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So according to Hooten the Nat’s are likely to offer a seat at the cabinet table to the dirty stinking bloody Greens.
At what stage do National party supporters tell Neville Key that enough is enough, or are all of them like the brain dead Adolf and will put up with anything just as long as their team is in power.
And two more months where the Greens take 4 percentage points from Labour, and the Greens become the main opposition party; could it be any worse for Labour?
I hate to say this but it looks like Big Bruv is right.
A word on the All Blacks: Cheats
MARK REASON
Last updated 05:00 31/08/2011
OPINION: If New Zealand go out of a consecutive World Cup because of another dodgy refereeing decision, they will have no one to blame but themselves. The All Blacks no longer even bother to bend the laws. They set out to deliberately cheat.
For only one piffling syllable, CHEAT is an awfully big word. “Who are you calling a cheat?” demands the card-playing gunslinger, just before the mandatory murder and the five aces sliding from the sleeve.
Interesting comparison here of the Japanese and US economies – Three charts.
The last one shows an eerie match between the S&P (1990 on), Nikkei (1979 on). In some respects it should not be a surprise, with similar economic theories and strong connections between the economies. Still, it’s a pointer to the future of the S&P (and the US economy) if they don’t do something different from now – and from what Japan did.
And two more months where the Greens take 4 percentage points from Labour, and the Greens become the main opposition party; could it be any worse for Labour?
IV2:
You have the wrong end of the stick mate.
Its not labour that has the problem its the NZ voter and even worse the NZ Taxpayer.
Greens and the Nats. Keys latest strategy against ACT.
Goff told Rachael Smalley (looking hot this morning by the way, her not him) that Labour would pay for the extra Billion(s) for the CHCH rebuild with the increase in tax on rich pricks, stop people like the 2 doctors who had tax avoidance schemes and the Capital Gains Tax. How many times can someone spend the same money?
and the polls are making us more worried I feel. The demise of Labour is fantastic BUT the Greens are even worse .. good god, imagine nutters like them actually having more influence on policy. Take on board their environmental concerns by all means BUT!!!!
So, National well north of 50%. If thats maintained on election night, heres a challenge for you JK – you have the mandate, act. Yes, we the people will have spoken, get us out of this mess, make this the second term that we all look back on in 20 years time and say yes, that was the turning point. The point that turned us from a nation of people with middle class welfare as part of our bedrock into a nation that takes opportunity and runs with it. That does look after those who deserve our support, but spurns those who are too lazy to work.
In all likelihood you will get that mandate. Are you and your colleagues smart enough to take it?
Viking, Mark Reason’s column deserves to rest in the same bin as the (extensive) reporting about the penguin. Fluff and garbage pandering to headlines but without substance or meaning. Guaranteed to garner outrage and response on a slow news day. Ignore and it will go away.
Big Bruv, It’s easy to stop National offering positions to the watermelons….. Just party vote ACT, instead of National. Although, most National voters are too thick not to get taken in by the medias demonisation of all things ACT, and the lefts rewriting of history.
Witness Adolf and Inventory2, who are continually pissing in Key’s pocket. Then we have idiots like Shunda telling us that ACT will send NZ to hell in a handcart faster than a labour/greens combo. Yet he cannot rebut a single ACT economic policy.
Classic examples of media brain-washing and typical kiwi lack of critical thinking.
its amazing how brain washed the public is against ACT!. especially chicks.
Dimes outta control at the moment, banging randoms all over the place. a lot of dating. I always manage to ask about politics though (unlike my deadbeat brother who would claim to be a helen clarke fan just to get laid).
They all say the same thing – ACT! is evil.
So i quiz them – really how so??
answer – they just are.
they have no idea what act stands for, just know they are evil.
They couldn’t do anything like critical thinking, to sit down and spend 30mins reading ACT policy and understanding it. They are so fucked in the head from the indoctrination they get in our school, they can’t see all the subversive anti-ACT (Capitalism) pro-Communism in our media.
They think John Campbell is a hero for fucks sake!
and the polls are making us more worried I feel. The demise of Labour is fantastic BUT the Greens are even worse ..
Easy answer, if you don’t want Greens to get too big you should consider supporting the sensible alternative – UnitedFuture. It’s looking more like the only safe option alongside National.
You’re probably right but I’m an eternal optimist (even as a I prepare for the worst), so I’ll wait for November 2012. If Obama, Geithner and Bernanke are still there in 2013 then we’ll know for sure.
tom
It’s hard to see the presidential election next year leading to any fundamental changes in the US. I’d consider both parties there to be very conservative (in the sense of commitment to the status quo).
It’s hard to see the presidential election next year leading to any fundamental changes in the US.
Agreed, mainly because the “free” stuff has been locked in for some decades now, not to mention pork for one’s district and the stalemate that has existed now for three decades between lower taxes and more free government services.
But I think the atomic debt bomb has changed most of that, with the approaching thermonuclear entitlement bomb set to change even more. We shall see.
I’d consider both parties there to be very conservative (in the sense of commitment to the status quo).
One of the things I’ve often seen left-wingers pull is to say that the NZ National party is much like the US Democrat Party. While there is some truth to this (perhaps more everyday), it’s always been a tactic designed to portray the US right as a bunch of extremists – when in fact they are simply representative of a centre-right country (as NZ is centre-left).
With that in mind one could say that both major parties in NZ are very conservative in the sense of commitment to the status quo.
But I don’t hear many leftists claiming that Labour, the Greens, Alliance, Anderton et al are conservatives.
In other words it’s just more debate framing: one type of revolutionary is good while another type of revolutionary is bad. Are the Tea Partiers revolutionaries because they want to cut down much of the status quo – or are they “reactionaries” for wanting to limit the government to the size of earlier ages (like 1990 perhaps)?
You really have to feel sorry for our friends in Canterbury.
Not only have they had to endure earthquakes, aftershocks, huge infrastructural damage, massive inconvenience to their daily lives, but yesterday they had to add the fact that head grinch and husband descended into CHC on NZ515 yesterday.
Well, I see the Tea Party as revolutionary, in the sense that they want something radically different from the status quo. Whether they actually attract sufficient support to see the Contract from America or similar agenda implemented is another question. A possible outcome is that Tea Party supported candidates in Congress make for an even more polarised legislature, putting the compromises necessary to achieve meaningful change even further out of reach.
It seems that ‘The Man’ Anthony Mundine is correct in saying that there is an agenda at
work against Sonny Bill Williams, and it looks like its working.
The Herald today asks, ‘Who is the best player Nonu or Williams ?’
Most of the sheeple who are against SBW cite his ‘disloyalty’ thats it. No reference to
who is the better player at all.
Who is pursuing this agenda and why ?
Is it the left footing mickey doolan mafia within the NZRFU because he is a Muslim ?
Not that ? What is it then ? Has Ted fallen in love with Nonu ?
Chris Rattue is correct when he points out that the NZRU is bonkers the way they are handling this.
Is there sum sing rong with Henry, Smith, Carter and McCaw together in a joint venture ?
bereal …… are you for real?
sbw was very good in the early part of the season. he has fallen away dramatically in the late part of the season. nonu has been very good in the ab strip in all of the tests he has played. he was the incumbent from the past 2-3 seasons. sbw has to displace him by being better. he has not been better.
why would henry and co go out on a limb and bring him to nz and then not pick him due to a hidden agenda. silly piffle.
if a tweet from mundine is the basis for a conspiracy theory ….
It’s hard to see SBW figuring much in the RWC. He’s clearly behind Nonu in ability and current form, and lacks the versatility to make the bench for the big matches. His agent and Mundine obviously don’t agree, but not everyone has to buy tickets to the Sonny Bill circus.
It seems that ‘The Man’ Anthony Mundine is correct in saying that there is an agenda at
work against Sonny Bill Williams, and it looks like its working.
Nah, Money-Bill showed his loyalty when re-signed with the Doggies in March 2007 with a 5 year contract worth over $2.5 million and he said:
“I’m happy to be staying here with the boys and I’m happy to be here with the Club. I want to be a Bulldog for life. The club is just as much a part of me as I am of the club. I love the Bulldogs.”
In July 2008, 16 months later, a big ‘fuck you’ to the club and his fans and he weaselled his way out of his contract and bailed to Toulon.
So fuck you Money-Bill, follow your mentor and take up a new career beating up old men in the boxing ring.
@bereal – the issue has everything to do with his contract. SBW’s manager [Khoder Nasser] negotiated a personal contract with a competitor product to an existing AB sponsor and when the contract was passed by the NZRU they pointed out the conflict. So Nasser then suggests to the NZRU that they pay SBW the equivalent he would have earned from the competitor and the NZRU [quite rightly] says get stuffed.
This is the same Khoder Nasser who abused Rob Penny and Tabai Matson when SBW was dropped – apparently Nasser included the pearl: “No-one drops Sonny-Bill” in his tirade that was witnessed by many at a Christchurch eatery.
Nasser has tried to negotiate an impossible deal from a position of weakness – and failed. SBW has been a disappointment – in fact, based on his efforts against Australia in Brisbane, he should consider himself lucky that he was selected in the squad at all.
Nonu has emerged from the toxic spill that is called the Hammett Hurricanes and has thrived under Henry / Hansen and Smith. Without doubt, Nonu is the automatic pick for 12 [alongside Smith at 13]. SBW would be lucky to make the bench.
And Mundine – who cares what he thinks? He is a complete stalk.
First time I have seen New Zealand featured on Fox news since the earthquake. Yep on the Shep Smith programme last night was our own international immigrant HAPPY LEGS looking immaculate and well fed as he commenced the return journey to his homeland.
Depending on the outcome of the election, who gets what, and what the percentages are, there could be a major shakeup in the political system.
Labour may have no choice but to amalgamate with the Greens ie Labour Greens, just to stay in touch.
Whether Labour or the Greens are willing to merge their brands is entirely up to them. Labour could tough it out on the cross benches for another term and risk losing more support, thereby weakening their position further, or they could merge with the Greens whom are growing and attracting support from a generation that has no philosophical connection to Labour.
There’s some hope for meaningful definitions then. I agree, and I think your possible outcome is actually what we do have as a result of the 2010 election.
At least on the grass roots right there is little doubt that the GOP would have “compromised” with Obama on a whole host of things since 2009 had they not been stopped by the Tea Party, even before the mid-term elections – dating right back to the protests at the townhall meetings of many representatives in the summer of 2009.
But I think that in certain situations there is no room for compromise, that it may make things worse by actually leading away from “meaningful reform”, and I think the US is now at that point.
The 1990 budget deal with George H W Bush was hailed as a model of such compromise (and still is by many on the left) – except that while taxes were raised, the supposed cut in government spending never happened: it continued it’s slow, relentless rise. Oh – and GHWB got pilloried by the Dems anyway for having broken his promise on taxes. I often think that the US left do not recognise the degree to which the right remember that deal, or appreciate the way it is now viewed as a poisoned chalice. That’s partly why the recent “debt deal” was such a bitter battle. Many on the right, particularly those Tea Party-backed representatives, simply no longer believe in such deals. They’re convinced the left will simply bullshit about spending cuts, whilst locking in future spending with steady, incremental enlargements on existing programs (SCHIP as a prime example), relentlessly focusing on their long-term objectives, and covering the whole thing with the much trumpeted “bi-partisan” agreement that allows them to go over the waterfall holding hands with the stupid GOP.
Similarly NZ compromised it’s way through the 60′s and 70′s into a train wreck economy by the early 1980′s. One of the common complaints of both left and right “extremists” (e.g Jesson) was the degree to which both Labour and National supported the same crap, even as some people at the bottom knew the damned things were failing. I’m not automatically opposed to such an approach – as long as I’m convinced that the whole system is not moving toward a cliff. But by the early 1980′s more and more people were convinced we were at the cliff’s edge and still trundling along in the same way. In that situation the last thing that should be wanted is compromise on the details, yet “tweakers” still abounded, Muldoon merely the most prominent of them. In the same sense I don’t much like revolutions, because they often result in stupid things being done in the heat of the moment. Unfortunately, by 1984, nothing short of a revolution was needed, something many left-wingers bitterly deny to this day, which surely makes them reactionaries.
I often look at people like Peter Dunne and think he would have made a good Holyoake-era MP. Reasonable, pragmatic, common-sense, yada, yada, yada. Winkling out little compromises all over the place: a tweak here and there to a million different rules and regulations. As I see it we’re back in that period. Three years ago I said that Key would be the 21st century Holyoake, but I don’t think that’s anything to crow about.
Of course I note that left-wingers were more than happy to destroy the status quo of National-Labour support for ANZUS, and the general relationship with the US. Compromise bad: revolution good – when those were the issues.
Compromise has simply become, and perhaps always was, just another debate framing word: in the 1970′s it meant that Labour and National could fight over the solution to inflation – the insane Maximum Retail Price scheme – and “compromise” over the details of the rules. Similarly with the stupid regulations on selling petrol in the US – fights over the prescriptive rules. But compromise over the idea of dumping the whole nonsense and letting companies fight it out in a competitive market place? Compromise on “big” ideas – naaaah!
Now we face the same, growing issues with our health, welfare and education systems, as does the US, and if we don’t “compromise” over allowing truly different things to be done in those areas we’ll find ourselves at another cliff edge, revolutionary moment. And lots of ordinary people will get screwed, just like they did during Rogernomics, – and they’ll blame the revolutionaries for having disturbed their cozy world.
“Labour may have no choice but to amalgamate with the Greens ie Labour Greens, just to stay in touch.”
Unlikely. The problem is that normally MMP requires coalitions. If Labour merge with the Greens they will still need to find a viable coalition partner. Mana is a one man band and will die when Harawira is finally dumped. UF is also a one man band. So a Labour – Green merger would cripple the Left.
Third of Kiwis: Peters good for NZ
By Claire Trevett
12:01 PM Wednesday Aug 31, 2011
Prime Minister John Key won’t work with him, but more than one third of voters think the return of NZ First leader Winston Peters would be good for New Zealand.
Asked whether the return of Mr Peters to Parliament would be positive or negative for New Zealand, 56 per cent of respondents in the Herald DigiPoll survey said it would be negative and 36 per cent said positive.
