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Biscuit

Love how the couple who allegedly perpetrated the shutdown-by-drone of Gatwick Airport are not only named in the UK press today but (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html) have their evil mugs spread across the media.

Angry Andy here will be irate at this disgraceful exhibition of ‘the public has a right to know’…
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December 23, 2018 8:01am
- DigNap15
  
  Yes and Morocco does not have name supression either.
  I wish I could find out if the USA and France have name supression.
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:20am
- srylands
  
  Not quite the kind of perpetrators I was expecting.
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:39am
  - Tall Man
    
    You don’t have to have a big tag on your forehead proclaiming yourself to be an idiot…look at ardern the liar, thick as pig shit but she looks almost normal.
    
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    December 23, 2018 9:52am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  You can’t help but wonder if there would have been so much openness and transparency about the perps if they’d been muslims?
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:51am
- Chris2
  
  I’m waiting for Ardern to announce through teary eyes that travelers passing through Gatwick Airport ought to be safe and that she is sorry they did not feel safe.
  
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  December 23, 2018 9:03am
  - burt
    
    She is more likely to ask why they didn’t all get their own individual airforce 757.
    
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    December 23, 2018 9:15am
  - igm
    
    Chris2: I am awaiting her reply to this disgusting carry-on. This is what happens when ferals are paid to breed, and she has increased the incentive because it stops poverdy . . . what a fucken disgrace she is!
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/109484033/synthetic-cannabis-smoking-mum-slammed-for-reprehensible-act-of-self-interest
    
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    December 23, 2018 12:44pm
    - GoVege
      
      Why are you blaming the PM for these disgusting slobs?
      They are a direct result of their moronic “leaders” urging their people to push out umpteen kids because “every child is a gift from God”.
      They should be given generous grocery vouchers for getting the injection.
      Unfortunately there will probably be screams of “genocide” AGAIN from the useless outfits against contraception.
      
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      December 23, 2018 1:49pm
      - igm
        
        Believe me the latest increase in breeding benefits has overloaded police everywhere on benefit day. Bottle stores are booming, drug dealers are happy, and decent people (taxpayers — very few being CoL supporters) are paying.
        
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        December 23, 2018 4:38pm
- Dave Mann
  
  I’ve been amazed at the panic caused by the arselole(s) flying these drones at Gatwick. It seems that the British have completely list their minds.
  
  Did nobody think that the obvious solution to drones is to simply shoot them down using shotguns? Obviously SAS type firearms would be out of the question on an airport runway because of the danger caused by high velocity projectiles with a long range…. but I’d say a shotgun would be perfect for the job. Exceedingly effective within a relatively short range.
  
  A drone isn’t that dissimilar to a duck, really, is it?
  
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  December 23, 2018 9:43am
  - Tall Man
    
    You must have seen some pretty weird ducks…
    
    We haven’t even had the referendum yet…. 😉
    
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    December 23, 2018 9:59am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    The important thing is to stop the person(s) flying the drones.
    
    Shooting one out of the air (or bringing it down with a comms. system) doesn’t solve the problem if more drones appear in restricted air space some time later.
    
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    December 23, 2018 10:08am
    - Wangas Feral
      
      Keep shooting.
      
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      December 23, 2018 10:23am
    - Dave Mann
      
      That’s where the SAS style military firearm comes in. To deal with the person/people flying the drones.
      
      Select the right tool for the job.
      
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      December 23, 2018 12:13pm
      - mark15
        
        SAS style military firearm…
        Hmmm
        
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        December 23, 2018 4:59pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    I know the guy at Auckland airport who has the health and safety job of killing birds and other animals who invade airport space so airports are places where shotguns are used. Can’t understand why that solution wasn’t taken at Gatwick?
    
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    December 23, 2018 10:48am
    - fluffykiwi
      
      Lots more planes in and out of Gatwick
      
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      December 23, 2018 12:22pm
      - waikatogirl
        
        Obviously! However, the drone had every plane at Gatwick stationery so the number of planes wasn’t an issue ?
        
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        December 23, 2018 12:43pm
  - Paulus
    
    Presumably a satellite could have homed and locked on the drone and therefor identifying where the drone went to refuel.
    
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    December 23, 2018 11:25am
  - srylands
    
    These drones were about 5 x the size of a duck and at 500 feet. Could you shoot it down? At night?
    
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    December 23, 2018 12:33pm
    - Dave Mann
      
      Long shot…. but yes, just about possible. And anyway, I read that these things were flying at low passes over the runway too, so I’m sure a competent pest controller could have had a good shot at them.
      
      Certainly better than closing down a major airport for days. And what the fuck were the ‘armed forces’ doing all the while??? Were they perfecting their transsexual makeup techniques and looking for the right shoes for the occasion, or something?
      
      Wet idiots.
      
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      December 23, 2018 2:30pm
- realityczech
  
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  It shows just how ineffective the military are when faced with simple problems.
  
  Those tiny drones posed no safety issue to aircraft. They can handle a strike from a bird the size of a fox terrier without issue. You could throw sack loads of those tiny drones through the engines, now worries.
  
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  December 23, 2018 9:59am
  - G152
    
    Another subject in which you’re dead shit ignorant
    
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    December 23, 2018 10:04am
    - stigie
      
      You are amazing rc !~
      
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      December 23, 2018 10:13am
    - realityczech
      
      Airports are surrounded by uncontroled birds. Geese with 2m wingspans can fly at very high altitude and are uncontroled.
      
      Now go sit in the corner with a potato peeler and self harm.
      
      Real Flight video Boeing Industries Engine Test GE
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTKfFxwpbUU
      
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      December 23, 2018 10:19am
      - septic skeptic
        
        And then KFC take what remains so there is no waste ?
        
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        December 23, 2018 10:58am
- Nickc2
  
  Agree. The UK’s Daily Mail also published the name and mug shot of the NZer who took the British Tourist’s life.
  
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  December 23, 2018 1:52pm
- Johnboy
  
  Too hell with those two pricks. That “Megan’s” PAWG arse in a thong next photo down looks like it could ground the whole of the RAF if she put her obvious talent to it! 🙂
  
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  December 23, 2018 2:53pm
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What an unholy mess we have brewing. A prime minister has appointed a chief justice who claims she is sure Mark Lundy is guilty, yet the prime minister would have lunch with Steve Braunias while the appeal is in full flight, and he wrote

“It was during those faraway, halcyon days when New Zealand was without a government, and Winston Peters amused himself with coalition talks. I hoofed across Molesworth one day to Parliament and had a cup of tea with Jacinda Ardern.”

and

“But there were times during that week in the Appeal Court when they really got stuck into Crown Prosecutor Philip Morgan, had him squirming, and raised serious questions.”

Indeed, no one who I know of who attended the proceedings believes the chief justice appointee believes for a heartbeat Lundy did the crime, the questions were scathing, the ripostes lethal.

“Philip Morgan: Amber must have eaten more food later at night (to have a full stomach at his desired 3 am time of death)

Winkelmann j: But you are arguing backwards.”

Yes indeed, all the arguments are backward and utterly false, and to be spotted by the meanest intelligence, yet these 3 judges are on 12k a week each for their brains.

A more complete transcript

“Asher: Yes this topic is one we need elucidation from you so we have the dna lifted in what has been described as quite considerable quantities . We also know the defence argument is that it is not unusual in husband wife situation. .And it seems it is not suggested that the scientific evidence shows the dna comes directly from the tissue that has been identified as CNS tissue. That’s obviously a very important mssing link.

MGN Thats the science, the science does not establish that a CNS cell was a cell from Christine Lundy by means of dna analysis, that is accepted. The question of course is how do you get on this tiny little bit of fabric CNS tissue that has been smeared into the fabric? Its the only tissue that the neuropathologists can see, it must have been applied when it was fresh, because its such a small quantity it crumbles and you can’t smear it in, and then the little piece of material, in fact its two pieces of material which sort of adds to the weight, one above the bicep and one on the front of the shirt are eluted into a beaker soak, and this according to ESR removes about 20% of the biological material in the stain, and the only dna is Christine Lundy, and this is the inference, this is an inference case. There is a passage in KOS where he makes the very point Asher has just made, the science can’t do this, its a matter of inference.

WMN Can I ask 2 questions did the elution for each spot produce dna…yes… and was the dab slide or paraffin block taken from the shirt tested for dna? Were the remnants tested for dna?

MGN It didn’t work. There were a number of methodologies looked at but we only used those relevant to the case.

WMN. Did they produce any dna readings from those samples?

MGN From the tissue in the fabric blocks themselves answer no.

WMN And the tissue on the dab slides?

MGN The tissue on the dab slides was too degraded to do anything with at all.”

So on dna but the tissue is pure CNS, so pure that it can only be brain, and CNS is the richest source of mammalian dna? All the dna was removed by rinsing in water?? And the claim it is CNS is supported by no forensic science, just a disease diagnostic process that has never been used again.

No, this is a blatant hoax, and goes to a supreme court bench of 5 where two have already dismissed appeals against Mark Edward Lundy, Susan Glazebrooke and Helen Winkelmann. And the privy council that independently remedied Teina Pora and David Bain has been despatched by a proud self contained country.

Why the hell does Ardern think Braunias writes countless articles on the case if Lundy guilt is a thing? Braunias writes

“I don’t believe he did it”. He should know because he is one of a handful of New Zealanders to have studied the evidence in fine detail and had access to the doctored police notebooks.

How could Ardern put a chief justice in such a wickedly compromised position? This is a pending disaster that Wellington and the whole community observe with a catatonic gaze.

Happy Christmas everyone, Mark was nicked at 41 and turned 60 in captivity on december the 4th. You should hang your heads in collective shame.
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December 23, 2018 8:02am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Hope the prick turns 80 in captivity, if he’s still alive.
  Time for you to end your waffle.
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:05am
- Humble Capitalist
  
  Out of office automatic reply. Thank you for your submission. Our Lundy office is now closed for the Christmas break and quite probably forever after that. And by the way Guilty. Guilty. Guilty.
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:09am
- Monique Watson
  
  I’ve studied the evidence Santa is still alive and found no proof. Doesn’t make me an expert in Criminology. Does give me a vested interest in keeping /legend alive though.
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:15am
- NewInoffensiveName
  
  I do not pretend to have even an opinion on the Lundy case. But am of the opinion that one of the few benefits of having the Queen as head of state was the ability to appeal to the Privy Council. We must accept that NZ has a total population equal to a medium sized city, in global terms. Our talent pool is thus rather limited. In every regard. We are attempting to operate a nation’s governance infrastructure with a resource equal to a city of the size of Johannesburg. Our judicial capacity is constrained by this as much as anything other area needing intellectual horsepower. And our judiciary runs in the same small social circles as the politicians and bureaucrats that they are called upon to adjudicate. Not a great situation that had, before Auntie UN killed it, something of a safety net that gave access to a far more sophisticated group of judges.
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:19am
  - Notsofast
    
    You need not have an opinion on the Lundy case to read the judgement by Mark Cooper, and see that it is a litany of factual and legal errors from start to finish. It is an absolute disgrace, and as I point out, for the next step Lundy is faced down by a chief justice and another judge who have already deemed him guilty beyond doubt. From a pool of 5, two have predetermined his fate.
    Or they can say they were wrong, which people do all the time, not.
    
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    December 23, 2018 8:25am
    - VicParking
      
      I read the opinion by Mickey Mouse which was peer reviewed by Goofy. . They are supported by the three blind mice. 5-0 for Guilty as charged.
      
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      December 23, 2018 8:34am
- WaveyDavey
  
  Still ploughing the fat fuck’s farrow?
  
  Give it up. No one cares.
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:35am
Captain Mainwaring

So Cullen the c**t thinks that Capital Gains Tax is a wonderful idea.
Has anyone asked the useless prick if it works both ways – ie. When property prices, the sharemarket and the value of business etc. goes backwards (as is about to happen), do the punters get a credit?
No, didn’t think so.
2020 can’t come soon enough.
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December 23, 2018 8:02am
- DigNap15
  
  That is why CGT is not a good idea.
  Too much hassle
  Too many loopholes
  The best tax system is a simple one.
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:17am
  - mandk
    
    I think you are right.
    
    It seems to me that the main, and possibly only, beneficiaries of a CGT will be the tax lawyers and accountants.
    
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    December 23, 2018 8:26am
    - stigie
      
      Not happy with people keeping more of their own money the pricks, just another way of distributing wealth to their fucking voter base.
      This will cause people to revolt as enough taxpayer money is already getting to the not so well off via this socialist government.
      Sorry, but the head of the fucking tax working group needs a bullet !~
      
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      December 23, 2018 8:45am
    - Paulus
      
      And they will make sure they do not understand how this CGT works.
      History in the Accounting sphere has shown this before.
      Ignorance is bliss, so it is folly to be wise – call the lawyers.
      
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      December 23, 2018 11:27am
    - Paulus
      
      And Maori who will be exempted.
      
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      December 23, 2018 1:36pm
- KevOB
  
  CGT is being designed as a transfer of wealth to the State tax. The transition is in full swing.
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:24am
- Paulus
  
  No way is there credit for against Capital Loss.
  That’s not socialism.
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:28am
- Ultima
  
  This is the idiot that paid ~$700m for Kiwirail when its not worth $1. The same idiot introduced WFF, are those families better off now and can they afford a house? No, they can’t. Is Kiwirail successful? No it isn’t. Will CGT be anything it set out to be? No it won’t.
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:34am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  A History Teacher and economics is a recipe for failure.
  Get your grubby mits out of my arse pocket.
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:46am
  - Paulus
    
    Typical Pom, when he left Margaret Thatcher’s constituency
    
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    December 23, 2018 11:28am
- peterwn
  
  Labour will find the biggest impediment to CGT is the attitude of the various Iwi who would see it as a claw-back of treaty settlements. The other issue is what does Winston thinks. I suspect he would support a CGT in principle but riddled with so many exemptions as to make it almost useless.
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:53am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Practically every lefty academic I know owns a holiday home or has a little business on the side.
    
    There is hardly a middle-aged schoolteacher in the country that isn’t into property rentals.
    
