  December 24, 2018 1:56pm
mandk

My Christian brothers and sisters (and, perhaps, some others) might enjoy this as part of their holiday viewing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtdjOUWW520

Regardless, I wish every single Kiwiblogger a joyous holiday time.
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December 24, 2018 11:50am
Swifty

Merry Christmas to you all from the Avondale Spud (and Chilli) Farm.

The spud harvest exceeded expectations this year – and the peppers are now well underway – and we have our fingers crossed that blight and other nasties can be kept at bay.

Great to see that the CoL have finished the year looking just as shaky as they did at the beginning.

My best wishes to you.

Swifty.
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December 24, 2018 12:12pm
realityczech

The revelation of the Gatwick Drone Hoax demonstrates just how easily low information intellectual cripples are influenced by media and group think. I note there are many right here on KB.

They are the same type who buy into fake climate change, persecution of various cultures/religions (while promoting fake problems like anti-semitism and islamaphobia) and every single large scale attrocity committed by humans. All because of a desperate need for group approval and identity.

Those we saw ranting on KB about the government having to “do something” represent the lowest expression of human nature.

Idiots.
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December 24, 2018 12:21pm
sooty

The COL IS THE MOST CORRUPT GOVERMENT
NZ HAS EVERY KNOWN!
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December 24, 2018 12:26pm
- realityczech
  
  We ain’t seen nothing yet. You just wait.
  
  At present we have a cone of silence enforced by media contacts, police, SIS and the Hells Angels.
  
  That is a very complicated house of cards and the whole edifice could collapse.
  
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  December 24, 2018 12:29pm
- stephieboy
  
  sooty, really!
  
  How so?
  
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  December 24, 2018 2:18pm
Pharmachick

Merry Christmas Kiwibloggers. If it makes you feel better no snow for us in YVR this year, almost as much rain as Waihi.

Wishing you all a happy, healthy and prosperous 2019
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December 24, 2018 12:37pm
DigNap15

Merry Xmas to you all from DigNap15 (even Stephie Boy)
But not to Ardern and Peters.

And thanks you David for running this great blog to which we can all contribute.
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December 24, 2018 12:44pm
nasska

As of late our “comments edit” function has been a bit flaky & Jack5 above has indicated that it may have disappeared. Regrettably our host may not be able to do anything about it.

…..”This plugin hasn’t been tested with the latest 3 major releases of WordPress. It may no longer be maintained or supported and may have compatibility issues when used with more recent versions of WordPress.”…..

https://wordpress.org/plugins/edit-comments/#description
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December 24, 2018 1:05pm
cmm

Peak Obama has come and gone

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12181934

Apparently her book is a dud.

Doesn’t look like they’re destined to be the Black Clintons.
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December 24, 2018 1:12pm
- stephieboy
  
  cmm , I suppose much like the President’s business flops like Trump The Game, Trump Steaks and so on …
  
  https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/donald-trump-worst-business-deals.html/
  
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  December 24, 2018 2:10pm
  - cmm
    
    stephie you’d give your left ball for one percent of the successes Trump has had.
    
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    December 24, 2018 3:52pm
- sooty
  
  Will the book be on special at the wharehouse. Buy one get a whole box free?
  
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  December 24, 2018 2:16pm
- dime
  
  does michelles book have a chapter on when she decided to transition?
  
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  December 24, 2018 3:04pm
- Inandout
  
  If you go to Oregon you can get a seat:
  
  https://www1.ticketmaster.com/event/0F00558AC6F44F83
  
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  December 24, 2018 3:45pm
Awww C-mon

Ol’ mate the window licker been complaining about you RW bastards at the strandard..

https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-24-12-2018/#comment-1565213

Didn’t mention me which is a bit disappointing. I need to work harder obviously
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December 24, 2018 1:14pm
- Monique Watson
  
  Hahaha! Better to be talked about than not talked about. Right?
  
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  December 24, 2018 1:38pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I notice Morrissey didn’t tell all the Standardista’s that he had invited you around to his place.
    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/12/general_debate_24_december_2018.html/comment-page-1#comment-2389949
    Typical lefty – slags off folks in public, but privately, prefers their company.
    
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    December 24, 2018 1:59pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
      MW, always a trendsetter in terms of setting standards in terms of moral and ethical behaviour.
      