@Viking2 – Mark Reason’s most recent diatribe is totally expected – he has just followed the trend from his father’s rants about the All Blacks – clearly there is a long running hostility within their family – most likely fuelled by the All Black’s record against Northern Hemisphere teams.
Mark Reason now lives in NZ – a long way away from his former home at the Telegraph in the UK. His comments have a recurring theme – All Blacks are cheats / northern teams are always robbed when they play the ABs etc – all the usual stuff.
Reason’s consistency is only matched by that other ‘know-all’ rugby writing prat from the Northern Hemisphere – Stephen Jones.
Both are legends in their own lunch box, with ‘contributions’ that deserve to be published under the headings “Humour” or “Sports Fiction” rather than any attempt at fact.
So Red Russel would have all earning over $48000 dip into their pockets for CHCH, just one off payment mind you. This fruitcake is getting rather tiresome, are the Melons capable of forming any policy that doesn’t involve taking other peoples money?Fuck the Melons. If Russel wants to reconstruct CHCH why does he not support the Nats in the exploration of minerals and the opening of new mines. We are sitting on billions but the Melons would rather have us broke and beholding to an oppressive government that knows only how to take. Norman promotes big government on the back of charity.
@sideshowbob says: “…are the Melons capable of forming any policy that doesn’t involve taking other peoples money?”
Could it be (1) – Wussell cannot understand the potential earnings from minerals because he is an economic ignoramus?
Could it be (2) – Wussell cannot differentiate between an economic opportunity and an ideological brainfart?
Could it be (3) – Gween policy is about communism and socialism rather than any creation of wealth?
Could it be (4) – The Gweens just KNOW that anyone earning over $48k are ‘rick pricks’ and can afford to pay more taxes…
Could it be (5) – All of the above?
One thing I didn’t think to mention – at times on Kiwiblog there has been strong criticism of families closing ranks and not helping police when there has been a bad case of child abuse.
This is exactly what Cherie Sweeney stood up against when she was labeled a nark. And that is what she is campaigning for, with increasing support – to speak out on child abuse and to encourage others to speak out, especially if they know of abuse going on.
Problems like violence and abuse are family and community problems and need famiies and communities to deal with them properly rather than sweeping battered kids under a rug of silence.
Just joined so excuse me if I hark back to the Greens current polling. I would support JK offering them one of 2 minor cabinet positions if they top 15% at the expense of the Socilaists. Thisnk about it. the Greens have never ever had their hands on the tiller. By giving them a taste and letting them into the Cabinet room the Nats will let them see the reality of life.
Not their current Green/Red policy dreamtime stuff but what its actually like to hoave to govern.
:Lets fact none of the Greens have the governance ability to govern a booze up in a brewery. Like all who are in Opposition and never have to front up they are all piss and wind.
So let them taste some reality and hope they grow a brain.
Better have them inside the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in
A while back I was doing the weekly shopping and saw a Maori man wearing a T-shirt with a picture of barbed wire dripping in blood and the words “Narcs Get Cut”. This guy was with his wife/partner and three kids. Says it all sadly.
Good point lastmanstanding, Greens (and Mana) have no experience in government, and perhaps that shows in the impracticality of some of their policies.
Lee – that’s very sad, but unfortunately there’s far too much brutality and in some cases a total lack of basic empathy.
Afternoon Ladies
Hope the camera up the poop chute went well.
Lee01 (352) Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 12:12 pm
“Labour may have no choice but to amalgamate with the Greens ie Labour Greens, just to stay in touch.”
Unlikely. The problem is that normally MMP requires coalitions. If Labour merge with the Greens they will still need to find a viable coalition partner. Mana is a one man band and will die when Harawira is finally dumped. UF is also a one man band. So a Labour – Green merger would cripple the Left.
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UF isn’t a one man band. There are nine outstanding candidates in behind Peter and more to come. It could be expected that at least 5% of the centre vote will eventually rest on UF.
An overhang from FPP is the obligatory Tory vs socialist battle this far out from the election. This may not necessarily continue as people realise the benefits of having a centre party to keep both sides accountable. A centre party in government keeps the pace of policy up as the issues are debated rather ideological positions. In the latter situation all the horsetrading between parties with fixed ideological agendas slows down the passage of legislation. A vote for UnitedFuture is a vote for a moderate center right progressive government. In my opinion.
Odds on Labour/Green/Mana to cross cannibalize at this stage. One of them will emerge as the champion of the far left. Labour would do better to move away and not highlight the fact that the greens are on their territory. If the leftie intellectual vote swings green they are in serious schtook.
The problem with the Greens is not the Green side of things, though they need to be less statist and more realistic, but that said as an agrarian/distributist there is much about green philosophy I agree with. No, the problem is the Red side, in particular their insane foriegn and defense policies and their ultra-liberal social policy. There are some small signs that they might be finally growing up a little, and hopefully the departure of Communist and terrorist supporter Keith Locke will hasten this.
I meant that on current polling it seems unlikely that UF will bring in anyone other than Dunne. That may change of course, but we will see.
“A vote for UnitedFuture is a vote for a moderate center right progressive government.”
Ick. “Modern” and “Progressive” in the same sentence. No thanks. Edit: Oops, sorry, you said “moderate” not modern. My bad.
That said I wish them well. I do agree with Dunne’s support for income spliiting for married couples. Hope he can push that through after the election.
The problem with the Greens is not the Green side of things, though they need to be less statist and more realistic, but that said as an agrarian/distributist there is much about green philosophy I agree with. No, the problem is the Red side, in particular their insane foriegn and defense policies and their ultra-liberal social policy. There are some small signs that they might be finally growing up a little, and hopefully the departure of Communist and terrorist supporter Keith Locke will hasten this.
By “growing up” you mean “agreeing with me a bit more than before”?
Lee – Income Sharing legislation has already been tabled in Parliament (as a result of a Confidence and Supply Agreement with the National), so it’s a good bet.
Pete George and Monique Watson, your beloved leaders chances took a massive hit when he abandoned his “middle ground, common sense reasonable” position, that propelled him to upper atmosphere on the back of a worm. While most of us realised a worm cant fly no matter how high you throw it, he made his separation with first wife Labour a final divorce, big mistake.
His political personna is now defacto National so his point of difference is gone burger, forget policy claims, look where cgt got labour to, in spite of polls indicating some acceptance.
The Greens have fallen into the same hole with their trumpeting Left policy at the expense of any chance of Blue green potential votes.
It has been a clear tactical blunder by the many center and center-right supporters of the environmental lobby that they allowed the communists and far left socialists to usurp their moderate green environmental based position in the political landscape as a means of getting to the trough.
Hopefully the Mana party LWNJs will permit an opportunity to redress that.
Best wishes.
@sideshowbob says: “…are the Melons capable of forming any policy that doesn’t involve taking other peoples money?”
Could it be (1) – Wussell cannot understand the potential earnings from minerals because he is an economic ignoramus?
Could it be (2) – Wussell cannot differentiate between an economic opportunity and an ideological brainfart?
Could it be (3) – Gween policy is about communism and socialism rather than any creation of wealth?
Could it be (4) – The Gweens just KNOW that anyone earning over $48k are ‘rick pricks’ and can afford to pay more taxes…
Could it be (5) – All of the above?
all of the above and I should point out that the value at which you now become a rich prick has dropped.
Cullen called it at $66k. Won’t be long and we will all be rich pricks including those on the dole.
Monique .. yes it did thanks .. had 4 “things” snipped out and there is a condition I need to monitor.
I would suggest everyone over 50 have one. My sister, 59, was found to have bowel cancer 6 or so weeks ago. The operation went well it seems. The Dr suggested all her family had a check .. I’m glad I did even though I still need to keep close to the loo.
Gravedodger – there are clear policy differences between National and UnitedFuture. Take for example 1080, UF are pushing strongly for a total ban of 1080, interim measures will be to push to ramp up replacement pest control options.
Viking2 – says: “all of the above and I should point out that the value at which you now become a rich prick has dropped.
Cullen called it at $66k. Won’t be long and we will all be rich pricks including those on the dole.”
Of course – silly me. The principle of dragging everyone down to the lowest common denominator…. something that only a moron could think is a good idea.
Can someone explain to me the joke where you replace R with W when talking about Russell Norman or the Greens?
Not that I indulge in the practice Ryan, but let me have a crack at explaining.
I think it’s a dig at the constant self-portrayal by left-wingers (and especially the Greens) of being really, really, really caring people – certainly far more caring than we stone hearted conservatives.
In that respect people who substitute the W for the R are mocking this image by matching it to things like doe-eyed cartoon characters and pull-string dolls that emit noises such as I WUV YOU, parents doing the whole Goo goo gaa gaa routine with defenceless babies, and of course little kids showing their love of Mother Nature by scragging helpless kittens and puppies while making statements of degraded pronunciation such as they’re thoooooo cute.
While it’s tempting to join the world of calls and puts I decided back in 2010 to keep things simple by just dumping everything I still had on the S&P500 (e.g. kids college finds – ha, ha, ha) once the index had coasted back to its pre-crash levels on the great tides of QE I – QE II.
Pete George – “UF are pushing strongly for a total ban of 1080″
Why?
Because it’s a poison. It kills native birds, stock and pets. It causes extreme suffering. Not enough is known about it’s residual effect – “in the natural New Zealand environment its decomposition rates and persistence are unknown.”
Officially it’s benefits are said to outweigh it’s dangers but finding an alternative for the benefits without the same dangers – and unknowns – is surely a good aim.
mikenmild, UF still have strong representation from hunting and fishing interests, who sort of like to think we could do more to live up to our supposed clean green image.
Continuing 1080 at current rates without developing alternatives is very risky. What if overseas meat markets decided it wasn’t acceptable?
Mike – so what you’re suggesting that UF”S political policy is formulated to appease special interest lobby groups as opposed to being a reflection of their constitutional philosophy of responsible governance.
Jaba. Good to hear it went well, and you know where you are with conditions you have to monitor. Best wishes for your sister. I believe we should have effective bowel and prostate cancer screening programmes. I got the Noro virus the same day as a colonoscopy. I slept in the bathroom for two days. :0
Pete George. I remember the daffodils outside the Wilson’s distillery this time of the year.
UF have the end goal of phasing out 1080 while ramping up other proven measures of pest control in a controlled switchover. In my opinion it could be that an interim measure could be to allow individual communities to manage their optimum approach to pest control. 1080 is anathema to some regions. Others aren’t so phased. If 1080 was so great we wouldn’t need to be using it so prolifically after 30 years of use.
Scott Chris – what significance does “occurring naturally” have?
Yes, it is ironic that DOC is so much in favour of 1080. It does help manage predators that can otherwise be devastating, but it has it’s collateral damage as well. In some conditions it can remain in the environment for months.
I wonder what would happen if a private company, say a mining company, wanted to do some development that would only kill, say, a quarter of the population of a protected species in the area.
Stuff has reported that another man has been charged over the Waiouru medals theft: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/5542200/Man-arrested-for-stealing-800-military-medals
This man has voluntarily returned from Australia to face the charges. In an earlier story, Stuff reported that the other man convicted for the theft was making accusations about his lawyer, Greg Comeskey, trying to keep the reward money. Comeskey was reported in that story as being in Australia. Coincidence?
From Andrei’s link – “Our much traveled ex-Minister of Education, more latterly opposition spokesit for Education and even more latterly an independent MP is off to greener pastures. He is off to Kabul apparently at the behest of the United Nations to tackle corruption there.”
Thing is, New Zealand’s level of corruption is negligible relative to the rest of the world, so I suspect Chris Carter may have something to contribute. That said, I see your point if you are linking his association with Helen Clarke and the seemingly corrupt practice of securing jobs for your old mates. Ironic if it’s true.
Perhaps his advice to the Afghans will be that New Zealand’s practice of corruption is subtle.
Forecast by Ken RING on 26th August……..Upcoming dates for possible increases in seismic action are
28th Aug – 2nd Sept,
14th-17th and (particularly) 23rd-28th Sept.
Oct 12th-13th and 26th-27th.
If anyone needs more detail,
On 28th Aug, there is a Neptune-Earth-Sun alignment, on 29th Aug, the new moon crosses the equator, and 3 days later it is the seventh closest moon for the year. ………………..Couple of decent jolts in Earthquake city right on the mark. http://www.predictweather.com/ArticleShow.aspx?ID=361&type=home
Pete – 1080 is a blunt instrument. So is nitrogen fertilizer. The reason Dunne should pay heed to the Parliamentary Commissioner is that she has weighed up the benefits and drawbacks of using 1080 and recommended *increasing* its use.
I suspect you know this anyway, but you have to tow the line. Good luck.
Ken Ring is a fraud. There is no correlation between his predictions and actual recorded observations better than random chance. You may as well consult an astrologer.
Furthermore, there is no scientific basis to his method.
There are so many elements to the story Scott Chris – his own history of well, shall we say, looesness with his work credit card and his predilection for finding important conferences and so forth in exotic climes which he simply has to attend, with his um er on the taxpayers dime.
Then of course there is the element of him not having yet resigned from Parliament – which is a detail which should have been taken care of before the story broke to avoid the appearance that it could get overlooked somehow and well …. Even more unfortunate appearance wise might be the leave application he has submitted according to the story.
And then of course there is the destination itself and his lifestyle which might seem, on the face of it incompatible.
And in the background somewhere looming large – HELEN
@backster – Ring is a charlatan who is trying to prey on the jittery nature of Cantabs to sell his crock ‘predictions’. Indeed, making a prediction of aftershocks in a City where there have been many, many aftershocks since the big events (and then claiming that he has knowledge based on phases of the moon), can hardly be described as a revelation but simply a statement of the obvious. Of course CHC will experience aftershocks for some time to come – its all about the plates settling after such an upheaval.
I’ll predict now that both Wellington and the Manawatu will experience gale force winds and that Auckland will experience bucket loads of rain in the next month. My prediction will have the same chances of being on the money as Ring’s – but at least mine won’t generate fear amongst the ill informed and the vulnerable in Christchurch and beyond.
