MPs salaries

Friday, December 2nd, 2011 at 9:00 am

Derek Cheng at NZ Herald reports:

Twenty-five new members of Parliament will pick up a pay packet of at least $141,800 – a huge pay rise for some of the newcomers.

It is not a universal rule, but for those from the centre-left an MPs pay packet is the highest salary they have ever had in their lives. While for many from the centre-right, it is a considerable drop in income.

Here’s what the salaries will be for the various MPs.

  • PM – $411,500
  • Deputy PM – $291,800
  • Cabinet Ministers – $257,800
  • Speaker – $257,800
  • Leader of the Opposition – $257,800
  • Ministers outside Cabinet – $217,200
  • Government Chief Whip – $192,370
  • Members of Executive Council not a full Minister – $189,000
  • Labour Deputy Leader – $184,790
  • Labour Senior Whip – $183,940
  • Deputy Speaker – $181,200
  • Green Party Leader – $174,790
  • NZ First Party Leader – $168,640
  • Under-Secretaries $168,600
  • Green Whip – $164,310
  • Maori Party Leader – $161,250
  • NZ First Whip – $158,160
  • Mana Party Leader – $157,550
  • Assistant Speakers – $155,700
  • National and Labour Junior Whips – $155,700
  • Select Committee Chairs – $155,700
  • Select Committee Deputy Chairs – $146,200
  • Member of Parliament – $141,800

If a leadership position is shared, my understanding is that the difference between the Leader’s salary and a normal MPs salary is shared between them – they don’t both get the full leader salary.

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KiwiSaver v Parliamentary Super

Friday, May 13th, 2011 at 7:50 am

Vernon Small reports in Stuff:

MPs’ generous superannuation schemes will not be cut, despite Government plans to slash the subsidies paid to KiwiSaver accounts. …

Since 1992, MPs have been entitled to a subsidy of up to 20 per cent of their salary, receiving $2.50 for every dollar they put in. Those elected before 1992 receive a subsidy equal to 23 per cent of their gross salary.

Asked why taxpayers should subsidise MPs up to 20 per cent when he was winding back KiwiSaver subsidies, Mr English said they were different schemes.

“The MPs’ scheme has been wound down over the last 20 years to something that is pretty similar to what everyone has available to them. In fact, I think a number of MPs are probably members of KiwiSaver.”

There is a vital fact missing from this article. The Remuneration Authority operates on a “total remuneration” basis and the value of that 20% superannuation subsidy is effectively deducted from their salary. If the subsidy increases 5%, then their salary drops around 5%. If the subsidy is decreased, then the salary increases.

Personally I would just pay MPs the full remuneration for their jobs (which would see their pay increase 20%) and leave it up to them to decide whether they put some of it into a savings scheme or not.

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MPs pay should be constant for the term

Monday, December 27th, 2010 at 3:00 pm

Kate Chapman at the Dom Post reports:

Prime Minister John Key urged restraint over the setting of politicians’ pay this year but most MPs seem resigned to the boost in their salaries which, they are quick to point out, was decided independently.

Mr Key was consulted by the Remuneration Authority – the independent body that sets politicians’ pay – and said given the circumstances restraint should be shown.

“He argued there should be a nil increase for MPs, or if there was any increase, it should be in the band of other public-sector pay settlements,” a spokesman for Mr Key said.

The authority decided on a 1.4 per cent rise backdated to July and a one-off payment of $2000 to cover the decreased use of MPs’ travel subsidy. The rise boosts Mr Key’s salary to $400,500 and a backbencher’s to $134,800.

Every year the MPs go through a self-flaggelation when the Remuneration Authority does their annual pay adjustment for MPs. It is either too much, or it is at the wrong time, or it is backdated etc etc.

This will always be the case, as MPs getting pay rises during  term of Parliament never will be popular.

The easy way to solve this, is what I have long advocated - set the salary and associated terms around three months before each election, for the next term of Parliament.

So MPs would get elected to Parliament for a term, on a known salary which remains constant during that term.

This might not have been possible in the days of high inflation, but one could do it easily and the adjustment from term to term would still be a fairly modest single digit percentage.

You don’t even need to change the law to do this. The Remuneration Authority Act says that the maximum gap between adjustments is three years, so it would just take the leadership in Parliament to ask the Authority to move to setting MPs salaries as constant for each term of Parliament.

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MPs pay 2010

Friday, December 24th, 2010 at 7:42 am

The Remuneration Authority has heeded the PM’s advice, and has not done a massive pay rise to compensate for loss of the international travel perk.