    I can’t see these folks or their offspring being too keen on a CGT…. Labour had better think long & hard on this issue if they want to retain their band of stooges.
    
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    December 23, 2018 9:09am
    - stephieboy
      
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      MW,” Practically every lefty academic I know owns a holiday home or has a little business on the side.”
      
      Examples and if so the actual harm to society?
      
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      December 23, 2018 9:15am
      - sooty
        
        Do your own homework, wanker!
        
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        December 23, 2018 9:21am
      - VicParking
        
        Jealous are your Stephie. You should have not spent your hard earned donations from Fraser house on Goats and Penicillin.
        
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        December 23, 2018 9:25am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        stephieboy,
        Have you missed the point of my post?
        
        Anyway, why would I name ordinary citizens doing nothing illegal on this public forum?
        
        What business is it of yours to know who I know?
        
        and if so the actual harm to society?
        
        Did I say it harmed society?
        
        Still, you might want to review your Marx primers.
        
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        December 23, 2018 9:36am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        Do keep up Stephieboy.
        The subject is CGT.
        MW did not say homes or holiday homes owned by academics caused harm to society, but is making the point that these would likely be subject to CGT and CGT could prove unpopular with Labour voters.
        Your brainless comment is just another example of your perverted stalking of the women who post on KB and MW in particular.
        See your doctor.
        Sigh.
        
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        December 23, 2018 9:38am
      - Tall Man
        
        Well I’m no lefty but I am fucking rich….
        
        like you will never be steffy girl.
        
        I’m also fucking smart…..
        
        like you will never be steffy girl
        
        ardern is a liar
        
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        December 23, 2018 10:05am
    - realityczech
      
      Maggy is the smartest person stupidboy knows. Even his Imam has trespassed him from the local mosque.
      
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      December 23, 2018 9:41am
    - Inandout
      
      Scratch any socialist and you will find a capitalist lurking, as the old saying goes. Even the hopeless state of North Korea allows mini capitalism to exist, and Mao had his ‘exemptions’.
      
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      December 23, 2018 10:46am
      - igm
        
        Ask Sleeze-Galloway . . . he has a number of rentals.
        
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        December 23, 2018 4:40pm
    - Paulus
      
      I have been told this before by the Tauranga Real Estate offices. Teachers have for years bought rentals rightly to support their pensions. They have the time to do them up in the rental market. So they will not be happy with the CGT as they have made sensible retirement provisions.
      Understand one Teacher couple have nine properties in the BOP region..
      
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      December 23, 2018 11:32am
      - sooty
        
        Plus to get their foot in the door when in country schools with a house.
        
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        December 23, 2018 12:28pm
    - coolas
      
      I fit your lefty academic category Maggy
      
      Chose commercial property investment and the stock market as investment options. Also inherited well.
      
      I would happily pay 15-25% CGTax on sale of property, shares, and inheritance.
      
      Especially inheritance. I did nothing to earn my parents estates. Why shouldn’t inherited wealth be taxed?
      
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      December 23, 2018 6:05pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Why shouldn’t inherited wealth be taxed?
        Indeed.
        
        But how many of your colleagues who may not have inherited wealth, but have ended up quite/or very well-off, share your sentiments?
        
        I’m of the opinion that many of the comfortably well-off lefties will balk at a CGT if it is to be applied to their family home.
        
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        December 23, 2018 6:33pm
      - tf78
        
        coolas be careful what you wish for – in the good old days of death duties you would barely have anything but the family home left to you. That’s what Sir Sick Puppy Cullen is out to do by the look of it.
        
        My stepfather, may he never rest in peace, lost about seven or eight really well situated properties because of it, I’m talking Domain Drive, Dilworth Avenue and Manukau Road in Auckland – all gone just like that.
        
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        December 23, 2018 7:10pm
      - GJM
        
        Nothing stopping you from paying extra tax now. The IRD is never shy about accepting extra money. Strange how the supporters of higher taxes always want others to pay and never lead by example.
        
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        December 23, 2018 10:25pm
  - backster
    
    Peter ….I heard a member of Cullen’s group in an interview state that it was proposed to exempt Maori for that reason.
    
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    December 23, 2018 9:37am
    - Jazzby
      
      Of course. Maori already have special political representation; they have social/ educational benefits not available to other groups; and they have the iwi corporations set up as bogus charities. Exemption to CGT would be just another step towards the ‘two state solution’ in this country.
      And to think that the lefties marched against apartheid in South Africa!
      
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      December 23, 2018 10:45am
    - Inandout
      
      So the logical step would be to align yourself with an iwi somewhere and enjoy the exemptions. What’s the bet Finlayson resumes his legal Treaty business in full knowledge of this?
      
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      December 23, 2018 10:49am
    - peterwn
      
      That would still be where it all falls apart. Labour was too chicken to promise a CGT in the current term. Now the working group is proposing to exempt a group with significant political clout. Pressure will mount for other exemptions leaving the whole thing like a Swiss cheese.
      
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      December 23, 2018 1:56pm
      - Tauhei Notts
        
        It reminds me of Sir Robert Jones famous comment;
        “Talking about Maoris, and, by the way, I am thinking of becoming one…”
        
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        December 23, 2018 9:25pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Who knows what wynston thinks…wynston doesn’t know what wynston thinks.
    
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    December 23, 2018 10:02am
  - kowtow
    
    The gubmint will find ways to exempt Maoris.
    
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    December 23, 2018 4:42pm
    - tf78
      
      I thought these days you just had to “feel Maori”, best learn the language tout suite.
      
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      December 23, 2018 7:13pm
- lastmanstanding
  
  It could be worse than that Capt. The tax may be set on the premise that Gains are taxed but Losses aren’t allowed to be claimed against future Gains.
  
  I wouldn’t put it past these pricks. They are going to piss people off with the CGT so why not add the” no losses claim” clause to make sure they are always on the winning side.
  
  In for a penny in for a pound.
  
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  December 23, 2018 10:10am
  - Paulus
    
    People will not understand until they get a bill from the IRD which says in effect tell us why you should not pay this.
    
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    December 23, 2018 1:39pm
- Kiwi Dave
  
  Ignore that downtick, Captain. Fat fingers struck again.
  
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  December 23, 2018 10:12am
- fluffykiwi
  
  Indeed, look at people’s kiwisaver presently. Bit of a hit for most portfolios. Will that be taken into account in the future that there were losses as an offset against presumed (hopefully) profit.
  As an aside, Kiwisaver presumes there will be profit, otherwise what is the point.
  
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  December 23, 2018 12:25pm
Prince

Amongst the annual political reviews there are two shiboleths that leave me as bewildered as a New Zealand First voter
1) Ardern has been an international star.
How ? When ? Every leader going to a UN talkfest is taken on a round of late night talk shows, for the benefit of their country’s media. Exactly how and where has Ardern achieved anything on the international stage ? Reading a speech to an empty UN auditorium ? Visiting Nauru and finding no one else there ? Sitting next to Mrs Pence ?
Seems to me Ardern and Peters have achieved the remarkable feat of pissing off both the US and China.

2) The claim that Bridges made an error in calling out the expenses leak, leading to the JLR fiasco.
Agreed JLR caused damage, but how would this have played out if Bridges had ignored the leak ? JLR would have continued to gather recordings etc, leading to even greater damage. Seems to me Bridges did his Party a huge favour by standing firm.
I’d like to know exactly how the various political experts would have handled it differently and not allowed the JLR time bomb to build.
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December 23, 2018 8:08am
- Monique Watson
  
  JA’s frightened. Not necessarily a SLG though that was a timely sledge. I’ve been watching her Question Time responses. Mark my words. Another nail in the coffin of the COL.
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:20am
  - mandk
    
    From an opposition point of view, I think it is a waste of time asking Ardern anything at Question Time.
    
    She is quite adept at turning questions into opportunities to grandstand, and she is allowed to get away with not answering the questions put to her.
    
    Far better to attack the CoL where it is weakest, and that probably includes most of the Front Bench.
    
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    December 23, 2018 8:32am
    - peterwn
      
      There is more than the plain answer. It is how the answer is evaded, the look on the Minister’s face etc that counts. Even if a question misfires and the Minister delivers a put-down or grandstands, it yields valuable clues.
      Jacinda can be forgiven for ‘grandstanding’ at question time, John Key was adept at that sort of thing, at least until the Speaker stopped him.
      
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      December 23, 2018 9:06am
      - Paulus
        
        Very few people watch Question Time now as they know that Mallard will only support SLG.
        
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        December 23, 2018 1:44pm
    - septic skeptic
      
      I (mostly) agree. A pride of lions still pick on the weak and sickly members of the herd. Take the low hanging fruit first at question time and ignore Ardern and Robertson. But the probability that Ardern instructed ILG not to deport is too big a deal to miss, so they need to go at this one relentlessly.
      
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      December 23, 2018 11:06am
      - sooty
        
        Yep. There is too many dumb one’s to worry about Comrade JacinDUH! Leave her there without questions except patsys from her idiots. She can’t just not turn up as much as she wants too.
        
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        December 23, 2018 12:38pm
    - KevOB
      
      This grandstanding at QT is a new response by the COLL.
      
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      December 23, 2018 12:08pm
      - Piniwi
        
        Right KevOB as is the constant turning to their right to signal time to laugh like a cue card in a game show. It also makes them look like still being in the opposition benches and mode. The other notable thing is how they have developed the art of cover up as well as the telltale indicator of “seeking advice” as the first line of building that cover up. Hard as it is to listen to the SLG she often tells more than intended or lets a gem slip out. Or by the selected defense being held on hard to often like a life-support loosing it’s buoyancy. like the “text came AFTER the decision.”
        Of bigger concern is acknowledgement of how out of the loop she is when she confesses to only learning about so many in the media. We can only speculate that so much time is wasted creating all her excuses, defending dud decisions and creating word walls leaving little time to do what she should be doing. Another first for the SLG being the first PM to follow rather than lead her Government only keeping up through the Media party. That same group who also boost her confidence by all the glowing praise they heap on them. Even poor old John Armstrong has got back into line as he even thinks even Jones shone with this : “Shane Jones. Like him or loath him, Hew Zealand First’s self-proclaimed “retail politician” finally stepped up to the plate and delivered big time.” Failing to understand that Jones keeps floating to the top of the pond because he such a big turd. A lightweight waste product that only remains when the goodness has gone.
        
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        December 23, 2018 1:55pm
- cmm
  
  Bridges did the right thing popping that zit.
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:22am
- Biscuit
  
  Indeed, Prince, if you read the leftist rabble that ‘write’ for the ‘Horrid’, you’d almost believe that Ardern is going to be unanimously proclaimed Trougher in Chief at the Non-United Nations.
  
  As if…
  
  The UN is governed by Security Council veto … and, as you say, (at least) two of the countries with a veto have been royally peed off by Jass and Winnie…
  
  Of course, if the Annointment AIN’T made, the usual ‘glass ceiling for women’ excuse will be trundled out as it was when Auntie Helen’s hopes for that job were so CRUELLY smashed.
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:24am
  - sooty
    
    Oh, I did love that “cruelly smashed” bit! Can we play it again, Sam!
    
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    December 23, 2018 9:26am
  - Paulus
    
    Clark was nor considered very good at her highly paid job within the UN which us why she got the bums rush for another job.
    
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    December 23, 2018 1:47pm
- Sofia
  
  Prince, I think the media have pulled off a trick not many actually pick up.
  Bridges first asked for an inquiry, along with Speaker Mallard, to find a leak in the system, silly as it was – since the information was released three days later.
  Mallard pulled out when he satisfied himself it was likely a National person.
  
  Bridges was then left seeking who was not just a silly leaker, but who was deemed by then to be a Member who was seriously mentally unwell, threatening to kill his or herself if identified. Bridges, morally, could not allow that to just lapse, silly as the media made him look – and still do – for continuing to try and determine just a simple leak. Bridges is to be commended for persisting. And he was right – Jami-less Ross should be slightly “embarrassed”. Medical mishap is one thing, utter self-interest is another.
  
  Jami-Lee Ross was identified, but always denied the original leaker was him.
  Two days before that leak though, the married female National MP with whom Ross had a three year affair, sent a text to Ross, and amongst other vile abuse, said he deserved to die. She is still out there, and it is not disproven that she was the original leaker, to blow Ross out of the water, as it did, not Bridges.
  For whatever reason, she is left ‘alone’ and is unlikely to even be mentioned in Mallard’s new “Who Is Bullying Who“ Inquiry into Parliament.
  
  In fact if she is not mentioned you will know Mallard’s Inquiry is not worth the paper it will waste being written on, and that the “50 prominent women” who have made a bandwagon they have jumped on out of the tragedy that is the Grace Milan murder, are really only interested in what fits their little narrative.
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:55am
  - Yvette
    
    I am sorry you have mis-spelt Grace Millane’s name
    
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    December 23, 2018 9:47am
    - Sofia
      
      Yes, I regret that.
      It is a sad fact that spell-checker needs checking.
      
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      December 23, 2018 11:04am
DigNap15

Ha!
John Roughan says in todays Herald that most of Ardern’s speeches are forgettable and that she does not really say much worth of note.

Is the worm starting to turn?
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December 23, 2018 8:19am
- KevOB
  
  Speeches? She’s barely liderate. The rest of the COL with rare exceptions r even vurse.
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:26am
- Biscuit
  
  One can but hope, DigNap!
  
  If even a wrong clock can be ‘right’ twice a day, there’s a chance that a ‘newspaper’ like the Horrid might get things ‘right’ once in a while, too!
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:27am
- Justitia
  
  Ardern is vacuous.
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:35am
  - calendar girl
    
    Yes, she is certainly vacuous in what she projects, as well as being the least intelligent NZ Prime Minister whom I have seen in action during my lifetime.
    
    She also has her “vicious’ streak”, as she showed towards the end of 2018’s final Question Time when she targeted her deliberate personal insult at the Leader of the Opposition:
    
    “…. it’s simple, Simon!”
    
    When, and how, is the Opposition going to repay Ardern in spades for that well-rehearsed personal slight against the National Leader? Bridges – unlike herself – actually has a trained and well-proven intellect that operates (and has operated professionally) at a level to which hers could never aspire.
    