In fact, I heard NewstalkZB host Mike Yardley say that, as soon as this crap hit the airwaves in Christchurch this week, the lines were hot with callers wanting Ring to just STFU.
Mike – Wiki – It is commonly thought that its origins lie in the British House of Commons where sword-strapped members were instructed to stand behind lines that were two sword-lengths apart from their political rivals in order to restore decorum. However, there is no record of a time when Members of Parliament were allowed to bring swords into the Chamber.
I reckon they nicked it off the sailors and misspelled tow, toe.
It’s often said, among other stories, that it comes from ancient practice in the House of Commons, the lower house of the British parliament. A pair of lines is painted on the floor that separates the two front benches, replicating ones in earlier chambers (the Commons is strong on tradition). The rule used to be that during debates members could step no nearer the opposing benches than the line on their side of the floor. This dates from a period when members habitually wore swords and the rule was designed to deter them from getting into potentially fatal confrontations (the lines are traditionally two sword lengths apart).
Pete – what is Dunne’s attitude towards following the recommendations of a parliamentary commissioner?
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Peter Dunne said Jan Wright was stepping outside her role in providing this opinion piece. I believe Peter said it was time she hopped back into line and provided unbiased research.
A couple of points to note:
A report isn’t unbiased if it begins “I was surprised to find out how good 1080 was”. – opinion
The report finishes
“We cannot allow our forests to die”. opinion boo hoo
Re Jan Wright: Its a case of: “if she’s got a fancy title it must be the truth”.
To me – you can paint a turd pink but it’s still gonna end up in the sewer. And that’s my opinion
@milkenmild as I read the story, the man who has returned to face charges is accused of a totally different set of thefts in a totally different time frame to the ones that were perpetrated by the people represented by Comesky.
Pete George – I believe the expression is bombing the village to save the village. Good point about the likely outcry if a private company wanted to dose our forests.
As for 1080 being a naturally occurring substance – Everything occurs naturally (it occurs in a closed system called the universe.)
Wussell talks wubbish. And if he did not talk so much wubbish, he would not get the piss take. The man is psyco. The Earthquake will be paid for by the Taxpayer anyway, Wussel is just pissing off the rich pricks.
Oh yeah, a Wok is what you use to kill a Wabbit when you have’nt got a Wifle
So does Peter Dunne have anything other than opinion upon which to base his judgement that 1080 is a pernicious poison worthy of banning?
The substance of the report was scientific even if the commissioner’s summary was opinionated. However, I understand that MPs are often too busy to read the detail, so I suggest Mr Dunne keep an open mind until he has read the report an is thus, fully informed.
“To me – you can paint a turd pink but it’s still gonna end up in the sewer. And that’s my opinion”
Yours? Has political glibness written all over it.
!080 is fine for knocking over possums until we can find a better, safer way Scott. It’s the fucking duplicity of the wankers at DOC who refuse to put deer repellant (at a very small extra cost) in it yet pretend they are not targeting deer.
That has pissed off a lot of hunters who see deer as a resource that can bring in serious dollars to our benighted little land.
It’s not the 1080 so much but the bloody hypocrisy of DOC that has caused the 1080 uproar. The silly little commissioner person is just following the party line.
I forgot your new lot were agin 1080 Pete! Whose your Hutt South candidate?
I will vote for him/her/ (not it)…… I know UF would never put an IT up as a candidate!!
Monique – look forward to seeing them. I do hope they are not opinion based and provide irrefutable scientific evidence that 1080 lingers undegraded in the environment and that a causal link has been identified between the use of 1080 and illness in humans.
FANTASTIC!
The Crown has been given the green light to seek recovery of the $1.2 Million from the morons who damaged the Waihopai base.
I don’t mean to rain on your parade but looking at the background of the protestors they’re as poor as church mice, which in at least one case is pretty much what he is.
As an example, here’s their valiant Australian spokesman – Deep Green Catholic Bryan Law (who has posted here as “Bryla” – doing some damage to a Tiger attack helicopter in Australia recently, having ridden up to it on large tricycle.
Likewise for his mates in NZ, although a lifetime deduction of any benefits they get would be of interest. In Law’s case something that cuts his diet would be best, as he looks like he will soon also be costing the Australian Health system a fair chunk of cash.
25% more my arse Scott. That’s DOC liarspeak for you.
80% of the cost of 1080 is in aircraft time the poison cost fuck all.
Don’t believe DOC bullshit. That’s why they have no credibility on this issue.
They have their official line and they will stick to it come hell or high water otherwise they would have to try and justify the crap they have fed us on this subject for the last forty years.
Sale of body parts is always an option for all four of them
Possibly, though if it were legs the government would likely have to provide mobility services.
Can you imagine the video of four guys mounting a coordinated electric wheelchair attack on a military chopper? Way cooler than the giant tricycle – it might even gain them supporters, perish the thought!
Make the pieces of shit pay for their crimes, if they have no cash well they can have the option of choosing what bits they want to sell to pay the costs.
I liked the bit where his lawyer said he had not yet been assigned to the case by legal aid and was not able to receive disclosure on behalf of Masters: “This is no minor matter and I could not undertake it unless there is some compensation, all be it at the marginal rate provided by the ministry.”
The most valuable coin in the world sits in the lobby of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York in lower Manhattan. It’s Exhibit 18E, secured in a bulletproof glass case with an alarm system and an armed guard nearby. The 1933 Double Eagle, considered one of the rarest and most beautiful coins in America, has a face value of $20 — and a market value of $7.6 million. It was among the last batch of gold coins ever minted by the U.S. government. The coins were never issued; most of the nearly 500,000 cast were melted down to bullion in 1937.
Most, but not all. Some of the coins slipped out of the Philadelphia Mint before then. No one knows for sure exactly how they got out or even how many got out. The U.S. Secret Service, responsible for protecting the nation’s currency, has been pursuing them for nearly 70 years, through 13 Administrations and 12 different directors. The investigation has spanned three continents and involved some of the most famous coin collectors in the world, a confidential informant, a playboy king, and a sting operation at the Waldorf Astoria in Manhattan. It has inspired two novels, two nonfiction books, and a television documentary. And much of it has centered around a coin dealer, dead since 1990, whose shop is still open in South Philadelphia, run by his 82-year-old daughter.
1st baby: *You begin wearing maternity clothes as soon as your doctor confirms your pregnancy.*
2nd baby: *You wear your regular clothes for as long as possible.
* 3rd baby: *Your maternity clothes ARE your
regular clothes.
Preparing for the Birth:
1st baby: *You practice your breathing religiously.*
2nd baby: *You don’t bother because you remember that last time breathing didn’t do a thing.*
3rd baby*: You ask for an epidural in your eighth month.
The Layette*:*
1st baby: *You pre-wash newborn’s clothes, color coordinate them, and fold them neatly in the baby’s little bureau.*
2nd baby: *You check to make sure that the clothes are clean and discard only the ones with the darkest stains.*
3rd baby: *Boys can wear pink, can’t they?
Worries:
1st baby: *At the first sign of distress–a whimper, a frown–you pick up the baby.*
2nd baby: *You pick the baby up when her wails threaten to wake your firstborn.*
3rd baby: *You teach your three-year-old how to rewind the mechanical swing.
Dummy:
1st baby: *If the dummy falls on the floor, you put it away until you can go home and wash and boil it.*
2nd baby: *When the dummy falls on the floor, you squirt it off with some juice from the baby’s bottle.*
3rd baby: *You wipe it off on your shirt and pop it back in.
Nappies:
1st baby: *You change your baby’s nappy every hour, whether they need it or not.*
2nd baby: *You change their nappy every two to three hours, if needed.*
3rd baby: *You try to change their nappy before others start to complain about the smell or you see it sagging to their knees.
Activities:
1st baby: *You take your infant to Baby Gymnastics, Baby Swing, and Baby Story Hour.*
2nd baby: *You take your infant to Baby Gymnastics.*
3rd baby: *You take your infant to the supermarket and the dry cleaner.
Going Out:
1st baby: *The first time you leave your baby with a sitter, you call home five times.*
2nd baby: *Just before you walk out the door, you remember to leave a number where you can be reached.*
3rd baby: *You leave instructions for the sitter to call only if she sees blood.
At Home:
1st baby*: You spend a good bit of every day just gazing at the baby.*
2nd baby: *You spend a bit of everyday watching to be sure your older child isn’t squeezing, poking, or hitting the baby.
3rd baby: *You spend a little bit of every day hiding from the children.
Swallowing Coins:
1st child: *When first child swallows a coin, you rush the child to the hospital and demand x-rays.*
2nd child: *When second child swallows a coin, you carefully watch for the coin to pass.*
3rd child: *When third child swallows a coin, you deduct it from his pocket money.
Masters would not have a job if it wasn’t for the arseholes he supports. Therefore he has a life carreer as long as the arsewipes are allowed to continue on their path
“Masters would not have a job if it wasn’t for the arseholes he supports. Therefore he has a life carreer as long as the arsewipes are allowed to continue on their path”
If we were to dispense with the adversarial system of juries and lawyers and adopted a judge based inquisitorial system, this kind of thing would not happen. The whole process would be much more efficient, and the truth of the matter more likely to be established.
Chad and Mike were a pair of winos. They woke up with the shakes one afternoon to find that they only had forty cents between them. Chad began to climb the walls, but Mike said calmly,” Look old man, give me the forty cents and I’ll show you how we can drink free all day.”
So they went into a delicatessen, Chad bought a frankfurter and placed it in Mike’s fly. Next, they went into a near by bar and ordered drinks. When the bartender asked for his money Chad dropped to his knees and started sucking on the frankfurter. The bartender screamed,” You damn queers get out of here.”
They repeated this scene in bar after bar, until they had visited a dozen of them. Finally Chad complained, “Listen Mike, it is a great scheme but my knees are getting sore from hitting the floor so much!”
Mike shook his head. “You should complain,” said Mike, “We lost the hotdog after the second bar!!”
“Oh, No!” he gasped as he surveyed the disaster before him. Never in his
40 years of life had he seen anything like it. How anyone could have
survived he did not know.
He could only hope that somewhere amid the overwhelming destruction he
would find his 16-year-old son. Only the slim hope of finding Danny kept
him from turning and fleeing the scene. He took a deep breath and
proceeded.
Walking was virtually impossible with so many things strewn across his
path. He moved ahead slowly.
“Danny! Danny!” he whispered to himself. He tripped and
almost fell several times. He heard someone, or something, move. At
least he thought he did. Perhaps, he was just hoping he did. He shook
his head and felt his gut tighten. He couldn’t understand how this could
have happened.
There was some light but not enough to see very much.
Something cold and wet brushed against his hand.
He jerked it away.
In desperation, he took another step then cried out, “Danny!”
From a nearby pile of unidentified material, he heard his son. “Yes,
Dad,” he said, in a voice so weak it could hardly be heard.
“It’s time to get up and get ready for school,” the man sighed, “and,
for heaven’s sake, clean up your room!”
This might wipe the grin of the $55000000 dollar grinning pm, good or bad shit it was a USA spy center and kiwis hate govt shit and smarly key is the face of smiling crap butt licking USA adulation
Crown will pursue trio for over $1m of damageYahoo! New Zealand
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The Crown has been awarded the right to pursue three men who broke into the Waihopai Spy Base for over $1 million in damages.
Teacher Adrian Leason, friar Peter Murnane and farmer Sam Land are being chased for $1,229,289.
The trio were found not guilty in April 2010 by a jury of burglary and wilful damage of the base near Blenheim in 2008.
They cut through electric fences and slashed through an inflatable dome covering a satellite dish.
They used a “claim of right” defence and said they were saving Iraqi lives by disrupting satellite transmissions.
The Crown lodged an application at the High Court in Wellington earlier this month.
The trio will now be held liable for the damage they caused.
Associate Judge David Gendall said the trios arguments faced an “insurmountable hurdle” as they were effectively inviting the Court to authorise their general right of self-help, Stuff has reported.
“At one level this might be seen simply as a mask for anarchy. The notion that the Court might exonerate vigilante action is highly problematic.
“To take this approach as I see it would inevitably lead to unacceptable precedents being set in a range of areas.”
One day, during a lesson on proper grammar, the teacher asked for a show of hands from those who could use the word “beautiful” in the same sentence twice. First, she called on little Suzie, who responded with,
“My father bought my mother a beautiful dress and she looked beautiful in it.”
“Very good, Suzie,” replied the teacher.
She then called on little Michael. “My mommy planned a beautiful banquet and it turned out beautifully,” he said.
“Excellent, Michael!”
Then, the teacher called on little Johnny. “Last night, at the dinner table, my sister told my father that she was pregnant, and he said, ‘Beautiful, ……just fucking beautiful!’”
I’ve been following your trials of the past few day….it brought back some memories I have of the same experience. To me the worst was the litres of prep you have to drink & its effects. Dave Berry, who I’ve quoted below, wrote an article on it for the Miami Herald:
“In accordance with my instructions, I didn’t eat any solid food that day; all I had was chicken broth, which is basically water, only with less flavor.
Then, in the evening, I took the MoviPrep. You mix two packets of powder together in a one-liter plastic jug, then, you fill it with lukewarm water… (For those unfamiliar with the metric system, a liter is about 32 gallons). Then you have to drink the whole jug. This takes about an hour, because MoviPrep tastes – and here I am being kind – like a mixture of goat spit and urinal cleanser, with just a hint of lemon.
The instructions for MoviPrep, clearly written by somebody with a great sense of humor, state that after you drink it, ‘a loose, watery bowel movement may result.’ This is kind of like saying that after you jump off your roof, you may experience contact with the ground.
MoviPrep is a nuclear laxative. I don’t want to be too graphic, here, but: have you ever seen a space-shuttle launch? This is pretty much the MoviPrep experience, with you as the shuttle. There are times when you wish the commode had a seat belt. You spend several hours pretty much confined to the bathroom, spurting violently. You eliminate everything. And then, when you figure you must be totally empty, you have to drink another liter of MoviPrep, at which point, as far as I can tell, your bowels travel into the future and start eliminating food that you have not even eaten yet.