      Yeah right!
      
      https://www.desmogblog.com/anthony-watts
      
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      December 24, 2018 2:14pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Stephie-perv,
        
        living Monday to Saturday what he preaches Sunday…. yeah right.
        
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        December 24, 2018 2:21pm
      - pentwig
        
        you really are a hateful thing stoopidthing
        I am very grateful I do not know you as I suspect you have the face and personality that one would just love to punch
        sigh
        Merry Xmas and have a joyous time KB’ers
        Maggie a special X for rarking up stoopidthing so expertly.
        Excellent.
        
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        December 24, 2018 2:34pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @stephieboy
        
        still stalking me?
        Nothing to do on Christmas Eve, eh?
        
        Try some reading, instead.
        
        https://openlibrary.org/works/OL2460225W/The_goat_or_Who_is_Sylvia
        
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        December 24, 2018 3:12pm
    - Monique Watson
      
      Merry Christmas Maggy 🙂 I Think I’ll decline the dough boy’s invite this year.
      
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      December 24, 2018 2:44pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Txs..
        
        and Txs for the laffs on KB.
        Hope your kids bring you Xmas brekkie in bed.
        
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        December 24, 2018 3:24pm
- waikatogirl
  
  Excellent work Morry for spreading to the Standards echo chamber the understandable and hugely felt hatred for the SLG by sane, normal NZ’ers. Thanks for your work Morry! ?
  
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  December 24, 2018 3:08pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Hahaha..
    
    They are their own worst enemies at times.
    
    To think, I only came on KB to ask some questions about the NZ temperature record and I end up voting National first time ever in my Life.
    Funny old world.
    
    Best wishes for the New Year, waikatogirl.
    
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    December 24, 2018 4:26pm
    - realityczech
      
      You think that is funny Wiggles – I first came here to rant about Muslims. No shit.
      
      I was so blown away by the prevailing hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty that I decided that was a more worthy target.
      
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      December 24, 2018 4:30pm
    - waikatogirl
      
      ?
      
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      December 24, 2018 6:56pm
- JibberJabber
  
  Judging by the comments, Morristardo is as popular there as it is here.
  
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  December 24, 2018 3:45pm
- Morrissey
  
  I wasn’t complaining about you guys, wwwAmCon. The point of my post was to draw attention to the unpleasant disease JDS. The organism responsible for the disease is, as I pointed out, the strategic masterminds of the National Party “leadership” who have fixed on the brilliant strategy of attacking Jacinda Ardern’s appearance, disparaging her partner, and no doubt soon her baby.
  
  I’m a Kiwiblogger myself! And I remain an enthusiastic and committed member of this forum.
  
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  December 24, 2018 4:21pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Five footling, foozling fuckwits frowned on the above message. May you share an afterlife with Condoleezza Rice, Bloody Gina and George H.W. Bush, AKA “Groper No. 1”.
    
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    December 24, 2018 4:33pm
    - Awww C-mon
      
      Like I say…. window licker.
      
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      December 24, 2018 4:35pm
      - Swifty
        
        And of clearly very limited intelligence.
        
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        December 24, 2018 4:40pm
Captain Mainwaring

And a very Merry Xmas to all the sane Kiwibloggers (but not the half-wits, and you know who you are).
Whatever the weather, make the most of it and enjoy quality family time together.
cheers, The Captain.
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December 24, 2018 2:18pm
secondcumming

*RANDOM IMPERTINENT QUESTION*

What to give a man who has everything?

http://www.americansuburbx.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/PH_HM_111-Custom.jpg
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December 24, 2018 2:26pm
Nostradamus

A Christmas story for Stephieboy: Swedish city’s 51-year fight to save its Christmas goat from vandals has only succeeded 15 times

The Gavle Goat — or Gavlebocken as it’s called in Swedish — is a large scale model of the Yule Goat, a Christmas symbol dating back to ancient Pagan festivals. Erected each year on the first day of Advent, the Gavle Goat is now recognised as the world’s biggest straw goat and was first conceived in 1966 as a means of attracting tourists to Gavle in the festive season.

But when it was burnt down by vandals on New Year’s Eve, the simple Christmas goat took on a new status. Now almost every year vandals make an attempt to destroy the beloved goat, which has amassed a global following of thousands on Twitter and Instagram. And every year, the city tries to stop them.

