Labour’s nominations
September 8th, 2010 at 7:06 pm by David FarrarLabour have announced:
Labour Party organisations in these electorates will hold their confirmation meetings shortly:
• Bay of Plenty Carol Devoy-Heena
Lost in 2008 by 17,604 votes. Ranked 76th (2nd bottom). I think Tony Ryall can relax.
• Botany Koro Tawa
Ranked No 65. Lost by 10,872 in 2008. Not a lot of new blood coming through is there!
• Christchurch East Lianne Dalziel
An MP since 1990.
• Coromandel Hugh Kininmonth
Lost by 14,560 in 2008. Ranked 75th (third bottom)
• East Coast Moana Mackey
Lost by 6,413 to Anne Tolley. List MP since 2003.
• East Coast Bays Vivienne Goldsmith
Lost by 13,794 to Prince of Darkness. Ranked No 67 in 2008.
• Hamilton East Sehai Orgad
2007 President of compulsory Waikato Student’s Union. Stood for East ward of Hamilton City Council in 2007 and came 10th.
• Hauraki-Waikato Nanaia Mahuta
MP since 1996
• Helensville Jeremy Greenbrook-Held
Very appropriate Jeremy stands against John Key as he writes so many letters to the editor complaining about the Government. 2005 President of the compulsory VUWSA. Is standing for Henderson-Massey Local Board in 2010 elections.
A little known trivia fact is that a few years ago Jeremy and I co-authored a petition to Subway asking them to reverse their sacking of an employee for sharing a free $2 staff coke with a friend.
• Manukau East Ross Robertson
MP since 1987.
• New Plymouth Andrew Little
Former President of compulsory VUWSA, and NZUSA. Labour Party President.
• Rotorua Steve Chadwick
Lost her seat in 2008 by 5,065 votes. MP since 1999.
• Selwyn David Coates
Lost in 2008 by 11,075 votes.Ranked No 74 (fourth bottom) on list.
• Taranaki-King Country Rick Barker
Now this is weird. Barker presumably can’t get nominated again in Tukituki, so desperate to carry on has headed to the west coast. Has been an MP since 1993.
• Waimakariri Clayton Cosgrove
MP since 1999. Holding on with a 390 vote majority.
• Wellington Central Grant Robertson
Former President of compulsory OUSA and then NZUSA.
• Wigram Megan Woods
2007 Mayoral candidate against Bob Parker.
If the list above, is Labour rejuvenating, then someone has a sick sense of humour. Their only new candidates are from compulsory student associations.
Of their 2008 candidates, the ones standing again were all ranked in the bottom dozen, and lost by huge majorities. Where are the Kate Suttons, Michael Woods, Conor Roberts, and Louisa Walls who all actually have some talent?
Tags: Andrew Little, Carol Devoy-Heena, Clayton Cosgrove, david coates, Grant Robertson, Hugh Kininmonth, Jeremy Greenbrook-Held, Koro Tawa, Labour, Lianne Dalziel, Megan Woods, Moana Mackey, Nanaia Mahuta, Rick Barker, Ross Robertson, Sehai Orgad, Steve Chadwick, vivienne goldsmith
September 8th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Jeremy Greenbrook-Held “2005 President of the compulsory VUWSA.”
Aww Gawd, spare me, another schewdint politician trying for a lifelong attachment to the public teat.
What a disgrace.
Vote:September 8th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
These sound mainly like uncontested positions for jackups or un-winnable seats so it doesn’t really matter who they put up. Hopefully they will put more effort and have competition for realistically contestable seats.
[DPF: That is FPP thinking. By standing in an unwinnable seat, you can be given a winnable list spot]
Vote:September 8th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
2nd place in 2011 guaranteed
Vote:September 8th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Rick Barker has to be barking mad if he thinks he’ll get in running for the Taranaki – king Country seat. Gee are these people taking A class drugs?