After an action-packed evening, I finally got to sleep. “
Mary had a little skirt
with splits right up the sides
and everywhere that Mary went
the boys could see her thighs.
Mary had another skirt
’twas split right up the front
…But she didn’t wear that one often
Little Miss Muffet sat on a tuffet,
her clothes all tattered and torn.
It wasn’t the spider that crept up beside her
’twas Little Boy Blue with a horn.
Simple Simon met a pieman going to the fair.
Said Simple Simon to the pieman
“What have u got there?”
Said the pieman unto Simon
Pies you dickhead.
Mary had a little lamb
it ran into a pylon.
10,000 volts went up its arse
and turned its wool to nylon
Jack and Jill
went up the hill
to have a little fun.
Jill, the dill,
forgot her pill,
and now they have a son.
Little Johnny’s next door neighbor went to see a psychiatrist. “The other day,” the woman said, “I happened to see my daughter and the little boy next door both naked, examining each other’s bodies.”
“Well, that’s not unusual,” smiled the psychiatrist, “I wouldn’t worry about something as normal as that.”
“But I AM worried doctor.” insisted the woman. “I don’t think it’s normal at all, and neither does my daughter’s husband.”
Three old men were sitting around at the nursing home, discussing ageing.
The 80 year-old said, “The best thing that could happen to me would just to be able to have a good pee. I stand there for twenty minutes, and it dribbles and hurts. I have to go over and over again.”
The 85 year-old said, “The best thing that could happen to me is if I could have one good bowel movement. I take every kind of laxative I can get my hands on and it’s still a problem.”
Then the 90 year-old said, “That’s not my problem. Every morning at 6:00 am sharp, I have a good long pee. At 6:30 am sharp I have a great bowel movement.
The best thing that could happen to me would be if I could wake up before 7:00 am.”
On hearing that her elderly grandfather had died, Jenny went straight to visit her grandmother. When she asked how her grandpa had died, her grandma explained, not holding back anything of course, “He had a heart attack during sex, Sunday morning!” Horrified, Jenny suggested that screwing at the age of 94 was surely asking for trouble! “Oh no,” her grandma replied. “We had sex every Sunday morning in time with the church bells!” “In with the dings, out with the dongs!” She paused to wipe away a tear, “If it wasn’t for that damn Ice Cream Truck, he’d still be alive!!!”
I do begrudge the fact that when our entire household comes down with the lurgy I can no longer just go to the chemist and buy drugs that will enable us to function.
Fuck off interfering government, there’s more ephedrine coming in via the Triads through our ports than all the pills in all the pharmacies in New Zealand, more knee jerk wanking legislation
WHEN IS IT CLIMATE, AND WHEN IS IT WEATHER?
Simple. Irene was Climate, a monster storm clearly brought about by human changes in the planet.
Stories like below, on the other hand, are mere randomly-varying Weather..
Andy, hurricanes and storms have always exsisted. Your claim that Irene was caused by AGW is just a lie – I was going to use a less pointed term but, if the cap fits, Andy…
The good news is that even with the USA included, less than 10% describe themselves as skeptics.
“Andy, hurricanes and storms have always exsisted. Your claim that Irene was caused by AGW is just a lie – I was going to use a less pointed term but, if the cap fits, Andy…”
My claim?
Now that’s funny.
AGW is a myth, a scam, a money making sheme….
The AGW prophets (“Repend, the end is nigh!”) are proclaiming this to be the punishment for the non-believers….
“The good news is that even with the USA included, less than 10% describe themselves as skeptics.”
Well Whoopty Doo
The “argumentum ad populum” is alive and well.
“The Crown has been given the green light to seek recovery of the $1.2 Million from the morons who damaged the Waihopai base.”
Hopefully, the Crown will chase them jointly and severally – these vandals need to pay for the consequences of their actions. If required, hit their salaries until it their debt is paid off in full. Force the sale of assets they may own (farms, homes, cars etc).
This decision is good news and a timely reminder to all placard waving dissidents that they need to be accountable for their actions and that they can no longer hide behind the skirts of others.
LITTLE JOHNNY ON MATH:
Little Johnny returns from school and says he got an “F” in arithmetic.
“Why?” asks the father.
“The teacher asked me, ‘How much is 2×3?’” “I said, 6,” replies Johnny. “But that’s right,” said the father.
Johnny continued, “Yeah, but then she asked me, ‘How much is 3×2?’”
“What’s the ****ing difference?” asks the father.
“That’s what I said!” exclaimed Johnny.
Munich Re believes that weather extremes such as the massive floods experienced by China since early June are due to the advance of climate change. The trend towards increasingly higher losses from natural catastrophe losses is primarily due to socio-economic factors. The population is growing, more and more people are moving into exposed areas, and at the same time property values are also rising. Yet it would seem that the growing number of weather-related catastrophes can only be explained by climate change. The view that weather extremes are more frequent and intense due to global warming is in keeping with current scientific findings as set out in the Fourth IPCC Assessment Report.
As Prof. Peter Höppe, Head of Munich Re’s Geo Risks Research unit, emphasised: “The devastating floods in China are of a dramatic dimension – a phenomenon that has unfortunately occurred in China with increasing frequency over the last few decades. Every year, millions of Chinese are victims of weather-related natural catastrophes. And the risk is steadily growing, for climate change harbours the potential for torrential downpours while the risk of drought in certain regions is also on the rise.”"
And an interesting statistic they show is that over the period from 1980-2010 (see link provided), the number of weather catastrophes in China increased almost fivefold.
The major problem facing the world today is not AGW its human over population.
The west has been responsible for exporting its modern technology to society’s that are not ready to except them.
medical treatments that prolong life and decrees mortality.
Agricultural advances that increase food production.
These technology have in the west encourage a stable population level as western civilization has evolved to compensate for the effects.
In the rest of the world this has not developed driving a massive explosion in population.
AGW has the potential to negate this distortion by regulating the population of the third world due to drought flood and other natural catastrophes
The earth isn’t over populated. Most of it is empty.
I’ve noticed people who claim this don’t think THEY are the problem – it’s always someone else causing the “overpopulation” (generally a brown person of some sort).
So the repeated calls for aid to the Sudan, Ethiopia, Africa, Korea etc etc that have been happening over the last fifty years or more are the fault of the west. That fact that civilized world limits its population growth is causing the starving millions. Thanks for your intelligent dismissal of my argument. The world will not have famine and pestilence if the west just blames its self.
August 31st, 2011 at 8:10 am
Fish of the day?
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 8:12 am
It’s not about Greenpeace. It’s about sensible management of fish stocks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_stock
Forget politics and use your brain.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 8:13 am
So according to Hooten the Nat’s are likely to offer a seat at the cabinet table to the dirty stinking bloody Greens.
At what stage do National party supporters tell Neville Key that enough is enough, or are all of them like the brain dead Adolf and will put up with anything just as long as their team is in power.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 8:13 am
Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t 25.7% Labour’s worst poll under Phil Goff’s leadership?
http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2011/08/yet-another-day-yet-another-poll.html
And two more months where the Greens take 4 percentage points from Labour, and the Greens become the main opposition party; could it be any worse for Labour?
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 8:14 am
Yep they are stinking like poor old Sandford’s Tuna.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 8:15 am
I hate to say this but it looks like Big Bruv is right.
A word on the All Blacks: Cheats
MARK REASON
Last updated 05:00 31/08/2011
OPINION: If New Zealand go out of a consecutive World Cup because of another dodgy refereeing decision, they will have no one to blame but themselves. The All Blacks no longer even bother to bend the laws. They set out to deliberately cheat.
For only one piffling syllable, CHEAT is an awfully big word. “Who are you calling a cheat?” demands the card-playing gunslinger, just before the mandatory murder and the five aces sliding from the sleeve.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/5535927/A-word-on-the-All-Blacks-Cheats
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 8:16 am
Interesting comparison here of the Japanese and US economies – Three charts.
The last one shows an eerie match between the S&P (1990 on), Nikkei (1979 on). In some respects it should not be a surprise, with similar economic theories and strong connections between the economies. Still, it’s a pointer to the future of the S&P (and the US economy) if they don’t do something different from now – and from what Japan did.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 8:17 am
And two more months where the Greens take 4 percentage points from Labour, and the Greens become the main opposition party; could it be any worse for Labour?
IV2:
You have the wrong end of the stick mate.
Its not labour that has the problem its the NZ voter and even worse the NZ Taxpayer.
Greens and the Nats. Keys latest strategy against ACT.
Smells like stinking rotten fish to me.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 8:18 am
Who benefits from the fish quota most.?
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 8:25 am
Goff told Rachael Smalley (looking hot this morning by the way, her not him) that Labour would pay for the extra Billion(s) for the CHCH rebuild with the increase in tax on rich pricks, stop people like the 2 doctors who had tax avoidance schemes and the Capital Gains Tax. How many times can someone spend the same money?
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 8:28 am
and the polls are making us more worried I feel. The demise of Labour is fantastic BUT the Greens are even worse .. good god, imagine nutters like them actually having more influence on policy. Take on board their environmental concerns by all means BUT!!!!
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 8:32 am
Viking2 (5,003) Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 8:15 am
I hate to say this but it looks like Big Bruv is right.
V2, fibbing will get you nowhere!
Big Bruv, as a committed National voter (since April 28 from memory) I will vote National.
Only Key offering Hatfield or Brash a part in government would make me think again.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 8:36 am
So, National well north of 50%. If thats maintained on election night, heres a challenge for you JK – you have the mandate, act. Yes, we the people will have spoken, get us out of this mess, make this the second term that we all look back on in 20 years time and say yes, that was the turning point. The point that turned us from a nation of people with middle class welfare as part of our bedrock into a nation that takes opportunity and runs with it. That does look after those who deserve our support, but spurns those who are too lazy to work.
In all likelihood you will get that mandate. Are you and your colleagues smart enough to take it?
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 8:57 am
Viking, Mark Reason’s column deserves to rest in the same bin as the (extensive) reporting about the penguin. Fluff and garbage pandering to headlines but without substance or meaning. Guaranteed to garner outrage and response on a slow news day. Ignore and it will go away.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 9:01 am
Big Bruv, It’s easy to stop National offering positions to the watermelons….. Just party vote ACT, instead of National. Although, most National voters are too thick not to get taken in by the medias demonisation of all things ACT, and the lefts rewriting of history.
Witness Adolf and Inventory2, who are continually pissing in Key’s pocket. Then we have idiots like Shunda telling us that ACT will send NZ to hell in a handcart faster than a labour/greens combo. Yet he cannot rebut a single ACT economic policy.
Classic examples of media brain-washing and typical kiwi lack of critical thinking.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 9:06 am
Who benefits from the fish quota most.?
I know the answer is racist (in toads eyes anyway), but there is only one answer, and it is Maori.
Edit: I should calrify that, the Maori elite benefit the most, not the common Maori.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 9:17 am
its amazing how brain washed the public is against ACT!. especially chicks.
Dimes outta control at the moment, banging randoms all over the place. a lot of dating. I always manage to ask about politics though (unlike my deadbeat brother who would claim to be a helen clarke fan just to get laid).
They all say the same thing – ACT! is evil.
So i quiz them – really how so??
answer – they just are.
they have no idea what act stands for, just know they are evil.
I get that response from educated chicks too.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 9:22 am
Tom Hunter @ 8:16 am. It is too late.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 9:25 am
Exactly dime!
They couldn’t do anything like critical thinking, to sit down and spend 30mins reading ACT policy and understanding it. They are so fucked in the head from the indoctrination they get in our school, they can’t see all the subversive anti-ACT (Capitalism) pro-Communism in our media.
They think John Campbell is a hero for fucks sake!
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 9:27 am
and the polls are making us more worried I feel. The demise of Labour is fantastic BUT the Greens are even worse ..
Easy answer, if you don’t want Greens to get too big you should consider supporting the sensible alternative – UnitedFuture. It’s looking more like the only safe option alongside National.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 9:36 am
Pete
Vote:With UF at 0.1% in this latest poll, I can only admire your optimism.
August 31st, 2011 at 9:41 am
mm – it’s very early days in the campaign for UF, it won’t be apparent until the last week or two.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 9:45 am
Jimbob
You’re probably right but I’m an eternal optimist (even as a I prepare for the worst), so I’ll wait for November 2012. If Obama, Geithner and Bernanke are still there in 2013 then we’ll know for sure.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 9:51 am
tom
Vote:It’s hard to see the presidential election next year leading to any fundamental changes in the US. I’d consider both parties there to be very conservative (in the sense of commitment to the status quo).
August 31st, 2011 at 10:44 am
Agreed, mainly because the “free” stuff has been locked in for some decades now, not to mention pork for one’s district and the stalemate that has existed now for three decades between lower taxes and more free government services.
But I think the atomic debt bomb has changed most of that, with the approaching thermonuclear entitlement bomb set to change even more. We shall see.
One of the things I’ve often seen left-wingers pull is to say that the NZ National party is much like the US Democrat Party. While there is some truth to this (perhaps more everyday), it’s always been a tactic designed to portray the US right as a bunch of extremists – when in fact they are simply representative of a centre-right country (as NZ is centre-left).
With that in mind one could say that both major parties in NZ are very conservative in the sense of commitment to the status quo.
But I don’t hear many leftists claiming that Labour, the Greens, Alliance, Anderton et al are conservatives.
In other words it’s just more debate framing: one type of revolutionary is good while another type of revolutionary is bad. Are the Tea Partiers revolutionaries because they want to cut down much of the status quo – or are they “reactionaries” for wanting to limit the government to the size of earlier ages (like 1990 perhaps)?
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 10:52 am
Big Bruv,
“So according to Hooten the Nat’s are likely to offer a seat at the cabinet table to the dirty stinking bloody Greens.”
In other words, it is merely an opinion. And one, I would argue, that is fairly unlikely to be true. Get a grip.
That said, while there is much I do not like about the Greens, there are some things I do like. I personally would not have a problem with this.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 10:53 am
You really have to feel sorry for our friends in Canterbury.