How will it end this year, Stephieboy? Are you on Team Vandal or Team Goat?
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December 24, 2018 2:56pm
Doubledimp

Interesting thought, if you are a landlord, can you prove you have insulation in your property? If a tenant could remove all of the insulation in a day and then claim you never put any in, do you have any evidence to contradict them? An unscrupulous tenant could make quite a bit of money for very little work.
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December 24, 2018 3:10pm
- Ross12
  
  Simple –take photographs ( of every room and the insulation if that is a worry) before they move in.
  
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  December 24, 2018 3:16pm
- cmm
  
  1. Photo evidence.
  2. Have it put in by a contractor and keep the invoice.
  
  If you think your tenants might be dodgy, then photograph the entire house and lodge with a lawyer or get the photos notarised in some way (justice pof peace etc).
  
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  December 24, 2018 3:50pm
  - Tall Man
    
    “if you think your tenants might be dodgy”……
    
    Don’t let them in.
    
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    December 24, 2018 4:12pm
- Colville
  
  2nd hand batts are worth fuck all…why would anyone bother?
  
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  December 24, 2018 4:56pm
realityczech

The idea of Jews being a race is of course a lie invented to justify their occupation of the Middle East.
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Where do the Jewish people come from? This is a question that anthopologists, historians and theologists have studied for millennia.

For a more scientific take on the Jewish origin debate, recent DNA analysis of Ashkenazic Jews – a Jewish ethnic group – revealed that their maternal line is European. It has also been found that their DNA only has 3% ancient ancestry which links them with the Eastern Mediterranean (also known as the Middle East) – namely Israel, Lebanon, parts of Syria, and western Jordan. This is the part of the world Jewish people are said to have originally come from – according to the Old Testament. But 3% is a minuscule amount, and similar to what modern Europeans as a whole share with Neanderthals. So given that the genetic ancestry link is so low, Ashkenazic Jews most recent ancestors must be from elsewhere.

Not one, but many tribes

To understand why this is the case, we need to go back in time, to look at where these other ancestors came from. It starts in Persia (modern-day Iran) during the sixth century. This is where most of the world’s Jews were living at this time.

The tolerance of the Persians encouraged the Jews to adopt Persian names, words, traditions, and religious practices, and climb up the social ladder gaining a monopoly on trade. They also converted other people who were living along the Black Sea, to their Jewish faith. This helped to expand their global network.

Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2018-09-ashkenazic-jews-mysterious-unravelled-scientists.html#jCp
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December 24, 2018 3:50pm
- realityczech
  
  Note how the Jews turned on the Persians (Iranians) – a trait they have displayed to this day against every culture that has hosted them in any number. Russia, Germany, USA, England… the list goes on and on.
  
  The Jews are an extreme religious cult of largely Europeans. The link to the modern area of Israel is the same as the link to our cousins the Neanderthals. Yet this is the basis used by zionists to justify horrific war crimes happening now.
  
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  December 24, 2018 3:54pm
  - realityczech
    
    I can see the zionist loons are not fans of science. What a surprise.
    
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    December 24, 2018 4:25pm
    - realityczech
      
      I am laughing my head off here. 🙂 🙂 🙂
      
      That was written by a Jew: Eran Elhaik
      Lecturer in population, medical and evolutionary genomics, University of Sheffield
      
      Even funnier he has called those who disagree with him “Nazis” which is not very original, though accurate as Hilter thought of Jews as a race.
      
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      December 24, 2018 4:45pm
  - mandk
    
    Of course, Persia and Iran are not congruent.
    
    Persia ceased to be Persia when the country was Islamised.
    
    And the oppressive theocracy that is Iran bears absolutely no resemblance to the great civilisation that was Persia.
    
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    December 24, 2018 4:38pm
    - stephieboy
      
      mandk, adopting the name Iran was much more recent. In fact 1935 when the “Persian” German Ambassador to Germany suggesting a name change to Iran congruent with the Nazi” Ayran” racial ideology,,
      
      http://www.iranchamber.com/geography/articles/persia_became_iran.php
      
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      December 24, 2018 4:48pm
    - realityczech
      
      Great. So what?
      
      The vile state of Israel bears no resemblance to the land of the Canaanites.
      
      Was that your point, or just another diversion to distract from the simple fact most Jews are European with no link the the Middle East, as proven by a JEWISH scientist?
      
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      December 24, 2018 5:09pm
      - mandk
        
        You are contradicting yourself, Kea.
        