The perk had been valued at over $9,000 and this value was deducted from MPs remuneration to get their base salary. However the compensation has been set at only $2,000 – recognising that not all MPs were using the perk. This should mean the abolition leads to a net saving for taxpayers. There is a warning that this may just be an interim adjustment until they get advice from IRD on what the value of the travel entitlement was deemed to be.

The general wage incraese is 1.4%, which is at the lower end of the public sector. Also worth noting that there was no increase at all last year.

So the new salaries are:

  1. PM $400,500
  2. DPM $282,500
  3. Cabinet Ministers, Speaker and Oppn Leader $249,100
  4. Ministers outside Cabinet $209,100
  5. Chief Government Whip $184,640
  6. Deputy Leader Labour $180,420
  7. Labour Senior Whip $179,600
  8. Deputy Speaker $174,200
  9. Green Party Leader $161,230
  10. Green Whip $152,130
  11. Assistant Speakers  & Select Committee Chairs $148,500
  12. ACT Whip, Maori Whip, Nat Junior Whip, Lab Junior Whip $148,500
  13. Progressive Party Leader $148,500
  14. Select Committee Deputy Chairs $139,100
  15. Other MPs $134,800
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Law Commission on Parliamentary Salaries and Perks

Tuesday, December 7th, 2010 at 1:28 pm

The Law Commission has published its review of the Civil List Act 1979, which sets out MPs salaries and expenses. They recommend:

  • Travel, accommodation, attendance and communications services for members of Parliament and members of the Executive should be determined by an independent body – an enhanced Remuneration Authority which includes a former MP and a person with appropriate skills and
    experience in the administration of Parliament
  • The RA should also determine entitlements to funding and services to support parties’ and members’ parliamentary operations
  • The Official Information Act 1982 should be extended to cover information held
    by the Speaker in his role with ministerial responsibilities for Parliamentary
    Service and the Office of the Clerk; the Parliamentary Service; the Parliamentary
    Service Commission; and the Office of the Clerk in its departmental holdings
  • The OIA should not apply to information held by members in their capacity as members of Parliament, information relating to the development of parliamentary party policies,  and party organisational material, including media advice and polling information.
  • Unauthorised absences of greater than nine days should result in 0.2% of annual salary being deducted a day. That is around $250 a day, up from $10.

Overall this looks very good. I’ve long supported the OIA applying to the financial aspects of Parliamentary Service, but have not supported full inclusion, where someone like me (for example) could send in an OIA asking for all e-mails between Phil Goff and his press secretaries. No parliamentary party could operate with its internal e-mails being made available to the media and other parties.

So I think the Law Commission have done a good job on the OIA side, as their proposals hopefully stand a good chance of being adopted.

The handing over of perks, expenses and parliamentary party funding to an independent body is also an idea whose time has come. Having a former MP and someone with parliamentary administration experience on the Remuneration Authority should mean that its decisions will be made on practical experience, not textbook theory.

I hope the Government, and indeed all parties, support the report. There may be some fine-tuning to be done, but the principles look good to me.

UPDATE: Yay the PM has just announced that the Government has accepted in principle the recommendation to have MPs and Ministers expenses set by an independent body. By the end of this term of Parliament, things will be hugely more transparent and accountable compared to 2008 and before.

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What will happen to MPs salaries?

Tuesday, November 16th, 2010 at 9:00 am

The Herald reports:

An increase to MPs’ salaries is almost inevitable if the Prime Minister’s bid to get rid of their foreign-travel perks is successful.

It is. As people now all know (and something I was the first to highlight over a year ago as it was obscurely buried in the Remuneration Authority’s 2003 determination, and had not been explicitly listed since) the value of the perk (as calculated by IRD) is deducted from their salary effectively.

If the Speaker just abolished it unilaterally, then MPs would have their base salary increase by $9,500 by the Remuneration Authority.

Although the demise of the perk seems certain, the taxpayer is likely to have to make up for it by an increase in MPs’ salaries.

Mr Key said he expected any rise to be “very modest” and putting salaries up by the full $9800 value of the perk was “unacceptable to me”. A significant increase would only expose MPs to more criticism, even though they had no say in their pay, he said.

Mr Key has urged the Speaker to ask the Remuneration Authority to decide how to abolish the perk and whether changes should be made to salaries as a result.

This is where the PM has been quite cunning. He is basically asking the Remuneration Authority to say in advance how much they would increase salaries, if the perk is abolished – with a rather unsubtle note that an increase to the full value is “unacceptable”.

So the Remuneration Authority now has to decide what to do, which is challenging as the most logical would just be to stop deducting the $9,800 from the base salary.