Not only have they had to endure earthquakes, aftershocks, huge infrastructural damage, massive inconvenience to their daily lives, but yesterday they had to add the fact that head grinch and husband descended into CHC on NZ515 yesterday.
Poor buggers.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 10:55 am
Well, I see the Tea Party as revolutionary, in the sense that they want something radically different from the status quo. Whether they actually attract sufficient support to see the Contract from America or similar agenda implemented is another question. A possible outcome is that Tea Party supported candidates in Congress make for an even more polarised legislature, putting the compromises necessary to achieve meaningful change even further out of reach.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 11:10 am
Here’s another good idea for Labour.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/gadgets/5538424/Germany-introduces-sex-tax-meters
A sort of indirect tax on rich pricks.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 11:10 am
It seems that ‘The Man’ Anthony Mundine is correct in saying that there is an agenda at
Vote:work against Sonny Bill Williams, and it looks like its working.
The Herald today asks, ‘Who is the best player Nonu or Williams ?’
Most of the sheeple who are against SBW cite his ‘disloyalty’ thats it. No reference to
who is the better player at all.
Who is pursuing this agenda and why ?
Is it the left footing mickey doolan mafia within the NZRFU because he is a Muslim ?
Not that ? What is it then ? Has Ted fallen in love with Nonu ?
Chris Rattue is correct when he points out that the NZRU is bonkers the way they are handling this.
Is there sum sing rong with Henry, Smith, Carter and McCaw together in a joint venture ?
August 31st, 2011 at 11:16 am
V2 @ 8.15
Vote:must be a world cup coming …. predictable that english hacks will come out with this on the even of the rwc.
yawn. next ….
August 31st, 2011 at 11:19 am
bereal …… are you for real?
Vote:sbw was very good in the early part of the season. he has fallen away dramatically in the late part of the season. nonu has been very good in the ab strip in all of the tests he has played. he was the incumbent from the past 2-3 seasons. sbw has to displace him by being better. he has not been better.
why would henry and co go out on a limb and bring him to nz and then not pick him due to a hidden agenda. silly piffle.
if a tweet from mundine is the basis for a conspiracy theory ….
August 31st, 2011 at 11:35 am
It’s hard to see SBW figuring much in the RWC. He’s clearly behind Nonu in ability and current form, and lacks the versatility to make the bench for the big matches. His agent and Mundine obviously don’t agree, but not everyone has to buy tickets to the Sonny Bill circus.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 11:42 am
Nah, Money-Bill showed his loyalty when re-signed with the Doggies in March 2007 with a 5 year contract worth over $2.5 million and he said:
“I’m happy to be staying here with the boys and I’m happy to be here with the Club. I want to be a Bulldog for life. The club is just as much a part of me as I am of the club. I love the Bulldogs.”
In July 2008, 16 months later, a big ‘fuck you’ to the club and his fans and he weaselled his way out of his contract and bailed to Toulon.
So fuck you Money-Bill, follow your mentor and take up a new career beating up old men in the boxing ring.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 11:45 am
@bereal – the issue has everything to do with his contract. SBW’s manager [Khoder Nasser] negotiated a personal contract with a competitor product to an existing AB sponsor and when the contract was passed by the NZRU they pointed out the conflict. So Nasser then suggests to the NZRU that they pay SBW the equivalent he would have earned from the competitor and the NZRU [quite rightly] says get stuffed.
This is the same Khoder Nasser who abused Rob Penny and Tabai Matson when SBW was dropped – apparently Nasser included the pearl: “No-one drops Sonny-Bill” in his tirade that was witnessed by many at a Christchurch eatery.
Nasser has tried to negotiate an impossible deal from a position of weakness – and failed. SBW has been a disappointment – in fact, based on his efforts against Australia in Brisbane, he should consider himself lucky that he was selected in the squad at all.
Nonu has emerged from the toxic spill that is called the Hammett Hurricanes and has thrived under Henry / Hansen and Smith. Without doubt, Nonu is the automatic pick for 12 [alongside Smith at 13]. SBW would be lucky to make the bench.
And Mundine – who cares what he thinks? He is a complete stalk.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 11:54 am
First time I have seen New Zealand featured on Fox news since the earthquake. Yep on the Shep Smith programme last night was our own international immigrant HAPPY LEGS looking immaculate and well fed as he commenced the return journey to his homeland.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 12:02 pm
Depending on the outcome of the election, who gets what, and what the percentages are, there could be a major shakeup in the political system.
Vote:Labour may have no choice but to amalgamate with the Greens ie Labour Greens, just to stay in touch.
Whether Labour or the Greens are willing to merge their brands is entirely up to them. Labour could tough it out on the cross benches for another term and risk losing more support, thereby weakening their position further, or they could merge with the Greens whom are growing and attracting support from a generation that has no philosophical connection to Labour.
August 31st, 2011 at 12:07 pm
There’s some hope for meaningful definitions then. I agree, and I think your possible outcome is actually what we do have as a result of the 2010 election.
At least on the grass roots right there is little doubt that the GOP would have “compromised” with Obama on a whole host of things since 2009 had they not been stopped by the Tea Party, even before the mid-term elections – dating right back to the protests at the townhall meetings of many representatives in the summer of 2009.
But I think that in certain situations there is no room for compromise, that it may make things worse by actually leading away from “meaningful reform”, and I think the US is now at that point.
The 1990 budget deal with George H W Bush was hailed as a model of such compromise (and still is by many on the left) – except that while taxes were raised, the supposed cut in government spending never happened: it continued it’s slow, relentless rise. Oh – and GHWB got pilloried by the Dems anyway for having broken his promise on taxes. I often think that the US left do not recognise the degree to which the right remember that deal, or appreciate the way it is now viewed as a poisoned chalice. That’s partly why the recent “debt deal” was such a bitter battle. Many on the right, particularly those Tea Party-backed representatives, simply no longer believe in such deals. They’re convinced the left will simply bullshit about spending cuts, whilst locking in future spending with steady, incremental enlargements on existing programs (SCHIP as a prime example), relentlessly focusing on their long-term objectives, and covering the whole thing with the much trumpeted “bi-partisan” agreement that allows them to go over the waterfall holding hands with the stupid GOP.
Similarly NZ compromised it’s way through the 60′s and 70′s into a train wreck economy by the early 1980′s. One of the common complaints of both left and right “extremists” (e.g Jesson) was the degree to which both Labour and National supported the same crap, even as some people at the bottom knew the damned things were failing. I’m not automatically opposed to such an approach – as long as I’m convinced that the whole system is not moving toward a cliff. But by the early 1980′s more and more people were convinced we were at the cliff’s edge and still trundling along in the same way. In that situation the last thing that should be wanted is compromise on the details, yet “tweakers” still abounded, Muldoon merely the most prominent of them. In the same sense I don’t much like revolutions, because they often result in stupid things being done in the heat of the moment. Unfortunately, by 1984, nothing short of a revolution was needed, something many left-wingers bitterly deny to this day, which surely makes them reactionaries.
I often look at people like Peter Dunne and think he would have made a good Holyoake-era MP. Reasonable, pragmatic, common-sense, yada, yada, yada. Winkling out little compromises all over the place: a tweak here and there to a million different rules and regulations. As I see it we’re back in that period. Three years ago I said that Key would be the 21st century Holyoake, but I don’t think that’s anything to crow about.
Of course I note that left-wingers were more than happy to destroy the status quo of National-Labour support for ANZUS, and the general relationship with the US. Compromise bad: revolution good – when those were the issues.
Compromise has simply become, and perhaps always was, just another debate framing word: in the 1970′s it meant that Labour and National could fight over the solution to inflation – the insane Maximum Retail Price scheme – and “compromise” over the details of the rules. Similarly with the stupid regulations on selling petrol in the US – fights over the prescriptive rules. But compromise over the idea of dumping the whole nonsense and letting companies fight it out in a competitive market place? Compromise on “big” ideas – naaaah!
Now we face the same, growing issues with our health, welfare and education systems, as does the US, and if we don’t “compromise” over allowing truly different things to be done in those areas we’ll find ourselves at another cliff edge, revolutionary moment. And lots of ordinary people will get screwed, just like they did during Rogernomics, – and they’ll blame the revolutionaries for having disturbed their cozy world.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 12:12 pm
“Labour may have no choice but to amalgamate with the Greens ie Labour Greens, just to stay in touch.”
Unlikely. The problem is that normally MMP requires coalitions. If Labour merge with the Greens they will still need to find a viable coalition partner. Mana is a one man band and will die when Harawira is finally dumped. UF is also a one man band. So a Labour – Green merger would cripple the Left.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Just look at Aussie toseethe damage the Greens do, second only to Labour. why would we want either of the losers.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Enjoy this. splutter splutter.
Third of Kiwis: Peters good for NZ
By Claire Trevett
12:01 PM Wednesday Aug 31, 2011
Prime Minister John Key won’t work with him, but more than one third of voters think the return of NZ First leader Winston Peters would be good for New Zealand.
Asked whether the return of Mr Peters to Parliament would be positive or negative for New Zealand, 56 per cent of respondents in the Herald DigiPoll survey said it would be negative and 36 per cent said positive.
About 8 per cent did not know.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10748552
Labour Greens and Winston all over again. hahaha luv it.
Vote:Party Vote Act to Keep a National Govt.
August 31st, 2011 at 12:47 pm
@Viking2 – Mark Reason’s most recent diatribe is totally expected – he has just followed the trend from his father’s rants about the All Blacks – clearly there is a long running hostility within their family – most likely fuelled by the All Black’s record against Northern Hemisphere teams.
Mark Reason now lives in NZ – a long way away from his former home at the Telegraph in the UK. His comments have a recurring theme – All Blacks are cheats / northern teams are always robbed when they play the ABs etc – all the usual stuff.
Reason’s consistency is only matched by that other ‘know-all’ rugby writing prat from the Northern Hemisphere – Stephen Jones.
Both are legends in their own lunch box, with ‘contributions’ that deserve to be published under the headings “Humour” or “Sports Fiction” rather than any attempt at fact.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 1:00 pm
So Red Russel would have all earning over $48000 dip into their pockets for CHCH, just one off payment mind you. This fruitcake is getting rather tiresome, are the Melons capable of forming any policy that doesn’t involve taking other peoples money?Fuck the Melons. If Russel wants to reconstruct CHCH why does he not support the Nats in the exploration of minerals and the opening of new mines. We are sitting on billions but the Melons would rather have us broke and beholding to an oppressive government that knows only how to take. Norman promotes big government on the back of charity.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 1:23 pm
@sideshowbob says: “…are the Melons capable of forming any policy that doesn’t involve taking other peoples money?”
Could it be (1) – Wussell cannot understand the potential earnings from minerals because he is an economic ignoramus?
Vote:Could it be (2) – Wussell cannot differentiate between an economic opportunity and an ideological brainfart?
Could it be (3) – Gween policy is about communism and socialism rather than any creation of wealth?
Could it be (4) – The Gweens just KNOW that anyone earning over $48k are ‘rick pricks’ and can afford to pay more taxes…
Could it be (5) – All of the above?
August 31st, 2011 at 1:25 pm
woeful reading today at http://www.nzcpr.com
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Can someone explain to me the joke where you replace R with W when talking about Russell Norman or the Greens?
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Had a bit of a discussion the other day about the STOP the Deaths from Child Abuse! memorial this Saturday.
One thing I didn’t think to mention – at times on Kiwiblog there has been strong criticism of families closing ranks and not helping police when there has been a bad case of child abuse.
This is exactly what Cherie Sweeney stood up against when she was labeled a nark. And that is what she is campaigning for, with increasing support – to speak out on child abuse and to encourage others to speak out, especially if they know of abuse going on.
Problems like violence and abuse are family and community problems and need famiies and communities to deal with them properly rather than sweeping battered kids under a rug of silence.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Just joined so excuse me if I hark back to the Greens current polling. I would support JK offering them one of 2 minor cabinet positions if they top 15% at the expense of the Socilaists. Thisnk about it. the Greens have never ever had their hands on the tiller. By giving them a taste and letting them into the Cabinet room the Nats will let them see the reality of life.
Not their current Green/Red policy dreamtime stuff but what its actually like to hoave to govern.
:Lets fact none of the Greens have the governance ability to govern a booze up in a brewery. Like all who are in Opposition and never have to front up they are all piss and wind.
So let them taste some reality and hope they grow a brain.
Vote:Better have them inside the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in
August 31st, 2011 at 2:07 pm
NZCPR is a good resource and they have some very good commentators. These two especially caught my attention:
Dr Daniel Shayesteh: Islamisation of the West: http://www.nzcpr.com/guest63.htm
Brits recoil from teaching respect for authority at home or school: http://www.nzcpr.com/guest256.htm
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Pete,
A while back I was doing the weekly shopping and saw a Maori man wearing a T-shirt with a picture of barbed wire dripping in blood and the words “Narcs Get Cut”. This guy was with his wife/partner and three kids. Says it all sadly.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Ryan – from “The Life Of Bwian”:
or Elmer Fudd’s “Kill The Wabbit”:
Widiculous.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Good point lastmanstanding, Greens (and Mana) have no experience in government, and perhaps that shows in the impracticality of some of their policies.
Lee – that’s very sad, but unfortunately there’s far too much brutality and in some cases a total lack of basic empathy.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 2:15 pm
Afternoon Ladies
Hope the camera up the poop chute went well.
Lee01 (352) Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 12:12 pm
“Labour may have no choice but to amalgamate with the Greens ie Labour Greens, just to stay in touch.”
Unlikely. The problem is that normally MMP requires coalitions. If Labour merge with the Greens they will still need to find a viable coalition partner. Mana is a one man band and will die when Harawira is finally dumped. UF is also a one man band. So a Labour – Green merger would cripple the Left.
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UF isn’t a one man band. There are nine outstanding candidates in behind Peter and more to come. It could be expected that at least 5% of the centre vote will eventually rest on UF.