    Has an appropriate National assignment team been convened for preparing a retaliatory question or remark for the first 2019 Question Time? Such pay-back question / remark needs to make clever-girl Ardern wish that she had never stooped to directing personal insults at the patently more intelligent and erudite Simon Bridges.
    
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    December 23, 2018 3:06pm
    - RF
      
      Stupid bitch
      
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      December 23, 2018 6:54pm
- pdm
  
  Dignap – she might do bedder speeches next year.
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:36am
  - igm
    
    She will be “thinkink” how to improve her diction!
    
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    December 23, 2018 8:43am
    - Tall Man
      
      dikshun….
      
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      December 23, 2018 10:18am
- Humble Capitalist
  
  Just buzz words/phrases and absoludlies galore.
  Saves her best work for Vogue and Womans Weekly
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:37am
  - sooty
    
    Don’t forget that pom newspaper! I think it was the Orkney Sun, or something.
    
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    December 23, 2018 9:32am
    - Woz
      
      Ha! There is no sun in Orkney. My brother lives there, and looks very Vitamin D-deficient these days.
      
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      December 23, 2018 1:11pm
      - peterwn
        
        Orkney has 1204 hours of sunlight per year, 27% of the time when the sun is up.
        
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        December 23, 2018 1:47pm
  - Paulus
    
    In these magazines anything she tries to say is corrected by the magazine to read as English.
    
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    December 23, 2018 1:49pm
- realityczech
  
  “Is the worm starting to turn?”
  
  This is just one of their soft-focus articles to give the impression of a non biased media. Don’t be fooled.
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:46am
  - stephieboy
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    rc, irony alert of the year so far.
    
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    December 23, 2018 9:18am
    - Tall Man
      
      steffy girl
      
      idiot of the year so far
      
      ardern is a liar.
      
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      December 23, 2018 10:09am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      SB – You obviously don’t know what irony means. Might pay to do a bit of study before making an ass of yourself again.
      Sigh
      
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      December 23, 2018 11:28am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  They are not speeches, just incoherent rabble. At the end you think ‘what did she say?’
  Nothing, sweet FA. Communications my left tit
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:49am
  - septic skeptic
    
    It’s quite revealing to read a transcript when Cindy is speaking ad lib. It’s usually just a few buzz words and slogans that when strung together make no sense whatsoever. Reminiscent of Curran at question time, but with a lot more polish and lipstick.
    
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    December 23, 2018 11:14am
- Liberty
  
  Has the Herald hack just worked that out?
  Speeches such Dear Leaders comrade speech has been around for months.
  Was it reported on the main newspapers and TV news?
  No it was buried. By the lefty media.
  
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  December 23, 2018 9:13am
  - Piniwi
    
    Interesting Liberty that most Stuff puff pieces for the SLG have long comment content as her faithful gather while everybody else just passes it altogether. Compared to the ILG whitewash where they were both getting ripped a new one verbally.
    
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    December 23, 2018 2:07pm
- Tall Man
  
  Read the whole article, he is still smitten by her.
  
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  December 23, 2018 10:08am
  - Inandout
    
    TM, I would suspect Cindy lays on the sexy looks when journalists are around, and they go all Soperish. Journos have all the inside knowledge about every MP in the House, and some of the latter have really juicy histories.
    
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    December 23, 2018 11:01am
EAD_THREE

Good to be back to the cut and thrust of blogging after serving my 2 week ban…..

I has thought wait till mid Jan but sometimes things witnessed in the ~~news~~, daily prole-feed just compels one to comment because the agenda really is becoming quite sinister and obvious

Despite just about every single advert depicting families as being mixed race (gotta accelerate that Kalegri plan folks), there was a massive worldwide media blitz this week urging families to stop at 1 child because of “the mental health issues caused by having a 2nd child”.

In this day & age where diversity is supposed to be the objective of every damn media article and government policy, every damn article depicts a white family

The underlying message – Going extinct is good for you YT. Keeping having those monosprog families while the Government signs up to the UN Migration Pack to overwhelm you with the dusky hordes:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/well-good/teach-me/109411329/having-a-second-child-worsens-parents-mental-health-new-research

https://www.afr.com/lifestyle/having-a-second-child-worsens-parents-mental-health-research-shows-20181218-h198jx

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/7998069/second-child-damaging-mental-health-new-study/

https://uk.style.yahoo.com/second-child-negatively-impact-mums-mental-health-new-research-reveals-112642753.html?guccounter=1

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/18/how-stressful-is-having-a-second-child

Demographics is Destiny
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December 23, 2018 8:20am
Sofia

The final report of the TWG [Tax Working Group] is due late next month. But it’s patently obvious they want to tax your assets either when you sell them, or as those assets increase in value over time.

Either way, it will be one of the major political discussions of 2019. What is recommended by the TWG will become the basis of legislation which Labour will want to be passed into law before the 2020 election, to take effect in 2021. It could be said with some certainty that if a CGT [Capital Gain Tax] is passed into law before the next election, that election will be about CGT and not much else.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12180092

So the Capital Gains Tax, in whatever form, will be Labour Election Policy to be voted on to give it a mandate, but it will already be in law, as were the National tax cuts. which Labour had to enact law to remove as soon as they became this current Government.

So voters will need to be educated to understand that, if National intends getting rid of any new Capital Gains Tax.

What voters can take in and then decide their vote is questionable.

How many last Election voted for Winston, without understanding there is absolutely no way Winston knows what you hoped he would do with your vote. And nothing shows anywhere to even give a hint.

This is the yawning gap in MMP that you can drive any number of trucks through.

[MMP is the voting system foisted on Germany after WW2 to prevent anyone like Hitler ever arising again – but since Winston has arisen, fucked if I know how MMP is supposed to stop stuff like that – shows what the Yanks back then knew]

Winston, once he had the numbers, was utterly free to do whatever he wanted with those votes people gave him. That his caucus had any influence is plain bullshit – consider how he has told Mahuta (re: Te Reo in schools) to get on the same page or leave Parliament and she is not even in New Zealand First.

Things voters will need to know are mounting up –
How Winston works
The Reeferendum on Marijuana
The Capital Gains Tax

and remembering –
Sroubek
UN Immigration Compact
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December 23, 2018 8:28am
- pdm
  
  It will be time to resurrect the old mantra:
  
  DON’T VOTE LABOUR
  and
  DON’T VOTE GREEN
  and
  DON’T VOTE NZ FIRST
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:41am
- igm
  
  Don’t forget Labour sex education camps . . . wood be pissed off if this was taken off the radar.
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:44am
- JibberJabber
  
  [MMP is the voting system foisted on Germany after WW2 to prevent anyone like Hitler ever arising again – but since Winston has arisen, fucked if I know how MMP is supposed to stop stuff like that – shows what the Yanks back then knew]
  
  My understanding is that the German system has regulations stating that the party that has the largest amount of votes is to be included in the government, something the NZ system deliberately avoided when it was implemented just so we get the situation we now find ourselves in, where the losers can cobble together a government.
  I`m sure someone with a better grasp on the system can explain it better than me.
  But our politicians made damn sure the salient points that make the German system work were left out of our system to suit themselves the way politicians always do.
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:47am
  - SGA
    
    My understanding is that the German system has regulations stating that the party that has the largest amount of votes is to be included in the government,
    
    I don’t believe that there is any such requirement, but I am happy to be corrected.
    
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    December 23, 2018 9:31am
  - Jack5
    
    MMP was chosen by the people of West Germany, rather than foisted on them, when the Western Allies returned them self-government after World War 2.
    
    Germany had very similar MMP when Hitler was first elected to the Reichstag before World War 2. Germany amended the system re-introduced after the war by imposing a 5 per cent limit (which Judas Peters now wants reduced in NZ). The limit aimed to reduce the chaos of miniscule parties in the system under which Hitler rose to power.
    
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    December 23, 2018 10:00am
    - realityczech
      
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      December 23, 2018 10:04am
  - Piniwi
    
    Right JJ like the wonky algorithm that denigrates party votes which seems to be what the P for proportional really is in the NZ version of MMP. Thus the more popular a party is the smaller proportion of the party vote is gained while the least popular get the benefit of a whole vote. Proportional yeah right.
    
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    December 23, 2018 2:19pm
- Chris R
  
  I agree and suggest that it is imperative for National and ACT to really bang the drum on tax reform. I think Seymour will do a sound job but National need Judith Collins to be their loud/proud/angry and determined finance/tax attack weapon. We already know that Peters no longer cares about the country and will vote which ever way he feels at any given time. Cullen needs to be regarded as an integral part of the CoL. I detest the CoL.
  
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  December 23, 2018 9:12am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    You’right about Collins being the finance attack dog. Amy Adams is useless and comes across like a flopped pavlova.
    Bishop must be ruing the day he publicly endorsed her as leadership material.
    
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    December 23, 2018 9:35am
    - KevOB
      
      It’s GR who’s the flopped pavlova with jam on.
      Amy Adams has 1st class hons. in law specialising in commercial and property law. She does understand the meaning of GDP unlike the COL.
      
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      December 23, 2018 12:40pm
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        I’m sure you’re right about Amy but that doesn’t make her any good at oratory.
        
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        December 23, 2018 12:54pm
    - Piniwi
      
      Right Captain Mainwaring Adams is way out of her depth in her current shadow role which is such a critical area of weakness for the COL. Unfortunately with so many weak spots it is a challenge for National to cover them all but several opposition members are improving their question skills on the weakest.
      
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      December 23, 2018 2:39pm
      - KevOB
        
        Amy Adams can easily best GR and that’s all she’s presently called to do. She outshines almost all on the COL benches as do the rest of her National colleagues.
        
        Let’s take out the COL first.
        
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        December 23, 2018 5:17pm
- SGA
  
  [MMP is the voting system foisted on Germany after WW2 to prevent anyone like Hitler ever arising again – but since Winston has arisen, fucked if I know how MMP is supposed to stop stuff like that – shows what the Yanks back then knew]
  
  Just imagine it – Over 60s Clubs and Grey Power issuing “brown shirts” to their members and marching en masse to Winston rallies. Plots to firebomb the Beehive too, I suspect.
  I think Godwin’s Law might have got the better of you this time 🙂
  
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  December 23, 2018 9:26am
DigNap15

Irish Teen…

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/national-video/news/video.cfm?c_id=1503075&gal_cid=1503075&gallery_id=202134

The herald just can’t resist it.

One of the family is studying in Bulgaria! One of the most backward countries in Europe.
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December 23, 2018 8:30am
- srylands
  
  “Nilani Suhinthan” That’s a good Irish name. ?
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:46am
  - Tall Man
    
    Leprechaun?
    
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    December 23, 2018 10:22am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Pronounced Thomas o’Leary before 14 pints of Guinness
    
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    December 23, 2018 11:37am
    - starboard
      
      Oh, very good ! Coffee all over my laptop !
      
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      December 23, 2018 11:59am
- cmm
  
  Poor bloody Irish: Invasion by the British, potato famine and now this!
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:53am
  - MH
    
    don’t forget those bloody Spanish Armada people coming ashore, to be shore to be shore.
    
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    December 23, 2018 3:18pm
- Jack5
  
  The Lefists of the print media take delight in printing stories about the plight of migrants who come to NZ with a person in the family who will require expensive, continuing health care.
  
  The families obviously haven’t made full disclosure, because they are then faced with expulsion, and the hacks plead for sympathy for the family.
  
  This at a time, when NZ, only 48th in the world in GDP per capita, is struggling to finance its health system.
  
  It’s interesting that such a South African white family in Otago with a son who had health care needs, was forced to leave the country, while a Malaysian family with a similar problem was allowed to stay in Otago (with the notable support of the local National MP).
  
  I bet the Irish Indians are allowed to stay. If they had been white South Africans or white Irish they would be out.
  
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  December 23, 2018 10:46am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    John Wayne knew how to deal to Indians
    
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    December 23, 2018 11:39am
    - MH
      
      but first he had to put the women and kids in the wagons and then put the wagons in a circle. Winston fell out of one of the wagons and we still went round in circles.
      
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      December 23, 2018 3:20pm
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    December 23, 2018 3:01pm
  - tf78
    
    You can’t stay if you can afford to pay seems rather evident to me.
    
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    December 23, 2018 7:24pm
- Viking2
  
  Fair dinkum red headed Irish lass eh. fucking plonkers.
  
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  December 23, 2018 11:48am
oldpark

Was wondering is our second in command Police Commissioner Wally Haumaha an old son-of -a -gun, or just another clone who dances to the demands of Peters,and Peters Party.It is not every day,such a high profile person can beat a proven case of bullying against some female staff employed by a Government Department.
Even worse he may in the not too distant future get existing Police Commissioners’Job. The salary is circa $750,000 not bad for beating the proven bullying and stand over tactics regarding the young female employees.Nuff said.
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December 23, 2018 8:32am
- MT_Tinman
  
  Given what constitutes “bullying” nowdays and the expense of training a cop (even one who has advanced through the “kick ’em upstairs and let someone else deal with them” tactic) and noting the identity of the nutter who objected to his promotion I’m with Wally on this one.
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:40am
  - KevOB
    
    Rejoice Wally wins. Snowflakes have complained unreasonably too often.
    
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    December 23, 2018 12:45pm
- G152
  
  Not fair picking on Peters pal…
  Empty words will be spoken inside Parliament, mumbles will be heard take my word for it
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:42am
- realityczech
  
  Actually the witch hunt did not prove bullying. A couple of feminist intellectual cripples from the Ministry of Justice moaned about him.
  
  This is a beat up to get a feminist dyke into the job.
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:52am
  - sooty
    
    They have got them everywhere else!
    
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    December 23, 2018 9:38am
  - Tall Man
    
    However, his reaction to that accusation is the major problem. He accessed confidential information then disclosed that information to others.
    
    Not a good look.
    
    Younger officers have been fired from the force for similar incidents.
    
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    December 23, 2018 10:25am
- Yvette
  
  Under Commissioner of Police, Mike Bush there is Deputy Commissioner: National Operations, Mike Clement; Deputy Commissioner: Māori, Pacific & Ethnic Services, Wallace Haumaha; Deputy Commissioner: District Operations, John Tims and Deputy Commissioner: Strategy & Partnerships (acting), Andy Coster.
  