Annual totals for international travel perks for existing MPs:

1992-93 – $263,567
1995-96 – $387,950
2008-09 – $600,000
2009-10 – $432,989

Here’s what I would do. Divide $433,000 by 120 MPs and that is $3,500 per MP. Add that to the base salary and you can claim the exercise is revenue neutral. It’s not the principled way to do it (that would be the $9,800 option) but it is a pragmatic solution.

Labour leader Phil Goff agreed with Mr Key’s request for the perk to be reviewed independently, but said it was essential to retain some entitlement to international travel to allow MPs to go overseas on parliamentary business.

He had used his rebate for his recent trip to Australia to meet Prime Minister Julia Gillard and senior Cabinet ministers. “That enables me to do my job properly and is a legitimate use. Trying to justify the use of it for holidays will never be regarded by the public as a legitimate use.” …

Act leader Rodney Hide said he agreed with the Prime Minister that the perk should go and although it was for the Remuneration Authority to decide on salary increases in lieu of the perk, “you’d hope they’d be a wee bit judicious”.

He disputed Mr Goff’s call for some provision for work travel, saying there was already enough discretionary funding for it in party leaders’ budgets – a bulk sum they get to run their offices.

I’m actually more in agreement with Phil Goff on this point. I do think MPs should be able to travel internationally when it is work related. Many of the best policy ideas come from initiatives in other countries etc.

Now Rodney is right that such travel can be funded from the leader’s office budget. And that is where it should be funded from – rather than a separate dedicated fund. If you have a fund for travel – then people will make sure it gets fully used. If it comes from the bulk fund, then the leader (or their COS) has to decide whether the value of that travel is greater than the value they would get from spending it on more staff, or policy research, or a pamphlet etc etc.

But what I think Goff wants, and I agree with him, is a review of the level of funding for the Leader’s Office to ensure it is adequate to be able to fund legitimate work related international travel by MPs, now they can not use the perk to fund it.

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Key on travel perk

Monday, November 15th, 2010 at 10:00 am

Andrea Vance at Stuff reports:

MPs across the political spectrum are calling for their private travel perks to be scrapped after the resignation of Cabinet minister Pansy Wong.

Prime Minister John Key said yesterday there was “a time and a place” for looking at the travel perks.

Speaking from Japan, where he was attending the Apec summit, he said: “It’s possible there may need to be some change but today’s not the day to make those comments.

“It’s tripped up a number of MPs and that’s very unfortunate. It looks somewhat like a relic of the past but in the end that’s not solely my decision. That’s something we need to discuss [and] in due course we will.”

Raising MPs’ salary in place of the perks was contentious.

“It’s not so much getting rid of it, the question is would there be any salary adjustment.”

That sounds like a move towards scrapping it.

The issue though, is that it will mean an increase in the salaries for MPs, as the Remuneration Authority currently deducts it from the level at which it judges their remuneration should be, to set base salary.

This increase would basically be automatic – it would not be requested by MPs. You would probably have to change the law, to stop there being an increase if the travel perk is removed.

But that is what should happen. The international travel perk should go, as I have blogged previously. And MPs should get paid what the RA determines is appropriate.

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Dom Post on MPs perks

Tuesday, November 2nd, 2010 at 3:00 pm

The Dom Post has an editorial and a story on MPs perks today, and both rather over-state their case in my opinion.

The editorial is on transparency over the MPs travel perks. Now my position is actually the same as the Dom Post’s – that the perk should be abolished. But the editorial goes too far when it says:

Dr Smith argues that the subsidy, which cost $432,989 last year, is actually paid for by MPs collectively forgoing part of their salary entitlement.

It is an argument that bears a passing acquaintance with the facts. The Remuneration Authority takes account of the cost of the subsidy when setting MPs’ pay.

That is not a passing acquaintance with the facts. It is 100% correct, even if the Dom Post does not like it.

The travel subsidy, like many other MPs’ perks, was initially introduced in lieu of a pay rise. However, when responsibility for setting MPs’ pay was transferred from Parliament to the Remuneration Authority’s predecessor, the Higher Salaries Commission, it ignored many of the entitlements MPs had voted themselves.

It did – up until 2003. In 2003 the Remuneration Authority moved to a total remuneration calculation where it calculates what should be the total remuneration for an MP, and deducts off the super subsidy and the travel perks.

Hence MPs receive what an independent body thinks their jobs are worth plus the value of the extras they have voted themselves over the years

No this is absolutely wrong. The independent body works out what their jobs are worth and deducts the value of the extras off the remuneration to calculate a base salary.

extras that inflate the base salary of today’s MPs from $131,000 to more than $180,000.