Vote:September 8th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Taranaki-King Country … Rick Barker … more than weird. Consigning your Assistant Speaker to a totally unwinnable seat. RB not good enough for Tukituki, the seat he once held, so dump him. Ipredict should run a book on his List ranking position. Looks like 55 might break .80c
But seriously, Assistant Speaker is one of the very few baubles that Labour has within its power to dispense … and the only MP worthy of the bauble is one they consign to the rubbish dump of totally unwinnable seats.
Sez much for the state of Labour.
Vote:September 8th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
Hey, what happened to Sue Moroney in Hamilton East?
Vote:She organised a wonderful members’ function for Labour Party members in the Carbine Room at Ellerslie in Great Northern day.
I met Grant Robertson there and also backed a $24 winner. That was a queer result wasn’t it.
September 8th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
“A little known trivia fact is that a few years ago Jeremy and I co-authored a petition to Subway asking them to reverse their sacking of an employee for sharing a free $2 staff coke with a friend.”
You champion of the working class you! Surprised you are admitting to such communist acts as taking collective action to bail out some no good layabout who stole from a fair minded generous employer? Was this worker in their first 90 days of employment?
[DPF: If an employer behaves crappily, I am quite happy to bash them for doing so - just as I'll criticise a union that behaves badly. I note in this case that public pressure worked]
Vote:September 8th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
The reason for the lack of rejuvenation is right there in the figures you provide, DPF: MPs who’ve been there 24, 21, 18, 15, 12, 12 and 8 years respectively. Few among that number could point to anything much they’ve done – or even tried to do – to make NZ a better place than it was when they were elected.
It’s all very well to say new talent is hard to find, but when the old “talent” is still there, expecting Cabinet posts by virtue of seniority not potential, why would anyone bother signing on and joining the queue? Dalziel, for instance, has been an utter disgrace on justice issues – an area in which Labour could easily establish a point of difference from National if it had the nous and guts – yet her lacklustre performance won’t, I guarantee, see her dumped from the shadow Cabinet.
Vote:September 8th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
“Hey, what happened to Sue Moroney in Hamilton East?”
She has been confirmed as the candidate for Hamilton West in 2011.
Vote:September 8th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Do people realise who they are voting for? NO.
Vote:September 8th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
WilliamPitt;
Vote:Has Sue shifted from Tauwhare?
When I lose the compass I will believe that Tauwhare is west of Hamilton.
September 8th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
sehai orgad… ugh
Vote:September 8th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
The biggest big-government lover in a history of WSU big government lovers.
Vote:September 8th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
What a sorry bunch. Once the unions started to lose their power the only way for most of these wannabes to go was parliament.
Vote:God forbid any of them would actually try to earn their own living.
What is the gene that makes them so keen to boss the rest of us around?
September 9th, 2010 at 1:09 am
Is the twice failed Rick Barker not eligible to stand in Tukituki or has he been dumped?
Fat chance them putting up a candidate capable of beating Craig Foss in the next 15 years anyway.
Vote:September 9th, 2010 at 2:49 am
Another good argument that our already irrelevant compulsory student unions are blatantly training grounds for aspiring Labour troughers.
Add to that Hipkins and Robertson. Ugh.
What sort of parallel universe do you live in David that you consider Kate Sutton, Michael Woods, Conor Roberts, and Louisa Wall as remotely “talented”?
[DPF: Well, in a relative sense
. More seriously, I think they have pretty good skills, which would mean they'll be pretty effective MPs. They will of course still have crap policies
Incidentially my mentioning of them was not meant to be exclusive - I was not implying none of the listed candidates have any talent - more just that taken as a whole, it is hardly a rejuvenation]
Vote:September 9th, 2010 at 3:17 am
Clint Heine 2:49 am. Yes, you’re right Clint. I guess the bill will pass this time. A much needed minor measure to defund the left. Next step, a new Employment Contracts Act, without the Employment Court.
cheers
David Prosser
Vote:September 9th, 2010 at 3:34 am
Not with this National Govt David…. but maybe next term if we have enough MPs with a backbone.