  For some unexplained reason, Haumaha is the only Deputy appointed by the Prime Minister’s recommendation to the Governor General.
  It is doubtful he will ever be Police Commissioner … now
  Haumaha’s duties are the same now as they were before promotion.
  
  Deputy Commissioner: District Operations, John Tims – in charge of the 12 police districts – is presumably more important than Haumaha, or deals with more that contacts the general New Zealand public.
  
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  December 23, 2018 9:14am
- Paulus
  
  Whispered that Haumaha would accept $4,000,000 tax free (as Koha) to retire, and become a Police Maori Consultant.
  
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  December 23, 2018 1:55pm
DigNap15

And the bitch wants to take away my plastic bags and my plastic straws.

Every time I suck on a soggy paper straw I will think of Ardern
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December 23, 2018 8:34am
- waikatogirl
  
  I take pleasure in taking the opposition bags to the supermarket and displaying them in my trolley for all to see while shopping. My little protest for the backwards step of getting rid of plastic bags.
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:54am
  - pdm
    
    Love it WG!!
    
    That is worth more than 1 uptick – take 10 upticks from me.
    
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    December 23, 2018 9:13am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Yes pdm, the supermarket staff do take notice, as do some customers. Especially NW who are owner operators… Take note arseholes, the public are not happy with your crappy PC plastic bag ban!!
      
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      December 23, 2018 9:21am
      - Jack5
        
        Agreed. The co-operative New World supermarkets lots heaps of goodwill from their mainstream customers by bowing, somewhat enthusiastically, to the demands of misery-preaching fanatics from the Green Party and Labour.
        
        Anyone remember what Judas Peters’ view of plastic bags was or is? Presumably, if the bags were nuisance for racecourses Judas would oppose their sale.
        
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        December 23, 2018 10:19am
    - Viking2
      
      Jack5 Bags are good for picking up the horse shit from those good looking nags.
      
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      December 23, 2018 11:51am
      - tf78
        
        Bags, Nags, Fags, Gags, Dags, Hags, Jags, Lags, Mags, Rags, Sags, Tags, Wags, – Winston gets confused – they’re all the same to him.
        
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        December 23, 2018 7:28pm
  - G152
    
    In a years time there will be no operators on checkouts to ‘bag’ or not bag your groceries.
    And another line of unemployed emerge
    
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    December 23, 2018 10:12am
  - Tall Man
    
    Came home from the shopping with my groceries in an Aldi bag.
    
    I then unpacked and counted 11 plastic bags. Four were big buggers for the salmon and were double bagged.
    
    Fruit and veges, plus the ice cream had been wrapped in paper then put in a small bag to keep it cold for the journey home.
    
    It’s just nonsense.
    
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    December 23, 2018 10:28am
  - DigNap15
    
    Yes I bought some T Shirt bags from Tradme and I take those in. And I also take in a coupel of those plastic Cube square storeage boxes.
    I tell every checkout girl that I hate their plastic ban. (nicely as its not their fault)
    They look at me strangely (as they have been SJW brainwashed) and then they often agree with me
    
    Fuck You Greens!
    
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    December 23, 2018 11:01am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      *singlet bags
      
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      December 23, 2018 11:42am
- GazzaW
  
  What ‘ban plastic bags’ campaign?
  I have 300 supermarket-style bags on their way from China at a remarkably good price. I haven’t checked the website but I’m sure paper straws will be available as well.
  
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  December 23, 2018 9:12am
  - tf78
    
    The ridiculous thing Gazza is your bags are now single use, whereas before they weren’t. We bought some too!
    
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    December 23, 2018 9:48am
  - DigNap15
    
    I might order some from Alibabas printed with slogans such us
    L Luv Plastic Bags
    F you Greens
    F U Ardern
    
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    December 23, 2018 11:03am
- stigie
  
  “Triple use plastic bags” !!!!
  
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  December 23, 2018 9:27am
- Inandout
  
  I took a couple of ‘reusable bags’ into Countdown the other day and packed them myself. I was a bit naughty and kept changing items from one bag to the other, much to the annoyance of other shoppers. I just wanted to show how slow some customers can be at packing items, but as the old saying goes’, the customer is always right’.
  
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  December 23, 2018 11:13am
  - stigie
    
    You should have been Inandout quicker than that !~
    
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    December 23, 2018 11:29am
- MH
  
  she is the last straw.
  
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  December 23, 2018 3:23pm
realityczech

Why Are So Many Women Searching for Ultra-Violent Porn?
New data reveals that women in their droves are searching for porn with tags like “extreme brutal gangbang”, “forced” and “rape”.

A quarter of straight porn searches by women are for videos featuring violence against their own sex. Five percent of searches by women are for content portraying nonconsensual sex. While men still search for significantly more porn than women, search rates for these more extreme types of sexual content are at least twice as common among women than men.

#GoVege
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December 23, 2018 8:37am
- realityczech
  
  “If there is a genre of porn in which violence is perpetrated against a woman, my analysis of the data shows that it almost always appeals disproportionately to women,” he writes…he data shows, proportionally, women are also consuming much more of the most extreme misogynistic sexual material available online.
  
  Researchers found that 52 percent of the women had fantasies about forced sex with a man, 32 percent about being raped and 28 percent about forced oral sex with a man. Overall, 62 percent of the women reported having had at least one fantasy around a forced sex act.
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:59am
- Longknives
  
  More surprising were the stats on most searches for ‘Women in ‘Full Burkha’ and ‘Young Honeypots’!
  All came back to an Auckland address…
  
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  December 23, 2018 9:01am
  - realityczech
    
    Guten Morgen Herr Knives.
    
    Seems a lot of people are uncomfortable with female sexuality here on KB, or maybe it is statistical data they don’t like?
    
    I bet the down tickers are sexos, pedos and pervs. Any discussion about these sorts of things brings them out. Child molesters are very vocal about protecting kids and child welfare, for example.
    
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    December 23, 2018 9:13am
  - Manolo
    
    Has our resident Muslim confessed his female preferences?
    
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    December 23, 2018 11:24am
    - sooty
      
      Yep! He prefers goats!
      
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      December 23, 2018 12:47pm
- burt
  
  Are you surprised. Of course woman watch that sort of porn, why wouldn’t they?
  
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  December 23, 2018 9:17am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  rc, but there is hope for you,
  
  “The Ethical way to watch porn” from your rubbish link,
  
  https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/nznqd7/how-to-watch-porn-without-being-a-dick
  
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  December 23, 2018 9:21am
  - All_on_Red
    
    We bow to your superior experience with Porn eh Pervertboy
    
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    December 23, 2018 9:33am
    - realityczech
      
      Pornhub does not host the sort of content stupidboy seeks.
      
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      December 23, 2018 9:36am
      - Wangas Feral
        
        He loves those jihadis. Giving head means something different in his circle.
        
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        December 23, 2018 10:38am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  A lot of women will orgasm when raped which messes them up psychologically, they don’t know that it’s an involuntary instinctive response, and imagine it means that they secretly wanted it. Rape also greatly increases chances of conception (probably good for evolutionary survival reasons when your village got invaded and all men killed)
  
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  December 23, 2018 9:22am
  - realityczech
    
    Yes it is complicated. Fantasy and reality often differ around sexuality.
    
    The popularity, among women, of things like Fifty Shades of Grey and violent porn, show that what women say and what they respond to are different. They are natures ultimate virtue signallers.
    
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    December 23, 2018 9:35am
    - Jack5
      
      Hell, ❗Kea❗Realityczech, what have they put in the parrot seed at the ? wildlife park ? today? Can we all have some?
      
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      December 23, 2018 10:08am
      - realityczech
        
        Shalom Jacksie, yes I saved some Kosher seeds for you. 🙂
        
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        December 23, 2018 10:23am
  - Inandout
    
    A can of worms there, UN.
    
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    December 23, 2018 1:11pm
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Difficult to believe (climax while raped). Women are far more likely to climax in a trusting relationship and with the man’s effort to give them clitoral stimulation.
    
    As for the porn: fantasies are a very long way from reality.
    
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    December 23, 2018 5:00pm
Biscuit

Dare I point out (?) that we truly are living in an Age of Wonder and that we have so much to be thankful for.

No, nothing to do with Jass and her kind, compassionate Government.

Nope.

LIVERPOOL ARE FOUR POINTS CLEAR AT THE TOP OF THE PREMIER LEAGUE!
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December 23, 2018 8:45am
- James Stephenson
  
  It’s not just Corbyn and Ardern that are intent on taking us back to the dark days of the 1970’s…
  
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  December 23, 2018 9:07am
- Happychappy
  
  Don’t talk to loud as they have not won the Premier League in the modern era and were so close a couple of years ago only to fall in the final hurdle. But in saying that Biscuit in will be good for English football for them to be Premier League favorites again.
  
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  December 23, 2018 9:28am
- VicParking
  
  Proves you can Buy anything if you have the money
  
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  December 23, 2018 9:32am
  - Pharmachick
    
    Yes and no… Klopp paid a lot for Van Dijk and Allison, but Robertson was embarrassingly cheap, as was Mo Salah (in hindsight). Plus with what he got for Coutinho and a couple others it all comes out a wash. In the meantime he’s building a team of guys that work well together and respect each other.
    
    So, nothing like Moaninho then.
    
    PS hey Buiscuit YNWA ?
    
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    December 23, 2018 2:59pm
- Pharmachick
  
  Love the optimism Biscuit, and its even possible you’re more of a fan than me (maybe), but Jan 3rd against City is critical.
  
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  December 23, 2018 3:55pm
howzit

In the absence of the ailing blubbery one SB is still showing their love for the poison dwarf. Me thinks this obsession will be the death of both WO and NZF
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December 23, 2018 8:46am
cmm

I see Whale Oil is pulling a major shill for Winston over the signing of the Compact.

Sure it is not binding, but as has been pointed out, it can be used by the courts as a device for interpreting the law (ie. gives our leftie dud judges wiggle room).

Apparently they signed because:
” 1. They see it as a “cooperation framework that was clearly set out at the start of the compact’s negotiations process in 2016 when the New York Declaration for Refugees and Migrants was unanimously adopted by all UN member states, including New Zealand under the previous government,
2. Because they support greater efforts in controlling migration issues.”

What bullshit. You can still participate and cooperate and control without signing anything.

No doubt USA and Australia (who did not sign) will still be participating and cooperating.
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December 23, 2018 8:49am
- Yvette
  
  ‘Less we forget –
  
  Immigrants from countries who “treat their women like cattle”, should be interviewed to check their attitude before entry into New Zealand, says NZ First leader Winston Peters.
  
  “They could come from anywhere in the world, as they have, and some have been brilliant people who have come into this country as both refugees and immigrants.
  
  “But here’s what we want. We want them to salute our flag, respect our laws, honour our institutions and, above all, don’t bring absolutely anti-women attitudes with them, treating women like cattle, like fourth-class citizens.”
  
  Women in New Zealand needed to “wake up to what’s going on”.
  Talking to Fairfax Media later, Peters took issue with questions over whether the policy was directed toward Muslim countries.
  
  “There are countries I had in mind, they’re not specifically of any one religion. But they’re parts of the world, where women are treated like cattle.
  
  “Those countries are well known to us, and they don’t have any specialty apart from the fact that that’s how they treat women.”
  – https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/80761652/interview-every-migrant-into-nz-says-winston-peters
  
  – or, has Winston forgotten?
  
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  December 23, 2018 9:18am
  - sooty
    
    Whinney could not remember, yesterday. Let alone last week, last year. Why do you think he is such a mumble fuck in the house!
    
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    December 23, 2018 9:47am
    - Viking2
      
      We want them to salute our flag, respect our laws,
      
      oh hang on there.
      
      We have our own indigenous lot that don’t do that.
      Some don’t even want to use our National Flag let alone salute it.
      As for respecting our Law? who is the largest group of people in jails and why? They don’t respect our Law.
      
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      December 23, 2018 12:06pm
  - tf78
    
    Bacon sandwich test!
    
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    December 23, 2018 10:23am
    - simpleton1
      
      Muruna , by appearing contrary, like drinking, to hide a muslims real intentions.
      There seems to be a way of lying for every occasion to get where they want.
      
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      December 23, 2018 10:37am
- VicParking
  
  USA and Australia, ar’nt those the countries you need visa’s to get into, including a clean criminal record, Health insurance and a return ticket.
  
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  December 23, 2018 9:34am
- brett68
  
  Slater’s using Winston Peters lawyer for his court cases.
  
  https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2018/11/23/334667/whaleoil-and-peters-lawyer-suffer-setback-in-defamation-case
  
  Could be he’s getting a cheaper rate in exchange for xxxx number of posts that are positive for Peters and NZ First.
  
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  December 23, 2018 9:46am
  - Jack5
    
    If anyone still reads Whale, can they tell us where Whale stands on the UN’s deviously draconian Global Migrant Pact?
    
    Has Whale condemned NZ ~~Fust~~ ~~First for betraying its voters on this?~~
    
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    December 23, 2018 10:24am
    - Jack5
      
      Edit: Has Whale condemned NZ ~~Fust~~ First for betraying its voters on this?
      
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      December 23, 2018 10:35am
      - brett68
        
        Slater only cares about Slater and what makes money for Slater.
        
        He’s just a really shitty individual.
        
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        December 23, 2018 11:06am
  - fluffykiwi
    
    Mr Slater is conspicuous by his absence from most things appearing on Whaleoil. It appears to be run by others now.
    
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    December 23, 2018 12:40pm
- Wangas Feral
  
  I think you will find they ran “the other side of the debate”. Hardly shilling for NZF to show what NZF is telling their own supporters.
  