Not quite. The Herald calculates it as:

  • Salary $131,000
  • Super Subsidy $26,200
  • Domestic Travel $1,176
  • Partner Travel $3,449
  • International Travel $9,646

That is around $170,000 as the value of an MPs remuneration package.

That gives even the meanest MP an income higher than 99 per cent of his fellow citizens. Whether it is too much is a matter of judgment, but it is not a matter of judgment that should be exercised by those who stand to benefit from it.

Eight years ago Parliament was advised to set up an independent body to determine MPs’ pay and entitlements, but when the legislation reached Parliament’s standing orders committee – a body every bit as powerful and self-interested as any trade union – it was gutted.

The ongoing furore over MPs’ travel expenses is the price MPs pay for refusing to surrender control of their pay and perks. It is a price successive Speakers have been happy to pay, but it is not one the public should tolerate.

MPs’ pay and perks should be set by an independent body that takes account of comparable pay rates here and overseas, the state of the economy and workloads.

I agree they should all be set by the Remuneration Authority, but I don’t think it would reduce the “furore” over pay and perks.

Now in this article we read:

Members of Parliament are secretly planning to change the rules around their $24,000-a-year accommodation allowance to make it easier for those who make Wellington their home to still be counted as out-of-towners.

Under the new rules, MPs will be able to nominate a “home base” where they normally live when not doing parliamentary business in Wellington. If that is outside Wellington, they will qualify for the accommodation allowance.

I have not got a copy of the new rules, but from what I can glean the change is around wording, not substance. The old rules referred to primary residence and the new rules refer to a “home base”. The Auditor-general herself said the term “primary residence” was not a useful one as the test has never been where an MP spends most of their time. If that was the test, then no Minister would ever be found to live outside Wellington.

One has to approach this from a principled approach, in relation to the fact the job of an MP requires them to live in Wellington some of the time, and when in Wellington they need to be have a place to live. The principle is that an MP should not be out of pocket for what is a work related expense, but neither should they gain from it.

If an MP, before they became an MP, resided outside of Wellington then their Wellington accommodation expenses get met (up to a limit) by the taxpayer. The exception to this is if the MP abandons their out of Wellington residence – either by selling it or renting it out. If they do that, then they are gaining at taxpayer expense.

The Auditor-General ruled (as did Speakers Hunt and Wilson) that Bill English was entitled to a Wellington accommodation allowance because he still maintained his Dipton property. If he had sold it or was leasing it out, then they would have found differently.

The one change I would make is I would bar MPs from having a direct or indirect interest in the Wellington accommodation they claim the allowance for. The Greens had their super scheme own several as a way to maximise income for themselves – and in fact were even claiming twice for the same property. Other MPs have owned the places they rented.

So the change in the rules is fine – the only potential for abuse is:

But one MP agreed yesterday that under the new definition it might be possible for an MP to maintain a small empty apartment out of Wellington and nominate it as a “home base”, when it would not have fitted within the definition of a primary residence as most people understood it.

In theory yes it is possible an Minister could move their family to Wellington, and sell their five bedroom house in the electorate and designate a small apartment as their home base. But there is always a way for venal people to rort the rules – and if any tried to do that, I would hope the media will expose that.

You could try and have a rule that an MP does not downgrade their home residence while they are an MP, but frankly it is unworkable – what if their kids move out of home etc.

So no problems with the change, but I do think it would be desirable to do a further change – to ban MPs from claiming the allowance for a property they have a direct or indirect interest in.

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MPs travel perks

Monday, November 1st, 2010 at 2:00 pm

It was reported last week that Lockwood Smith has decided not to include details of how much each MP has used of their “travel” perk, as it is discouraging MPs from using it – which is unfair as the value of the perk is deducted from their remuneration package in setting their salary.

Now Lockwood has identified the problem correctly, but in this rare instance I disagree with his solution.

It is unfair to be deducting the value of the perk from the salary, and to be having witch hunts against those who use it. But the solution is to abolish the travel perk and increase the salary – not to try and keep the details secret.

Lockwood and the PM have opened up the books greatly, and doing so is a one way street effectively. Even if the Parliamentary Service only now publish the total amount of travel perks used, the media will question each individual MP about whether they have used it, and so the end result will be the same.

The Herald quotes Rodney Hide saying much the same:

“Why don’t you just pay the MPs, don’t allow the rebate and cover their legitimate expenses?”

While the Green Party is looking at releasing their rebate details anyway, Hide could not speak on behalf of all his MPs on whether they would follow suit.