An overhang from FPP is the obligatory Tory vs socialist battle this far out from the election. This may not necessarily continue as people realise the benefits of having a centre party to keep both sides accountable. A centre party in government keeps the pace of policy up as the issues are debated rather ideological positions. In the latter situation all the horsetrading between parties with fixed ideological agendas slows down the passage of legislation. A vote for UnitedFuture is a vote for a moderate center right progressive government. In my opinion.
Odds on Labour/Green/Mana to cross cannibalize at this stage. One of them will emerge as the champion of the far left. Labour would do better to move away and not highlight the fact that the greens are on their territory. If the leftie intellectual vote swings green they are in serious schtook.
Hows the weather in Dunedin?
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 2:20 pm
The problem with the Greens is not the Green side of things, though they need to be less statist and more realistic, but that said as an agrarian/distributist there is much about green philosophy I agree with. No, the problem is the Red side, in particular their insane foriegn and defense policies and their ultra-liberal social policy. There are some small signs that they might be finally growing up a little, and hopefully the departure of Communist and terrorist supporter Keith Locke will hasten this.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Does Russell Norman have a speech impediment? I haven’t heard him speak all that much.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Monique,
I meant that on current polling it seems unlikely that UF will bring in anyone other than Dunne. That may change of course, but we will see.
“A vote for UnitedFuture is a vote for a moderate center right progressive government.”
Ick. “Modern” and “Progressive” in the same sentence. No thanks. Edit: Oops, sorry, you said “moderate” not modern. My bad.
That said I wish them well. I do agree with Dunne’s support for income spliiting for married couples. Hope he can push that through after the election.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 2:26 pm
By “growing up” you mean “agreeing with me a bit more than before”?
Anyway, I agree on the statist count.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 2:30 pm
“By “growing up” you mean “agreeing with me a bit more than before”?
Of course! You do realise that I am the only real adult posting here right?
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 2:33 pm
Lee – Income Sharing legislation has already been tabled in Parliament (as a result of a Confidence and Supply Agreement with the National), so it’s a good bet.
http://www.unitedfuture.org.nz/dunne-income-sharing-could-benefit-up-to/
Busy in Dunedin today, spring is already here with the odd hiccup.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Oops, my bad again. I meant ‘Income Sharing’. Thats very good news Pete. Credit to Dunne.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 2:56 pm
What a great story of a grand life:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/5541480/KFC-loving-107-year-old-man-dies
Hope it shuts Sue and the food police up for five seconds!
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Pete George and Monique Watson, your beloved leaders chances took a massive hit when he abandoned his “middle ground, common sense reasonable” position, that propelled him to upper atmosphere on the back of a worm. While most of us realised a worm cant fly no matter how high you throw it, he made his separation with first wife Labour a final divorce, big mistake.
His political personna is now defacto National so his point of difference is gone burger, forget policy claims, look where cgt got labour to, in spite of polls indicating some acceptance.
The Greens have fallen into the same hole with their trumpeting Left policy at the expense of any chance of Blue green potential votes.
It has been a clear tactical blunder by the many center and center-right supporters of the environmental lobby that they allowed the communists and far left socialists to usurp their moderate green environmental based position in the political landscape as a means of getting to the trough.
Vote:Hopefully the Mana party LWNJs will permit an opportunity to redress that.
Best wishes.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:03 pm
laycee (1,078) Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 1:23 pm
@sideshowbob says: “…are the Melons capable of forming any policy that doesn’t involve taking other peoples money?”
Could it be (1) – Wussell cannot understand the potential earnings from minerals because he is an economic ignoramus?
Could it be (2) – Wussell cannot differentiate between an economic opportunity and an ideological brainfart?
Could it be (3) – Gween policy is about communism and socialism rather than any creation of wealth?
Could it be (4) – The Gweens just KNOW that anyone earning over $48k are ‘rick pricks’ and can afford to pay more taxes…
Could it be (5) – All of the above?
all of the above and I should point out that the value at which you now become a rich prick has dropped.
Vote:Cullen called it at $66k. Won’t be long and we will all be rich pricks including those on the dole.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:05 pm
Monique .. yes it did thanks .. had 4 “things” snipped out and there is a condition I need to monitor.
Vote:I would suggest everyone over 50 have one. My sister, 59, was found to have bowel cancer 6 or so weeks ago. The operation went well it seems. The Dr suggested all her family had a check .. I’m glad I did even though I still need to keep close to the loo.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Gravedodger – there are clear policy differences between National and UnitedFuture. Take for example 1080, UF are pushing strongly for a total ban of 1080, interim measures will be to push to ramp up replacement pest control options.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 3:20 pm
Viking2 – says: “all of the above and I should point out that the value at which you now become a rich prick has dropped.
Cullen called it at $66k. Won’t be long and we will all be rich pricks including those on the dole.”
Of course – silly me. The principle of dragging everyone down to the lowest common denominator…. something that only a moron could think is a good idea.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 3:30 pm
“Won’t be long and we will all be rich pricks including those on the dole.”
Must be working even the “strugglers” have abandoned voting Labour as they morph into rich pricks.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Pete George – “UF are pushing strongly for a total ban of 1080″
Why?
http://www.doc.govt.nz/about-doc/news/media-releases/government-welcomes-report-on-1080/
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Not that I indulge in the practice Ryan, but let me have a crack at explaining.
I think it’s a dig at the constant self-portrayal by left-wingers (and especially the Greens) of being really, really, really caring people – certainly far more caring than we stone hearted conservatives.
In that respect people who substitute the W for the R are mocking this image by matching it to things like doe-eyed cartoon characters and pull-string dolls that emit noises such as I WUV YOU, parents doing the whole Goo goo gaa gaa routine with defenceless babies, and of course little kids showing their love of Mother Nature by scragging helpless kittens and puppies while making statements of degraded pronunciation such as they’re thoooooo cute.
Does that explain it?
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 3:41 pm
@Tom 8:16 – Chart #3 … the correlation is outstanding, and not a little scary for longs. Short the S&P500? Looks like it.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Scott
Vote:UF still contain a remnant faction from the former Outdoor Recreation Party that prefer exotic pests (deer, possum, etc) to indigenous wildlife.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Sitting at worlds slowest WiFi cafe in Bali. But it’s cheap. Well anything is when compared to the $NZ1000/GB charged for using 3G roaming..!
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 3:50 pm
Short the S&P500?
While it’s tempting to join the world of calls and puts I decided back in 2010 to keep things simple by just dumping everything I still had on the S&P500 (e.g. kids college finds – ha, ha, ha) once the index had coasted back to its pre-crash levels on the great tides of QE I – QE II.
Thanks Mr Bernanke!
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 3:52 pm
I think so, yes, cheers.
Still strikes me as immensely childish, but at least it’s not mocking some speech impediment.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Because it’s a poison. It kills native birds, stock and pets. It causes extreme suffering. Not enough is known about it’s residual effect – “in the natural New Zealand environment its decomposition rates and persistence are unknown.”
Officially it’s benefits are said to outweigh it’s dangers but finding an alternative for the benefits without the same dangers – and unknowns – is surely a good aim.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 3:57 pm
mikenmild, UF still have strong representation from hunting and fishing interests, who sort of like to think we could do more to live up to our supposed clean green image.
Continuing 1080 at current rates without developing alternatives is very risky. What if overseas meat markets decided it wasn’t acceptable?
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 4:00 pm
Pete George
Do you not think you should find this “alternative for the benefits without the same dangers” before you ban it
“in the natural New Zealand environment its decomposition rates and persistence are unknown.”
It is well study and well known that 1080 does not persist in the environment or the waterways.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 4:01 pm
Mike – so what you’re suggesting that UF”S political policy is formulated to appease special interest lobby groups as opposed to being a reflection of their constitutional philosophy of responsible governance.
Say it aint so Joe, say it aint so!
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 4:06 pm
Jaba. Good to hear it went well, and you know where you are with conditions you have to monitor. Best wishes for your sister. I believe we should have effective bowel and prostate cancer screening programmes. I got the Noro virus the same day as a colonoscopy. I slept in the bathroom for two days. :0
Pete George. I remember the daffodils outside the Wilson’s distillery this time of the year.
Vote:UF have the end goal of phasing out 1080 while ramping up other proven measures of pest control in a controlled switchover. In my opinion it could be that an interim measure could be to allow individual communities to manage their optimum approach to pest control. 1080 is anathema to some regions. Others aren’t so phased. If 1080 was so great we wouldn’t need to be using it so prolifically after 30 years of use.
August 31st, 2011 at 4:07 pm
Pete – read the DOC report. The greeny beardos managing our environment are the ones in favour of 1080:
http://www.doc.govt.nz/about-doc/news/media-releases/government-welcomes-report-on-1080/
1080 or sodium fluoroacetate is a salt that occurs naturally as an anti-herbivore metabolite in various plants but can also be produced synthetically.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 4:10 pm
Griff – that’s what I said. It’s acknowledged by most people that viable alternatives have to be found before it can be totally banned.
“in the natural New Zealand environment its decomposition rates and persistence are unknown.”
Shouldn’t we at least know?
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 4:13 pm
Is it April the 1st? You might be tempted to think so
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 4:18 pm
Pete – what is Dunne’s attitude towards following the recommendations of a parliamentary commissioner?
http://www.pce.parliament.nz/publications/all-publications/evaluating-the-use-of-1080-predators-poisons-and-silent-forests
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Monique Watson – “If 1080 was so great we wouldn’t need to be using it so prolifically after 30 years of use.”
Reading the following report will enable you to opine from a more informed basis:
http://www.pce.parliament.nz/publications/all-publications/evaluating-the-use-of-1080-predators-poisons-and-silent-forests
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 4:24 pm
Scott Chris – what significance does “occurring naturally” have?
Yes, it is ironic that DOC is so much in favour of 1080. It does help manage predators that can otherwise be devastating, but it has it’s collateral damage as well. In some conditions it can remain in the environment for months.
I wonder what would happen if a private company, say a mining company, wanted to do some development that would only kill, say, a quarter of the population of a protected species in the area.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 4:27 pm
Stuff has reported that another man has been charged over the Waiouru medals theft:
Vote:http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/5542200/Man-arrested-for-stealing-800-military-medals
This man has voluntarily returned from Australia to face the charges. In an earlier story, Stuff reported that the other man convicted for the theft was making accusations about his lawyer, Greg Comeskey, trying to keep the reward money. Comeskey was reported in that story as being in Australia. Coincidence?
August 31st, 2011 at 4:40 pm
From Andrei’s link – “Our much traveled ex-Minister of Education, more latterly opposition spokesit for Education and even more latterly an independent MP is off to greener pastures. He is off to Kabul apparently at the behest of the United Nations to tackle corruption there.”
Thing is, New Zealand’s level of corruption is negligible relative to the rest of the world, so I suspect Chris Carter may have something to contribute. That said, I see your point if you are linking his association with Helen Clarke and the seemingly corrupt practice of securing jobs for your old mates. Ironic if it’s true.
Perhaps his advice to the Afghans will be that New Zealand’s practice of corruption is subtle.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Forecast by Ken RING on 26th August……..Upcoming dates for possible increases in seismic action are
28th Aug – 2nd Sept,
14th-17th and (particularly) 23rd-28th Sept.
Oct 12th-13th and 26th-27th.
If anyone needs more detail,
On 28th Aug, there is a Neptune-Earth-Sun alignment, on 29th Aug, the new moon crosses the equator, and 3 days later it is the seventh closest moon for the year. ………………..Couple of decent jolts in Earthquake city right on the mark.
Vote:http://www.predictweather.com/ArticleShow.aspx?ID=361&type=home
August 31st, 2011 at 4:50 pm
Pete – 1080 is a blunt instrument. So is nitrogen fertilizer. The reason Dunne should pay heed to the Parliamentary Commissioner is that she has weighed up the benefits and drawbacks of using 1080 and recommended *increasing* its use.
I suspect you know this anyway, but you have to tow the line. Good luck.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 4:53 pm
Ken Ring is a fraud. There is no correlation between his predictions and actual recorded observations better than random chance. You may as well consult an astrologer.
Furthermore, there is no scientific basis to his method.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 4:53 pm
Toe the line.
Sorry, pet peeve.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 4:55 pm
There are so many elements to the story Scott Chris – his own history of well, shall we say, looesness with his work credit card and his predilection for finding important conferences and so forth in exotic climes which he simply has to attend, with his um er on the taxpayers dime.
Then of course there is the element of him not having yet resigned from Parliament – which is a detail which should have been taken care of before the story broke to avoid the appearance that it could get overlooked somehow and well …. Even more unfortunate appearance wise might be the leave application he has submitted according to the story.
And then of course there is the destination itself and his lifestyle which might seem, on the face of it incompatible.
And in the background somewhere looming large – HELEN
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Thanks Ryan, didn’t know that. Always had a mental image of pulling in an anchor in a team-spirited way.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 5:01 pm
@backster – Ring is a charlatan who is trying to prey on the jittery nature of Cantabs to sell his crock ‘predictions’. Indeed, making a prediction of aftershocks in a City where there have been many, many aftershocks since the big events (and then claiming that he has knowledge based on phases of the moon), can hardly be described as a revelation but simply a statement of the obvious. Of course CHC will experience aftershocks for some time to come – its all about the plates settling after such an upheaval.
I’ll predict now that both Wellington and the Manawatu will experience gale force winds and that Auckland will experience bucket loads of rain in the next month. My prediction will have the same chances of being on the money as Ring’s – but at least mine won’t generate fear amongst the ill informed and the vulnerable in Christchurch and beyond.
In fact, I heard NewstalkZB host Mike Yardley say that, as soon as this crap hit the airwaves in Christchurch this week, the lines were hot with callers wanting Ring to just STFU.
Amen to that.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 5:02 pm
Scott
I think it came from bare-knuckled boxing – a line was drawn between the pugilists, who were called to ‘toe the line’
Edit: I seenow fromthe ever-reliable Wikipedia that the etymology is uncertain:
Vote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toe_the_line
August 31st, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Mike – Wiki – It is commonly thought that its origins lie in the British House of Commons where sword-strapped members were instructed to stand behind lines that were two sword-lengths apart from their political rivals in order to restore decorum. However, there is no record of a time when Members of Parliament were allowed to bring swords into the Chamber.