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  December 23, 2018 10:40am
- Piniwi
  
  Right cmm as so many faithful NZF supporters are still racing to make excuses for old Winston First forgetting every thing promised to attract votes he might be a bit concerned about his future now. The message he sent out to defend this last failure is a sign he is a bit concerned especially after the social media backlash. All he has to offer are hollow excuses with barely any reasons why it was in NZ interest to have open borders. Clinging desperately to the excuse National agreed to sign along with every other member country to the process of drawing up a UN initiative. The heavy influence of bigger influences served to trash that plan which National rejected without reservation when it was released.
  This is just another glory trip for the SLG which apart from being one move too many for NZF supporters even too much for those who think the SLG is doing anything but feathering her own nest. Plus it has the potential to fester away until Parliament returns to be top of the question list along with so many outstanding issues from a very bad year.
  
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  December 23, 2018 11:42pm
DifferentPerspective

Why signing the UN migration pact will be bad for NZ

Lovely footage of an old Danish woman enjoying the diversity dividend of being beaten up by migrant animals from some shithole – can’t wait to when the first shipment arrives here.

Still it isn’t all bad – the pact has been terrible for the Belgian PM (goodbye – you are the weakest link) and still unpleasant for the French guy named after a punctuation mark. Hear that bell Jacinda? Guess who it is tolling for?
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December 23, 2018 8:50am
- Jack5
  
  It’s tolling for Judas Peters, but he doesn’t give a stuff.
  
  He’s planning for retirement before he goes to the big race meeting in the sky.
  
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  December 23, 2018 10:25am
VicParking

In January CNN was saying “Donald Trump warned against foreign wars, not least in Syria. A year into his presidency, he is adding Syria to a list of open-ended conflicts that already includes Afghanistan and Iraq. His plan seems poorly conceived, too dependent on military action and fueled by wishful thinking“
Now in December they are saying “The withdrawl plan is abrupt and dangerous decision, detached from any broader strategic context or any public rationale, sowed new uncertainty about America’s commitment to the Middle East”
According the US what every Trump Does is wrong, In NZ what every Cindy does is right. A diametrically opposed strategy. ❄️❄️❄️❄️
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December 23, 2018 8:52am
srylands

Went to Mitre 10 yesterday. Bought about 10 items. Got to checkout. Then remembered they don’t have plastic bags. The checkout operator pointed me to a stack of dilapidated cardboard boxes. Fuck it’s like being in the third world. So I bought yet ANOTHER “reusable” bag for $2. The environmental impact of the bags I have bought in the last two months will exceed 10 lifetimes of plastic bag use.

On the way out I pondered that most items in my bag were encased in thick plastic shells. Even a fucking spanner. Hell even the yellow hi viz vest I bought was wrapped in plastic.
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December 23, 2018 8:52am
- VicParking
  
  Alzheimers is a bastard. Put a sign the inside of your front door. “Don’t forget my support person”
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:57am
- mandk
  
  “The environmental impact of the bags I have bought in the last two months will exceed 10 lifetimes of plastic bag use.”
  
  You can easily do the right thing for the environment by buy 500 shopping bags on trademe for $20.
  
  And how about removing all the plastic packaging from the items you buy as soon as you have finished at the checkout, and leaving it for the shop to deal with?
  
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  December 23, 2018 9:12am
  - srylands
    
    Once they are banned, it will be unlawful to sell plastic bags on trademe.
    
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    December 23, 2018 9:29am
    - GazzaW
      
      Do you think that I will face smuggling charges by buying them from Amazon?
      
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      December 23, 2018 9:45am
      - srylands
        
        No but if customs opens the parcel I bet they will confiscate them. As I understand it plastic bags with handles will be a prohibited import. Like ivory for example. Seriously.
        
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        December 23, 2018 10:58am
- waikatogirl
  
  I don’t have room in my car boot anymore. It is full of damn supermarket shopping bags!!!!! ? ? ?
  
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  December 23, 2018 11:10am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    1. Can I remember to take one or two of them out of the boot when I drop by the Kaiti 4 square to pick up JUST a plastic container of milk?
    
    and
    2. Can I remember to take the unloaded eco-bags back down to the garage?
    
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    December 23, 2018 11:44am
jcuk

I arrive at KB and find it is yesterday when i thought it was today…. xmas day is not two days off but tomorrow which means it must surely be the 24th today and not as this thread claims the 23rd ????????????
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December 23, 2018 8:59am
- jcuk
  
  My watch suggest it is three minutes slow also 🙂
  
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  December 23, 2018 9:00am
  - jcuk
    
    Oh dear!It seems the rest of the world including the standardistas thinks it is Sunday and not Monday 🙁
    
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    December 23, 2018 9:13am
    - jcuk
      
      and they are correct too 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
      
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      December 23, 2018 11:29am
- Komata
  
  Jcuk
  
  So today will be yesterday tomorrow?
  
  It’s possible old chap, it’s possible…
  
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  December 23, 2018 9:13am
Left Right and Centre

When the made up non-word ‘wellness’ is accepted in New Zealand, this country is just a weak puppet state of America.

Let’s start driving on the right hand side too – and copy every single Americanism there is.
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December 23, 2018 9:07am
- mandk
  
  Right back at you, buddy!
  
  We’ll be doing it momentarily.
  
  Have a nice day.
  
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  December 23, 2018 9:14am
- Jules99
  
  I get sick of the Americanism ‘outage’. No it’s a power cut.
  
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  December 23, 2018 9:52am
- greybeard
  
  We have gotten very sloppy with our language.
  
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  December 23, 2018 10:43am
  - Pharmachick
    
    Heh! …gotten… snigger
    
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    December 23, 2018 3:13pm
Captain Mainwaring

Poor old Notsofast didn’t last long this morning.
Bloody good job. Why does he waste his time?
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December 23, 2018 9:09am
Komata

Srylands

You have my sympathy, but because you DIDN’T by a ‘single use plastic bag’ you are now an ‘Environmental hero’ and some anonymous sealion somewhere is thanking you for your thoughtfulness ( and the accountants at Mitre 10 are rubbing their hands in glee because they managed to sell you an el cheapo [also plastic] bag at a massive mark up).

You have done well for the environment, so pat yourself on ‘wherever’ and feel self-righteous for a few seconds; Mr Shaw would approve

(BTW: Would y’like to buy some chinese plastic bags; asking for a friend- they’re cheap…)
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December 23, 2018 9:11am
lifesgood

Can someone please tell me what is the difference between having skills and having a skill set? Skill set sounds like silly, trendy jargon to me.
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December 23, 2018 9:14am
- Southern Raider
  
  Skill set is normally a group of skills related to one activity like marketing or sheet metal engineering
  
  “Skills” is probably more aligned with Labour MPs being random non useful hobbies
  
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  December 23, 2018 9:23am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  A skill is being able to do a job because of experience. A skill set is being able to bullshit about being able to do that job.
  
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  December 23, 2018 9:34am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Oh, one downtick from a union pussy
    
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    December 23, 2018 5:54pm
DigNap15

I am sick of the PC crap.
The only good thing was that it stopped us calling disabled people Spastics.
But aside from that I never use it.
And try to be as un PC as I can.

@Straight White men Matter
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December 23, 2018 9:14am
- stephieboy
  
  DiNap15, suggestion. Put your head in an unflushed dunny and flush yourself down!
  
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  December 23, 2018 9:23am
  - Komata
    
    Oh SB, aren’t you just SOOOOO clever with your words….!!!
    
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    December 23, 2018 9:26am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Sqwawk!
    
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    December 23, 2018 9:39am
  - G152
    
    Coming from the groups shithead that’s almost but not quite funny
    
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    December 23, 2018 10:17am
  - Tall Man
    
    spastic.
    
    ardern is a liar.
    
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    December 23, 2018 10:36am
  - DigNap15
    
    I think you should be on the Standard Blog, You might get an up tick there.
    
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    December 23, 2018 11:06am
- tf78
  
  DigNap15, funny that all these libtarts father’s are straight white men (unless they came from a test tube). I wonder what they think of their offspring.
  
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  December 23, 2018 10:31am
  - MCos
    
    That would be ‘libtard’
    
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    December 23, 2018 3:38pm
- Jazzby
  
  Ah yes, but you are prepared to think for yourself; the attraction of political correctness is that it obviates the need for creative, critical, constructive or honest thinking. It appeals to the lazy and stupid, and that’s why so many of these petty ‘personalities’ (I’m sure that you can name a few) trot it out. Just chant the mantra, and all will be well; challenge the new orthodoxy and you’ll be branded a bigot, reactionary, and much worse.
  It’s a re-run of the Victorian pseudo-morality that, thankfully, burned itself out by the twenties. Hopefully, PC will go the same way. In the meantime, all power to you for refusing to succumb to such mindless drivel.
  
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  December 23, 2018 11:02am
- Pharmachick
  
  Yeah, but spastic is a recognized medical term meaning floppy musculature and/or muscle spasms that render the person incapable.
  
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  December 23, 2018 3:16pm
  - Jazzby
    
    Not quite right. The muscles are not floppy, but hypertonic; that is, in a constant state of increased tension. Spasms may, or may not, be superimposed on this.
    
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    December 23, 2018 5:37pm
Southern Raider

Principals going to march on Parliament

Who would have thought this would happen under Labour
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December 23, 2018 9:21am
- Komata
  
  SR
  
  So it’s a ‘Matter of Principal’ then?
  
  (Asking for a friend).
  
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  December 23, 2018 10:43am
- Nermal
  
  It’s a shame they aren’t principles. The government needs more of them and fewer principals
  
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  December 23, 2018 2:42pm
- MCos
  
  There’s 2500 principals in NZ.
  Should be quite an impressive protest if they all turn up.
  
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  December 23, 2018 3:51pm
Humble Capitalist

So they blank out the word faggot from ‘Fairytale of New York’ on the radio now. Just fucked the only good christmas song in my opinion
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December 23, 2018 9:31am
- Jules99
  
  Did they blank out all the other words? You know, the real swear words.
  
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  December 23, 2018 9:54am
  - Humble Capitalist
    
    Only the faggot got blanked
    
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    December 23, 2018 10:35am
    - Humble Capitalist
      
      Spare a thought for all the maggots out there that still get offended every time it comes on
      
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      December 23, 2018 11:17am
holysheet

One day a man went into a restaurant and ordered a bowl of soup. The waitress brought his order out to him on a tray with her middle finger immersed in the middle of his soup bowl.

“What the hell’s the idea of putting your finger in my soup bowl?” the man bellowed at the waitress.

“My doctor said the best thing for my rheumatism was to keep my finger pressed in a warm damp place,” the waitress informed him.

“Oh yeah,” the man shouted, “then why don’t you take that finger of yours and shove it up your fat ass?”

“I’m sorry sir the waitress replied, but I already tried that before I brought your soup out.”
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December 23, 2018 9:38am
hullkiwi

2018 was the year of 5 babies to 5 couples. One was to the Duke & Duchess of Cambridge, so is irrelevant to this post.
However, 4 babies of note were born to NZ couples.
1. The first would have remained out of the news, had the father not become leader of the opposition in April. In this instance the parents did a few pieces in the mags, but since then the baby and other children in the family have been kept away from the media glare.

2. In January (in the middle of the political dead season), we are subjected to the “wonderous news” that she who we were told (during the election campaign) had no plans to have a baby (a lie) was indeed pregnant. Praise be, NZ was to be the first country in the world, where the sitting PM would become a mother, whoops- it was quickly pointed out we would be the second. During the following 5vmonths we suffered the Show Pony, being just that a show pony. With the aid of the Labour spin machine she was being portrayed as Superwoman, only for her to be able to say publicly she was neither Supereoman or Wonder Woman, she was just doing her job. Rxcept she has been doing her job badly.

Eventually, the baby was born, and as expected the child’s parents have not been shy to use the child for publicity purposes when the time has called for it & this will remain so while the NLB/SLG remains PM. I feel sorry for this girl that her parents are so shameless that she is used as publicity material to further their respective careers.

3. In August, Kiwi baby of note 3 was born, once again it was a political baby. Once again, there was crass political grandstanding to the extent that expectant mum and father rode bikes, and the luggage and support crew went in a car to the hospital, a spectacular media back fire for the Commie Yank. Indeed her attempts at using the baby in the media have fizzled. May be she should just accept she is just another MP with a sprig and most of us “quite frankly, don’t give a damn”.

4. Finally, a week or so ago Kiwi baby of note No. 4 was born to Richie & Gemma McCaw. Like Baby no 1 there was little fanfare (unlike babies 2 & 3) in fact I only recall once hearing Gemma McCaw was pregnant and caught news last week she had given birth to a baby girl. Indeed, during this week the media were so lacking in news, they were looking for news on the “missing baby McCaw”. All I can say is, kudos to Richie and Gemma McCaw with regards to protecting your daughter from the media, this is how it should be.

Children do not ask/volunteer to be media publicity material for their parents and nor should they be used as such. My respect to the Bridges and McCaws and I wish your respective families well.

To the other two, for what it is worth, during the summer holidays, learn & reflect on what it means to to be parents, learn how not to use your children as publicity material to further your careers. Because if your children have any IQ, they will not be grateful for how you have used them while you should have been a family together as they are growing up.
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December 23, 2018 9:44am
- Komata
  
  Hk
  
  An excellent post; thank you. Perhaps wrongly, one does get the impression that the SLG child is somewhat akin to a fashion accessory in a manner reminiscent to the ‘dogs in handbags’ craze as epitomised by a certain American hotel-chain heiress.
  
  Sadly, on that basis, it is equally possible that said small human may also suffer a somewhat similar fate, being assigned to a ‘Nanny’ (A very ‘Capitalist’ thing to do BTW, and something not unknown in Communist leadership circles), when mummy becomes tired of its novelty and the usefulness wears off.
  
  I suspect the latter stage may be approaching and as the boyfriend recommences ‘fishing’, likely to arrive sooner rather than later.
  
  The MSM will, of course say nothing, but perhaps CYFS should be watching, just in case…?
  
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  December 23, 2018 11:00am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Komata, the SLG and her child remind me of that silly air head Victoria Beckham and her brood. VB I one of those who lives for the oxygen of publicity and needs stories about her (as she is devoid of any real talent). So, she is shameless about using her family in stories to further her cause.
    
    All you can do is feel sorry for kids, because as you say, they are nothing but an accessory, used to further the interests of the parent.
    