Vote:September 9th, 2010 at 3:35 am
If i were a conspiracy theorist. I’d say the fix was in with Goff playing Kerry to Key’s Bush in some good ol ‘skull and bones’ backroom school tie deal ?
It appears Labour are essentially rolling over in giving these crusty farts (who i’m picking are close personal friends of the goffinator, bar Andrew Little), one last nudge at the public tit knowing they’re setting themselves up to lose the next election and going for the big purge after they get trounced next year.
Just doesnt seem to make much difference who these people are. They all seem to have their ideologies cookie cut from the same bohemian dough and collectively pray at the feet of the giant Moloch.
WOOT WOOT
Vote:September 9th, 2010 at 7:49 am
Realising that I have come to the post very late. . .
Can anyone amongst our ‘viewers’ tell me if in fact any of the aforementioned ‘Labour’ party nominations have ever actually ‘laboured’ (as in worked with their hands, not their ‘minds’), or are they all Uni-educated?
If, as I suspect, it is the latter case, it makes a mockery of the party name doesn’t it, and presents an interesting conundrum: How can one represent the worker’s if one has never done a days work (‘laboured’) n one’s life’.
Perhaps the famous Wal’ was correct: it IS all in the mind . . .
One wonders . . .
Vote:September 9th, 2010 at 7:55 am
Dear oh dear what an uninspiring collection of never-has-beens and junior totalitarians looking for a lifelong position at the socialist trough. This is just a disaster of blandness for labour. Excellent !
Vote:September 9th, 2010 at 8:01 am
I think we can expect that one to turn around, given Tolley’s total incompetence as a Minister.
Vote:September 9th, 2010 at 8:04 am
Expect an increased majority Toad, despite the lies and bullshit from the left Tolley remains extremely popular with the parents of NZ.
Vote:September 9th, 2010 at 8:23 am
Komata, you are 100% correct. Not one of these people have ever worked with real people or outside their little political vacuum. They are a walking talking oxymoron.
Toad… even if Tolley was to be the worst minister of all time, she would still inspire more confidence from the public than for any one of the Green policies. In fact she could rename herself Alamein Kopu and people would still line up for blocks to vote for her and not the Greens.
Vote:September 9th, 2010 at 8:42 am
But how many would be voting for Tolley and how many would be voting for National?
Vote:September 9th, 2010 at 8:49 am
The left really are in a panic about losing their ability to brainwash the next generation of our kids.
What people like Toad forget is that the vast majority of parents want their kids to master the basics, they do not want their kids indoctrinated with left wing bullshit.
Vote:September 9th, 2010 at 10:05 am
I can see a silver lining in this, for Labour.
The point about talent being hard to find is right, when you are unpopular. When you are on a roll (as National has been in the past two elections) good people are more liklely to put their hands up. If Labour’s old codgers retired now, they would be replaced (for the most part) by low-grade hacks, whom Labour would then be stuck with for a generation.
Far better to wait until Labour is on an upswing, then do the big cleanout. At that point they would be more likely to get some decent replacements.
That’s a pretty thin argument of course, but possibly the best consolation Labour’s supporters could cling to.
Vote:September 9th, 2010 at 10:14 am
Northcote: Paula Gillon
Daughter of former Alliance MP Grant Gillon. Councillor and local board member on the North Shore. Was only elected because she posed nude in her billboards.
Vote:September 9th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Of the four you mention David, I would only rate Conor Roberts. Sutton is not stable enough to be an MP and has nothing going for her other than an ego the size of a house and an extraordinary self belief. I don’t know Wood very well but my impression is he is a bit drippy. As for Wall, there was potential, but she has shown she can’t foot it the moment she opened her mouth and said she “expected to lose” Tamaki Makaurau.
People talk about rejuvenating the Labour Party, but with what?! There is nobody. All the talent that would normally join Labour has joined National, which is why National is so drippy wet right now.
Vote:September 9th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
Megan Woods has to be the worst kept secret and is confirmation that Anderton is definately going after Labour sold local stalwart Erin Gillispie up the river to parachute Woods in to a safe Labour seat.
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