I reckon they nicked it off the sailors and misspelled tow, toe.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 5:11 pm
@Scott Chris – you are right.
It’s often said, among other stories, that it comes from ancient practice in the House of Commons, the lower house of the British parliament. A pair of lines is painted on the floor that separates the two front benches, replicating ones in earlier chambers (the Commons is strong on tradition). The rule used to be that during debates members could step no nearer the opposing benches than the line on their side of the floor. This dates from a period when members habitually wore swords and the rule was designed to deter them from getting into potentially fatal confrontations (the lines are traditionally two sword lengths apart).
So much is historical fact.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Scott Chris (647) Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Monique Watson – “If 1080 was so great we wouldn’t need to be using it so prolifically after 30 years of use.”
Reading the following report will enable you to opine from a more informed basis:
http://www.pce.parliament.nz/publications/all-publications/evaluating-the-use-of-1080-predators-poisons-and-silent-forests
Pete – what is Dunne’s attitude towards following the recommendations of a parliamentary commissioner?
—-
Peter Dunne said Jan Wright was stepping outside her role in providing this opinion piece. I believe Peter said it was time she hopped back into line and provided unbiased research.
A couple of points to note:
A report isn’t unbiased if it begins “I was surprised to find out how good 1080 was”. – opinion
The report finishes
“We cannot allow our forests to die”. opinion boo hoo
Re Jan Wright: Its a case of: “if she’s got a fancy title it must be the truth”.
To me – you can paint a turd pink but it’s still gonna end up in the sewer. And that’s my opinion
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 5:36 pm
@milkenmild as I read the story, the man who has returned to face charges is accused of a totally different set of thefts in a totally different time frame to the ones that were perpetrated by the people represented by Comesky.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 5:43 pm
Pete George – I believe the expression is bombing the village to save the village. Good point about the likely outcry if a private company wanted to dose our forests.
As for 1080 being a naturally occurring substance – Everything occurs naturally (it occurs in a closed system called the universe.)
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 5:49 pm
Ryan’s comments at 1.34 and 2.25 and 3.52.
Wussell talks wubbish. And if he did not talk so much wubbish, he would not get the piss take. The man is psyco. The Earthquake will be paid for by the Taxpayer anyway, Wussel is just pissing off the rich pricks.
Vote:Oh yeah, a Wok is what you use to kill a Wabbit when you have’nt got a Wifle
August 31st, 2011 at 5:56 pm
Monique Watson
So does Peter Dunne have anything other than opinion upon which to base his judgement that 1080 is a pernicious poison worthy of banning?
The substance of the report was scientific even if the commissioner’s summary was opinionated. However, I understand that MPs are often too busy to read the detail, so I suggest Mr Dunne keep an open mind until he has read the report an is thus, fully informed.
“To me – you can paint a turd pink but it’s still gonna end up in the sewer. And that’s my opinion”
Yours? Has political glibness written all over it.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 6:04 pm
FANTASTIC!
The Crown has been given the green light to seek recovery of the $1.2 Million from the morons who damaged the Waihopai base.
Excellent news.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/5542919/Crown-allowed-to-pursue-Waihopai-trio-for-1-2m
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 6:06 pm
@ Scott Chris. I’ll see if I can track down the studies which our policy is based on.
For me – I believe that if communities are that agin 1080 then we need to devolve pest control back to the community. They could meet certain targets.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 6:10 pm
!080 is fine for knocking over possums until we can find a better, safer way Scott. It’s the fucking duplicity of the wankers at DOC who refuse to put deer repellant (at a very small extra cost) in it yet pretend they are not targeting deer.
That has pissed off a lot of hunters who see deer as a resource that can bring in serious dollars to our benighted little land.
It’s not the 1080 so much but the bloody hypocrisy of DOC that has caused the 1080 uproar. The silly little commissioner person is just following the party line.
I forgot your new lot were agin 1080 Pete! Whose your Hutt South candidate?
I will vote for him/her/ (not it)…… I know UF would never put an IT up as a candidate!!
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 6:11 pm
Lol
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 6:12 pm
“The Crown has been given the green light to seek recovery of the $1.2 Million from the morons who damaged the Waihopai base.”
When they are found guilty the punishment should be sending them to Iraq to save lives, their own
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 6:19 pm
Monique – look forward to seeing them. I do hope they are not opinion based and provide irrefutable scientific evidence that 1080 lingers undegraded in the environment and that a causal link has been identified between the use of 1080 and illness in humans.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 6:24 pm
Johnboy – Yes deer repellent does cost 25% more, but if hunters manage deer numbers, then DOC should use repellent in designated hunting areas.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 6:26 pm
I don’t mean to rain on your parade but looking at the background of the protestors they’re as poor as church mice, which in at least one case is pretty much what he is.
As an example, here’s their valiant Australian spokesman – Deep Green Catholic Bryan Law (who has posted here as “Bryla” – doing some damage to a Tiger attack helicopter in Australia recently, having ridden up to it on large tricycle.
Does he look like someone who’ll be able to pony up the $200,000 of damage to the $36 million chopper?
I’ll make a wild guess here – No!
Likewise for his mates in NZ, although a lifetime deduction of any benefits they get would be of interest. In Law’s case something that cuts his diet would be best, as he looks like he will soon also be costing the Australian Health system a fair chunk of cash.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 6:30 pm
25% more my arse Scott. That’s DOC liarspeak for you.
80% of the cost of 1080 is in aircraft time the poison cost fuck all.
Don’t believe DOC bullshit. That’s why they have no credibility on this issue.
They have their official line and they will stick to it come hell or high water otherwise they would have to try and justify the crap they have fed us on this subject for the last forty years.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 6:32 pm
Sale of body parts is always an option for all four of them Tom!
Should be real healthy being Greenies and all!
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 6:38 pm
Johnboy
Vote:As a Hutt South man, surely you’ll be voting for Trevor Mallard.
August 31st, 2011 at 6:41 pm
“Climate change deniers will be despised just like racists one day, says Al Gore”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2031278/Climate-change-deniers-seen-racists-day-says-Al-Gore.html#ixzz1WaP5eTR4
Tell me this isn’t exactly what they would say and do if it were really truly and actually simply a mere propaganda campaign.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 6:43 pm
Sale of body parts is always an option for all four of them
Possibly, though if it were legs the government would likely have to provide mobility services.
Can you imagine the video of four guys mounting a coordinated electric wheelchair attack on a military chopper? Way cooler than the giant tricycle – it might even gain them supporters, perish the thought!
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 6:44 pm
Arsewipe wasting Taxpayer money.
Vote:http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10748606&ref=rss
So many arseholes, too few bullets
August 31st, 2011 at 6:50 pm
Body parts Steve, body parts.
Make the pieces of shit pay for their crimes, if they have no cash well they can have the option of choosing what bits they want to sell to pay the costs.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 6:51 pm
Steve
Vote:Are you referring to the defendant or his learned counsel?
August 31st, 2011 at 6:55 pm
All of the above Mike
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Body parts like in ‘Max Headroom’ ??? yeah!!!
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 6:57 pm
I liked the bit where his lawyer said he had not yet been assigned to the case by legal aid and was not able to receive disclosure on behalf of Masters: “This is no minor matter and I could not undertake it unless there is some compensation, all be it at the marginal rate provided by the ministry.”
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 6:59 pm Vote:
August 31st, 2011 at 7:00 pm
The birth order of children….
1st baby: *You begin wearing maternity clothes as soon as your doctor confirms your pregnancy.*
2nd baby: *You wear your regular clothes for as long as possible.
* 3rd baby: *Your maternity clothes ARE your
regular clothes.
Preparing for the Birth:
1st baby: *You practice your breathing religiously.*
2nd baby: *You don’t bother because you remember that last time breathing didn’t do a thing.*
3rd baby*: You ask for an epidural in your eighth month.
The Layette*:*
1st baby: *You pre-wash newborn’s clothes, color coordinate them, and fold them neatly in the baby’s little bureau.*
2nd baby: *You check to make sure that the clothes are clean and discard only the ones with the darkest stains.*
3rd baby: *Boys can wear pink, can’t they?
Worries:
1st baby: *At the first sign of distress–a whimper, a frown–you pick up the baby.*
2nd baby: *You pick the baby up when her wails threaten to wake your firstborn.*
3rd baby: *You teach your three-year-old how to rewind the mechanical swing.
Dummy:
1st baby: *If the dummy falls on the floor, you put it away until you can go home and wash and boil it.*
2nd baby: *When the dummy falls on the floor, you squirt it off with some juice from the baby’s bottle.*
3rd baby: *You wipe it off on your shirt and pop it back in.
Nappies:
1st baby: *You change your baby’s nappy every hour, whether they need it or not.*
2nd baby: *You change their nappy every two to three hours, if needed.*
3rd baby: *You try to change their nappy before others start to complain about the smell or you see it sagging to their knees.
Activities:
1st baby: *You take your infant to Baby Gymnastics, Baby Swing, and Baby Story Hour.*
2nd baby: *You take your infant to Baby Gymnastics.*
3rd baby: *You take your infant to the supermarket and the dry cleaner.
Going Out:
1st baby: *The first time you leave your baby with a sitter, you call home five times.*
2nd baby: *Just before you walk out the door, you remember to leave a number where you can be reached.*
3rd baby: *You leave instructions for the sitter to call only if she sees blood.
At Home:
1st baby*: You spend a good bit of every day just gazing at the baby.*
2nd baby: *You spend a bit of everyday watching to be sure your older child isn’t squeezing, poking, or hitting the baby.
3rd baby: *You spend a little bit of every day hiding from the children.
Swallowing Coins:
1st child: *When first child swallows a coin, you rush the child to the hospital and demand x-rays.*
Vote:2nd child: *When second child swallows a coin, you carefully watch for the coin to pass.*
3rd child: *When third child swallows a coin, you deduct it from his pocket money.
August 31st, 2011 at 7:01 pm
“Make the pieces of shit pay for their crimes…”
Exactly. Couldn’t have said it better.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 7:01 pm
Masters would not have a job if it wasn’t for the arseholes he supports. Therefore he has a life carreer as long as the arsewipes are allowed to continue on their path
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 7:02 pm
“This is no minor matter and I could not undertake it unless there is some compensation, all be it at the marginal rate provided by the ministry.”
FEStering Smith should probably pop in at this juncture to explain the detail of how jolly honest lawyers rip off the legal aid system!
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 7:02 pm
Now bugger off, it is joke time ok
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 7:04 pm
“Masters would not have a job if it wasn’t for the arseholes he supports. Therefore he has a life carreer as long as the arsewipes are allowed to continue on their path”
Ditto for Mansfield Steve!
Shit feeding off shit.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 7:06 pm
“Now bugger off, it is joke time ok..”
Chris Carter.
Winston Peters.
Phil Goff.
Trevor Mallard.
Wed Wussell
The Gween caucus
6 jokes – your turn now, steve.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 7:08 pm
Fill Goof.
The neverending joke!
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 7:12 pm
Steve – “Arsewipe wasting Taxpayer money.”
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10748606&ref=rss
If we were to dispense with the adversarial system of juries and lawyers and adopted a judge based inquisitorial system, this kind of thing would not happen. The whole process would be much more efficient, and the truth of the matter more likely to be established.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 7:12 pm
Trip to the Farm.
Vote:“Ok children, what sounds did we hear at the farm yesterday”?
“Baaa”
“Mooo”
‘Quack quack”
“Woof woof”
“Get off that fucking tractor”
August 31st, 2011 at 7:15 pm
Chad and Mike were a pair of winos. They woke up with the shakes one afternoon to find that they only had forty cents between them. Chad began to climb the walls, but Mike said calmly,” Look old man, give me the forty cents and I’ll show you how we can drink free all day.”
So they went into a delicatessen, Chad bought a frankfurter and placed it in Mike’s fly. Next, they went into a near by bar and ordered drinks. When the bartender asked for his money Chad dropped to his knees and started sucking on the frankfurter. The bartender screamed,” You damn queers get out of here.”
They repeated this scene in bar after bar, until they had visited a dozen of them. Finally Chad complained, “Listen Mike, it is a great scheme but my knees are getting sore from hitting the floor so much!”
Mike shook his head. “You should complain,” said Mike, “We lost the hotdog after the second bar!!”
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 7:20 pm
“Oh, No!” he gasped as he surveyed the disaster before him. Never in his
40 years of life had he seen anything like it. How anyone could have
survived he did not know.
He could only hope that somewhere amid the overwhelming destruction he
would find his 16-year-old son. Only the slim hope of finding Danny kept
him from turning and fleeing the scene. He took a deep breath and
proceeded.
Walking was virtually impossible with so many things strewn across his
path. He moved ahead slowly.
“Danny! Danny!” he whispered to himself. He tripped and
almost fell several times. He heard someone, or something, move. At
least he thought he did. Perhaps, he was just hoping he did. He shook
his head and felt his gut tighten. He couldn’t understand how this could
have happened.
There was some light but not enough to see very much.
Something cold and wet brushed against his hand.
He jerked it away.
In desperation, he took another step then cried out, “Danny!”
From a nearby pile of unidentified material, he heard his son. “Yes,
Dad,” he said, in a voice so weak it could hardly be heard.
“It’s time to get up and get ready for school,” the man sighed, “and,
Vote:for heaven’s sake, clean up your room!”
August 31st, 2011 at 7:22 pm
Man said to wife “Right you sexy thing, to the bedroom, Now!”
She looked at him and said “Ooh, you kinky bastard”
He said “No, seriously, the rugby’s starting, now fuck off’
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 7:25 pm
I bought some tuna at the market today. The label read “Albacore Tuna packed in oil, compliments of BP.”
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 7:25 pm
This might wipe the grin of the $55000000 dollar grinning pm, good or bad shit it was a USA spy center and kiwis hate govt shit and smarly key is the face of smiling crap butt licking USA adulation
Crown will pursue trio for over $1m of damageYahoo! New Zealand
August 31, 2011, 6:37 pm tweet0EmailPrint
The Crown has been awarded the right to pursue three men who broke into the Waihopai Spy Base for over $1 million in damages.