“I don’t think the speaker can put the genie back into the bottle, because people quite naturally expect transparency and accountability and it would be impossible to explain, in this day and age, that this rebate is being paid out of an MP’s salary, even though it is.”

I agree with Rodney that this is what should happen. There has been an argument that the travel perk should stay, because it is the only way to recognise more experienced MPs service. But I would say that if we wish to do that, then do it directly through salaries. There is no reason the Remuneration Authority can’t be asked to set a slightly higher salary for MPs who have served a certain number of years. some may argue against this also – my point is one should set the salary to cover all remuneration, and then just have legitimate expenses claimed.

Some MPs do use their travel perk for a mixture of work and play – such as travelling to meet colleagues in other countries. But that can be funded from the Leader’s Budget. If the argument is their budgets are not big enough to cover that, then lets debate that, rather than keep the travel perk which will never be accepted by the public – inevitably it will go the same way as the perk for ex MPs.

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Herald on MPs pays and perks

Monday, July 5th, 2010 at 1:00 pm

The Herald editorial:

In straitened economic times, the renegotiation of contracts routinely results in employees losing allowances or other benefits. Rarely is the base salary raised in compensation.

This starts with a false premise. The triennial review is not something done due to the recession. It happens every three years.

The Herald also makes another false premise – that people do not get compensated for losing allowances. Most senior employees are on a total remuneration package. So if for example you get a company car for private use, then your salary drops to keep the total package the same.

The authors of the review, Sir Doug Kidd, a former Speaker of the House, and economist Philip Barry, are certainly right to bring the boom down on these perks. No one has ever mounted a coherent explanation for them being necessary for an MP’s job.

I agree, which is why they are deducted from their total remuneration, to give MPs a lower salary than would otherwise be the cause.

In practice, they furnish a generously subsidised pursuit of pleasure. They were introduced by Cabinet, not an independent commission, supposedly as compensation for parliamentarians accepting lower salaries.

But the independent Remuneration Authority does deduct them from their salary package. It has done so since 2003.

Yet there has never been a time when there was a shortage of people wishing to be MPs. Further, most pay little heed to the money on offer.

The review does not explain why MPs should be compensated for the loss of a benefit that bears no relationship to their work and should never have been granted. Nor does it say why parliamentarians should be treated differently to members of the public.

Again they are being treated no differently to any other employee on a total remuneration package. The Remuneration Authority will not be instructed to increase MPs salaries if the perks disappear – it will be obliged under the law to do so because they explicitly deduct them from the package to calculate salaries at the moment. And they can not deduct something if it no longer exists.

Think of an analogy. Say you have a contract with your employer that they will pay you a total package of $120,000 a year. Now they pay $10,000 into a superannuation fund on your behalf, so your actual salary if $110,000. The company decides that it no longer is appropriate to be offering a superannuation scheme so they scrap it. Well then they will automatically adjust your salary up to $120,000 to keep the total package the same.

I know this is not a popular position to take, but it is a principled position that MPs should not be treated differently to anyone else on a total remuneration package.

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MPs Children Travel

Tuesday, April 6th, 2010 at 3:00 pm

The Herald reports:

Greens co-leader Metiria Turei is backing a plan to expand the travel perks for MPs’ children which potentially opens the way for MPs to claim for taking their children on holiday.

Parliament’s Speaker, Lockwood Smith, revealed last week that he was considering changing the rules to allow the children to travel anywhere in New Zealand to join their MP parent rather than just between their home and Wellington.

School-aged children now get four return trips to Wellington a year to allow them to see their MP parent while he or she is working in Parliament.

However, Dr Smith said most children could travel only during the school holidays – when the House was in recess and few MPs were in Wellington.

He believed more flexibility was warranted but said he did not intend to make it more expensive or expand it beyond the equivalent of four trips a year. A financial cap was one possibility.

The current policy seems reasonable to most people. The job requires MPs to spend half their year in Wellington, so their school age kids can travel down once per term, or more likely once per school holidays.

It is tempting to then go along with the argument that as few MPs are in Wellington during school holidays, the travel policy should be more flexible and wllow them to travel to other areas to be with their MP parent.

However I think this does change the nature of the policy, from a clearly work related policy, to something that could end up subsidising private holidays – and that is something which I don’t think is appropriate.

Any rule change could stipulate that the perk was to be used only when the MP was on work trips rather than private holidays.

She said MPs often spent the holiday recesses working elsewhere around the country rather than in their hometowns.

Ms Turei said she had no issue with limiting the number of trips, but it made sense for children to travel to wherever their parents were, rather than just Wellington.