        Earlier you were trying to tell us that the Jews came from Egypt, but now you are telling us they came from Canaan.
        
        The latter is, of course, correct.
        
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        December 24, 2018 8:27pm
    - kowtow
      
      Persia was simply the Greek name for the place. The Iranians decided they wanted to define themselves in Farsi , their own language rather than referring to themselves from a Greek perspective.
      
      A similar situation might be Germany ( Latin) and Deutschland.
      
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      December 24, 2018 9:47pm
- mandk
  
  The idea of the Jews occupying the Middle East is, of course, a lie.
  
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  December 24, 2018 4:31pm
  - realityczech
    
    They say they came from Egypt. In fact they came from Europe. Not sure why you think a bunch of various European people should lay claim to anywhere around modern Israel?
    
    But just for laughs lets base our bigotry on ancient mythical fables that Jews use themselves, they still stole it, because “God” said they could.
    
    So I have come down to rescue them from the hand of the Egyptians and to bring them up out of that land into a good and spacious land, a land flowing with milk and honey —the home of the Canaanites, Hittites, Amorites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites.” (Exodus 3:7)
    
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    December 24, 2018 4:36pm
    - stephieboy
      
      rc, but unlike your aforementioned, the Jews survived subsequent invasions and occupations and unlike them ( plus Romans Medes, Babylonians, Assyrians, Persians etc survived to tell the story.)
      
      So there!
      
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      December 24, 2018 4:41pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stephieboy:
        
        So there!
        
        Have you been to the Yoga Pantry today? St Lukes?
        
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        December 24, 2018 4:49pm
      - realityczech
        
        “rc, but unlike your aforementioned, the Jews survived subsequent invasions and occupations”
        
        So did Germany. Should we give them back France?
        
        Moron.
        
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        December 24, 2018 4:55pm
      - stephieboy
        
        rc, not at all. The resilience and durability of the Jews are remarkable given they suffered and survived numerous invasions and occupations.
        
        The Germans obviously never did!
        
        DUH!
        
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        December 24, 2018 5:00pm
      - realityczech
        
        “The resilience and durability”
        
        Like the heroic herpes virus?
        
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        December 24, 2018 5:11pm
    - mandk
      
      No, they don’t say that.
      
      They escaped captivity in Egypt.
      
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      December 24, 2018 4:41pm
      - realityczech
        
        So they came from Egypt then. To a land that was home to various peoples, a peaceful prosperous land. So why can’t the Canaanites, Hittites, Amorites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites move to modern Israel, but a bunch of Europeans and Persians can?
        
        https://www.livescience.com/56016-canaanites.html
        
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        December 24, 2018 4:49pm
      - rangitoto
        
        “So they came from Egypt then. To a land that was home to various peoples, a peaceful prosperous land.”
        
        That land has never been peaceful.
        
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        December 24, 2018 4:56pm
      - realityczech
        
        Your point?
        
        Or are you trying to create a diversion to align with your religious bigotry?
        
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        December 24, 2018 5:01pm
      - realityczech
        
        Tough crowd.
        
        You disagree with the Jewish religious texts and the work of a contemporary Jewish scientist.
        
        So the question is: What the fuck informs your strongly held beliefs?
        
        We know its not history, religious texts, or even scientific proof.
        
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        December 24, 2018 5:04pm
- stephieboy
  
  rc, you are wrong there. Genetic studies have proved conclusively that Jews share a common genetic heritage with Semitic peoples in the Middle East such as the Palestinians and Syrians,
  
  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC18733/
  
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  December 24, 2018 4:57pm
  - realityczech
    
    Right so they are the same people then. So why does one religion get exclusive right of occupation?
    
    No matter if you look at the science, or the ignorant religious fables, it fails any and all tests of decency or logic.
    
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    December 24, 2018 5:00pm
    - stephieboy
      
      rc, just observing a fact of gene studies and history especially for those who claim Jews did not originate from the region!,
      
      https://www.smh.com.au/world/study-confirms-jewish-middle-east-origins-20100610-y0lp.html
      
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      December 24, 2018 5:06pm
      - realityczech
        
        I just quoted an article by a JEWISH scientist based on DNA evidence.
        
        Along with JEWISH religious fables saying they came from Africa.
        