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    December 23, 2018 11:46am
    - Komata
      
      HK
      
      At least VB has actually DONE something (if only in ‘Fashion’); the SLG has merely destroyed a country at a (her) whim.
      
      Not in the same league really.
      
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      December 23, 2018 1:16pm
      - hullkiwi
        
        In fashion, she is just the name….
        
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        December 23, 2018 1:52pm
- fluffykiwi
  
  Curious to know whether Genter rode a bike back home when she left the Birthing centre following the birth. Now having had children I would give her full marks for fortitude if she had. ha ha
  
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  December 23, 2018 12:45pm
- Paulus
  
  Sadly, if I recollect in the last 40 years two very prominent Political senior persons, both now passed away, have had the tragedy of losing a young adult child.
  Surely any Political person would consider that the long term future is more important than political and personal ambitions.
  
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  December 23, 2018 2:07pm
Albert_Ross

That is an excellent article by Damien Grant in today’s Stuff, concerning the Greens’ approach to climate change. He makes the point that the political Right should have been making all along, instead of making themselves look like anti-science, anti-scientist, anti-intellectual neanderthals: That climate change does indeed need to be addressed, but extreme socialism is a crap-awful way to address it. By insisting on associating the two, the Greens are doing grave damage to society, the economy and the environment itself.

And the Right has let them do it, by trying to fight the battle on the grounds of whether there is a problem at all rather than on what the solution should be. This has – counterproductively and completely unnecessarily – put the Right into the position of questioning the integrity of scientists and science itself. That doesn’t help much, does it, when confronted with anti-vaxxers, 1080 opponents and anti-plastic campaigners.
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December 23, 2018 9:55am
- realityczech
  
  Caring for the environment is not a left/right thing. It is not a political statement.
  
  However the Greens are not motivated by concern for the environment. They are a radical far left activist group. They care nothing for the natural world. Once maybe, but not now days.
  
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  December 23, 2018 10:02am
- wiseowl
  
  ‘That climate change does indeed need to be addressed’
  No it doesn’t.
  It’s a natural phenomenon.
  Man can do nothing to ‘address’ it.
  And indeed giving $100 billion to the UN every year is not going to alter the temperature one bit.
  Carbon is not a problem.
  
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  December 23, 2018 10:14am
  - realityczech
    
    Carbon is the basis of all life as we know it. The same carbon found in organic things like coal, crude oil, and “organic” mung beans grown by communists.
    
    Organic actually means carbon based.
    
    Causing me much amusement at pretentious cafes.
    
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    December 23, 2018 10:28am
    - Jack5
      
      Ah, the tourist cafes, where keas hop around cadging food and drink.
      
      So the clever mountain parrots take in the pretentious Green chatter around those tables? ?
      
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      December 23, 2018 10:31am
      - realityczech
        
        Jacksie, got some nice German pork knuckle, cooked in it’s mothers milk, for you.
        
        Make sure you get the nits out of your shtreimel before you come for dinner though.
        
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        December 23, 2018 10:33am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Organic actually means carbon based.
      
      I’m still trying to get my head around Organic salt.
      
      https://www.organicauthority.com/eco-chic-table/organic-salt-may-save-your-life
      
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      December 23, 2018 10:35am
      - realityczech
        
        You think you have problems Wiggles – I am still trying to source vegetables that are not organic ;
        
        Read the link. Apparently sodium chloride is not salt. I learnt something new today.
        
        Lucky we have these people running the country, to save us the trouble of thinking about it ourselves.
        
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        December 23, 2018 10:41am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @rc
        
        I thought I was up with the play…
        I had a M-in-Law that could identify empty calories.
        Worked wonders when she was alive and I could deny the hubby his lollies and chockies.
        
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        December 23, 2018 10:47am
      - greybeard
        
        This nothing to do with food being organic, but I had to laugh when I read the label on my Himalayan Rock Salt said to be from a salt bed “over 250 million years old”.
        
        The label also stated “Best before 05/01/19”.
        
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        December 23, 2018 10:51am
      - realityczech
        
        “over 250 million years old”
        
        Wow imagine how healthy Coal is then!
        
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        December 23, 2018 10:59am
      - Komata
        
        Maggie
        
        Especially when it has an expiry date and is supposedly several millenia old…
        
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        December 23, 2018 11:09am
      - septic skeptic
        
        CNa2Cl2 tastes much better in gluten free baking and is better for the environment – so there ?
        
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        December 23, 2018 11:38am
      - KevOB
        
        Delightful: sal au naturel. Hope it doesn’t contain arsenic, thallium, mercury, tellurium…
        Like essential oils some constituents of natural products may be highly toxic.
        
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        December 23, 2018 1:05pm
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      To the scientist, “organic” means “carbon-based.”
      
      To too many people, “organic” means “I can virtue-signal with this!”
      
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      December 23, 2018 11:08am
    - Albert_Ross
      
      True, but irrelevant, because no climate scientist – no scientist of any kind – says that “carbon is a problem”.
      
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      December 23, 2018 3:46pm
      - realityczech
        
        Albert_Ross, yes but the activists who promote climate hysteria, to people like you, do think its a problem.
        
        Just ask some virtue signalling millenial and see.
        
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        December 23, 2018 3:56pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Yea, they are saying carbon is a problem.
        
        They talk of Carbon emissions (but don’t mean soot)
        https://www.everbluetraining.com/blog/what%E2%80%99s-problem-carbon-emissions
        
        You are not keeping up with the new terminology.
        
        “The low Carbon future”
        https://www.newscientist.com/article/2178957-towards-a-low-carbon-future/
        
        The Carbon economy
        https://www.bioenergy.org.nz/documents/resource/Report-Transition-to-Low-Carbon-Economy-for-NZ-1.pdf
        
        These folks are using Carbon to mean a lot more than Diamond, Graphite, Soot or Coal.
        
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        December 23, 2018 3:59pm
      - realityczech
        
        Oh you and your pesky science Wiggles.
        
        Evidence is okay, but what about the feelz? 🙂
        
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        December 23, 2018 4:12pm
  - Paulus
    
    Stop the Global Warming !
    Krakatoa has blow today – again pouring out more ash in one day than the rest of the world in a year
    
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    December 23, 2018 2:09pm
    - Tall Man
      
      But volcanoes are “organic” so they’re OK.
      
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      December 23, 2018 2:51pm
Manolo

Will it happen?
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-reportedly-irate-over-fed-interest-rate-hike-mulls-ousting-powell-2018-12-22
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December 23, 2018 9:58am
- Jack5
  
  Maybe it’s time politicians did rein in some of the unelected heads of central banks.
  
  Keeping them separate from political influence helped bring inflation under control, but since then they’ve done little with their vast power to show their worth.
  
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  December 23, 2018 10:30am
  - Jules99
    
    I think Trump will end the fed at some point. As you say, banking elites should not control the money supply. Most people think the markets will crash soon, so maybe Trump is lining up the fed to take the blame.
    
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    December 23, 2018 11:04am
    - KevOB
      
      Too late: the FED (and other central banks) created too much liquidity to cover up last GFC. They did not however let bad banks and co-parties go bust making it worse for the present. The FED and others were irresponsible and if they loose the privileged rights over money creation they can only blame themselves.
      They have flown in the face of common sense with negative interest rates. Expect more.
      
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      December 23, 2018 5:30pm
lifesgood

Jacinda claimed in her end of year speech that under the col 60 million trees had been planted!!!! Is there any truth at all in that or is it just another of her big, fat lies?
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December 23, 2018 10:05am
- rangitoto
  
  Those trees are planted every year. Just normal replanting.
  
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  December 23, 2018 10:21am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It is an estimate from MPI, “Tracking progress of the One Billion Trees Programme”
  https://www.teururakau.govt.nz/funding-and-programmes/forestry/planting-one-billion-trees/tracking-progress-of-the-one-billion-trees-programme/
  
  Govt has funded 7.5M of those trees……
  sort of implying 53M were just the normal replant/new plant undertaken by established forestry.
  
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  December 23, 2018 10:24am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Didn’t the 7.5m trees the govt funded end up in the shredder?
    Does SLG not think it’s important to plant the trees in the ground.
    
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    December 23, 2018 11:57am
  - cmm
    
    The government funded NOTHING.
    
    Us taxpayers funded 12M trees, but:
    * 7.5 got planted and most of those will likely just die.
    * a few million got turned into compost.
    
    If you want to screw a job up, then give it to the government – especially this mob.
    
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    December 23, 2018 2:43pm
- Sofia
  
  Government has directly funded 7,570,000 tree seedlings committed for planting in 2018.
  https://www.teururakau.govt.nz/funding-and-programmes/forestry/planting-one-billion-trees/tracking-progress-of-the-one-billion-trees-programme/
  
  They admit to mulching 504,500
  When the land was found to be choked with scrub, the number of hectares plunged … just 191,000 pine seedlings were planted out of the 1.2 million ordered.
  “Of the seedlings left, half were distributed to other joint ventures and half were mulched,” a spokeswoman said.
  
  So at the most the Government can only have planted 7,065,500 of their own seedlings in 2018.
  
  Forestry plants the rest and normally only a couple of thousand hectares more than they cut down, so while they would seem to plant about 53 million trees, they will have felled about 50m and the difference will be about 3 million.
  
  Ardern is repeating Shane Jones’s mistruth.
  
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  December 23, 2018 11:36am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    And even though I know I am repeating myself….
    
    To achieve the 1Bn trees in the ground by 2028, the Government needs to have 100M trees planted each year. (see the side bar counter)
    
    So we are already about 40M trees behind the ball game.
    
    For the 2019 planting season, the trees should all be ordered; the planting sites should have been identified, and preparation for planting (weed clearance, weed spraying), road construction started; labour and machinery needed should have been jacked up by now.
    
    And as far as I can see for the East-Coast, the piggy-wiggies are still flying free.
    
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    December 23, 2018 11:54am
    - Sofia
      
      No, Maggy, I am sorry but suggest you do have the figures wrong.
      
      If forestry have planted their usual number of trees, it is about 50m.
      They plant about 50m and fell about 48m.
      
      The rest are Shane’s – only about 7 million at the most
      So he is around 93m short of the side-bar goal of 100m.
      
      Note too: that following best forestry practice, after planting there is usually a pruning at 4 years and another at seven years, leaving (with pines) about 30% of the original number planted. So to count 1 billion trees at the end, Shane should need to plant 3 billion to start with, but I don’t think anyone has told him that yet, and he sure as Hell certainly won’t want to hear about it anycase.
      
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      December 23, 2018 12:38pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Perhaps Sofia the generous financial support for NZ First for the last election was more to gain more land for planting that they are struggling to find? As well as selling them the idea that they increase planting on native land as a major way to create jobs. Unfortunately the native land regained through settlements has been allowed to return to it’s old state of neglect. Plus there seems to be problems in finding any workers even in the far north region that so often tops the unemployment stats.
    Jones was struggling to questions about where all the jobs claimed to have been created were and even more so with how many had been filled. He made much of 7000 quoted before had been pushed up to 9000 but sheepish about how many had been filled. Even his own people see him as just a big fat windbag struggling to know which orifice is emitting all his noise. While on the employment front it seems they will need another inquiry group to “Find Willie” who might be already struggling with another inquiry.
    
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    December 23, 2018 3:16pm
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      But Winston said he was going to use prisoners to plant the trees. That wasn’t another of his fairy tales, was it?
      
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      December 23, 2018 8:24pm
- septic skeptic
  
  They really do need to be called out on this shit. Imagine if National promised to deliver X billion in new benefits and then counted the X billion currently allocated. Job done.
  
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  December 23, 2018 11:42am
secondcumming

I asked a North Korean, “What’s life like in north Korea?”

He said, “I can’t complain”
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December 23, 2018 10:12am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  I told him that in Japan we had freedom of expression. I said that I could criticize the Prime Minister of Japan and not get arrested.
  
  “So what!” He replied. “I can criticize the Prime Minister of Japan and not get arrested either!”
  
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  December 23, 2018 10:37am
  - MCos
    
    The Miss Universe or World as held in Bangkok last week.
    A dress worn by Miss Thailand was designed by the daughter of the King and was criticised by aThai Youtube presenter who is now under investigation by the police because you can’t criticise anything connected with the royalty in Thailand.
    True story.
    You can read about it in the Daily Mail which loves that sort of thing.
    
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    December 23, 2018 5:40pm
secondcumming

How to piss off *Julian Assange* this Christmas……ask him,
“Have you tried turning it off and turning it on again?”

https://twitter.com/ReutersUS/status/1076439901586014208
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December 23, 2018 10:50am
- Morrissey
  
  Assange is a world wide hero. You’re posting stupid jokes on the internet.
  
  Have a nice Xmas, loser.
  
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  December 23, 2018 3:42pm
dave_c_

Have a happy and safe xmas period folks.
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December 23, 2018 10:52am
- Jack5
  
  Thank you, Dave, and the same to you. ?
  
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  December 23, 2018 11:00am
BananaLlama

A Romney X that doesn’t need shearing would be a very popular pill for most sheep farmers. I don’t think stuff commentators realise how badly the wool industry is doing these days. They seem to think that farmers should take money out of lamb sales to fund shearing costs as if that isn’t been done already. They will really start to moan when the price of lamb goes even higher as more move over to cattle.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/agribusiness/109296318/kiwi-shearing-industry-is-heading-for-a-crash-as-aus-beckons
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December 23, 2018 10:55am
Jack5

Yet another first-class post on Michael Reddell’s Croaking Cassandra blog …

This time about the lack of news coverage of New Zealand’s GCSB comment on the just revealed scandal of China’s massive international plunder of intellectual property.

The Chinese been stealing stuff left and right, using hackers to break into company and public computer systems around the world.

National will have to do something quickly about Beijing’s infiltration of the Auckland branches of the National Party, and about National’s list MP who once was an employee of the Chinese intelligence system.

Otherwise, Auckland-National’s China ties will blow up in National’s face just when Labour is about to go under at the next general election.

Michael Reddell’s coverage:

https://croakingcassandra.com/
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December 23, 2018 11:08am
- realityczech
  
  I read one about Israel doing the same. Can you find a link to that?
  