“That’s the point, really. Especially for those who have younger children, it can get difficult to see them.”

If the Speaker does change the eligibility, then Metiria’s suggestion of only allowing it to accompany an MP on a work trip has merit, as that would be more palatable than what will be seen as a subsidy for private holidays.

Something that the Speaker may wish to reflect upon, is how the Remuneration Authority currently treats the policy on dependants’ domestic air travel.

You see the Remuneration Authority calculates a total remuneration level for an MP, and then deducts off that total package, the private value of some of the perks.

For example 5% of the average cost of MPs’ air travel is deemed of private benefit, as is 45% of the average costs of spouses’ air travel and 100% of MPs’ international air travel. So these are all deducted from the total remuneration package to calculate an MPs salary.

What I find interesting is what the Remuneration Authority said in their last detailed determination in 2003 on dependents’ air travel:

Dependants’ domestic air travel

4.5 The average cost of this per member is $2,208. The IRD has assessed that all of this constitutes remuneration. The Authority has made no allowance for this in the calculation of the package value as it believes that members should be able to have their children visit them in Wellington at the taxpayers’ expense.

So unlike even an MPs own air travel (which is deemed 5% private) the Remuneration Authority had determined that allowing children to travel to Wellington (four times a year for school age) is a legitimate 100% work related necessity.

But if this is changed to include travel to outside of Wellington, then I would suggest the Remuneration Authority would find that there is now a private benefit to this, and deduct a portion of the cost off an MPs salary calculation (as they do for 45% of spouses travel).

So if the Speaker does make the change, then it may result in MPs having it effectively deducted off their salary – regardless of whether they use it or not.

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MPs pay

Tuesday, September 15th, 2009 at 10:00 am

The Dom Post reports:

More than six months after complaining about the Remuneration Authority not paying enough regard to the recession when setting pay for MPs, judges, the governor-general, mayors, councillors and others, the Government has written a law to make it comply.

A bill from Labour Minister Kate Wilkinson will require it to take account of prevailing economic circumstances when setting pay, drawing on independent advice such as Treasury forecasts. The authority would retain discretion to award no rise or reduce increases that would otherwise have been awarded.

That is sensible as far as it goes, but assuming it goes to a select committee (as it should) I will put in a submission advocating a further change.

I strongly believe we should do what they do in the US, and make it illegal for MPs to get a pay rise during their term of Parliament. Instead the Remuneration Authority should revise the pay levels for MPs every three years, with them to take effect after each election.

It would massively reduce cynicism against annual increases for MPs, for which the MPs always get blamed. It would mean you stand for, and get elected to Parliament, knowing exactly what the salary will be for the next three years.

In previous decades with high inflation, you couldn’t do this so easily. But with relatively low inflation, a salary adjustment every three years is fine. It means perhaps a 10% adjustment every three years instead of 3% annually. Some might say what is the difference. They key thing is you have to get re-elected by the people to get the new salary level. It removes the perception (however incorrect) of voting oneself pay rises on the job.

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MPs Salaries, Expenses and Funding

Monday, June 22nd, 2009 at 3:22 pm

I’m going to do a series of a dozen or so posts on MPs salaries, expenses and funding. The purpose is to increase awareness and education of what MPs are paid, what they cost, what budgets they have available and associated issues. I have found that most of the reporting on this issue is rather superficial (as dictated by the medium), so am hoping this will help provide a more balanced comprehensive view.

MPs Salaries

The headline salary for an ordinary MP was set in 2003 to be $110,000. Those with additional responsibilities get paid more – with the Prime Minister’s salary then being $305,000.

What almost no-one knows is that the salary is calculated as part of a total remuneration package, and the “perks” such as superannuation subsidies and some air travel are deducted from the remuneration level, to get to a base salary. So when you see an article on how MPs get a 20% superannuation subsidy (if they put in 8%), you should be aware that if the subsidy did not exist, MPs would simply get paid 20% more. The superannuation level does not affect the total cost to the taxpayer (unless they are on the former gold plated scheme which closed off in the early 1990s).

So what is the total remuneration package for an MP? The 2003 determination that details all this doesn’t appear to be online, but the Remuneration Authority kindly sent me a copy – which is uploaded here – parl-s-a-det-2003

In 2003 the Remuneration Authority said it was $142,700. The components were:

1. Salary $110,000
2. Superannuation $22,000
3. MPs Domestic Travel $1,500
4. Spouses Domestic Travel $3,400
5. MPs/Spouses International Travel $5,800

So again this is something very few people realise. The average value of the personal benefit of free travel has been calculated and is deducted from an MPs remuneration to calculate their base salary.