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        December 24, 2018 5:23pm
      - stephieboy
        
        I’ve posted research by the US prestigious National Association for the Advancement of science.
        
        Tell me more about your so-called ” JEWISH scientist.”?
        
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        December 24, 2018 8:15pm
      - sooty
        
        How about I post something from the NRA!
        
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        December 24, 2018 9:20pm
    - mandk
      
      The Jews are not asking for exclusive occupation of the Middle East, as you tried to imply earlier. They only want a tiny part of it.
      
      The one who want exclusive right of occupation are the Muslims.
      
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      December 24, 2018 8:32pm
- EAD_THREE
  
  Aren’t we forgetting about the Jewish peoples Turkish Origins?
  
  https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/archaeology/scientists-reveal-jewish-historys-forgotten-turkish-roots-a6992076.html
  
  They’ve got no business being in Palestine – they are known as the “Khazarian mafia” because their ancestral home is in the Khazar region of Turkey.
  
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  December 24, 2018 9:39pm
Brigitte

Merry Xmas everyone. Safe travels and don’t eat too much (else there won’t be enough room for the wine).

Hope Santa gives you what you want too. But if not, don’t complain, you could be like poor Nigel Farage who never gets presents (because, as we know, Santa only delivers when U SLEEP not when UKIP).
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December 24, 2018 4:52pm
Viking2

Infratil has sold out of its buses. That should help their share price.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/109587732/infratil-sells-nz-bus-to-private-equity-buyers?cid=facebook.post.109587732&fbclid=IwAR1tILH-Q-1MbYCEb_YiK8bDOebCKZMiI7EJfX9aKrbX44Eup8jOqF2cOTo

Sold to the previous half owners of GoBus who couldn’t work with Tainui. won’t be long they will buy that back given that neither Tainui nor Nga Tahu will make any money out of it either.
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December 24, 2018 5:02pm
- godruelf
  
  Wonder if the Aussies are hoping for Cullen to make another Kiwirail offer
  
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  December 24, 2018 5:34pm
Kiwi Dave

Over at Stuff, Joel Maxwell’s final column again reveals his non-understanding of why people learn languages and are unlikely to learn his favoured language.

Those who disagree with his opinions suffer from “limited moral or intellectual or emotional capacity”, are “barely New Zealanders” and should “head off to some other country”.

He repeats the partial canard that Maori language was beaten out of students by the system – no, if it were such a valuable taonga, parents would have passed it on and children used it at home, regardless of what happened at school.

Pakehas have an obligation to keep the language alive by funding it more (where does he think funding for Maori language education comes from now?) and by speaking it themselves, but he provides no realistic incentive for non-Maoris to learn and use it. He twice notes the lack of speakers but fails to connect that with the lack of interest in learning it.

Learning Maori is a gift and he wants to give people a chance to learn it, but then he wants compulsory Maori in school, so which is it – gift, opportunity or compulsion?

Maxwell was committed enough to Maori language to give up his job for a year’s immersion in the language. Good for him – I mean that sincerely – but most of us don’t share his particular language priorities.
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December 24, 2018 5:14pm
- realityczech
  
  They demand all things Maori be promoted and embraced – then express outrage when people use anything remotely Maori – claiming its a taonga.
  
  We regularly hear of Maori demanding that even people in other countries not use anything vaguely Maori.
  
  That is no way to promote a language or culture. The anger and arrogance of those noisy ones is the biggest threat and more money won’t fix it.
  
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  December 24, 2018 5:19pm
  - KevOB
    
    There is no one Maori language or culture. The tribes are all from different places and it shows in their cultural greetings. It is only in recent years that a standard pronunciation has been enforced.
    
    The tribes have never come together as one. That is why the Maori Party ceased to exist. They are still harbouring their ancient unrequited utu and envious of each other. Be careful lest they play us too.
    
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    December 24, 2018 5:37pm
    - sooty
      
      But they all came together to hold out their hands for the baubles of the TOW!
      
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      December 24, 2018 5:46pm
      - KevOB
        
        They still remain distinctly tribal.
        
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        December 24, 2018 10:11pm
  - DigNap15
    
    As I have said before at my work the four or five young Maori guys never speak Maori amongst themselves.
    They seem to prefer some pigeon language, hey cous, whats up, ow, etc etc.
    