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  December 23, 2018 11:10am
  - Jack5
    
    Help! Someone please get the ❗kea❗ off my shoulder.
    
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    December 23, 2018 11:12am
    - realityczech
      
      Log a job with your Mossad mates. They are always slithering around NZ up to their evil tricks to undermine the gentiles.
      
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      December 23, 2018 12:38pm
      - EAD_THREE
        
        They’ve even accused little ol NZ of declaring war on them!
        
        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/28/netanyahu-told-new-zealand-backing-un-vote-would-be-declaration-of-war
        
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        December 24, 2018 12:04am
- secondcumming
  
  My father-in-law was saying, it’s interesting that when it comes to this country’s links with the Communist Chinese regime, both John Key and Andrew Little sing from the same songbook.
  
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  December 23, 2018 11:23am
  - Jack5
    
    Sadly, it seems Beijing may have been helping finance both of our main political parties.
    
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    December 23, 2018 11:25am
    - realityczech
      
      Our links to China? LOL 🙂
      
      Racist loons.
      
      https://www.timesofisrael.com/new-zealand-jewish-pm-wins-third-term/
      
      This guy was summonsed to (((New York))) and resigned just before this:
      
      https://www.smh.com.au/world/israel-warned-new-zealand-that-un-resolution-was-declaration-of-war-report-20161228-gtiogk.html
      
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      December 23, 2018 12:44pm
    - Paulus
      
      No !
      It is Russia who are circumventing our political system – like in the USA where no evidence against Trump for two years has yet arisen.
      
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      December 23, 2018 2:12pm
      - realityczech
        
        Yes. And before that Bush rigged the election. 🙂
        
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        December 23, 2018 3:44pm
DigNap15

What is the penalty for importing single use plastic bags?
Will I get Name Supression?
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December 23, 2018 11:10am
- Jack5
  
  You may well be deported and your NZ home and car(s) confiscated. That is if you are white.
  
  The best thing would be to get a deep sun tan and practise a faux African accent. Tell the court you are a peace-loving Muslim with two cousin-wives and 18 kids (three of them with special, continuing health needs) to support, you are a high-level IT expert, and that you will be shot if you are sent home.
  
  You’ll not only get off, you’ll get free golf lessons. ?
  
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  December 23, 2018 11:16am
  - sooty
    
    Don’t forget the drug importing and supplying to Labours top members!
    
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    December 23, 2018 1:07pm
  - Tall Man
    
    I bags the cat.
    
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    December 23, 2018 2:38pm
Longknives

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/109556526/jonathan-milne-mad-bad-though-certainly-not-poor-czech-drug-smuggler-found-his-own-saintly-benefactor

Ha Ha Certainly didn’t take long for Stuff to close comments on this one!
Enjoy them now before they disappear quicker than a Richie Hardcore text message….
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December 23, 2018 11:21am
- Tall Man
  
  “stuff”…the peoples news hub….vomit.
  
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  December 23, 2018 2:40pm
Morrissey

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Let Us Pray That Hell Exists

Because if there is, this woman is going there…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAN6fnV_Itk
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December 23, 2018 11:34am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Someone poked the moron.
  
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  December 23, 2018 11:55am
  - Morrissey
    
    I just reported it, Cap’n. It was that young student that “poked the moron”—and she did NOT appreciate it.
    
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    December 23, 2018 3:37pm
- Awww C-mon
  
  Fuck Off.
  
  Window licker.
  
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  December 23, 2018 12:35pm
- realityczech
  
  I wish. And for that hideous war monger Obama.
  
  There are some good black people in US politics and yet these sadistic vermin are the ones who made it to the top.
  
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  December 23, 2018 12:47pm
- Tall Man
  
  Hopefully she finds you there.
  
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  December 23, 2018 2:40pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Oooooooohhhhh! GOOD one, All Man.
    
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    December 23, 2018 3:44pm
- stephieboy
  
  A comment from your link,
  
  “Rice is a war criminal and an accessory to murder on 9/11/01”
  
  Utter Garbage!
  
  You ought to be ashamed of yourself!
  
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  December 23, 2018 4:20pm
Southern Raider

OMG

Stuff has an “Auckland diversity issues” reporter

Latest story is on a Chinese kiwi young woman whose dad was a refugee from Mao and her kiwi mum died when she was young. But apparently because her family was supportive and she got an education she is “privileged”

You can’t make this shit up. If this woman is privileged there is no fucken hope for us white males
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December 23, 2018 11:47am
- The Heat
  
  They also have a “AUCKLAND MILLENNIAL ISSUES REPORTER “
  
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  December 23, 2018 12:16pm
- realityczech
  
  Southern, what is your solution to the Chinese question?
  
  They are taking over the world you know ❗
  
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  December 23, 2018 12:49pm
  - Southern Raider
    
    What the hell did that have to do with what I posted?
    
    Not everything is about race and Jews
    
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    December 23, 2018 1:07pm
    - realityczech
      
      You rant on here all day about; Muslims, Maori, Chinese etc.
      
      Just wondering what your solution is?
      
      I never mentioned Jews.
      
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      December 23, 2018 1:09pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Some people won’t discriminate between “privileged” and “ordinary family upbringing.”
  
  This implies that an “ordinary family upbringing” is somehow out of the ordinary.
  
  Clearly something is amiss in society. Maybe the people who make most of the noise are not the ones who create jobs or bring children into this world. In other words, the empty vessels make the most noise.
  
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  December 23, 2018 12:56pm
- Morrissey
  
  How about Len “Downtown” Brown? He was heavily into ethnic diversity.
  
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  December 23, 2018 3:38pm
DigNap15

What next?
A transgender Issues Reporter?
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December 23, 2018 12:03pm
dcrown

Democrats and the rest of the Deep State are attempting to tank the stock market with this manufactured shutdown crisis.
Then they’ll blame it all on the Republicans, just watch.
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December 23, 2018 12:22pm
- Ross12
  
  The Fed’s rate hikes and “messaging” is doing most of the damage.
  
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  December 23, 2018 3:36pm
The Heat

There appears to be a long-standing vacancy for a “Issues Important To New Zealanders” reporter.
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December 23, 2018 12:23pm
- Nermal
  
  And for a “News reporter”
  
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  December 23, 2018 2:50pm
RF

At the BBQ I attended yesterday several people whilst discussing the commie chick used the term “huckmole”.

Just looked up the meaning… a term used to describe a woman who you find mentally physically and sexually repulsive.

I can live with that….. huckmole or huckery mole
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December 23, 2018 12:31pm
- realityczech
  
  You’ve tapped worse.
  
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  December 23, 2018 12:51pm
  - stigie
    
    We probably all have to be fair..?
    
    I mean, look what Stiffy’s into these days !~
    
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    December 23, 2018 1:05pm
    - Longknives
      
      “We probably all have to be fair..?”
      
      Ye Gods- No way!
      I’m no Brad Pitt but Christ I have higher standards than that dreadful looking creature…
      *It always amuses me that Clarke Gayford is perennially bragging about what a ‘ladies man’ he is..
      
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      December 23, 2018 2:39pm
      - Nermal
        
        He was talking quantity, not quality
        
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        December 23, 2018 2:51pm
      - realityczech
        
        Just look at the airbrushed/CGI photos then. They even made the Klarken resemble a human.
        
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        December 23, 2018 2:53pm
      - starboard
        
        errrr…almost. She still has a face like a dropped pie.
        
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        December 23, 2018 5:42pm
- Morrissey
  
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  RF, if a woman like Jacinda had ever deigned to look at you in your miserable life, you would not be posting such miserable and hateful messages on the internet.
  
  Loser you are. Really and truly.
  
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  December 23, 2018 3:40pm
  - realityczech
    
    Mozzie, clearly brains are not high on your list of feminine attributes.
    
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    December 23, 2018 3:43pm
  - Longknives
    
    For real Morrissey?
    Seriously mate- She looks like a horse! And not even a showpony- A skinny old bag of bones headed for the knackers yard…
    
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    December 23, 2018 3:53pm
    - realityczech
      
      Given her age, recent baby, and her drug problem, she is not too bad.
      
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      December 23, 2018 4:01pm
    - Morrissey
      
      I myself am more of a Jessica Alba man.
      
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      December 23, 2018 4:02pm
      - realityczech
        
        You’re not a “man” Mozzie, stop being silly and eat your soy.
        
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        December 23, 2018 4:09pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Good Lord, Surreality—that was COLD.
        
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        December 23, 2018 4:32pm
      - starboard
        
        ppfftt.. Jessica Alba. So you are bi ?
        We know you prefer the sausage mostly, morris.
        
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        December 23, 2018 5:40pm
Don the Kiwi

At this time of year, we do get some most unlikely alliances. 😉
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaBB0nmBpnM
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December 23, 2018 12:36pm
Sofia

In September 2016, New Zealand, along with all other United Nation Member States, committed to develop the Migration Compact.

Committing to develop a Compact is a long way from voting for the final form.

Peters is reported as saying (about National) ‘they initially signed up to the deal back in 2016’. That’s clearly misinformation. It is nonsense to claim New Zealand signed up to a Compact before negotiations had begun.

Since this move on immigration seems adverse to Winston’s earlier positions on immigration, the question remains –
What has Winston horse-traded for this immigration compliance?
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December 23, 2018 12:40pm
- Komata
  
  Sofia
  
  A knighthood perhaps?
  
  While it would be in keeping with his vanity the honorific can be written in two different ways and have two entirely seperate meanings; one good, one not so…
  
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  December 23, 2018 1:06pm
- Paulus
  
  His New Years Knighthood and early retirement to New York as some sort of Ambassador.
  With a blank chequebook of course.
  
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  December 23, 2018 2:15pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Would explain his billion dollar spend up on diplomats earlier this year. Winston First!
    
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    December 23, 2018 4:40pm
dcrown

The walls are closing in on poor George Soros.
Hopefully he gets extradited to France or Hungary where he is a wanted man.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/12/democrat-financier-george-soros-found-guilty-in-france-for-insider-training/
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December 23, 2018 12:58pm
- Nickc2
  
  Bugger, who is going pay for migration caravans now? Crooked Hillary and Co. will need to find a new benefactor.
  
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  December 23, 2018 2:31pm
- stephieboy
  
  dcrown, Soros wanted for what?
  
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  December 23, 2018 4:18pm
  - dcrown
    
    Tampering in democratic elections, simple.
    
    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/12/22/hungary-ft-soros-enemy-democracy-not-person-year/
    
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    December 23, 2018 4:22pm
    - stephieboy
      
      dcrown, rigging elections by voting machines?
      
      Crap!
      
      https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/oct/31/sean-duffy/wisconsin-congressman-fuels-soros-voting-machine-r/
      
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      December 23, 2018 4:34pm
      - dcrown
        
        What does that have to do with Soros illegally pumping millions of foreign money into Hungary with the objective of interferring in a democratic election?
        
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        December 23, 2018 5:33pm
Gulag1917

Increase in farm accidents = more rules and regulations and less common sense.
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December 23, 2018 2:06pm
- Nickc2
  
  More work for Traffic Management companies? Yep, there will be a requirement to provide at least 2 trucks placing traffic control cones, stop/go paddle operators with associated intercom systems and a St. John Ambulance leading each and every farm bike through each farm. Julie Anne Genter will have a field day with this one. Oh, I forgot: traffic impact barriers will be required be become permanent feature of all farm trails/tracks. All ACC levies will be increased to cater for the newly invented/perceived problem.
  
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  December 23, 2018 2:41pm
  - Tall Man
    
    $800 plus per hour to mow the verges on the side of the motorways due to excessive H & S requirements
    
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    December 23, 2018 8:23pm
The Heat

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12180092

There is a massive undercurrent, just below the surface, that the left-wing politicians and their repeaters don’t appear to see. One wonders when it will surge and break the surface?

At that point, the left are in for a very rough ride.
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December 23, 2018 2:40pm
MH

yellow vespers anyone?
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December 23, 2018 3:14pm
- Tall Man
  
  Vespas like the scooter or vespers like the church?
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:21pm
Johnboy

Now here we go!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/109568493/holiday-congestion-hits-wellington-again-with-significant-delays-on-sh1

I thought a government with forward vision would have made the Kapiti Expressway three lanes each way with median barriers on each side of a central lane (for emergency services vehicles) just in case it was needed! 🙂
The three lanes each way would have enabled the zipless convergence of TransGully and the current cart track!
Call me a fukwit if you like but prove me wrong if you can! 🙂
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December 23, 2018 3:26pm
- Inandout
  
  Well johnboy, a three way coalition should have naturally chosen a three lane highway. Which brings me back to the question; do the CoL tug in different directions?
  
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  December 23, 2018 4:10pm
  - Tall Man
    
    I’m not sure how they “tug” and I don’t think I want to either 😉
    
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    December 23, 2018 8:14pm
- Manolo
  
  You can bet your house that Green Party ministers and officials are very happy pissing motorists off.
  
  They do hate cars with a passion from the comfort of their Crown limousines.
  
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  December 23, 2018 5:22pm
  - sooty
    
    Wonder they did not ring up for helicoptors to go to their holiday homes.
    
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    December 23, 2018 5:31pm
    - Tall Man
      
      They do use the services of the private helicopter base at Rongotai. We pay though.
      
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      December 23, 2018 8:17pm
- DigNap15
  
  No I call Genter and Twyford the fuckwits and the people that design this shit!
  
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  December 23, 2018 7:49pm
stephieboy

The Heat, it can only mean one thing

“The expropriation of the means of production and exchange and confiscation without compensation.”

Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov aka Lenin!
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December 23, 2018 4:12pm
- Inandout
  
  30% of Lenin’s body is plasticised, and even his face and hands have been remodelled. A bit like communism really, false in the extreme.
  
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  December 23, 2018 4:31pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Inandout, rather like many of KB’s alt rabid right posters!
    
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    December 23, 2018 4:39pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Stephieboy:
      
      KB’s alt rabid right posters
      
      No no no. Don’t waste your time (and ours) confirming that you’re the village idiot. Tell us about your big day!
      
      Micah 5:2-5a; Luke 1:46b-55 or Psalm 80:1-7; Hebrews 10:5-10; Luke 1:39-45, (46-55)
      
      Did you pop into the Yoga Pantry afterwards and let off some steam?
      