Now you may wonder how the Remuneration Authority calculates the private benefit of the travel entitlements. Well the IRD did it for them. The IRD estimated:

• Domestic MPs Air Travel – $30,296 per member and 5% is of personal benefit
• Domestic Spouses Air Travel – $7,516 and 45% is of personal benefit
• MPs and Spouses International Air Travel – $5,780 per member and 100% is of personal benefit

Now this system is not perfect. You could argue why should some MPs get paid less, because other MPs have (for example) spouses. But I don’t think married MPs should have to pay for them to see their spouses occasionally during the week. So averaging out the personal benefit and deducting from their remuneration is a sensible approach.

Now these are the numbers used in 2003. What are they in 2008? Well sadly the Remuneration Authority only reports annually the change in base salary, not the change in total remuneration package. This is a pity, as if they were to republish the calculations every year it would educate more people about how the “perks” are deducted from MPs remuneration.

But we do know the salary for a backbench MP is now $131,000 so we can estimate their total remuneration package in 2008. It would be:

1. Salary $131,000 (a 19% increase over five years)
2. Superannuation $26,200 (20% of salary)
3. MPs Domestic Travel $1,800 (assume 19% increase)
4. Spouses Domestic Travel $4,000
5. MPs/Spouses International Travel $6,900

This is an estimated total remuneration package in 2008 of $167,900 for a backbench MP. So base salaries and total rem packages (estimated) for each job in 2008 bis:

1. Backbench MP $131,000 salary; $167,900 total rem
2. Deputy Committee Chair $135,300; $173,060
3. Committee Chairs $144,500; $184,100
4. Nat/Lab Junior Whips $144,500; $184,100
5. Maori/Act Whip $144,500; $184,100
6. Assistant Speakers $144,500; $184,100
7. Progressive Leader $144,500; $184,100
8. Green Whip $148,100; $188,420
9. Green Leader $157,100; $199,220
10. Deputy Speaker $169,900; $214,580
11. Labour Senior Whip $175,420; $221,204
12. Labour Deputy Leader $176,170; $222,104
13. National Senior Whip $180,400; $227,180
14. Minister outside Cabinet $204,300; $255,860
15. Leader of the Opposition $243,700; $303,140
16. Speaker $243,700; $303,140
17. Cabinet Minister $243,700; $303,140
18. Deputy PM $276,700; $342,740
19. PM $393,000; $482,300

The Remuneration Authority notes that the remuneration package for a backbench MP is now roughly in line with comparative jobs. They say that at the upper levels, they lag behind – for example the PM’s salary being relatively low for the immense responsibilities that go with it. However yet to meet a PM who is in it for their salary.

My next post will be on MPs expense allowances, and then will go through centrally funded expenses (such as travel), and bulk funded expenses (such as constituency offices etc). I expect close to a dozen posts all up – the intent is to inform, and to be balanced.

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MPs pay freeze

Tuesday, February 10th, 2009 at 6:14 am

The Herald reports:

The National Party isn’t going to support a Green Party proposal to freeze MPs’ pay for three years, as it doesn’t believe the recession will last that long.

The Greens plan to put their proposal to Parliament, possibly tomorrow, and they hope MPs will vote on it.

Prime Minister John Key said today if it was re-drafted for a one-year freeze, National would support it.

“The Green’s proposal presupposes there will be a recession for three years,” Mr Key said. …

“I don’t accept that proposition. If the Greens want to alter it to one year then National will vote for it, and we might vote for it in the second and third years.” …

Green Party MP Keith Locke said he was pleased Mr Key had responded to the proposal in a positive way and the Greens would want to get it through Parliament on a cross-party basis.

I have long advocated that MPs should get pay rises only once every three years, rather than annually. Not because of the recession, but to get rid of the (inaccurate) perception of MPs giving themselves pay rises.

I would change the law so that the Remuneration Commission sets MPs salaries 90 days before a scheduled election, with the new rates to apply for the next term of Parliament.

This isn’t to lower MPs wages compared to other jobs – just to change the timing. So (for example) instead of annual increases of say 3%, there might be a 10% increase for the next term of Parliament.

This is a slightly different issue to “self sacrifice” of increases during the recession. That comes down to showing “moral leadership” and is a sensible action, as there will be less resistance of making savings elsewhere if they are also occuring at the top.

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PMs pays

Tuesday, December 30th, 2008 at 8:40 am

The Herald runs an AAP story on what different PMs are paid.

The Russian salary is so low, it is inevitable that they enrich themselves through the state unofficially.