Teacher Adrian Leason, friar Peter Murnane and farmer Sam Land are being chased for $1,229,289.
The trio were found not guilty in April 2010 by a jury of burglary and wilful damage of the base near Blenheim in 2008.
They cut through electric fences and slashed through an inflatable dome covering a satellite dish.
They used a “claim of right” defence and said they were saving Iraqi lives by disrupting satellite transmissions.
The Crown lodged an application at the High Court in Wellington earlier this month.
The trio will now be held liable for the damage they caused.
Associate Judge David Gendall said the trios arguments faced an “insurmountable hurdle” as they were effectively inviting the Court to authorise their general right of self-help, Stuff has reported.
“At one level this might be seen simply as a mask for anarchy. The notion that the Court might exonerate vigilante action is highly problematic.
“To take this approach as I see it would inevitably lead to unacceptable precedents being set in a range of areas.”
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 7:27 pm
How much coke does Charlie Sheen snort? Enough to kill 2 and a half men
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 7:30 pm
One day, during a lesson on proper grammar, the teacher asked for a show of hands from those who could use the word “beautiful” in the same sentence twice. First, she called on little Suzie, who responded with,
“My father bought my mother a beautiful dress and she looked beautiful in it.”
“Very good, Suzie,” replied the teacher.
She then called on little Michael. “My mommy planned a beautiful banquet and it turned out beautifully,” he said.
“Excellent, Michael!”
Then, the teacher called on little Johnny. “Last night, at the dinner table, my sister told my father that she was pregnant, and he said, ‘Beautiful, ……just fucking beautiful!’”
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 7:38 pm
jaba
I’ve been following your trials of the past few day….it brought back some memories I have of the same experience. To me the worst was the litres of prep you have to drink & its effects. Dave Berry, who I’ve quoted below, wrote an article on it for the Miami Herald:
“In accordance with my instructions, I didn’t eat any solid food that day; all I had was chicken broth, which is basically water, only with less flavor.
Then, in the evening, I took the MoviPrep. You mix two packets of powder together in a one-liter plastic jug, then, you fill it with lukewarm water… (For those unfamiliar with the metric system, a liter is about 32 gallons). Then you have to drink the whole jug. This takes about an hour, because MoviPrep tastes – and here I am being kind – like a mixture of goat spit and urinal cleanser, with just a hint of lemon.
The instructions for MoviPrep, clearly written by somebody with a great sense of humor, state that after you drink it, ‘a loose, watery bowel movement may result.’ This is kind of like saying that after you jump off your roof, you may experience contact with the ground.
MoviPrep is a nuclear laxative. I don’t want to be too graphic, here, but: have you ever seen a space-shuttle launch? This is pretty much the MoviPrep experience, with you as the shuttle. There are times when you wish the commode had a seat belt. You spend several hours pretty much confined to the bathroom, spurting violently. You eliminate everything. And then, when you figure you must be totally empty, you have to drink another liter of MoviPrep, at which point, as far as I can tell, your bowels travel into the future and start eliminating food that you have not even eaten yet.
After an action-packed evening, I finally got to sleep. “
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 7:43 pm
You think seven years is bad for breaking a mirror? Try breaking a condom
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 7:51 pm
Mary had a little lamb
Her father shot it dead.
Now it goes to school with her,
between two chunks of bread.
Trevor had a little lamb
His father had it too
If you’re in to bestiality
Oz is the place for you.
Georgie Porgy pudding and pie.
Vote:kissed the girls and made them cry.
When the boys came out to play,
He kissed them too, cause he was gay.
August 31st, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Billy Connolly on his colonoscopy:
http://jokes.myjokesite.info/2009/04/billy-connolly-colonoscopy.html
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 8:01 pm
Mary had a little skirt
with splits right up the sides
and everywhere that Mary went
the boys could see her thighs.
Mary had another skirt
’twas split right up the front
…But she didn’t wear that one often
Little Miss Muffet sat on a tuffet,
her clothes all tattered and torn.
It wasn’t the spider that crept up beside her
’twas Little Boy Blue with a horn.
Simple Simon met a pieman going to the fair.
Said Simple Simon to the pieman
“What have u got there?”
Said the pieman unto Simon
Pies you dickhead.
Mary had a little lamb
it ran into a pylon.
10,000 volts went up its arse
and turned its wool to nylon
Jack and Jill
Vote:went up the hill
to have a little fun.
Jill, the dill,
forgot her pill,
and now they have a son.
August 31st, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Jack and Jill went up the hill
Vote:The each had a dollar and a quarter
Jack came down with half a crown
They didn’t go up for water
August 31st, 2011 at 8:09 pm
Hickory dickory dock,
Three mice ran up the clock,
The clock struck one,
The other two got away with minor injuries.
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
Vote:Humpty Dumpty had a great fall,
And said, “shit that hurt!”
August 31st, 2011 at 8:14 pm
Little Johnny’s next door neighbor went to see a psychiatrist. “The other day,” the woman said, “I happened to see my daughter and the little boy next door both naked, examining each other’s bodies.”
Vote:“Well, that’s not unusual,” smiled the psychiatrist, “I wouldn’t worry about something as normal as that.”
“But I AM worried doctor.” insisted the woman. “I don’t think it’s normal at all, and neither does my daughter’s husband.”
August 31st, 2011 at 8:15 pm
Three old men were sitting around at the nursing home, discussing ageing.
The 80 year-old said, “The best thing that could happen to me would just to be able to have a good pee. I stand there for twenty minutes, and it dribbles and hurts. I have to go over and over again.”
The 85 year-old said, “The best thing that could happen to me is if I could have one good bowel movement. I take every kind of laxative I can get my hands on and it’s still a problem.”
Then the 90 year-old said, “That’s not my problem. Every morning at 6:00 am sharp, I have a good long pee. At 6:30 am sharp I have a great bowel movement.
The best thing that could happen to me would be if I could wake up before 7:00 am.”
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 8:24 pm
Written On A Toilet Wall:
Here I sit
Broken-hearted
Came to shit
But only farted
Some come here to sit and think,
some come here to shit and stink,
but I come here to itch my balls,
and read the writing on the walls.
Sticks and stones may break my bones,
but whips and chains excite me,
So… throw me down,
and tie me up and show me that you like me.
Here I sit I’m at a loss
Trying to shit out taco sauce
I know I’m gonna drop a load
I only hope I don’t explode
Written on the left wall:
*TOILET TENNIS*
look right
Written on the right wall:
look left
here I sit all broken hearted
Vote:tried to shit but only farted
then one day I took a chance
tried to fart and shit my pants
August 31st, 2011 at 8:26 pm
On hearing that her elderly grandfather had died, Jenny went straight to visit her grandmother. When she asked how her grandpa had died, her grandma explained, not holding back anything of course, “He had a heart attack during sex, Sunday morning!” Horrified, Jenny suggested that screwing at the age of 94 was surely asking for trouble! “Oh no,” her grandma replied. “We had sex every Sunday morning in time with the church bells!” “In with the dings, out with the dongs!” She paused to wipe away a tear, “If it wasn’t for that damn Ice Cream Truck, he’d still be alive!!!”
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 8:30 pm
I do begrudge the fact that when our entire household comes down with the lurgy I can no longer just go to the chemist and buy drugs that will enable us to function.
Fuck off interfering government, there’s more ephedrine coming in via the Triads through our ports than all the pills in all the pharmacies in New Zealand, more knee jerk wanking legislation
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 9:03 pm
WHEN IS IT CLIMATE, AND WHEN IS IT WEATHER?
Simple. Irene was Climate, a monster storm clearly brought about by human changes in the planet.
Stories like below, on the other hand, are mere randomly-varying Weather..
Parts of Britain suffer coldest summer for nearly two decades.
Vote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/weather/8730125/Parts-of-Britain-suffer-coldest-summer-for-nearly-two-decades.html
August 31st, 2011 at 9:14 pm
Looks like I poppped in just on time!
Good news and bad news in this poll of 51 countries:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/damian-carrington-blog/2011/aug/30/climate-change-opinion-skeptic#
Andy, hurricanes and storms have always exsisted. Your claim that Irene was caused by AGW is just a lie – I was going to use a less pointed term but, if the cap fits, Andy…
The good news is that even with the USA included, less than 10% describe themselves as skeptics.
(Cue hillbillies to come out of their caves!)
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 9:27 pm
Evening Luc. Is “she who must be obeyed” asleep already?
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 9:29 pm
“Andy, hurricanes and storms have always exsisted. Your claim that Irene was caused by AGW is just a lie – I was going to use a less pointed term but, if the cap fits, Andy…”
My claim?
Now that’s funny.
AGW is a myth, a scam, a money making sheme….
The AGW prophets (“Repend, the end is nigh!”) are proclaiming this to be the punishment for the non-believers….
Global Warming’s Heavy Cost
Aug 25, 2011 9:29 PM EDT
Hurricane Irene’s dangerous power can be traced to global warming says Bill McKibben—and Obama is at fault for his failed leadership on the environment.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/08/25/hurricane-irene-can-be-tied-to-global-warming-says-bill-mckibben.html
“The good news is that even with the USA included, less than 10% describe themselves as skeptics.”
Vote:Well Whoopty Doo
The “argumentum ad populum” is alive and well.
August 31st, 2011 at 9:32 pm
Cue Luc to tell us there are alot more thickos like himself around.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 9:34 pm
jaba:
“How much coke does Charlie Sheen snort? Enough to kill 2 and a half men”
http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/9452164817/1/tumblr_lqb3bpgKMr1qb5gkj
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 9:39 pm
Meanwhile, over in the USA, a cool British summer is a mere fantasy
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/weatherhistorian/article.html?entrynum=31
Andy, read carefully:
McKibbens’ statement is factually accurate and does not say that Irene was caused by AGW.
Do not dissemble or equivocate, please.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 10:10 pm
Meanwhile, over in the USA, a cool British summer is a mere fantasy
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/weather/8730125/Parts-of-Britain-suffer-coldest-summer-for-nearly-two-decades.html
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 10:24 pm
Poor old Luc – he’s an even worse salesman than this shopkeeper
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 10:52 pm
“Meanwhile, over in the USA, a cool British summer is a mere fantasy”
Oh oh – enter the resident alarmist with more bullshit and bluster courtesy of the usual purveyors of propaganda.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 11:02 pm
“The Crown has been given the green light to seek recovery of the $1.2 Million from the morons who damaged the Waihopai base.”
Hopefully, the Crown will chase them jointly and severally – these vandals need to pay for the consequences of their actions. If required, hit their salaries until it their debt is paid off in full. Force the sale of assets they may own (farms, homes, cars etc).
This decision is good news and a timely reminder to all placard waving dissidents that they need to be accountable for their actions and that they can no longer hide behind the skirts of others.
Vote:August 31st, 2011 at 11:20 pm
Still joke time?
LITTLE JOHNNY ON MATH:
Vote:Little Johnny returns from school and says he got an “F” in arithmetic.
“Why?” asks the father.
“The teacher asked me, ‘How much is 2×3?’” “I said, 6,” replies Johnny. “But that’s right,” said the father.
Johnny continued, “Yeah, but then she asked me, ‘How much is 3×2?’”
“What’s the ****ing difference?” asks the father.
“That’s what I said!” exclaimed Johnny.
August 31st, 2011 at 11:53 pm
Yep, Munich Re is at it again:
http://www.munichre.com/app_pages/www/@res/pdf/group/focus/climate_change/weather_catastrophes_in_china_1980%E2%80%932010_en.pdf
Extract:
“Flooding in China
Munich Re believes that weather extremes such as the massive floods experienced by China since early June are due to the advance of climate change. The trend towards increasingly higher losses from natural catastrophe losses is primarily due to socio-economic factors. The population is growing, more and more people are moving into exposed areas, and at the same time property values are also rising. Yet it would seem that the growing number of weather-related catastrophes can only be explained by climate change. The view that weather extremes are more frequent and intense due to global warming is in keeping with current scientific findings as set out in the Fourth IPCC Assessment Report.
As Prof. Peter Höppe, Head of Munich Re’s Geo Risks Research unit, emphasised: “The devastating floods in China are of a dramatic dimension – a phenomenon that has unfortunately occurred in China with increasing frequency over the last few decades. Every year, millions of Chinese are victims of weather-related natural catastrophes. And the risk is steadily growing, for climate change harbours the potential for torrential downpours while the risk of drought in certain regions is also on the rise.”"
And an interesting statistic they show is that over the period from 1980-2010 (see link provided), the number of weather catastrophes in China increased almost fivefold.
Just more alarmist propaganda!
Nitey nite.
Vote:September 1st, 2011 at 12:18 am
Munich Re stockprice
If you select the period from January 1, 2007 to today you’ll note they have declined from E138 to E88.
Apparently a company that just was not smart enough to beat the GFC.
Still, let’s hope AGW can at least allow them to easily boost their premiums. Looks like they’re off to a good start with Luc.
Vote:September 1st, 2011 at 7:19 am
The major problem facing the world today is not AGW its human over population.
The west has been responsible for exporting its modern technology to society’s that are not ready to except them.
medical treatments that prolong life and decrees mortality.
Agricultural advances that increase food production.
These technology have in the west encourage a stable population level as western civilization has evolved to compensate for the effects.
In the rest of the world this has not developed driving a massive explosion in population.
AGW has the potential to negate this distortion by regulating the population of the third world due to drought flood and other natural catastrophes
IN SHORT SAVE GAIA BURN GOAL
Vote:September 1st, 2011 at 7:39 am
The earth isn’t over populated. Most of it is empty.
I’ve noticed people who claim this don’t think THEY are the problem – it’s always someone else causing the “overpopulation” (generally a brown person of some sort).
Vote:September 1st, 2011 at 7:54 am
So the repeated calls for aid to the Sudan, Ethiopia, Africa, Korea etc etc that have been happening over the last fifty years or more are the fault of the west. That fact that civilized world limits its population growth is causing the starving millions. Thanks for your intelligent dismissal of my argument. The world will not have famine and pestilence if the west just blames its self.
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