      The Yoga Pantry is located in the heart of Dominion road in Mount Eden Auckland, and is nestled happily in the basement of the St Albans Church … Our classes are fun and lively and consist of a mix of breathing, meditation, stretching, strengthening and all the other juicy postures you’ll find in a good yoga class.
      
      Yes, the church basement might be a bit dusty because you haven’t pushed a broom around recently, but just imagine: lots of young girls wearing tight-fitting yoga outfits and getting themselves into “juicy postures” – your stairway to heaven!
      
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      December 23, 2018 4:42pm
      - nasska
        
        Or some “juicy postures” which inspire him to shag his goat until it passes out! 🙂
        
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        December 23, 2018 5:10pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Down dog would have a whole new meaning, I’m not even going to think of up dog.
        Warrior pose would be a fail
        Sun Salutations?
        
        Poor stephie-perv
        
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        December 23, 2018 5:22pm
      - KevOB
        
        What’s a Christian Church doing with the Yoga Pantry in its basement?
        
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        December 23, 2018 5:43pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        KevOB:
        
        What’s a Christian Church doing with the Yoga Pantry in its basement?
        
        Good question.
        
        Google has a possible answer: church + basement + sexual abuse = About 6,000,000 results (0.51 seconds).
        
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        December 23, 2018 5:48pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Hey steffy girl.
      
      No friends for Christmas eh?
      
      Know why?
      
      You’re a useless arsehole 😉
      
      and
      
      ardern is a liar
      
      and
      
      even she wouldn’t like you.
      
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      December 23, 2018 8:09pm
Ross12

Washington Post
“Trumps surprise Syria pullout is a giant Christmas gift to our enemies.”

December 19th 2018

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Washington Post
“Trump can’t do anything right – We don’t need troops in Syria.”

April 19th 2018

To think some people still think the WP is worth taking note of.
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December 23, 2018 4:29pm
- stephieboy
  
  Ross 12, WP link please so it can be checked if you just made it all u?
  
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  December 23, 2018 6:31pm
  - Ross12
    
    Do your own research you lazy sod.
    
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    December 23, 2018 7:10pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Ross12, code for faking it!
      
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      December 23, 2018 9:24pm
secondcumming

*RANDOM IMPERTINENT QUESTION*

Could one be forgiven for thinking this sort of illegal behaviour is more prevalent among *Indian and Chinese Real Estate Agents* here in New Zealand?

https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1076654610419453952
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December 23, 2018 4:46pm
- wiseowl
  
  There shouldn’t be any Chinese or Indian Realestate agents .
  
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  December 23, 2018 5:13pm
  - realityczech
    
    “There shouldn’t be any Chinese or Indian Realestate agents .”
    
    How about Jew bankers?
    
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    December 23, 2018 5:18pm
    - stephieboy
      
      rc. what about Jew Bankers?
      
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      December 23, 2018 6:28pm
      - DigNap15
        
        Jew bankers are OK.
        How have they hurt anyone?
        
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        December 23, 2018 7:03pm
    - DigNap15
      
      There shouln’t be any Indians in NZ full stop.
      They bring their dirty filthy habits and corruption with them. Plus their attitude to women, their and ours.
      
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      December 23, 2018 7:02pm
Swifty

I’m back in action KBers – what have I missed?
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December 23, 2018 5:18pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Swifty:
  
  Welcome back mate. You haven’t missed much. Notsofast comes and goes in a blink of an eye. Morrissey posted a gropers update, apparently, but it didn’t stay up for long and I didn’t see it. Hugh continues to be Hugh. We’ve had Muttonbird pop in and tell us what a good job Labour is doing – despite all evidence to the contrary. And Stephieboy is still the undisputed resident pervert.
  
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  December 23, 2018 5:21pm
  - Manolo
    
    I seek urgent clarification: Is our resident Muslim the pervert he is purported to be? ?
    
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    December 23, 2018 5:29pm
  - Swifty
    
    Thanks Nostra.
    
    A good summary – sounds like I haven’t missed much. They’re all like stuck records aren’t they?
    
    I’ve had a rather eventful week. Excellent care received from Auckland Hospital’s Coronary Care Unit.
    
    I blame my latest squeeze – Sally-Jane Rottencrotch.
    
    She broke my heart! 🙂
    
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    December 23, 2018 6:30pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Nostradamus, typically degenerating into the usual banal, worn out and utterly tedious of absolutely no interest to anyone outside your vacuous bubblehead!
    
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    December 23, 2018 6:41pm
    - Swifty
      
      I found it most interesting and enlightening, I’ll thank you.
      
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      December 23, 2018 6:45pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Pervert Caught Trying to Grab Girls’ Private Parts in Shopping Mall’s Parking Lot
      
      Recently this girl who was shopping in AEON Cheras Selatan shared her experience on Facebook about a pervert that she encountered in the parking lot.
      
      “Today, I went to the AEON in Balakong but then I realised I had forgotten to take my bag in the car. So I went back to the car to take it when I noticed a guy acting suspiciously and following me. So, I stopped and asked him, ‘What do you want?’ That’s when he ran forward and grabbed my butt. Shocked, I quickly ran away while screaming for help and called my boyfriend to come and rescue me. I thought I had lost him but when I looked behind the pervert was standing behind me and he wanted to carry me but could not do so.”
      …
      They proceeded to informed the mall’s security guards and lodged a police report. The police managed to apprehend the man after he was seen to be still lurking around the parking lot. Probably still looking for the next victim!
      
      “PERVERTS” is researched and presented by ShoppingMallWatch (a division of Stephieboy Productions).
      
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      December 23, 2018 6:52pm
    - Komata
      
      Hey folks
      
      SB has found a dictionary and now knows some new words!!
      
      He’s practicing using them.
      
      Isn’t he just SOOOOOO clever??
      
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      December 23, 2018 6:55pm
    - Tall Man
      
      ardern is a liar
      
      steffy is a girl
      
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      December 23, 2018 8:05pm
- nasska
  
  …..”what have I missed?”…..
  
  Stephieboy’s continuing decline into madness! 🙂
  
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  December 23, 2018 5:21pm
  - Swifty
    
    Utterly predictable.
    
    That boy’s a lost cause.
    
    Mind you, that applies to all those Nostra mentioned.
    
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    December 23, 2018 6:32pm
- Awww C-mon
  
  Some humour, some debate.
  
  Plus a perv and a window licker but the lads mentioned all that.
  
  Jethro is off the leash, Cindy is on the prowl and Winston is on wane.
  
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  December 23, 2018 5:24pm
- waikatogirl
  
  Hope you are well Swifty after your recent health scare. Christmas will be all the sweeter this year!
  Welcome back. ?
  
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  December 23, 2018 7:21pm
  - Swifty
    
    Improving daily thanks waikatogirl.
    
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    December 23, 2018 7:59pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Swifty:
      
      My father was hospitalised earlier this year after having a heart attack. Like you, he had nothing bad to say about the medical care he received. And, like you I suspect, the pathway to recovery seems long, but one step at a time will get you there. I hope you take the time out over the festive season to take stock – we need you back here next year to keep us honest!
      
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      December 23, 2018 8:06pm
      - Swifty
        
        Thanks very much for this Nostra.
        
        Yes, a few lifestyle changes now required – key amongst them will be to stop pushing myself so hard.
        
        It’s come at a good time (!) in that I’ve just completed a tough six month contract in late Nov so I’m not letting any clients down by taking an extra few weeks off to recuperate. I’ll sit out Jan and see how things are then.
        
        I must say I’m looking forward to the next few weeks doing a few low key things with the kids – in addition to building up my fitness levels in the garden and up and down beaches etc.
        
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        December 23, 2018 8:17pm
- EAD_THREE
  
  Welcome back Swift – that makes two of us back in the ring!
  
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  December 24, 2018 12:07am
Nostradamus

Tom Hunter on 3 September 2018:

No worries on Kimbo. Met up with him for a beer or three a few weeks ago and he’s in good shape. Still many tests to conduct but it looks good and he looked healthy. … [H]e asked me to drop a line to KB to say that he’s okay. But commentating is taking a backseat to his work for a while.

Tom or Kimbo, if you’re reading this, could we please have an update? A bit of Christmas cheer, to go with Swifty’s return to Kiwiblog, would be much appreciated!
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December 23, 2018 6:35pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
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  December 23, 2018 7:13pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    DPF, it would be good if you restored the delete function.
    cheers, The Captain
    
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    December 23, 2018 7:17pm
starboard

Merry Christmas to all..Enjoy!

https://youtu.be/a2VLywIEkfU
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December 23, 2018 7:16pm
- nasska
  
  Are they all pre-op? 🙂
  
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  December 23, 2018 7:29pm
  - starboard
    
    Im sure ones post op..see if you can pick , near the beginning.
    
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    December 23, 2018 7:31pm
- waikatogirl
  
  starboard, my hubby says thanks for the cute Xmas carol…
  That’s enough excitement for him for the rest of the year! ?
  
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  December 23, 2018 7:38pm
  - starboard
    
    My pleasure. Aren’t they darlings. Gawd I love this place.
    
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    December 23, 2018 8:59pm
nasska

Latest news: Jacinda Ardern visits kindergarten!

Latest news: Jacinda Ardhern attends Parliament!

Latest news: Jacinda Ardhern has a shit!

Latest news: Jacinda Ardhern gives birth!

Latest news: Jacinda Ardhern goes to sleep!

Fuck me, I wish I had the years of training & talent to be a journalist……they’re worth every penny they’re paid.
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December 23, 2018 7:28pm
- realityczech
  
  You forgot to mention the wretched spoor of the cursed union.
  
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  December 23, 2018 7:49pm
  - nasska
    
    Yeah, but it’s not Squirrel’s fault she was conceived or born.
    
    In any case her wretched parents provide ample targets for ridicule.
    
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    December 23, 2018 7:55pm
    - realityczech
      
      Not buying it. The spoor is an abomination born of sin and darkness.
      
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      December 23, 2018 7:57pm
RF

I always thought a hoe was something you used to attack weeds in your garden.

There is another meaning so I wish our hoe hoe PM a merry Xmas.

May her chickens turn into emus and kick her fowl house to bits.
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December 23, 2018 7:46pm
Nostradamus

Public service announcement for Stephieboy: Definitive guide to the growing list of celebrities who say they’re sex addicts.

[R]ecent research suggests a lot of sex addiction is complex and exists on a spectrum, with many sufferers acting out their desires solely with their partners, while some feel the need to cheat, and others are plagued by intrusive sexual thoughts.

And the celebrity sex addicts listed in the article: Robbie Williams; Tiger Woods; Kanye West; David Duckovny; Russell Brand; Scott Disick; Rob Lowe.

Maybe you could give one of them a call and ask for advice?
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December 23, 2018 8:02pm
- realityczech
  
  How like the left to pathologise normal sexual desire between a man and a woman, then specifically target couples.
  
  But no problem with gay party boys getting reamed out by a dozen guys while snorting poppers all night.
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:07pm
- Awww C-mon
  
  Not sure if pointing Stephie-perv towards celebrities is a sound decision Nostra.
  
  I’d hate for him to start chasing down sports stars, namely Tom Brady, who is recognised as the GOAT.
  
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  December 23, 2018 8:12pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Well, I’m happy for him to be diverted away from my undergarments.
    
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    December 23, 2018 8:30pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Maggy:
      
      I’ve organised a whip-round and (as a Kiwiblog present for you) a few of us have bought a gift for Stephieboy: I Am Goat 2019 Wall Calendar.
      
      Consider the goat — that clever, agile mischief-maker. This wall calendar puts goats in the spotlight as photographer Kevin Horan presents them in a unique and compelling way.
      …
      12″ x 12″ wall calendar (12″ x 24″ open).
      The perfect gift for the goat lover.
      A year of elegant and unique goat portraits on your wall.
      …
      Goats just seem to know something we don’t, and that’s precisely what the artist conveys with his Chattel series, which he says engages our own feelings about the souls within other beings, human or otherwise. Month to month, the I Am Goat wall calendar will keep you company in a most quizzical way, and possibly make you question what it means to be human.
      
      Stephieboy will be too distracted with his goat calendar to sexually harass you!
      
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      December 23, 2018 8:54pm
      - nasska
        
        Have mercy! He’ll flog himself blind. 🙂
        
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        December 23, 2018 9:01pm
      - Swifty
        
        Quite the step up from his subscription to Goat Fanciers Monthly.
        
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        December 23, 2018 9:04pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        as a Kiwiblog present for you
        
        Oh, how exciting!…
        A pressie… Yaaaaaay!!!!!
        
        And what’s more, it promises to be a first in psychobabbledom.
        
        Imagine curing someone’s knickerphilia with a pile of capraphilia.
        
        I bet ~~Kea~~ realityczech can’t wait to submit a paper on our subject to Deviant Behaviour.
        https://www.tandfonline.com/loi/udbh20?open=39&year=2018&repitition=0#vol_39_2018
        
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        December 23, 2018 9:26pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Maggy:
        
        There’s something for everyone in that publication:
        
        For Stephieboy:
        – White Racial Activism and Paper Terrorism: A Case Study in Far-Right Propaganda
        – Risky Business: Harlem Pimps’ Work Decisions and Economic Returns
        – Racial differences in sexual activity among affluent adolescents: a relative status approach
        – Sex Offender Height and Pedophilic Interest: A Clarification
        
        For the Kahui family:
        – Exploring the Relationship between Effective Parenting, Self-Control, and Adherence to the Police Code of Silence
        
        For Nasska:
        – For HE Tells Me So: Techniques of Neutralization Applied to Christian Domestic Discipline
        
        For Shane Jones (given his interest in fishing industry issues):
        – Economic Crisis and Poaching: Advice on Anti-Poaching Management from The Galician Shellfish Sector
        
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        December 23, 2018 9:40pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @Nostradamus
        There’s something for everyone in that publication:
        
        Yes,
        who knew there were so many deviants and so many ways to be deviant?
        I fear I have lived a very sheltered existence.
        
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        December 23, 2018 9:55pm

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