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    December 24, 2018 7:34pm
- Longknives
  
  Joel ‘Whitey Go Home’ Maxwell.
  I hope Santa drops a steaming turd in that little creep’s Christmas Stocking…
  
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  December 24, 2018 7:04pm
  - nasska
    
    Loved your description of the KB Xmas Party the other day Longknives but I must take issue on one point.
    
    The last HiLux I had was traded in back in 2005 & unfortunately not much money changed hands. Since then I’ve stuck with 70 series Land Cruisers.
    
    Even I can’t kill them! 🙂
    
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    December 24, 2018 7:25pm
Nostradamus

The NZ Herald has a page: Five spaces that would make your house much easier for your family to live in

I thought there might be advice for Stephieboy as to where he can store the panties that he “borrows” from his neighbours’ clotheslines. After all, as he’s told us, he’s not into dirty underwear – he likes it washed with lavender-scented fabric softener.

But, regretably, the NZ Herald page is blank (at the moment anyway).

Sorry Stephieboy – you’ll have to make do for now!
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December 24, 2018 5:17pm
- nasska
  
  …..”as to where he can store the panties that he “borrows” from his neighbours’ clotheslines”…..
  
  He doesn’t store them. The sick bastard likely boils them up for soup!
  
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  December 24, 2018 5:27pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Nasska:
    
    The sick bastard likely boils them up for soup!
    
    It makes a change from the “Waiter, there’s a fly in my soup!” joke. In Stephieboy’s case, it’ll be “Waiter, there’s a bra strap in my soup!”
    
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    December 24, 2018 6:06pm
Viking2

#UraniumOne: How Clinton Sold Out the U.S. to Russia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=51&v=eQPmEwwJNI8

Wow, a must listen.
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December 24, 2018 5:18pm
- stephieboy
  
  V2 , Uranium One,debunked by none other than Fox News,
  
  Fox News anchor debunks ‘Clinton uranium scandal’ – and sparks viewer fury
  Shepard Smith said Donald Trump’s accusations that Hillary Clinton secured a deal involving uranium mining, Russia and her foundation were ‘inaccurate’
  
  Fox News anchor Shepard Smith on Tuesday evening debunked what his own network has called the Hillary Clinton uranium scandal, sparking fury among some Fox viewers.
  Smith said Donald Trump’s repeated accusations during the election campaign that Hillary Clinton smoothed a deal while she was secretary of state involving US uranium mining, Russia and the family’s charitable Clinton Foundation was “inaccurate in a number of ways”.
  
  Shepard Smith breaks with Fox News line on Trump: ‘Why all these lies?’
  Read more
  
  The story was revived this week because the attorney general, Jeff Sessions, is under pressure from the president to appoint a special prosecutor to look into the old allegations. Sessions hinted in a congressional hearing on Tuesday that there was no basis to do so.
  But a comprehensive unraveling of the accusations themselves via Fox News, albeit by an anchor who has balked before at the channel’s habit of stoking stories that bolster Trump and weaken Clinton, has shaken many in Fox’s loyal conservative audience…”
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/nov/15/fox-news-anchor-debunks-networks-clinton-uranium-scandal-sparking-fury
  
  You’d spend better and more productive time tonight chasing Santa and his sleigh with your toy drone!.
  
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  December 24, 2018 6:49pm
  - Viking2
    
    Apparently the police didn’t see your drone. Not surprising as they are about as intelligent as you.
    You watch too much TV. piss of and buy a bacon sammy.
    
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    December 24, 2018 7:08pm
secondcumming

Unbelievably, *Donald’s Wall* has been 3 years in the planning and design phase……and he wants 5 Billion to build it!

Looking at it, it’s actually nothing different to the fence I had built around the section at Tindals back in 2013, so as to repel invaders when we’re not here………just saying.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1076239448461987841
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December 24, 2018 6:14pm
- stephieboy
  
  secondcummings.
  
  with razor-sharp spiked palings and barbed wire at Tindals?
  
  One of the fallacies of this $5 Billion dollar wall is that most illegals get through at or close to the border controls.
  
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  December 24, 2018 6:39pm
  - secondcumming
    
    Well, I can assure you, the steel perimeter fence was the very first thing we installed even prior to construction of the house….and in the last 5 years we have never so much as had anybody steal a hanging macrame basket off the verandah.
    
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    December 24, 2018 6:47pm
    - nasska
      
      How many volts do you put through it?
      