The US salary is also set very low, for the job. In fact many US presidents will leave office with greater debts than when they entered, due to the cost of private legal advice. But ex-presidents traditionally can then make millions through lectures and books.

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Full list of MPs Salaries

Thursday, November 20th, 2008 at 10:57 pm

Parliament now has the Remuneration Authority determination on line. These salaries are backdated to 1 July 2008 so Helen gets a golden handshake :-)

Salary levels are:

  1. $393,000 – Prime Minister (1)
  2. $276,700 – Deputy Prime Minister (1)
  3. $243,700 – Cabinet Ministers, Speaker, Opposition Leader (20)
  4. $204,300 – Non Cabinet Ministers (8)
  5. $180,400 – Senior Government Whip (1)
  6. $176,900 – Minister without portfolios (0)
  7. $176,170 – Labour Deputy Leader (1)
  8. $176,100 – Labour Senior Whip (1)
  9. $169,900 – Deputy Speaker (1)
  10. $157,000 – Parliamentary Under Secretaries (0)
  11. $155,900 – Green Party Leader – Eight MPs (1)
  12. $146,900 – Green Party Whip (1)
  13. $144,500 – Assistant Speakers, Progressive Party Leader, Maori Party Whip, ACT Whip, National and Labour Junior Whips (7)
  14. $144,500 – Select Committee Chairs (14)
  15. $135,300 – Select Committee Deputy Chairs (14)
  16. $131,000 – All other MPs (51)

For those interested, the total annual salary bill will be $19,793,170 and the average salary is 162,239. The median salary however is $135,300.

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New pay scales for MPs

Thursday, November 20th, 2008 at 6:09 pm

The Remuneration Authority today announced the new pay scales for MPs. These of course are as popular as pork chops as a synagogue.

I’ve said for years on end that Parliament should amend the Remuneration Authority Act so that MPs only get pay adjusted once every three years – just before an election. In other words the pay is set for each term of Parliament, and you get elected to a role knowing what it will be. With relatively low inflation, there is no need for annual increases. Instead of getting flak every year for a 5% rise, just have a triennial 15% (or so) increase that will only apply to the next Parliament.

Anyway what are the changes:

  • PM from $375,000 to $393,000 (4.8%)
  • Deputy PM from 264,500 to $276,700 (4.6%)
  • Cabinet Ministers (plus Opp Leader) from $233,000 to $243,700 (4.6%)
  • Other Ministers from $195,700 to $204,300 (4.4%)
  • Backbench MPs from $126,000 to $131,000 (4.0%)

The full determination is not online, which is really annoying.

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MP salaries

Monday, March 17th, 2008 at 12:34 pm

Steve Pierson at The Standard proposes that MPs salary increases be linked to the median wage:

Every year the Remuneration Board, an independent body, reviews the pay of MPs. Whatever pay increase it recommends is always approved by Parliament unanimously and without debate, to keep the process from being politicised. Every year, our ever mature media gleefully portrays this process as politicians giving themselves a huge pay rise.

What if, instead, MPs pay increases were automatic and the same amount as the median income increase? The pay and annual increase methodology would be contained in legislation, so would not require annual approval. Any suggestion of impropriety would be eliminated and our journalists could get on with investigating real stories.

First of all a couple of minor corrections. It is the Remuneration Authority, not Board, and more importantly they do not recommend pay increases – they set salaries.  Not only does Parliament not get to vote on them, they don’t even need an Order-in-Council.

I agree it would be good to avoid the annual outrage over MPs getting a payrise, which people think they have voted themselves.  But linking to the median wage would over time have MPs salaries drift below the level they should be to attract suitable professionals.  It would also provide an incentive for MPs to let inflation run rampant as wage increases of 15% and inflation of 15% hurts people on the median wage, but actually benefits people on higher incomes.

I do recall a Yes Prime Minister episode where Sir Humphrey gets a massive pay rise through Cabinet for the public service, by having MPs pay rises linked to public servants!

What I have long advocated is that MPs salaries and allowances should only be reviewed and set every three years, instead of annually. Inflation is low enough that this can be done.

What this would mean if no MP gets a pay increase during a term of Parliament. They keep the same salary for their term of office.  So in 2008 the RA would set MP salaries for 2009 – 2011. And in 2011 for 2012 – 2014. They would only take effect for the new Parliament.  So candidates can choose to stand knowing exactly what the salary will be, and voters will know the salary for the job they are electing people to.

Pablo, in the comments of The Standard, also endorses this and notes this is constitutional law in the US.

It would be a popular policy with the public, to have no pay increases for MPs during a parliamentary term, and it would save the MPs the annual bashing they get for something they don’t decide.

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