      Mind you, the best security we’ve ever had is the wife’s German Shepherd bitch. She can pick out the thieving classes at 500 metres.
      
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      December 24, 2018 6:58pm
      - Viking2
        
        Reported your dot.
        Just so we can get the edit fixed.
        
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        December 24, 2018 7:21pm
      - stephieboy
        
        nasska, unfortunately even they are not bulletproof with some police dogs knifed suffering serious wounds.
        
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        December 24, 2018 8:11pm
nasska

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December 24, 2018 6:15pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  . .:.
  
  Your dot looked lonely, so I sent a few friends over.
  
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  December 24, 2018 7:30pm
  - nasska
    
    Thanks Maggy. My dot now no longer needs counselling! 🙂
    
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    December 24, 2018 7:34pm
    - Viking2
      
      Would your dots like some lawn clippings for the evening?
      
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      December 24, 2018 7:41pm
  - Manolo
    
    Buon Natale, cara Maggy.
    
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    December 24, 2018 7:47pm
Morrissey

“Get the fuck out of my car!”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-jIXTmgvLU
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December 24, 2018 7:16pm
Awww C-mon

Finally home and knocked off for the day (hopefully). Stuffed if I know why I thought a 13 hour day on Christmas Eve was a good idea!

Merry Christmas KBers of all shapes, sizes and persuasions.

My you and yours stay safe, have peaceful homes and memorable times together.
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December 24, 2018 7:37pm
- Viking2
  
  It wasn’t but it could have been a bore. Its persisted down all day in Tauranga. The mad ones were all out buying stuff they don’t need.
  
  So Happy Xmas.
  
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  December 24, 2018 7:42pm
- Swifty
  
  Best wishes to you too Awww C-mon.
  
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  December 24, 2018 8:01pm
- Ross12
  
  Best wishes Awww C-mon and to everyone else who contributes to KB throughout the year. (except for the one who down ticked Awww C-mon ).
  
  Thank you to our host, David for all his hard work with the blog, this year. May you and your family enjoy your time together over the festive season.
  
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  December 24, 2018 8:32pm
  - Swifty
    
    The downticks belong to Stiffy.
    
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    December 24, 2018 8:39pm
Viking2

another dead Mother!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/109585898/emergency-services-cordon-off-matamata-property
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December 24, 2018 7:48pm
- DigNap15
  
  Ardern will need lots of tears over the next 2 years.
  
  Will she do the same for males guys that get beaten up?
  
  Or prison guards that get attacked
  
  Or policemen that get assaulted?
  
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  December 24, 2018 8:33pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Damn!!!

No sherry in the house, and I’m about to start the trifle.

In the past, I could rely upon my kids to have some boozy liqueurs lurking around the house.
I’ve located a quarter-full bottle of a dark chocolate liqueur – Mozart Black;
could I soak the sponge in that?
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December 24, 2018 7:50pm
- Awww C-mon
  
  Sounds good to me Maggie!!!
  
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  December 24, 2018 7:50pm
- nasska
  
  Forget the alcohol Maggy…..it’ll do your liver in.
  
  Try this as a substitute…..never fails! 🙂
  
  https://www.myrecipes.com/extracrispy/yes-we-cannabutter-how-to-make-the-ultimate-pot-butter
  
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  December 24, 2018 7:55pm
- Swifty
  
  Send hubby out.
  
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  December 24, 2018 8:00pm
- KevOB
  
  Real trifle needs rum. That’s what my grandmother used in hers in her private hotel. Never forgot the flavour. Tried searching for it for years then my wife ran out of sherry and used what was on hand: rum–success!
  
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  December 24, 2018 10:16pm
Maggy Wassilieff

That would do my head in and my arteries..

besides who has got the time to watch simmering pots for 3 hours or more?
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December 24, 2018 8:03pm
DigNap15

Love those new road Hoardings

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12182093

I’d donate to a Tauranga to Waihi one!
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December 24, 2018 8:30pm
holysheet

HOUSEWIVES: Hang on in there, only one more day till your new vacuum cleaner.
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December 24, 2018 9:38pm
- secondcumming
  
  I’ve bought my missus a new fridge. I can hardly wait to see her face light up when she opens the door.
  
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  December 24, 2018 10:42pm
  - waikatosinger
    
    The light does usually go on when you open the door of the fridge.
    
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    December 24, 2018 10:50pm

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